Time Urges 65 Million Americans Who Voted For Hillary Not To Pay Taxes

Tyler Durden's picture

Under the twisted premise of losing the popular vote and "no taxation without representation", TIME's Mark Weston proclaims that the approximately 65 million Democrats who voted for Hillary Clinton should pledge "we won’t pay taxes to the federal government... until democracy is restored."

Because, It's just not fair?

Twice in the past 16 years, a Republican candidate who finished second in the popular vote has won the presidency. This year, Donald Trump won the electoral vote with about 46% of the popular vote, while Hillary Clinton received about 48%. If the parties stay this evenly divided, another electoral mishap is more likely than not in the next 20 years.


Most Republicans are quite content with this system. Appeals to fairness have not persuaded them of the need to amend the Constitution to establish direct presidential elections, preferably with a runoff if no one wins 50% of the vote. Nor does the real chance that a Democrat could win the presidency with fewer votes than a Republican alarm them. Even the taunt, “Are you afraid of a direct election? Can’t you win a straight-up vote?” doesn’t faze them. Democrats must, therefore, pester Republicans where it hurts: the pocketbook.


Is signing a pledge to not pay taxes legal? Yes, if no overt act of conspiracy is involved, and the pledge itself is hypothetical. No one knows when or if it would be carried out.


A national movement not to pay federal taxes in the future would put Republicans on notice: they do not have the right to impose a hard-right, second-place presidency on a moderate nation every dozen or so years. If the Republicans won’t help amend the Constitution so that America can resume being a democracy, then Democrats, lacking the representation that supporters of a future popular vote-winner ought to have in the executive branch, should not submit to paying taxes to the federal government.


How would the pledge work?  


First, an online group such as MoveOn.org, Change.org or both, should circulate a petition. The pledge is not just a powerful protest; it is also effortless, requiring no legal or financial sacrifice at all for years, possibly decades.


Second, the pledge should only apply to federal taxes. We would still pay state, local, sales and property taxes. This is a protest against our 229-year-old system of electoral votes, not against taxation in general.


Third, if a Republican wins the election without winning the popular vote again, we should still pay what we owe in federal taxes—just not to the IRS. Instead, people would compute their federal taxes, file a Form 1040 and write a check to a national escrow account, preferably in a well-established Canadian or British bank that is beyond the reach of the U.S. Justice Department, because whoever opens this account probably will be in violation of U.S. law. In the check’s memo line, people should write, “Funds to be transferred to the IRS as soon as America resumes being a democracy.”


If the U.S. government wanted control over the trillions of dollars in this escrow account, it would have to replace our antiquated electoral system with a fairer way of electing presidents. Then, when 38 state legislatures have ratified an acceptable Constitutional amendment, the escrow officer could cheerfully transfer the account’s trillions of dollars to the IRS.


The beauty of a no-taxation pledge is that it almost certainly won’t have to be carried out. The mere threat could be enough to propel a Constitutional amendment. If millions sign now, Republicans will know that a third modern Republican runner-up presidency is impossible; Democrats will not be cooperative again.


The cry, “No Taxation Without Representation,” inspired America to declare its independence in 1776. It can also lead to a rebirth of democracy in our own time.

Sadly, it appears, Mr. Weston missed out on what America's constitutional democracy means. As we noted previously, despite what the disaffected left now says about the "outdated" electoral college system, there was and still is solid reasoning behind it's existence.  The power of the individual states weighed very heavily on the founding fathers who created the electoral college system specifically to avoid the mass centralization of power in high population density areas.  And, while we certainly understand why the left would look to now discredit such a system, the fact is that there would be no United States of America without it as smaller states simply never would have opted in to the union. 

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Per the map above, absent the electoral college system, presidential elections would be almost entirely determined by a handful of cities including New York City, Boston, Chicago, Los Angeles and San Francisco.  And while the left would prefer to ignore the opinions of those in the "fly-over" states, we would suggest that their representation in the electoral college is a vital underpinning of American democracy...without such representation we're not sure why the fly-over states would choose to remain a part of a union where they had no say.

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Finally, we look forward to President-Elect Trump's tweet response to this seemingly treasonous sore-losership.

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evoila's picture

aside from self hating jews that support the democrats, they already don't

but, still i support this movement. how about I don't pay taxes until the welfare state is dismissed?

