Someone Has Officially Called The CIA's Bluff Over Russia

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The scapegoating of Russia is now so widespread, Dirty Wars author and investigative journalist Jeremy Scahill took to The Intercept to call the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) on its bluff.

In the article, “Obama Must Declassify Evidence Of Russian Hacking,” Scahill and Jon Schwartz called out U.S. intelligence agencies for their record of deceit, asserting that the American people are not going to simply “take their word for it.”

U.S. intelligence agencies have repeatedly demonstrated that they regularly both lie and get things horribly wrong,” the article argues. But when it comes to the CIA’s case against Russia’s alleged interference with the latest U.S. presidential elections, it’s impossible to claim the hearsay is based on facts if evidence is not made available to support the agency’s claims.

Nevertheless, Scahill and Schwartz argue, it’s possible that Russia may have pulled some strings. But even if the Kremlin had its reasons and acted on them, America is the country with the long history of election meddling — not Russia.

Take Hillary Clinton’s comments on the Palestinian elections, for instance. A leaked audio recording from 2006 revealed then-senator Clinton advocated doing “something to determine who was going to win” in Palestine’s elections. And yet here she is, hoping to use the “Russia did it” talking point to give censorship a boost. The CIA has its own history of meddling in foreign elections.

In order to give Barack Obama’s administration that extra push to release any “proof” the CIA has that the 2016 U.S. elections were “rigged,” the Intercept’s duo encouraged feds or whistleblowers to use the publication’s secure drop link, where a “patriotic whistleblower” within the U.S. intelligence community may drop the leak that proves Russia is behind President-elect Donald Trump’s win. “[W]e will verify its legitimacy and publish it,” they added.

This response seems fitting. After all, assertions are not evidence, and major publications like the Washington Post have been basing their Russia-related reports using nothing but assumptions.

Using an anonymous source, for instance, the WaPo reported that “[U.S. intelligence] agencies have identified individuals with connections to the Russian government who provided WikiLeaks with thousands of hacked emails from the Democratic National Committee and others.” But Reuters has since reported that “[the] overseers of the U.S. intelligence community have not embraced a CIA assessment that Russian cyber attacks were aimed at helping Republican President-elect Donald Trump win the 2016 election.” This means the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) “has not endorsed [the CIA’s] assessment because of a lack of conclusive evidence.”

Caitlin Johnstone put it best in an article for Newslogue:

Believing something the CIA says is like trusting a meth addict with your car, and trusting the CIA when they’re working with the Washington Post is like trusting a meth addict with your car and leaving your kid in the back seat with the house keys and money for Taco Bell.”

Unless proof is produced either by the CIA or a whistleblower, partisan voices crying wolf in Washington and in the media will continue to run on empty, feeding their base with nothing but “fake news.” But wasn’t that what we were told to unite over so we could “fight” it effectively? Here’s your chance, Mr. President.

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Pumpkin's picture

CIA is running scared with Hillary. They all know their crimes.

Setarcos's picture

MAB.  Mutually Assured Blackmail.

bamawatson's picture

David Broctk and James Alefantis sold a house to Scott & Luz Driscoll for 2.25 million back in 2013: (link dead already, anyone got an archive please) - further proof: (full original article:

Scott T. Driscoll passed away a year before Comet Ping Pong opens, and 8 years before he buys the property with his wife from James & David:

[History -- Founding and Carole Greenwood -- Comet Ping Pong was originally founded by James Alefantis and Carole Greenwood in 2006. Source: Wikipedia]

Through a google search, we find Luz and Scott Driscoll are linked to this address: (page doesn't load for me)

Which is the same address David Brock and James Alefantis purchased back in 2007: - "In Kalorama, 2310 California Street, N.W, now belongs to bestselling author David Brock and his partner, restaurateur James Alefantis."

