Ten Electoral College Electors Want Briefing On "Russian Interference" Before Presidential Vote

Tyler Durden's picture

In our initial take on the Washington Post's story about the "secret" CIA assessment that Russia helped Trump win the election (since contested by the FBI), we said that this may amount to nothing short of a "soft coup" attempt by leaders in the US Intel community and the Obama administration, and warned to expect of a push by prominent democrats to pressure the electoral college to "take into consideration" these findings next Monday, on December 19, when the formal vote for president is set to take place.

This is how we summarized the newly-formed narrative:

  1. Announce "consensus" (not unanimous) "conclusion" based in circumstantial evidence now, before the Electoral College vote, then write a report with actual details due by Jan 20.
  2. Put a proven liar - James Clapper - in charge of writing the report on Russian hacking.
  3. Fail to mention that not one of the leaked DNC or Podesta emails has been shown to be inauthentic. So the supposed Russian hacking simply revealed truth about Hillary, DNC, and MSM collusion and corruption.
  4. Fail to mention that if hacking was done by or for US government to stop Hillary, blaming the Russians would be the most likely disinformation used by US agencies.
  5. Expect every pro-Hillary lapdog journalist - which is virtually all of them - in America will hyperventilate (Twitter is currently on fire) about this latest fact-free, anti-Trump political stunt for the next nine days.

To be sure, shortly after our post, first Paul Krugman, then other prominent liberals including Nate Silver and various House representative, validated out point: if Russia has indeed intervened, then the electoral college must be made aware, and briefed ahead of the Dec. 19 vote. It culminated with a Politico report on Saturday, according to which a Democratic congressman suggested that members of the Electoral College should be able to consider Russian interference in the presidential election — and whether it influenced the outcome — when deciding how to cast their vote.

Cicilline appears to be the first member of Congress and the highest-ranking elected official in the country to endorse the notion that electors aren’t simply rubber stamps for their states’ popular vote. Earlier Saturday, he retweeted a Rhode Island-based national security expert who argued that the intelligence community “must brief electoral college about Russia before vote.”


"To the extent that foreign interference in the United States presidential elections may have influenced the final result, I believe the electors have the right to consider that,” Rep. David Cicilline (D-R.I.) said in a statement to POLITICO on Saturday.


“EC exists to protect republic from candidate under foreign influence,” the expert, Salve Regina University researcher Jim Ludes, wrote.


Cicilline stopped short of endorsing that sentiment in his statement to POLITICO. But in a second tweet on Saturday, he urged the White House to publicize information surrounding the CIA’s assessment that Russia intervened in the election to help Trump. “Before the Electoral College votes,” he added.

Fast forward to Monday, when Democratic lawmaker Jim Himes was lobbying the Electoral College to shun Donald Trump, and vote for Hillary Clinton — even though he conceded Monday that the Republican won the election “fair and square.” As the Post reported, Rep. Jim Himes’ (D-Conn.) plea comes a week before the Dec. 19 vote, which is expected to affirm the results of the Nov. 8 election, in which Trump beat Clinton with 306 Electoral College votes.

“We’re 5 wks from Inauguration & the President Elect is completely unhinged. The electoral college must do what it was designed for,” Himes wrote Sunday night on Twitter in response to Trump’s gripe that NBC’s “Nightly News” is “biased, inaccurate and bad, point after point.”

In an interview Monday on CNN’s “New Day,” Himes said that Trump’s refusal to say that the Russian hacked Democrats during the election was what prompted his plea to the electoral college.

“What finally pushed me over the edge was when the president-elect of the United States criticized the CIA and the intelligence community. Can you imagine what the leaders in Beijing and Moscow and Tehran are thinking as they watch the next president of the United States de-legitimize and criticize his own intelligence community and stand up for the defense of Russia, one of our prime adversaries,” said Himes.


The Democratic rep said the move would result in “an awful lot of litigation,” but said it was the right thing to do under the system that currently exists. “The Electoral College, if you read the Federalist papers and understand why it is there, it is a group of people. It is not an algorithm. It is not a set of ballots. It is a group of people that our Founding Fathers, you know, to whom supposedly we all sort of defer to, pledged the idea that if someone gets elected that is manifestly ill equipped to be president … that the Electoral College can step in.” he said.