Ghost of Porky's picture

I support this with gusto.



AllTimeWhys's picture

Don't hillary voters already not pay taxes?

Ballin D's picture

Earners (income > 35k) were one of Trump's strongest constituencies. So you're more or less right, excluding a couple outliers.

hedgeless_horseman's picture

Time Urges 65 Million Americans Who Voted For Hillary Not To Pay Taxes?

How so when their readership is only 3,000,000 / month?

Isn't that less than ZeroHEdge?


Rank Name Circulation Founded Publisher

1 AARP The Magazine 23,144,225 1958 AARP

2 AARP Bulletin 22,700,945 1960 AARP

3 Costco Connection 8,740,785 1987 Costco Wholesale

4 Better Homes Gardens 7,645,364 1922 Meredith Corporation

5 Game Informer 6,353,075 1991 GameStop

6 AAA Living 4,898,168 Pace Communications

7 Good Housekeeping 4,315,026 1885 Hearst

8 Family Circle 4,056,156 1932 Meredith Corporation

9 People 3,418,555 1974 Time Inc.

10 Woman's Day 3,275,962 1931 Hearst

11 National Geographic 3,147,721 1888 National Geographic Society

12 Sports Illustrated 3,057,042 1954 Time Inc.

13 Time 3,032,581 1923 Time Inc.

14 Reader's Digest 3,024,031 1922 The Reader's Digest Association

15 Cosmopolitan 3,011,848 1886 Hearst

16 Southern Living 2,828,450 1966 Time Inc.

17 Taste of Home 2,550,765 1993 The Reader's Digest Association

18 Shape 2,521,203 1981 American Media

19 O, The Oprah Magazine 2,398,130 2000 Hearst

20 Glamour 2,297,755 1939 Condé Nast Publications



jcaz's picture

LOL-  you go first, Time-  let's see you lead by example.....

Stainless Steel Rat's picture
Stainless Steel Rat (not verified) jcaz Dec 6, 2016 1:00 PM

"The beauty of a no-taxation pledge is that it almost certainly won’t have to be carried out."

No.  That would NOT be the beauty of it.

J S Bach's picture

This is a great idea.  I've advocated a mass boycott of tax-paying myself.  Congratulations, libs... you're finally on to something useful!  The first Pauls to go without Peters' largess shall be your own constituents, of course.  That will be ironically sweet.

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Draybin Deffercon III (not verified) J S Bach Dec 6, 2016 1:15 PM

As a licensed financial planner who can give financial advice, I recommend everyone hide their m0nies in Bitcoin. Crypto is teh tax-haven of the 21st Century.


froze25's picture

It would be nice if Time would show us the Law that requires any individual living human to pay income taxes. No one else seems to be able to.

Took Red Pill's picture

You are correct! There is no law. I like this line:

 “Funds to be transferred to the IRS as soon as America resumes being a democracy.”

We'll be waiting a long time for that! We haven't been a democracy for quite some time and I doubt that will change. We used to be a Republic now an oligarchy.

Billy the Poet's picture

 Even the taunt, “Are you afraid of a direct election? Can’t you win a straight-up vote?” doesn’t faze them.

Even the taunt, "Are you afraid of the Constitution? Can't you play by the rules?" doesn't faze progessives and globalists.

manofthenorth's picture

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the CONSENT of the governed,"


From Black's Law Dictionary; (thanks Chup 22)

What is CONSENT?

A concurrence of wills. Express consent is that directly given, either lira voce or in writing. Implied consent is that manifested by signs, actions, or facts, or by inaction or silence, which raise a presumption that the consent has been given.

RAT005's picture

And simillary don't take any fed handouts.  We live in a Republic dumb asses so we don't all have to live at the whim of a slim majority when it represents such a small geographic portion of the country.

MagicHandPuppet's picture

I've always wanted a massive tax revolt.  Imagine my shock that the lib-tards are trying to lead the way!

LowerSlowerDelaware_LSD's picture
LowerSlowerDelaware_LSD (not verified) MagicHandPuppet Dec 6, 2016 2:35 PM

"Time Urges 65 Million Americans Who Voted For Hillary Not To Pay Taxes"

AWESOME!!! It's about time that leftist nut-jobs work to shrink Central Planning. What a great election result!

And, bummer... No comments section below the editorial. I really wanted to thank the guy for helping cut government.

