Top US Spy Agency Refuses To Endorse CIA's Russian Hacking Assessment Due To "Lack Of Evidence"

Tyler Durden's picture

When the WaPo posted last Friday's story about a "secret" CIA assessment that Russian cyber attacks were aimed at helping Republican President-elect Donald Trump win the 2016 election, the readers of the Bezos-owned publication took it as gospel, despite, as we promptly noted, there being no evidence provided by the CIA, and as we learned today, the FBI openly resisting the CIA's assessment. It now appears that once again the WaPo may have been engaging in "partial fake news", as it did with its Nov. 24 story about "Russian propaganda fake media."

According to Reuters, the so-called overseers of the U.S. intelligence community as it supervises the 17 agency-strong U.S. intelligence community, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI), while not disputing the CIA's analysis of Russian hacking operations - something which would be unprecedented for the US spy industry and would telegraph just how partisan and broken the country's intelligence apparatus has become - has refused to endorse the CIA's assessment "because of a lack of conclusive evidence" that Moscow intended to boost Trump over Democratic opponent Hillary Clinton.

As Reuters conveniently notes, the ODNI position could give Trump fresh ammunition to dispute the CIA assessment, which he rejected as "ridiculous" in weekend remarks, and press his assertion that no evidence implicates Russia in the cyber attacks. The ODNI's position confirms that Trump was once again, you guessed it, right.

"ODNI is not arguing that the agency (CIA) is wrong, only that they can't prove intent," said one of the three U.S. officials. 

As reported earlier, the FBI, whose evidentiary standards require it to make cases that can stand up in court, likewise declined to accept the CIA's analysis - a deductive assessment of the available intelligence - for the same reason, the three officials said.

The ODNI, headed by James Clapper, was established after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the recommendation of the commission that investigated the attacks. The commission, which identified major intelligence failures, recommended the office's creation to improve coordination among U.S. intelligence agencies.

As a reminder, the first hint that the US would scapegoat Russia for an "unexpected election outcome" took place on October 7, when the U.S. government formally accused Russia of a campaign of cyber attacks against American political organizations ahead of the Nov. 8 presidential election. Back then, president Barack Obama has said he warned Russian President Vladimir Putin about consequences for the attacks. Reports of the assessment by the CIA, which has not publicly disclosed its findings, have prompted congressional leaders to call for an investigation.

The narrative escalated rapidly last week, when outgoing president Obama ordered intelligence agencies to review the cyber attacks and foreign intervention in the presidential election and to deliver a report before he turns power over to Trump on Jan. 20.

So how did the CIA come to its conclusion?

According to Reuters, the agency assessed after the election that the attacks on political organizations were aimed at swaying the vote for Trump because the targeting of Republican organizations diminished toward the end of the summer and focused on Democratic groups, a senior U.S. official told Reuters on Friday. Moreover, only materials filched from Democratic groups - such as emails stolen from John Podesta, the Clinton campaign chairman - were made public via WikiLeaks, the anti-secrecy organization, and other outlets, U.S. officials said.

The CIA conclusion - one of induction and no supporting evidence - was a "judgment based on the fact that Russian entities hacked both Democrats and Republicans and only the Democratic information was leaked," one of the three officials said on Monday. "(It was) a thin reed upon which to base an analytical judgment," the official added.

Earlier Monday, Senator John McCain said on Monday also confronted the CIA's assessment, saying there was "no information" that Russian hacking of American political organizations was aimed at swaying the outcome of the election. "It's obvious that the Russians hacked into our campaigns," McCain said. "But there is no information that they were intending to affect the outcome of our election and that's why we need a congressional investigation," he told Reuters.

McCain also questioned an assertion made on Sunday by RNC Chair Reince Priebus, who said that there were no hacks of computers belonging to Republican organizations. "Actually, because Mr. Priebus said that doesn't mean it's true," said McCain. "We need a thorough investigation of it, whether both (Democratic and Republican organizations) were hacked into, what the Russian intentions were. We cannot draw a conclusion yet. That's why we need a thorough investigation."

