Guns Don't Kill People, Heroin Does

Tyler Durden's picture

The epidemic of heroin and opioid related deaths in the US continues to grow, surpassing gun homicides in 2015 for the first time ever.

As RT reports, a new Centers for Disease Control and Prevention report shows. Nearly 5,000 more people died from opioids in 2015 than in 2014.

Both heroin and opioid use have exploded in the US, after decades of doctors over-prescribing painkillers in the 1990s and 2000s. A report from the CDC released Thursday found that the drug problem has become so deadly that heroin deaths outnumbered gun fatalities last year for the first time in US history.

Until 2007, gun deaths outnumbered heroin deaths five to one, according to the Washington Post. But 2015 saw 12,989 people die from heroin and 12,979 die from gun homicides.

The 21st Century Cures Act passed on Wednesday will allocate $1 billion to fight the opioid epidemic through addiction treatment and prevention. Funding did not arrive a day too soon, as the rate of deaths from both heroin and other opioids, including synthetics such as fentanyl, have nearly quadrupled since 1999, according to the CDC.

While there are myriad reasons for the increase in deaths, some blame can be assigned to the recent introduction of fentanyl and other strong synthetic opioids to the marketplace. Deaths from these synthetic opioids grew 75 percent from 2014 to 2015.

In Ocean County, New Jersey, the rates of fentanyl deaths have exploded. In 2013, four people were killed by the drug. By 2014, that number rose to 19, but 51 people died from the drug in 2015, according to New Jersey’s Office of the State Medical Examiner, the Daily Record reported.

While some may have hoped that the Cures Act will give those struggling with addiction the help they need, Ocean County Prosecutor Joseph Coronato is concerned that the problem will get worse before it gets better.

Coronato told the Daily Record, "as bad as it was in 2015, it's going to be horrendous in 2016," and forecasting that, "the numbers are just going to continue to spiral out of control."

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TeamDepends's picture

That's why leftists, like Michael Moore, are freaking out so bad right now. Their hopium dealer is being evicted from the White House.

Draybin Deffercon III's picture
Draybin Deffercon III (not verified) TeamDepends Dec 9, 2016 2:55 PM

Heroin, Cocaine, Marijuana, Xanax, Fentanyl, Carfentanil, Amphetamine, Dextro-methorphan Hydrobromide...

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greenskeeper carl's picture

Sure this sounds bad, but it could be worse. People could be growing and smoking marijuana, which apparently, according to the government and pharmaceutical companies, is so dangerous it needs to be a schedule I narcotic. Keep taking the synthetic heroin. Much safer....

We should all thank the drug companies, govt, for profit prisons, and alcohol distributors for this. Plenty to go around.

Government needs you to pay taxes's picture

Libtards LOVE dope and HATE guns.  This explains the politization of any gun-related incident whilst nary a presstitute speaks openly of the dope bodycount.

LowerSlowerDelaware_LSD's picture
LowerSlowerDelaware_LSD (not verified) Government needs you to pay taxes Dec 9, 2016 4:14 PM

"... deaths have exploded."

Unemployment now down to 4.0%! This is what Obama wants: Let the unemployed remove themselves from the system.

TheFulishBastid's picture

Just one toke of a reefer will give you the gAIDS! Nancy Reagan taught me that.

Killtruck's picture

What we need is some common sense Opioid Control legislation!


SubjectivObject's picture

Too late.  The CIA already controls it quite well, thank you.

konputa's picture

And we can see why Obama never withdrew forces from Afghanistan.

greenskeeper carl's picture

Exactly. The spice must flow. Can't be allowing the taliban to shut down the opium trade. That's why it's protected by the US Army.

Stuck on Zero's picture

That stuff should be shipped to China to get some of our money back.

Allen_H's picture

China will never forgive or forget the Opium war.

konputa's picture

Anyone looking at this should look into the role HSBC played in the Opium Wars. It might stand to reason that they remain a component of the trade.

UncleChopChop's picture

this. anytime i hear people talking up the 'brave soldiers fighting in afghanistan' i cringe and want to explain to them how they are just mostly ignorant drug-cartel enforcers. 

"Military men are dumbstupid animals to be used as pawns for foreign policy" - Henry Kissinger.

You still think that's air you're breathing neo? you still think that's "freedom" you're defending?

JoeSoMD's picture

No longer necessary.  Now that naloxone is available "for free" EVERYBODY can shoot up - as long as they have a friend nearby that can administer the naloxone.  Over 20 dope heads have been "saved" in my little county alone.

adanata's picture


First they make billions addicting people to the drugs then they make billions more from addiction treatment.

