British Member Of Parliament Accuses Russia Of Manipulating Brexit Vote

Tyler Durden's picture

First, the US blamed Russian hackers for Hillary Clinton's unexpected loss, a narrative which continues to reverberate with the relentless crusade by both the WaPo and NYT against "fake news." then Germany preemptively blamed Russia for a potential loss by Angela Merkel in the upcoming elections: as we reported last night, Germany's domestic intelligence agency is reporting a "striking increase" in Russian propaganda and disinformation campaigns aimed at destabilizing German society, and targeted cyber attacks against political parties.

Now, it's the UK's turn.

According to a former Labour Member of Parliament, Russian hackers "probably" swayed the EU referendum vote in favor of Brexit. Because - as is all too clear by now - when all else fails, and one needs a scapegoat that is too amused to respond to silly allegations, just blame the Russians.

As SkyNews reports, leading Remain campaigner Ben Bradshaw has joined the parade, and questioned the validity of the stunning June result, claiming people were underestimating the extent of cyber warfare by Russian President Vladimir Putin. It was not exactly clear how Putin "hacked" the UK, or the millions who voted for Brexit, but we'll let that slide for now.

His extraordinary claim came in an emergency Commons debate on the latest developments in Syria, where President Bashar Assad's Russian-backed forces have been storming the city of Aleppo.

Luckily, and unlike in the US, Bradshaw's allegation was given short shrift by Prime Minister Theresa May's spokesman, who responded: "I have not come across any evidence that Russian cyber warfare was used to influence the referendum. Unfortunately, in America, where there is the same amount of "evidence", this particular conspiracy theory is all the rage.

Bradshaw, dismissed as a "Remoaner" by Leave campaigners, told MPs: "I don't think we have even begun to wake up to what Russia is doing when it comes to cyber warfare. Not only their interference, now proven, in the American presidential campaign, probably in our own referendum last year." 

Proven? Where? Oh rather, he - like the NYT - believes that if you repeat a lie enough times, it becomes the "truth." Well, both the WaPo and the NYT are still going for it, so it may yet work.

Paradoxically Bradshaw, finding himself in the same sticky situation as Americans who have accused the Kremlin of stealing Hillary's victory, admitted that "we don't have the evidence for that yet", but then followed up with the even more brilliant "but I think it's highly probable." Just don't call it a conspiracy theory.

The paranoid Brit wasn't done, and predicted that cybersamurai Putin not only stole the Brexit vote, but would make sure Marine Le Pen wins the French presidential election:

"Certainly in the French presidential election, they will be involved, and there are already serious concerns in the German secret service that Russia is already interfering in the elections coming up."

His conclusion: "We've got to wake up to this."

Curiously, he wasn't the only Brit who appears to have lost his sense amid the global "Russian propaganda/fake news" disinformation campaign. Earlier this week, Defence Secretary Sir Michael Fallon said there was "a disturbing pattern" of allegations against Russia around cyber warfare.

He pointed to examples in Bulgaria, the referendum in the Netherlands and its continuing pressure on the Baltic states.

But Mrs May's spokesman said on Mr Bradshaw's claim: "The referendum was run in this country, it was a very clear vote and we are now getting on with delivering on the will of the people to take Britain out of the European Union."

In light of recent developments, one is almost shocked that sane voices can still be heard.

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JPMorgan's picture

Russia is getting beaten over the head constantly.

I for one want to see some bloody PROOF.

CuttingEdge's picture

This new post-election craze of people making complete twats of themselves for our entertainment?

It will end one day, right?

I mean...the abject stupidity on display is now starting get seriously disturbing.

Max UK's picture

OK, if all these spooks and politicians are saying that we the public are too gullible to see the real enemy that threatens us, I am sure that we here on ZH agree. 

It's just a case of identifying who that enemy really is. And it ain't Russia, it's much more insidous and closer to home than that.

Every single one of these Grimer Wormtongues that try to spreadtheir poison, are basically showing themselves. That's quite handy really.

Squid-puppets a-go-go's picture

scraped my knuckle on the carrot grater.