Still Himes, who said Trump isn’t qualified to be a “mayor of a small town in Connecticut,” admitted that “under the rules, President-elect Donald Trump won “fair and square.”

In any case, it will likely come as no surprise that moments ago ten Electoral College electors have asked U.S. intelligence officials for more information on ongoing investigations surrounding President-elect Donald Trump’s relationship with Russia, complying with the narrative as laid out on Saturday.

The group of electors, which includes the daughter of House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi, wrote an open letter to Director of National Intelligence James Clapper asking for the information ahead of their Dec. 19 meeting to formally vote for the next president, the Hill reports.

“The Electors require to know from the intelligence community whether there are ongoing investigations into ties between Donald Trump, his campaign or associates, and Russian government interference in the election, the scope of those investigations, how far those investigations may have reached, and who was involved in those investigations,” the letter read.

“We further require a briefing on all investigative findings, as these matters directly impact the core factors in our deliberations of whether Mr. Trump is fit to serve as President of the United States.”

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To be sure, the Electoral College's appeal faces a steep uphill climb if it is to succeed: nine Democrats and only one Republican signed the letter. The Republican, Christopher Suprun, has said that he won't vote for Trump when the Electoral College meets. So far no other republicans have expressed an interest in challenging the vote outcome. Also on Monday, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell rejected Sen. John McCain's call for a special panel to investigate Russian election interference.

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evoila's picture

why don't they get a briefing on the DNC interference in the democratic parties nomination process

Holy hand grenade of Antioch's picture
Holy hand grenade of Antioch (not verified) strannick Dec 12, 2016 11:20 AM

Briefing by WHO[m]... ffs


WaPo? CIA? NYT? Podesta? Alefanti? Chef Goy-ar-Dee? NetanYAHOO?


Or, their impartial ace in the hole, Soros?




No doubt the 'speciual prosecutor' in this matter will have a name that rhymes with:


Bernie Solomon Finklewarburgschwartzblumgoldfarbstein

Timmay's picture

Still no mention that IF the election was hacked, it was Obama's fault. Amazing.

BaBaBouy's picture

WTF... These guys are just Vote Zombies, just fucking do your task...

Handful of Dust's picture

When do "intelligence" officials brief up on indictments for the crimes Hillary committed and arrest warrants for Huma, Mills, Podesta, and others in or associated with the DNC corruption?

Richard Chesler's picture

“We further require a briefing on all investigative findings, as these matters directly impact the core factors in our deliberations of whether Mr. Trump is fit to serve as President of the United States.”


Quick, make some shit up!

NoDebt's picture

Give thise 10 Electors their fucking briefing, let them change their votes to Hillary for all the fucking good it will do them (they were going to switch their votes anyway) and let's get this over with already.


Manthong's picture

Oh, that’s great…

The hens are asking the fox for a briefing on poultry protection.

froze25's picture

Oh how the world has changed, I never thought I would see the Leftwing Radicals become a total cheer leaders for the CIA.

Yog Soggoth's picture

And bringing up the Federalist papers? Like they give a crap about the writings that precluded the Constitution. Note they did not quote much from said source.

Oldwood's picture

Progressives, like Islamists, are for whatever moves their agenda forward. Right and wrong, propriety, fairness, morality, NONE of it has a damned thing to do with their behavior except to use it as a bloody club against their opponents. The left will deride conservatives any time they (the left) are in the minority, insisting that conservatives should show deference to them BECAUSE they are in the minority, but when they win, they tell us that elections have consequences...we lost, sit down and shut up because THEY are the voice of the people. 

We will never win using facts and debate. Seldom do they even entertain such notions in the first place, yet we continue to scream about facts, figures, REALITY, while they mock us, calling us every derogatory name in the book, for which we sit back on our heals and immediately begin apologizing. 

Fuck these people. Kickem in the nuts (or equivalent if they even possess such things anymore). Return insult with insult, NEVER apologizing for ANY of it. Lets just stop wasting time trying to make our case. The case was made a thousand years ago and we are still arguing for it. Stop it! 