Gotta love the medical "industry"...   /s

not dead yet's picture

Blaming doctors and big pharma is just a bullshit smokescreen for those wanting to legalize drugs. As long as the public perceived that the problem was illegal drugs taken by idiots they could have cared less. So to get the public behind them and their crusade for legalization they blamed it on the docs who supposedly over prescribed opiods for those who were in pain and who got addicited and eventually turned to illegal drugs because "they were hurting". As has always been the case the vast majority of illegal drugs and abuse of legal drugs is for recreational use, until addiciton sets in. The shrinks are big on legalization, as they admit legalization will skyrocket drug use, because their "industry" and the potential for making huge money, as the shrinks, clinics, and halfway houses will be in growth mode. The best part of it is it will be mostly your tax dollars paying for it. As more use drugs the crime rate will go up as they need to feed their addiction and it will be the taxpayers paying for that too. Saying legalization in other countries lowered usage and crime rates is bullshit.

It may seem I'm against legalization, the opposite is true. One cannot win a war, especailly the disaster the war on drugs has wrought, if the people are against you. Every time they shoot up, snort, or take a puff the American people, in increasing numbers of drug users, are voting for legalization. If they want to mess up themselves and their lives it's their problem but don't make it mine. If they lose their job over drug use no unemployment for them. If they can't afford treatment go cold turkey or die. No more medical insurance payments by private employers or the government for treatment. They overdose and get pumped full of naxolene garnish their wages, or be first paid from their estate if they die, if they can't or won't pay. No declaring bankruptcy to wipe out the costs of care for the overdose including hospital care. These idiots thought it was great fun to get high, and had money to do it, so they should suffer and pay for it when they crash.

We get the food police clowns ragging about fat people and getting sugar taxes imposed, rather than admit it's not food but Americans have become incredibly lazy, claiming they are tired of their health insurance going up because of fat people. Recently the CDC claimed alcohol abuse and it's cost to society is at least $250 billion per year. Beer is also chock full of calories also causing obesity. Thus the age old expression "beer belly." Considering the family problems alcohol causes, whether abused or not, that figure is on the low side. One can imagine how much more drug abuse costs. We get bombarded almost daily about kids going hungry, and encouraged to give till it hurts, yet no one bothers to find out why the kids are hungry, if they really are. At our local schools they give free breakfast to any kid regardless of need yet "proves" kids are hungry. Yet with all the safety nets for kids none should be going hungry unless they are from a crappy home and their parents are swapping their assistance for pennies on the dollar and blowing the cash on booze and drugs while the kids are abused or neglected. Instead of finding out why some kids are truely hungry and getting them out of those homes we ignore the situation and plead for money. Yet if I smack my kid on the ass, or claims I did when I didn't, for doing something really bad I'm off to the slammer with a major fine and lots of expensive shrink sessions and the kid is removed from the home.

City_Of_Champyinz's picture

We should just make Heroin illegal, that will fix things for sure.

insanelysane's picture

The cure is to not shoot heroin.

Just like the cure for obesity is diet and excercise; the cure for depression is to be happy; and the cure for ADD is to pay attention.  Simple.

Scrubbing Bubblez's picture
Scrubbing Bubblez (not verified) insanelysane Dec 9, 2016 4:36 PM

Yeah! Because snorting or smoking it makes it OK!

stacking12321's picture

by that logic, the cure for auto fatalities is for everyone not to drive cars.

wisebastard's picture

they are slowly killing people with prescription and amercans are too stupid realize the affordable care act is a tax...........its much worse than what people think.....its much worse then people think..........

mkkby's picture

You HARDLY EVER see a pill/syringe get up all by itself and kill someone.  Most of the time someone uses their own muscles and brain to take it.  There is no *they* harming people.

Guns/drugs do not kill.  This is just more looney lefty garbage that makes a mockery of personal responsibility in the name of gov control.  Ignore it or ridicule it, but never believe it.

oddjob's picture

 Carfentanil is here now, 100 times more powerful than fentanyl.

Normalcy Bias's picture

They should've named it Fukitol  (Credit, Robin Williams).

Killtruck's picture

 "100 times more powerful than fentanyl"

How is that even possible? My experience with fentanyl was mind-blowing, I never understood heroin addiction until that moment. But can it be so much more powerful than Fenny and the Jets? Never thought I'd see the day when straight heroin was the tame drug.

I look at it like the some point, measuring it doesn't really matter. Anything below 0*F, is just increasing levels of pain the lower you go.  