Well, just because HIllary said that, it did make it true, so perhaps Reince is right as well?

Meanwhile, in an angry letter sent to ODNI chief Clapper on Monday, House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes said he was “dismayed” that the top U.S. intelligence official had not informed the panel of the CIA’s analysis and the difference between its judgment and the FBI’s assessment. Noting that Clapper in November testified that intelligence agencies lacked strong evidence linking Russian cyber attacks to the WikiLeaks disclosures, Nunes asked that Clapper, together with CIA and FBI counterparts, brief the panel by Friday on the latest intelligence assessment of Russian hacking during the election campaign.

We, for one, can't wait to hear his testimony - under oath - why in the span of one month so much has changed, and who precisely prompted the CIA to "infer" that Russia is responsible for Hillary Clinton's loss. Or maybe we will just have to wait for Wikileaks, pardon Russia, to hack Podesta's email account for that first?

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wisehiney's picture

ivy league pedophiles

Ms. Erable's picture

More fake news. The Hitleryites are probably having a good laugh about this over a few 8-year-old 'pizzas'.

Chris Dakota's picture
Chris Dakota (not verified) Ms. Erable Dec 12, 2016 10:23 PM

Just install a few more generals and this shit will stop.

CheapBastard's picture

It eludes me why no one is calling for an immediate investigation of the criminal and unethical behavior of Hillary and her Gangsters that was exposed by these emails.

bamawatson's picture

no one who matters is calling

letsit's picture
letsit (not verified) bamawatson Dec 12, 2016 11:30 PM

That Russian Hacking propaganda is to mask the fact that the election was stolen.

Mano-A-Mano's picture
Mano-A-Mano (not verified) letsit Dec 12, 2016 11:31 PM


tazs's picture

Russian HAcking? Pfft! Misdirection.

Holy hand grenade of Antioch's picture
Holy hand grenade of Antioch (not verified) tazs Dec 13, 2016 12:13 AM

Judge Hank "The Hangman" BMW: Now prosecutor, why you think he done it?

Prosecutor: 'Kay. Number one your honor, just look at him. And B, we've got all this, like, evidence, of how, like, this guy didn't even pay at the hospital. And I heard that he doesn't even have his tattoo.

[crowd boos]

Prosecutor: I know! And I'm all, 'you've gotta be shittin' me!' But check this out man, judge should be like

[bangs fist on table]

Prosecutor: 'guilty!' Peace.

Manthong's picture

Tsk, Tsk…  it looks like the war mongering neocons and neolibs are soon to lose their favorite demon.

They will have to find another one.

How about France?

Everybody loves to hate cheese eating surrender monkeys.


BennyBoy's picture


Could this be the first time James Clapper tells the truth?!

fleur de lis's picture

Neither Clapper nor any of his hoodlum friends are capable of truth.

They're not even capable of American loyalty.

And the ODNI baby sitting agency was put in place after 9/11 -- does anyone else find that to be a little coincidental?

So the watchers are being watched.

And who runs ODNI?

Someone in DC or a more distant location? 


WordSmith2013's picture


CIA Executing A Coup! Electors Demand Intelligence Briefing! Clinton, Soros, Obama Will Not Accept Trump Win!
fleur de lis's picture

ODNI -- who knew?

All the CIA/NSA/FBI gang fights have brought the official baby sitter to the surface.

The baby sitter must be really annoyed that the petulant "intelligence" agencies are attracting so much negative attention.

Children should be seen and not heard but now the "intelligence" brats have made a wild ruckus for their Clinton friends and everyone is looking.

The brats let the cat out of the bag and the baby sitter won't like that one bit. 

The baby sitter will start to issue friendly reminders about proper behavior in public and keeping the citizenry in the dark.

Then the baby sitter and the Clintons will duke it out.


CuttingEdge's picture

A shame the leakers of the DNC and Podesta email servers (more than evens they are disgruntled insiders) cannot be identified and throw that Russian bullshit out of the window.