These people are using lies, exaggerations and false rhetoric to sway public opinion, to usurp our constitution and election process. Lets just call them the lying sacks of shit they really are and be done with it. Trump has the right idea here...if we hadn't already figured that out. Call them out on this shit rather than making cogent arguments. With ever mention of Trump's illegitimacy, respond with "YOU LYING SACK OF SHIT". Nothing more..or less.

BigJim's picture

The ironic thing is that the average American's interests are probably more aligned with Putin's than Hillary's.

esum's picture

the CIA is infiltrated with LIBTARDS...


neither ever did an op in thier entire careers....

asskissing left wing desk jockeys... analysts who alter intel to suit left wing ideas...


auricle's picture

What a banana republic. What is the world thinking when looking in on our 'free and fair' elections. What a joke we are. Moral leaders? 

smithcreek's picture

McCain is such a vindictive petty little piece of shit.

froze25's picture

There has never been a war that McCain hasn't fully supported.

azusgm's picture

Wait. Nine of them are democrats who already are going to cast their votes for Hillary and the other one is Chris Suprun?

What did we expect anyway?

Circus. California should secede before the earthquake gets them so maybe we can avoid the civil war these people want to start.

froze25's picture

I have totally promoted the idea of California secession. Let them implode on their own if they choose to. They can have the Cities but the Farm land remains in the Republic.

Gaius Petronius's picture

Californians aren't thinking with their heads, only with their emotions,  Let's say that they voted yes and the USG agreed to allow them to secede.  Set aside all the issues over reimbursement of federal dollars, Californian's share of the US Debt, and all the other technicalities that would need to be worked out.  There's still one big f'in issue: water.  California doesn't have access to it.  If they vote to secede, the US cuts them off from water.  Then what?  Salization plants galore?  Here comes the very global warming they wanted to avoid?  You got to think about your behavior before you act.

bh2's picture

"Let's say that they voted yes and the USG agreed to allow them to secede."

The USG has nothing to say about it. The other states arguably could dump California by way of a constitutional convention, as I've suggested elsewhere, and possibly even without express agreement of California. (Think of that as being "un-invited".)

The federal entity cannot determine the fate of any state admitted to the union. The states are not subdivisions of the federal government, which only has agency by way of limited powers delegated (not abandoned) to it by the several states.

The states, however, do hold sole power to determine the fate of the federal entity. Changes recommended by a constitutional convention which are ratified by 3/4 of the state legislatures (on a one-for-one basis) become binding fundamental law and the federal government (or what remains of it) doesn't get a vote.

If whatever they taught you in school was anything different, you were lied to.

finametrics's picture

if i was a betting man, i would put a few shekels on the cali earthquake theory. 

Chris Dakota's picture
Chris Dakota (not verified) NoDebt Dec 12, 2016 12:21 PM

I told you guys....election void of course moon, Mercury goes retrograde on the 19th, problem.

Then when this goes to the congress to count votes, problem.

Inauguration, problem.

Inauguration may be delayed to February.

But it won't be Hillary, she is finished.

Bubba Rum Das's picture

This is complete & utter Fucking Nonsense & FAKE NEWS...WHY?

To begin w/, the state of CA electors MUST vote for the candidate that won the popullar vopte in CA...Pelosi's daughter IS a CA State Elector, thus she will be voting for Hillary Clinton, so WHY does she need to be informed in regards to ANY investigations purportedly involving Donald Trump, as SHE WILL BE VOTING FOR HILLARY ANYWAY?

Dabooda's picture

Maybe Pelosi's spawn is  thinking of changing her vote to Trump?  Being a genetic mutant with a malfunctioning brain, she may "think" that Russia is still full of commies, and if they support Trump, he must be a good guy?  :)

BarkingCat's picture

They are already voting for her.

These are 9 democrats and one shit brain republican.


Sick Underbelly's picture

...or else, WHAT?   What the fuck are they going to do if they get into the briefing and are told "ain't got shit...it ain't real, bitchez!"

Are these fuckwads going to vote their state outcome, then?

Are they just there to tell us that they need whatever excuse possible so they can "vote their conscience" and not the will of the millions who voted in their state?

I wanna see how fucking tough and "demanding" they can be when 500k+ people show up at their fucking door with their demands for these fuckheads' life for not voting their will.