FrankDrakman's picture

All that means is a tinier dose is required to get the same effect. So, fentanyl (fen) has an effective dose of 25-100 micrograms - that's 25 one millionths of a gram - but carfentil (car) has an effective dose of 1/100th that, or 250 nanograms - that's 250 BILLIONTHS of a gram. (Just for comparison: a human hair 4.5" long weigh about 620 micrograms, or about 2,500 times as much as dose of car.)

Now, your average neighbourhood drug dealer may have access to super sensitive scales that can accurately measure such minute doses, and he may care enough about his clients that he takes pains to ensure each dose is non-lethal, but in my neighbourhood, they don't care about such shit. They toss some car, some fen, whatever, in a pot, mix it up, and sell it to whatever suckers show up. Another dead junkie just seems to bring more out of the woodwork, all of whom think they'll be the one to find the dragon on that hot shot. 

ducksinarow's picture

Used to a measure of how good a dose of heroin was how bad it made you vomit when you took the dose and the ones standing in line would notice the person vomiting and would rush over to spend their money at the pusher that had the stuff that was so strong it made you vomit one second after you took the hit. Carfentanyl is judged the same way. The closer you come to death without dying the better the mix is considered to be. All across the country scenes of finding people unconscious or dead is happening. The meth heads have gotten tired of being high and have learned that after the first high nothing gets any higher. They are switching to oblivion and the stats that make the news are no where near how many deaths are occuring. Some stats are hidden in unclaimed body stats for big cities and in smaller cities where there is no suspicion of foul play diagnoses run from heart attack to mysterious unexplained loss of consciousness and death. It spares the tax payer autopsy costs and spares the grieving family who never realized what was going on the additional grief of knowing what killed their family member. As has always been known, laws are created for the lawful and followed by the lawful for a sense of order and purpose. Illegal and dangerous drugs are used by people who are past caring if it is lawful or not and lost their sense of purpose the first time they fell in love with a drug that made them crave it more than sex.

stacking12321's picture

"Illegal and dangerous drugs are used by people who are past caring if it is lawful or not and lost their sense of purpose the first time they fell in love with a drug that made them crave it more than sex."

i've never taken heroin, but i'm definitely past caring if *anything* is lawful or not - laws are made by my enemies and oppressors.
i live by a higher law than what the scumbags in the government dictate.

Normalcy Bias's picture

My Aunt with chronic back problems described her experience with Fentanyl as "otherworldy."

I never understood addiction until someone forced me against my will to snort cocaine in the early 90's. Cocaine IS a hell of a drug!

LowerSlowerDelaware_LSD's picture
LowerSlowerDelaware_LSD (not verified) Normalcy Bias Dec 9, 2016 4:12 PM

"...until someone forced me against my will to snort cocaine in the early 90's."

That is a very interesting statement...

Normalcy Bias's picture

It's not to be taken too seriously...

SixIsNinE's picture

Micrograms, baby ! 

wait till next year's Nanogram opioid arrives from China, fresh for the new year's chillen

Dickweed Wang's picture

Carfentanil is here now, 100 times more powerful than fentanyl.


TOTALLY WRONG OJ!!  Carfentanyl is over 1,000 times more potent than regular fentanyl.  The dosage that would kill a normal person that has had no exposure to opiates is about 1/10,000 of a gram.  Even for someone that has an opiate tolerance playing with something like Carfentanyl is simply a death sentence.  That drug is so powerful the only mammals it is used on are elephants . . .

Volaille de Bresse's picture

I thought you were jokign but no... Shit!

Seasmoke's picture

Gold price may be killing people next. Getting hammered right now AGAIN. $20 @ day. All day. Every day.

Arnold's picture

You used to be old fashioned gay and care free, Sea.

Metals addiction?

Can we get you some help?


oddjob's picture

Excessive poundage like this warrants buying JNUG calls.

AlexCharting's picture

Rodrigo Duterte got a solution to this equation.... guns do kill people, so the solution is to point and click towards the right people. 

mkkby's picture

He should be everyone's hero.  See a drug dealer -- just shoot him and I'll give you a medal.


samsara's picture

"The epidemic of heroin and opioid related deaths in the US continues to grow"

But the good news is that the CIA's Black Budget never has been better

HRH Feant's picture
HRH Feant (not verified) Dec 9, 2016 2:47 PM

Heroin is highly addictive and deadly. I knew that from a very age (having grown up in the late 1960s and early 1970s) and never touched the stuff for that very reason.

Unless you are seriously ill or in extreme pain I advise people stay away from opiates.

panhead20's picture

Some of the commonly prescribed pain killers are more addictive than heroin. When the doctor cuts off the prescribed drugs the addicted patient resorts to heroin.

buzzsaw99's picture

i don't see the problem. give them as much as they want.

darteaus's picture

Will Obama take "credit" for this?