Fuckn Russians

Amalgamated Tang's picture

The Russians locked me out of my car and missed my next mortgage payment.

 

BullyDog's picture

Guys it's actually worse than what is being allowed to be reported.

1.  Russia were responsible for the extinction of the Dinosaurs, it's on the Discovery channel so must be true.

2.  Russia actually were the ones who crucified Jesus, they just pretended to be jewish.

3. Russia is behind Global warming, they have stolen all the ice in the north and keep it in Siberia instead of spreading it around to cool the planet.   

4.  They want to kill Santa Claus off too.   

 

We need to do something.  Soon.   

 

/sarc mode off, just in case any MSM american reporters are reading this.

Uncle Sugar's picture

So it's not Bush's fault anymore?

tmosley's picture

These idiots are tripping over each other trying to see who can destroy their credibility the fastest.

It would be funny if it wasn't so tremendously dangerous.

SoDamnMad's picture

Yes, because their real name was Bushovskya. I know this because, just because. George W Bushovskya use to have a summer place in Kennebunkport, Maine and go boating just like in Hunt for Red October so he must have been Russian and went boating to contact their submarines. Da

FlipFlop's picture

They have become insane collectively :)

smacker's picture

That's just for starters ,,,

- Russia was directly responsible for the nuclear meltdown in Fukushima. I know this for a fact because Michael Moore said it was.

- Russia was responsible for 9/11. The 19 arabs who thought they were taking part in a training exercise and would be paid well for their day's work were actually hand-picked, trained and funded by Putin himself. Little did they know that it wasn't a training exercise and Russian secret agents had taken over remote control of the airplanes to crash them into the twin towers. Other Russian secret agents secretly planted demolition explosives secretly in Building 7.

- Our popular colleague Boris on Zerohedge is in fact a Russian secret agent who is paid handsomely to feed Russian propaganda and to distract and redirect debate on Zerohedge in favour of Vladimir Putin.

- WilliamBanzai7 is a Russian KGB handler, paid to produce subtle brainwashing cartoons on Zerohedge to distract people away from the take-over of the West by Putin.

         THE WEST MUST GO TO WAR WITH RUSSIA or we're doomed

,,,,,,,,,,,where's the Klintonista when you need her?

/s

 

In Ze No's picture

We need to start making these mocking comments publically.

SoDamnMad's picture

I wouod have had better grades in school if the Russians hadn't eaten my homework. 

OverTheHedge's picture

Hey there Kitty - you're just a spammer, like all the other spammers. Poor old MDB - reduced to running multiple accounts and spamming a pile of shit blog in the hopes of making $3.50 a week, like my mum's friend's daughter's hairdresser. He will be linking to the biblicism institute next.

KittyKittyBangBang  and MDB for that matter: Fuck off and die.

And I mean that in the best possible way ;-)

OverTheHedge's picture

And now to get back on topic: Here's a thought - if you didn't read Zero Hedge, you would probably believe what was in the papers too. I am alarmed to discover that the vast majority of the people in charge actually believe the propaganda put out by...the people in charge. It is a bit weird, but they believe the lies that they themselves create.

In other words, it is not so much a huge, convoluted conspiracy by a vast network of elites, but actually a bunch of idiots who can't see the wood for the trees, but are in charge for no other reason than that they want to be in charge. Different arms of the amoeba put out different bits of disinformation, based on their own narrow agenda, which is then taken as truth by the rest of the amoeba, even though those individual bits put out their own disinformation n a regular basis, so ought to know better.

As an example: (allegedly) the CIA started an unfounded rumour that Qadaffi was mad as a trout in a privet hedge, and it took about two weeks for the state department to voice concerns over news that Quadaffi had mental issues. And the rest, as they say, is history.

Dog, meet tail?

Nexus789's picture

It will all end with a big flash.  Well lots of them. 