I don't give a shit what side of the aisle, if you wanna not vote the will of the people who cast votes, then you should be willing to defend yourself against any and all of those people who voted.

If this woman thinks she would have favor and be treated more gently than a man because of her pussy....all I can say is that more than a few men in the crowd might take that as an "invitation", if you get my drift.

There need to be tougher penalties imposed on douchebag electors who don't vote with the State.

As it stands, right now, for Electoral Votes:   Trump 306, Clinton 232

10 known fucktards, presumably in favor of Clinton, is not going to change it.  Trump needs 270, and would have 296 to "da hag's" 242.


azusgm's picture

If all 10 of these electors voted for Hillary, the count would be Trump 305, Clinton 233. Nine of them are already democrat electors in democrat states.

remain calm's picture

These 10 people want to be the Judge, Jurror and Sentencing vehicle, with no dispute of the evidence. Shoot these anarchist.

xavi1951's picture

Who is going to brief them?  Podesta?

wildbad's picture

i've got your briefing right here.

vote trump like you've been elected and have sworn to do.

don't try to make yourself more important than you are. do not steal my vote because you've been paid to or been threatened to.

if you can't see you're being played you are too dumb to be an elector and the responsibility will be taken away from you with extreme prejudice.

azusgm's picture

When do the intelligence officials investigate Seth Rich's murder?

How about the "murder/suicide" of the other person who was said to have leaked documents?

(Clapper never should have been confirmed. Or Holder. Or Lynch.)

UndergroundPost's picture

So Trump gets 305 instead of 306, result is the same: SMASHING OF GLOBALISM. Here are the fake electors:

Christine Pelosi (CA)

Michael Baca (CO)

Anita Bonds (DC)

Courtney Watson (MD)

Dudley Dudley (NH)

Bev Hollingworth (NH)

Terie Norelli (NH)

Carol Shea-Porter (NH)

Clay Pell (RI)

Chris Suprun (TX)

Handful of Dust's picture

Petition Started to Remove Rogue Texas Elector Chris Suprun from Texas Electoral College


azusgm's picture

Go to change.org and try to find that petition. I couldn't find it. In fact, I signed that petition several days ago through an email link, not by going directly to change.org. There are several petitions to use the electoral college to dump Trump but the one to dump Chris Suprun does not come up. Maybe it is because I have already signed that petition.

I would appreciate it if some other ZHers would try to find that thing and let us know if change.org has buried it.

Gaius Petronius's picture

He's days as a member of the GOP in Texas are done.  He'll be moving over to the Dems or he's out of politics.

Syrin's picture

I guess these dumb fucks don't fear fior their lives or give a shit about their families.

Chris Dakota's picture
Chris Dakota (not verified) UndergroundPost Dec 12, 2016 12:45 PM

Well, well, well....

Christine Pelosi works for  Democracy Partners along with Robert Creamer... "We've been rigging elections for 50 yrs".....hahahaha!


cheech_wizard's picture

Who the fuck names their kid Dudley Dudley? 


boattrash's picture

...and what level of Security Clearance do these 10 cocksuckers hold? The same one as HRC's "friend"?

44_shooter's picture

I'm Christine Pelosi, damit - Nancy's daughter for Christ's sake. 

boattrash's picture

I was drawing a blank, but I think it was Sid Blumenthal w/out the clearance, Rcvng then "advising" her...

Chris Dakota's picture
Chris Dakota (not verified) 44_shooter Dec 12, 2016 12:34 PM

She means nothing, Hillary won in California.

Thought Processor's picture


I'm sure that votes were hacked. Especially in the primaries which frankly is the wild west of voting.  But certainly not by Russia.  


The real question is why is it still possible to 'hack' votes in this day in age?  It is possible to set up secure, reduntantly verifiable voting mechanisms everywhere.  So why are these not in place?



azusgm's picture

No need to try to fiddle with the popular vote in the dem primary really. The superdelegate votes all went to Hillary. Bernie could not have won the nomination in a popular landslide.

If they want to talk about the electoral college, they may wish to discuss the superdelegates. Dontcha think?

remain calm's picture

Trump 2024. Amend the constitution so these ass holes have to suffer here on earth before they go to hell.