And a shame whistleblowers are villified as traitors rather than honoured as true patriots working in a crooked system.

fleur de lis's picture

As long as the MSM and CIA are best friends nothing can get done.

The MSM liars keep reinforcing the lie that the CIA works for America when in fact they work for the NWO, the narcotics trade, the Fed and central bankers, etc.

Then CIA talkers hog the TV camera telling demented fairy tales about Russian wolves to frighten the American public, while spitting out more lies about concern for the election.

As if the CIA ever cared about free and fair elections.

The Podesta emails are repugnant to us, but the CIA knew about the contents all along.

They protected the weirdos because they are also weirdos.

They've been to more weird ceremonies as guests than they would ever admit.

They wouldn't want the public to think that they're weirdos.

The CIA operatives are weirdo welfare queens with guns.

Most if not all of them belong in a hospital for the criminally insane.

The CIA had a hand in the murder of JFK, so let them solve that one instead of creating more problems.

Or they can work on the murders of Terry Yeakey, Col. James Sabow, Col.Nick Rowe, Col. Cutolo, etc.

Maybe they could spend some time on the mass murders of 9/11.

No, the CIA would rather tell demented fairy tales about Russian wolves and American elections.

The CIA invented LSD and poisoned the American populace.

The CIA have a history of abusing the American military to accomplish NWO objectives.

Asisde from being mercs for whomever can pay, has the CIA ever done anything to improve America in any way?

They need to be disbanded and locked up.

They can share cells with their crazy and equally treasonous MSM friends.



Sick Underbelly's picture

I think this is very ironic and pathetic.  You have the "old guard"...the seasoned folk who lived through the Cold War Era bullshit pandering of "Evil Russians" who are, unfortunately, STILL running shit, trying to play old-school "scare them with the Evil Russians gig, that works wonders!"

Little do they realize:  they are like the slow-motion video of grandma, frame by frame, slipping on the ice, feet flying up, fat ass gingerly suspended, and that fucked-up-blue head of hair not even crunching in because the motor cortex hasn't even processed yet what the fuck happened.  You just absolutely know "that shit's gonna hurt...she'll be lucky if no bones are broken...better call an ambulance."

From a distance, you very well fucking know grandma ain't tucking in her head; grandma ain't floating down like a feather; and she sure as fuck ain't gonna be the same, and you better start reaching for the phone, as an emergency crew needs brought in.

phreezerburn's picture

Bingo. Why would ANY whistleblower come forward in America with Obama still on the throne?

philipat's picture

Dear letsit, tazs, techies-r-us, stizazz, lock-stock, beauticelli, Mano-A-Mano, mofio, santafe, Aristotle of Greece, Gargoyle, bleu, oops, lance-a-lot, Loftie, toro, Yippee Kiyay, lonnng, Nekoti, SumTing Wong, King Tut, Adullam, espirit, rp2016, Holy hand grenade of Antioch, One of these is not like the others, amongst many others, I wonder why you continue to talk to yourself? When you use honest disclosure in the link to your Biblicism Institute site (Even though the site has no connection whatsoever to your comments) I will  not respond with a SPAM alert. So there is no need to talk to yourself to prevent my SPAM alert appearing right below your fake links. Unless you see the need to congratulate and/or reassure yourself on your clever comments, knowing that nobody else will? Alternatively, it can only mean you are seriously mentally ill. Talking to yourself is not good; you MUST remember to take your meds.

SixIsNinE's picture

alright shitsit - you've burned your candle as long as the wick can stand - now it's time to say goodbye to the ZH lounge

you've abused your privilege and now we're goiong to send your off tonight - that's right - tonight 14 Dec 2016 - we're sending you off to somewhere else where you can learn and grow.... you have NO more access to ZHlounge and if ANY ZH members ever see you again  you are obliterated.  Do YOU understand me NOW ?