Citxmech's picture

Fuck - does this mean I can get reimbursed for all of my taxes during W's presidency?  

How about Obama's too while we're at it?

The Saint's picture
The Saint (not verified) Citxmech Dec 6, 2016 5:04 PM

WOW!  That would be great!!  Imagine, every Democrat voter becoming a tax cheating felon with NO VOTING RIGHTS!!!

Only in my wildest dreams could something so marvelous happen.


Save_America1st's picture

I'm all for it.  How's about those fucks sign a petition along with everyone how didn't vote for Hitlery to abolish the income tax system?  Fire all the fed-scumbags who live off the rest of us and throw the mafia gang called the Federal Reserve and their thug police force called the IRS out of the District of Criminals forever!?

Larken Rose made this several years ago and everyone should see it.  Makes perfect fucking sense, ay?

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Manthong's picture

..that is the best goddam idea I have heard in my 50 years of sending money to the Feds.

But don’t stop there… stop paying the confiscatory property taxes are used to turn the kids into mindless communists …. Stop paying all bill and loans, let the bad system freeze up and then see what happens afterwards.


fleur de lis's picture

Finally something smart from the Marxist pests.

Yep -- proof positive that the libs/progs/Marxists/muliticulti zombies/MSM and most interestingly -- their advisors infesting all of academia with their generally impressive but factually hollow PhD's -- have absolutely no concept of history.

A mass tax boycott is the only good idea they have ever come up with, although it's a backfire.

The IRS and the Fed parasites were hatched together in 1913, and its been one war after another ever since.

The IRS rips us off and the Fed is the slush fund that only creates murder and mayhem through theft and fraud.

The tax parasites

!) gave us the Great Depression, and their love slave FDR who dutifully confiscated the personally held gold that rightfully belonged to Americans.

2) instigated and managed both world wars then managed the traumatized populations afterwards to their own gain,

3) all the revolutions, civil wars, "popular"/read CIA  movements that toppled governments worldwide and put entire populations to death in the 20th century,

4) still funds and supports the opium business with our tx money in places like Afghanistan which is the only reason we're there, fund NATO/Wet Work Army to continually obliterate entire nations at will, it goes on and on.

5) were party to the mass murders of 3,000 people in NYC during thier criminally depraved 911 hoax thanks to our abused tax money

6) got us into Ukraine thanks to their most trusted skank Icky Vicky Neudelman who had no problems getting the IRS and Fed traitors to sigm off on the $5mm (or was that $5bb I can't remember) of abused tax money to turm yet another nation upside down and create enemies we never had as per the usual IRS/Fed/DC procedure

7) sign off on all the abused tax money for all the false flag hoaxes at home to keep us all terrifed when in fact it should be them terrified of us

8) allow their psycopath friends like George Soros/Gyorgy Schwarz et al. to creat social chaos with our abused tax money  and get us to clean up the mess with more of our abused tax money   

So to starve the IRS is to starve the Fed.

Maybe some peace an quiet for a while.

They are symbiotic parasites, one needs the other to survive, but they both suck the life out of us.

To starve the Fed is to starve the warmongers and neocons who have been abusing our tax money since 1913 to infest and destroy every form of settled governance at home and abroad in exchange for chaos and carnage.

Let the boycott begin!!


Ranger611's picture

Could be defined as an act of Terriorism under the new standards

Save_America1st's picture

I was one of about a million TEA (Taxed Enough Already) Party tax rallyers who marched on D.C. back in 2010.  We came from all across the country to get these fucks to stop the spending.  That was probably 10 Trillion in debt ago.

But we were called racists and domestic terrorists for demanding a stop to spending our country and future generations down the toilet.

The Free Shit Army (FSA) will never support an end to the criminal tax system...it would end their EBT, SNAP, fake disability, and 8 years of unemployment "benefits" that the rest of us pay for. 

2_legs_bahhhhhd's picture


These fucking libtard tax eaters, don't realize that if people stop paying taxes, that their salary dries up too.....wait, they will still expect to get payed....never mind, my bad

As much as I hate paying taxes, no way are these fuckers going to slop my trough another second, I'm out of money....fuck off

de3de8's picture

Should this idea grow legs, I might even say I voted for Hillarity (puke)

RichardParker's picture

Not to mention, it would become cost prohibitive to wage large scale wars.