Cruel Joke's picture

Sure, Marine Le Pen will win the French presidential election - and it will have nothing to do with russia or hacking or astology or anything dreamed up by asshats like this guy. The french people are in dire straits and the demographic development is horrible, so unless they want to see Notre Dame turned into the biggest mosque in Paris they will vote for Marine Le Pen. (Inshallah)

Ghordius's picture

not so sure that Marine Le Pen will win the French presidential elections

but "nothing to do with Russia"? not nothing. there is a loan she got from a Russian bank, for example

yes, she confirmed this herself

Russia 'bought' Marine Le Pen's support over Crimea - Telegraph

Le Pen's party asks Russia for €27m loan | The Times

We should beware Russia's links with Europe's right | Luke Harding ...

malek's picture

Ghordius still taking as dogma what the MSM writes...
plus by implication declaring non-existent every thing that it doesn't write about!

SoDamnMad's picture

The CIA has proof that STUPIDITY IS CONTAGIOUS.  Don't let it rub off on you.

tmosley's picture

>It will end one day, right?

Yes. January 20th.

EuroPox's picture

Not just leftoid media - it is now a bandwagon and all the usual suspects are jumping onboard.

The Germans and the French have already expressed concern that Russia will 'influence' their elections next year - morons.

In the meantime, this is what Putin thinks of it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOLpwEwVaQw

Ghordius's picture

+1 for mentioning that it isn't only the leftoid media

now, this article is about the UK. there, it would be a bit more balanced to talk about the influence of the...

... how to call it? the British rightoid media?

but hey, that would be too much to ask from someone that has a nick like "EuroPox", eh? after all, you need to vent your "morons" on the Germans and the French, and then you immediately go to quote Putin

further below, my post on the influence of the British "right-wing" press on the Brexit referendum

meanwhile... it was a Russian bank that recently bankrolled Marine Le Pen's campaigns. and yes, the "Alternative für Deutschland" (AfD) and several other new right-wing groups in Europe have the fingerprints on them of lots of Russian-friendly connections

I was not the only one that kept quiet as long as Washington looked rabid about Russia. Now, the Trump elections changes a bit the whole. There is no need to keep quiet anymore. Yes, Russian influence is real. Yes, money flows from Russia into lots of political propaganda, particularly here

It is legitimate, up to a certain point. But it is something that can also very legitimatly be fought against. Russia is neither the ArchEnemy nor the ArchAngel or this planet. Russia is a world power, and sometimes the Bear has to be shown some... boundaries, too. By the way, Putin and Abe might pull off a treaty to solve the problem they have with the islands in the north of Japan. Good for them. Did you know that technically, the two countries are kind of still at war, or at least not with a peace treaty signed?

EuroPox's picture

When speaking of the UK media you have to be careful - it is true that most of the UK printed media is rightwing (all with falling readership) but all the tv 'news' is lib/leftist.  The BBC in particular, is a fetid swamp of PC propaganda - their recent coverage of Aleppo has been completely misleading and utterly dishonest; according to the BBC Aleppo has 'fallen' to the Syrian government!  WTF!!!  SKY pushes much the same narrative but attempts to appear more balanced by giving 10 seconds to alternative views.

The BREXIT referendum is an interesting issue because all the MSM ganged up to try to push for remain - people voted OUT despite the MSM, because they are fed up with the status quo.  That has been confirmed time and time over the last 6 months.

What exactly is wrong with Russian influence?  Why should we be concerned about Russian influence rather than being concerned about US influence (Obama directly involved himself in BREXIT!) or about the influence peddled by Soros?  

Tell me that Soros is not an archenemy of freedom and liberty.  Tell me that the US has no involvement in the millions of migrants roaming the Middle East or raping women across Europe.  You can't.

Regarding the Russo-Japanese disputes: yes I am aware of that (I actually lived in ther Far East for some time) but there are many more ongoing conflicts that have lasted much longer.  The Indo Pakistani wars started in 1947 and have never been resolved.  The Kurdish rebellion started in 1918 and continues to this day. But the longest of all is the Russo-Chechen war which started in 1785 (231 years ago!) and has never been subject to a peace treaty. 

Edit:  when I said "all the MSM ganged up to try to push for remain" that is going a bit too far.  There were some very pro exit newspapers but the TV was dominated by remainers.