With database searches of James Alefantis, it confirms this property as his as well as other properties listed under that name:

1. 6513 Brawner ST Mc Lean, VA 22101

2. 2310 California ST NW Washington, DC 20008-1637

3. 1536 Swann ST NW Washington, DC 20009

4. 1352 Bradley DR Harrisonburg, VA 22801

5. 5037 Connecticut AVE NW Washington, DC 20008

6. PO Box 7703 Mc Lean, VA 22106-7703

7. Dearborn ST Mc Lean, VA 22106

8. 148 W Wolfe ST Harrisonburg, VA 22802-3815

9. 1404 P ST NW WASHINGTON DC Washington, DC 20005

10. 1117 Randolph RD Mc Lean, VA 22101-2930

11. 3334 N ST NW Washington, DC 20007-2807

12. 455 Massachusetts AVE NW Washington, DC 20001

13. 749 Chain Bridge RD Mc Lean, VA 22101-1813

14. 2022 Columbia RD NW #602 Washington, DC 20009-1303

15. 145 E 48th ST #29F New York, NY 10017-1255


The Juggernaut's picture

There is NO need for the CIA.  They’re the Corporatists’ Idiot Agency.  They spy for the Petro Dollar.


"Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations-entangling alliances with none."  - Thomas Jefferson

bamawatson's picture

SEARCHING GOOGLE MAPS WITH THE PROPERTY LIST,+DC+20005/@38.9096765,-77.0324148,3a,75y,179.21h,88.82t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sahPgVbmwYSKUhKU5PUvREA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0x4e2a8da390efb0be!6m1!1e1,+McLean,+VA+22101,+USA/@38.937849,-77.132461,96m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m13!1m7!3m6!1s0x89b7ca761db2fa7b:0x3921c7d35a0f6c4e!2s749+Chain+Bridge+Rd,+McLean,+VA+22101,+USA!3b1!8m2!3d38.937755!4d-77.132211!3m4!1s0x89b7ca761db2fa7b:0x3921c7d35a0f6c4e!8m2!3d38.937755!4d-77.132211

two places that just looked sus to me ^^^

THEN I SEARCHED NO.14........................,+DC+20009-1303/@38.9172438,-77.0459304,3a,75y,101.9h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sequoFtYvgYjnr0KCqRZaeg!2e0!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0xd97ed9b50f8a6769?sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi5y8jLv_LQAhVbd1AKHZb9CWwQxB0IGjAA

"2022 Columbia Road, NW #602, Washington, DC 20009 - AppFolio Two bedroom, two bath and a den near DuPont Circle, Adams Morgan and the U street corridor. Unit has a washer and dryer, wine fridge, parking space ..."""


Could imply an intelligence link. If Alefantis is running a pedo ring for CIA it would explain his power and the united elite opposition to pizzagate as well as his casualness about the whole affair. He knows he's protected. I remember someone on 8chan suggesting that the David Flinstone guy is also CIA. There's also a lot of suspicion that Epstein is Mossad. The "dirty tricks" wings of intelligence agencies use blackmail to exert influence.

Jim Fetzer has just come out in support of pizzagate which is another ominous sign. He's the disinformation specialist who claimed the Zapruder tape was fake and tried to discredit Steven Jones' work on explosives in the twin towers. He attaches himself to conspiracy movements and pushes obviously fake theories.



Whoa Dammit's picture

If anyone really wants to call them out and shut them up, just ask the simple question: How does that Afgani heroin make its way to the U.S?

Mr. Universe's picture

Part of the whole problem is how these people operate with impunity. From Obama on down the Constitution means nothing to them. Power is everything and the key is knowledge. Whether it be manufactured, spun or omitted. An example, say you are an up and coming pol, (Marco Rubio comes to mind) do you ever wonder what other pix they have of him? He was an easy mark, but any are fair game. Slip a spiked drink to a straight arrow and he wakes up in a strange hotel room surrounded by the pictures of the events of last night. They of course include "children" so they own this guy for life.