Can't have that, now can we?

NoDecaf's picture

NPR becomes white noise... Yeah sign me up for that.

Mr. Bones's picture

They're legitimizing tax protest.  I warned them when Obama was centralizing executive power that they would regret it, now Trump is elected.  Their response in this case will only play in to the hands of their opposition when power eventually changes hands again.  They are completely incapable of identifying the follow on repercussions of their actions and it is delicious.

RichardParker's picture

"Blinded by the belief that Obama was too benevolent and benign to abuse his office, and drowning in partisan loyalties at the expense of political principles, Democrats consecrated this framework with their acquiescence and, often, their explicit approval. This is the unrestrained set of powers Trump will inherit. The president-elect frightens them, so they are now alarmed. But if they want to know whom to blame, they should look in the mirror."

-Glenn Greenwald


Mr. Bones's picture

Precisely.  What I think might scare them even more is their own language.  They openly spoke of turning Texas and shutting the Republicans out.  Hillary was supposed to usher in a new era.  They were so close.  They didn't get busted in any meaningful way for running guns to cartels, the banks handling the cartel money barely got a slap on the wrist.  The IRS interfered with conservative or liberty leaning groups with impunity.  The court system put people out of business for wrongthink in the cake case and others.  The PPACA precedent allowed them to call bills of attainder taxes.  They had tortured and corrupted the edifice to their own ends exactly as Washington warned in his farewell address.

They thought they had "full spectrum dominance," and now the entire toolbox is being passed to an individual that they've been conditioned to believe is literally Hitler.  Deep in some forgotten place in their reptile brain they know they deserve the punishments their imagination is cooking up, and that scares them.  Alinsky said the threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.  That's their life now.

divingengineer's picture

How they gonna do that with payroll deductions set up the way they are?

Not gonna happen, if you could quit your job and work under the table (less and less opportunities for that every day) you could do it, but then again you probably weren't contributing a net positive taxation in the first place. We may see revenue flows increase if they revolt in mass and we cancel out any and all federal dole to their households. 

JLee2027's picture

Why to read that phrase it almost means I can change my consent anytime and not pay taxes...legally. 

manofthenorth's picture

That is EXACTLY what it means.


Not much gray area there.


bobbbny's picture

In that case, I want all my taxes back.

divingengineer's picture

Yes, he's a brilliant legal mind on par with Scalia.

It will be a shame seeing him rot away in a federal penetentiary.

PirateOfBaltimore's picture

If only that were part of the Constitution, not the Declaration, and held the power of law.

Bobrsta's picture

We the People withdraw our Consent

CuttingEdge's picture

Fake News Outlet of The Day Award goes to TIME.

"as soon as America resumes being a democracy.”


The USA has never been a democracy you dumb fucking cunts.  

You really are trying way too hard to make yourselves irrelevant, and ultimately extinct.

FreedomGuy's picture

These people are like children who do not get their way.

Show me their complaints about the electoral college prior to the election and during Obama's two terms. Then I will begin to take them seriously.

Notveryamused's picture

Pray the elites are this dumb, pray we are that lucky.

Imagine they create the mass movement that destroys the very thing that gives them power, under the illusionthey'd ever be able to reverse creating a mass movement, sanctioned by the MSM that encouraged not paying taxes.

jeff montanye's picture

my favorite part of the post above is the characterization of the u.s. as a moderate nation.  i notice time didn't squawk too hard when bush slipped past al and joe with fewer votes. but back then big plans were afoot.

if overthrowing four or five governments, invading five or six countries and starting six or seven wars, all ongoing and all we are losing, in the last fifteen years is moderate, i'm so very glad we have not seen extreme.

it's like the mossad writes this shit and they publish it.

beemasters's picture

"You are correct! There is no law."

So essentially, are we aiding and abetting criminality by paying taxes?

Koba the Dread's picture

In point of fact, America has never been a democracy. Good deal, that! Look at the average person and how ingnorant he/she/it is of how the world works. THAT AVERAGE PERSON IS SMARTER THAN 50% OF ALL THE OTHER PERSONS OUT THERE! That fact alone argues for a republic, not democracy.

fleur de lis's picture

Wait until it dawns on them what they have done.

That should be funny watching the crabwalkers and listening to their juvenile explainations.