Ghordius's picture

good comment, but some of it is simply false

"all the MSM ganged up to try to push for remain" that's not my impression of the BBC coverage, for example

the BBC was constantly repeating both sides of every argument... without checking on the Leaver side's... bullshit

there was a red bus with "350 million per week for the NHS" banner, for example, that was not called out as completely false, for example

"Tell me that Soros is not an archenemy of freedom and liberty.  Tell me that the US has no involvement in the millions of migrants roaming the Middle East or raping women across Europe.  You can't. "

yes, I can call those two sentences... propaganda. Soros? not my concern, I do not need to defend him. Nor am I here to defend the US.

but the "millions of migrants raping women across Europe" is just "right-wing" bullshit. and I bet you know it, but you don't care. why?

if it's bullshit, it has to be called out as bullshit. I don't care if it's leftoid or rightoid bullshit, pro-Russia or anti-Russia bullshit. it stinks, period

nmewn's picture

I think the main point is if NWO-type governments weren't dickin around in places like Syria refugees (not immigrants, lets not confuse their status) wouldn't have the opportunity to rape anyone here, whether little boys or young women because they, ya know, wouldn't be here.

And I don't entertain the ridiculous idea promulgated or assertion in establishment NWO-type media brain trusts of some "mass rightwing xenophobia" occuring because its not that at all, as I'll circle back to what I just said about confusing their status...

...an IMMIGRANT desires to come to live and become a citizen of a certain country, to learn its customs & culture & people in order to assimilate into it. They choose that country to come to. A REFUGEE flees their country not giving much thought to where they end up and therefore less desirous of changing or conforming or assimilating into that countrys society.

Its a big difference.

EuroPox's picture

If you really believe Soros is not your concern, then I have a tower in Paris I would like to sell to you.  You might also refresh your memory with this:
 http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-08-16/soros-hack-reveals-plot-behind-...

You should also refer to this:  http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/742717/Migrant-asylum-seeker-refugee... which provides a map of migrant sex attacks in Germany.

I am all in favour of calling out BS, wherever it comes from: are you really suggesting that there are not millions of migrants in Europe?; are you really saying that there is not a rape epidemic across Europe, almost exclusively as a  result of the migrants?  

And actually I do care.  I care that none of us were ever given a choice in this matter; I care about the Europeans whose lives have been destroyed by the traitors they elected and I care that these migrants are still here!  I want them ALL gone and will gladly vote for anyone who will restore the ethnic balance of the continent.

 

Ghordius's picture

yes. you are referring to a "map of migrant sex"... from the Daily Express

what the Daily Express is not mentioning, is that the sources they used are... quite questionable

as the whole of bullshit that this newspaper is well known to publish

specifically, the Express quotes "XY-Einzelfall.de". a private org... that is known to be an "alternative media" outlet

and which does not care for being factual, I'm afraid

if you read German, just have a look how the "alternative media" http://de.metapedia.org/wiki/XY-Einzelfall

"staunchly defends" that outlet... with additional very "right-wing" remarks about Merkel, of course

yes. even the Daily Express mentions Germany... only, or nearly so. so much for "millions of migrants in Europe"

it was Germany that "opened the gates"

if you do care... care more for the details, in this huge ocean of misinformation and disinformation

as the saying goes, the devil is in the details. things like Hungary and Turkey, for example. "small", but relevant details

OverTheHedge's picture

Are you saying that there is no increase in attacks across Europe, or just that the sources are questionable, so by inference we should just question the whole meme of attacks across Europe? Probably we should just think about something else entirely, like amusing cats on Youtube....

I actually don't know if there are any increases in violence in different countries - Haus Targaryen would assure me that there are no unmolested women left north of the Alps, but then Swedish newspapers might suggest that there is no such thing as an immigrant, just differently sun-tanned citizens. I don't have access to either the data or the sources to make an informed decision, so I am left floundering about trying to draw conclusions based on rumour and innuendo, and people like your good self pour cold water on any "facts" that might wander through a conversation, leaving only more confusion. 

If I didn't know better, that would be your entire mission here - to dismay, disable, divert and redirect conversations. Am I right?