WordSmith2013's picture


The CIA Says They Did NOT TELL The WASHINGTON POST That “Russia Hacked Election In Favor Of Trump”!
bamawatson's picture
Follow the Money: Transformer INC (Alefantis' small Art Gallery) Brings in $530k as a nonprofit. (2015)
pig sty
follow the money PODESTAgate follow the podestas


For Ages We Shall Reign's picture

Obviously this can only mean that Jeremy Scahill is carrying water for the Kremlin and The Intercept is a Russian Propaganda rag.

*wrings hands*

bamawatson's picture

can't believe this is still up  !!!!!!


****ahahhahahaha "Restaurateur" ahahahaha

Luc X. Ifer's picture

... and do Americans now realize that indeed the system is the true enemy of the 99% serf working solely to protect and promote the interests of the 1% neofeudal aristocracy?!

skeelos's picture

Wut? Where my Obama phone at?

HowdyDoody's picture

The NSA data warehouse in Utah isn't big enough to record all the crimes the CIA has committed against the Constitution and humanity.

The CIA is unadulterated evil. The token 'good guys' who actually interpret intelligence are an exception. But they are compromised by the US reliance of tecnology to 'sweep it all up' and filter out important material. Real intelligence outfits use in-place people to produce actionable intelligence from the start. The US is 'garbage in, garbage out'.

Yog Soggoth's picture

I think they had better get an official spokesman to say this in public at this point. Why wait so long?

BennyBoy's picture


Russia hacking the election is FAKE NEWS.

glenlloyd's picture

But officer, the Russians hacked my car and made me drive 100 mph!

This attempt to cast doubt on the election results is just hogwash. No one with an ounce of common sense is going to believe any of this shit, it's just a case of sore loser snowflakes trying to pull a US agency with zero credibility into the fray with pseudo-evidence of Russia 'hacking' the election.

Which brings up another point, how exactly did Russia influence the election? Votes are cast and then counted. There was zero evidence of tampering or hacking with election machines and MI is a complete paper ballot state so tell me how it happened there. Just because those clowns believed that in WI counties with paper ballots that HRC got 7% fewer votes is not a reason to believe that in those states with voting machines there was hacking. In fact if someone really wanted to figure things out they'd go look at ownership of the machines in those counties and it would not surprise me that there were connections to Clinton and / or Soros.

Jill Stein was shown to not have legitimate standing to contest the results anyway, didn't PA reject her request because of that? Because she didn't have standing and because there was zero evidence of fraud.

When you put up a candidate as worthless as HRC this is what you get, and all the little snowflakes better get used to it because the Dems hold the least amount of power in decades, and don't count on gaining much ground, there's nothing new in Dem town.

Crash Overide's picture

End the FED

End the IRS

End the CIA

End the war on drugs

Reduce Federal Government by 50%

That would be a good start.

WordSmith2013's picture

Here comes Electorgate!  After the fake news that "the Russians are coming!"



ELECTORGATE: Was the anti-Trump elector blackmailed? Or bribed? Or both?
wildbad's picture

they killed JFK
they killied RFK
they kill for the same evil forces we are now confronting on all fronts.
it was probably the FBI that killed MLK

- JFK wanted to abolish them

- RFK wanted to do the same

- MLK was fundamentally opposed to that type of power.

there were at least 9 CIA agents at the hotel the night RFK was shot in the back of the head despite having Sirhan Sirhan standing in front of him and there being vary many more shots than were fired from Sirhan's gun.

Of course JFK wanted to end the Fed too

choose your target but end them both

RiverRoad's picture

They also killed Allende.  And SOMEBODY offed JFK, Jr. so Hillary could run for New York Senator.....

In Ze No's picture

The fog was as thick as pea soup that night and he was not yet instrument only licensed.  I looked down on that wedding's tent set up for the beach wedding he was supposed to attend as we drove home and then our babysitting in laws met us at the door with the news.  Hyannis was in a state of shock.  The fact he didn't have the accreditation to pilot for that flight alone was pretty widely discussed in the Cape  Cod Times and around Hyannis without any apparent dissent.