Chris Dakota's picture
Chris Dakota (not verified) CheapBastard Dec 12, 2016 10:38 PM

Im thinking he needs to be sworn in, we won't know until then.

I have an idea but I don't want to say.

Did you know that Chilean coup d'état was on September 11, 1973.

auricle's picture

The liar Clapper won't endorse a lie? That's fresh stuff. 

Peterk_kk's picture

And if McCain can smell the possibility of gun powder he jumps into the swamp.

spdrdr's picture

What 'Bastard, are you trying to say that the Clinton/Podesta e-mails were not fake?  That they were accurate representations of communications between the various parts of the Clinton machine?

I thought I heard that the e-mails were completely false, because they were stolen!


DeadFred's picture

It's all Podesta's fault but no worries, he hasn't been heard from in a month. He sleeps with the fishes.

Mr.BlingBling's picture

I thought he slept with the hot dogs.

beemasters's picture

The real thought of his hotdog stand in Hawaii would make anyone shudder.

SoilMyselfRotten's picture

Podesta would hang with fish if it got him closer to schools

trulz4lulz's picture

He is in haiti collecting black walnuts for his favorite sauce.

fleur de lis's picture

Podesta sleeps with the fishes?

Fat chance.

Over the weekend he was yammering again about the election.


Kidbuck's picture

Quiet down please, January 20th restarts the clock on all Hillary investigations, If Obuttfuck forgets to pardon her.

CuttingEdge's picture

Giving someone a pardon who has yet to be charged with anything is downright embarrassing, never mind a whole slew of 'em.

Mind you, it might be the only thing left of Obumfuck's legacy that is protected after the 20th.

projack's picture

Also how the Russians tricked Donna Brazile into giving Hillary debate questions.

Squid-puppets a-go-go's picture

The reason the FBI cant act is that the pizzagate evidence shows 2 DOJ heads implicated in the cult - Arun Rao (head of child trafficking, if that doesnt make you vomit with horror) and Andrew Kline

That means when the FBI take their evidence to the dOJ and ask it to prosecute, well, we know why the FBI dont have much confidence.

Until after Jan 20, when they might have a shot

RiverRoad's picture

"It eludes me why no one is calling for an immediate investigation of the criminal and unethical behavior of Hillary and her Gangsters that was exposed by these emails."

This is nothing more than a pathetic attempt by Obama to write his own final chapter in the history books.  Unfortunately for him his legacy will amount to nothing more than a typo.

Sick Underbelly's picture

It seems you are.  Give yourself credit!   *grin*

I get it, though:  officials we are PAYING to do their jobs are not.  Maybe enough of We the People should be yelling for them to do their friggen jobs.

Ballin D's picture

Do they call children pizzas before or after they torture and rape them? Or does Clinton just call them pizzas regardless of what abuse has already happened?

trulz4lulz's picture

Before. Theyre referred to as broken HDD when theyre done. Then they are sent to Hawaii to be melted.

Sick Underbelly's picture

Over 10 Wi-Fi signals from that underground "bunker" place.   A shipping company with no revenues reported...tied to a billionaire.

Oh oh...down the rabbit holes we could go.

Kirk2NCC1701's picture

I prefer my Pizza Justine good Scotch: > 18 y.o.

Actually, the more aged, the better. Within reason.

small axe's picture

and definitely bush league

Black Helicopterz's picture

I think we're all for free speech here, but I don't know that this comment adds much to the conversation. It actually seems like a complete non sequitor. Keep it in context next time.

HRH Feant's picture
HRH Feant (not verified) Dec 12, 2016 10:14 PM

Good. Finally the adults have arrived and the tantrum throwers can go tuck themselves into bed with wet diapers.

flaminratzazz's picture

The crazy train lost it brakes and is out of control.. no stopping it, it has to self destruct.

HRH Feant's picture
HRH Feant (not verified) flaminratzazz Dec 12, 2016 10:22 PM

How many folks here knew the ODNI existed until reading this article? My guess: .0001.