Ghordius's picture

OverTheHedge, yes. That "increase" is exactly the opposite. a decrease. from that mass-groping in Köln... which were btw other immigrants, not even refugees

further, that source is highly questionable, and no, the Daily Express could not care less

on the other side, yes, Swedish leftoid papers try to assure you that there is no such thing as an immigrant

which is bullshit. any million person generate over one year a statistical amount of murders, rapes, etc. etc. any million, note

and yes, every murder, every rape is one too many. and yet, that's humans

again, back to the XY-Einzelfall.de website: there is a lady in Germany that set up a counter-website called http://blog.hoaxmap.org

it tries to pin down and debunk the cases presented by XY-Einzelfall. one after the other. a question of... time, resources and effort, of course

"I don't have access to either the data or the sources to make an informed decision"

neither can I claim that I have access to much of it

"people like your good self pour cold water on any "facts" that might wander through a conversation, leaving only more confusion"

I'm sorry for the confusion, but I think you might agree that "facts" aren't facts

no. I am not in favour of open-door immigration. but I do not like "facts" being sold as pure, solid truths

and politically, I find myself having to push for state-funded fact finding... something that actually goes against my grain

back to the UK: there, I start to think that the EU even has to fund a small operation that just sues British tabloid rags for defamation/libel whenever they start to spread lies and half-truths about the EU. and that's even worse... and yet the only thing that would bring some facts back to the surface

so yes, you are right. and no, the only shield and defense I have is my past comments on ZH. trying to be skeptical, critical, and as truthful as I can

malek's picture

Ghordius: "having to push for state-funded fact finding"

And now he displays his unshakable belief that the state will fix everything... it just needs more power, rrright

Such a hopeless bonehead... attributing all the PROVEN lies disseminated by the German state as "mistakes/fault of single bureaucrats", and insisting the state is still the primary source of truth

Just keep saying it out loud, Ghordius:
"Ruhe ist die erste Buergerpflicht!"

Idaho potato head's picture

The globalist are truely in full retard. 

Jeffersonian Liberal's picture

Which is ironic, because it has been the Left that has ridiculed the Right since the 1950's over their "paranoia" about the "commie Russians." Even Zimmerman wrote a song "Talkin' John Birch Society Blues."

Now they turn around, when HRC loses an election because she is a criminal, and blame it on "those damn commie Russians."

Bunch of lying, thieving, power-mad tyrants.

Dead Canary's picture

This story just hit the wires:

"Putin killed JR."

That bastard is EVERYWHERE!

Pandrasus's picture

You'll have lost everyone under the age of 40 with that reference.

BabaLooey's picture

I bet the opposite.

I think Putin is laughing his ass off over all this shit.

Jeffersonian Liberal's picture

But no doubt he'd rather have Trump in power after watching this Leftist treachery that threatens America's stability as well as international stability.

And if Britain isn't careful, Putin will cut off their energy supply for these maligning accusations.

misalkin's picture

You might see proof of manipulation. So they will show their own manipulation their own hacking and blame it on Russia. Becouse their own hack wasn't big enough.

phoolish's picture

Um ... Brexit was voted w/ paper ballots.

Mass_hysteria's picture

The west are bloodthirsty filths! they are begging for a war! fucking cowards, why aren't you on the frontlines then!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?

KittyKittyBangBang's picture

mdb worst one @misshysteria... ..he start a #nukerussianow campain

webmatex's picture

The Bonushead - Seriously demented crack head. Always throws his shit on everyone else.

No love, no compassion, no intellect, The message is always NEGATIVE.

Some call his scribbling sarcasm but it is psycosis - he is ill, sick, contaminated.

His message is hate, division, lies and a raw torrent of putrid puked propaganda absorbed only by the most pitifull and deluded lost souls on this planet site.

His website is excrement and judging by his periodic (blood coming from everywhere) eruptions his condition is worsening.

Long puff and another coffee - good morning ZH.

 

 

 

taggaroonie's picture

Fuck. Right. Off. Cunt.

Mass_hysteria's picture

Disgusting people in suits, fuck me man