RiverRoad's picture

Am a long-time boater in the Cape Cod area.  The fog there is extemely common that time of year.  That fact and the Kennedy proclivity for unilateral (piloting) actions segued nicely with his sudden disappearance (7/16/1999) from the political scene, taking "George" along with him and greasing the now slam-dunk path for Hillary's New York Senatorial run.....(elected 11/11/2000.)

  BTW Cape Cod was never in the habit of dissenting about anything the Kennedys did, Chappaquiddick included.

ThanksChump's picture

There weren't 50 million angry armed patriots just itching for any excuse when JFK, RFK, MLK et al were assassinated.


It's different this time.

RiverRoad's picture

Very true.  The CIA's as well as the Clinton's covert "droning" actions are general knowledge now.  If anything "happens" to Trump, there will be blowback. 

BennyBoy's picture


How many countries have had their elections FIXED by the CIA?

How many democratically elected gov have been overthrown by the CIA?

Delphi_Addiction's picture

Agreed. They're just projecting, like people do when their souls are black.

Take, Christopher Suprun, for example.

Antifaschistische's picture

End the...

- Department of Labor

- Department of Education

- Somehow destroy the corrupt legal system designed to enrich lawyers at the expense of EVERYONE else that order.  Give companies the ability to hire and fire without .gov oversight.

AViewFromDublin's picture

Jim Fetzer has just come out in support of pizzagate which is another ominous sign. He's the disinformation specialist who claimed the Zapruder tape was fake and tried to discredit Steven Jones' work on explosives in the twin towers. He attaches himself to conspiracy movements and pushes obviously fake theories.

You do know your stuff - fair play. Jim Fetzer was promulgating the conspiracy theory that Paul McCartney died in 1966 and was replaced with an imposter. He also writes for the sketchy website Veterans Today which was anti Trump and pro Hillary . That website mixes lots of falsehoods and fiction with factual data ie. classic disinformation.

The thing is that Jim Fetzer used to be a genuine truth seeking anti establishment hack but now he is totally bought and paid for.

musimann's picture

Yea he has lost all credibility. This is how they destroy 9/11 truth movements. Actually any movement that opposes their world. He had some big falling out with Duff over at VT a while back and now he's back over there with the fat little over medicated lab test rat (Gordon Duff). Duff is a rabid republican hating democrat advocating Clinton over Trump. And he's suppose to be an "intelligence" expert.

musimann's picture

I think that makes Duff a "low information" intelligence expert.

The Wizard's picture

Propaganda and Disinformation:
How the CIA Manufactures History

By Victor Marchetti

In the eyes of posterity it will inevitably seem that, in safeguarding our freedom, we destroyed it. The vast clandestine apparatus we built up to prove our enemies' resources and intentions only served in the end to confuse our own purposes; that practice of deceiving others for the good of the state led infallibly to our deceiving ourselves; and that vast army of clandestine personnel built up to execute these purposes were soon caught up in the web of their own sick fantasies, with disastrous consequences for them and us.

-- Malcom Muggeridge, May 1966       


How Covert Agents Infiltrate the Internet to Manipulate, Deceive, and Destroy Reputations

Glenn Greenwald
February 24 2014, 6:25 p.m.

One of the many pressing stories that remains to be told from the Snowden archive is how western intelligence agencies are attempting to manipulate and control online discourse with extreme tactics of deception and reputation-destruction. It’s time to tell a chunk of that story, complete with the relevant documents.

Over the last several weeks, I worked with NBC News to publish a series of articles about “dirty trick” tactics used by GCHQ’s previously secret unit, JTRIG (Joint Threat Research Intelligence Group). These were based on four classified GCHQ documents presented to the NSA and the other three partners in the English-speaking “Five Eyes” alliance. Today, we at the Intercept are publishing another new JTRIG document, in full, entitled “The Art of Deception: Training for Online Covert Operations.”

Keyser's picture

Pretty hard to deny that Paul McCartney died in 1966 when Ringo Starr himself corroborates the story... The same year that Billy Shears simply disappeared from the face of the earth... 

AViewFromDublin's picture

C;mon Keyser!...Ringo Starr was being entirely facetious ffs :) I'm a Beatle nut and love a good conspiracy but I can tell you now that conspiracy is a load of baloney.


fbazzrea's picture

yep... saw Paul two nights in a row at the Capital Centre in Landover, MD in 1976. he was touring with Linda. i KNOW that Paul. no way anyone could impersonate him to that degree. if so, they'd be... well, Paul McCartney. (:

swmnguy's picture

The Ringo story originated on a satirical website, and was then made viral by other extremely silly websites.  The media outlet to which Ringo supposedly made the confirmation doesn't exist and has never existed.

Hook, Line, Sinker...

HowdyDoody's picture

It is a classic case of fantasy winning over reality because people want to believe irrespective of evidence and the implications of such events being true.

bamawatson's picture

hell, first time i heard of Brock, he was big time right wing conservative constitutionalist 

ALL of em are whores; like clinton toe-sucker guy who then turned feaux conservative

WillyGroper's picture

i thot fetzer was barking mad on the paul mcartney thing until i did some more digging.

PM is a corporation.  look at the vids of heather (muzzled) when she said she'd been deceived. 

brown eyes don't turn blue, even with contacts.

linda eastman's (allegedly kodak fame) real name is/was epstein.

it's rather peculiar, she chose to die in Tuscon, AZ.  guess who else lived there?  her 1st hubby, who just happened to off himself a few years after her death.

Her father, Leopold Vail Epstein, was born in 1910 to Jewish Russian immigrants.

So, eastman kodak...or entertainment attorney? 

there was a holelotta info in the tree marked "private" when i first started diggin that's gone now.

"Get Back" to where you once belonged.  anthropologist?

janus's picture

yeah, no fixed opinion on Fetzer -- hard to say one way or another -- however, there is no doubt whatsoever that the Zapruter film was tampered with.  in the first few frames it changes from a single motorcycle to a phalanx of SS cars in an awkward paste-up.  the exit wound explosion on kennedy was more than odd...bullets don't do that to a skull, unless they're ballistic rounds (not even a hollow point will do that), and you wouldn't use ballistic rounds or hollow points for something like this where accuracy is paramount.  i've thought the Dealey thing through and still haven't a clue.  on the one hand, it's clear kennedy was shot (there's obviously blood streaming down his lapel); but on the other hand, there are many, many missing pieces and odd circumstances. 

no discernible blood from oswald...yes, i know he was wearing a dark sweater, but, still, a gut shot spews rivers of blood.  it would be everywhere.

i don't think the texas governer (can't remember his name off hand) was shot...terrible job acting in his hospital suite.

i think the whole thing -- top to bottom -- was designed to obfuscate and occlude every investigative's clear to me that the dominate conspiracy was baked into the cake; and so, it's hard to know what motive(s) were at play...truly, a mystery wrapped in an enigma.

have to say it was a masterful conspiracy...true genius in its malevolence.


WillyGroper's picture

have a look see...another hollyweird production.

see that microphone upper right? 

all pol stations in the early 60's must have had that setup for immediate transmission to the press.


we've had virtual reality so long it's unbelievable.

look at the size of that right hand compared to the left.

janus's picture

WG, it's been going on from the beginning; and for the last 150 years or so in earnest...anything they can get away with in terms of deception is done, and sometimes for the express purpose of deception itself.  There's a profound psychological/spiritual dynamic at play -- you synthesize 'truth' for-to own the truth of perception -- and in concentrating the actual facts in a tight sphere of 'those in the know', and deceiving as many as possible outside that orb, the power of the synthetic 'truth' is magnified by orders of magnitude.  Hell, manson was totally faked...sent to sabotage the sixties counter-culture...the Dead were all agents, not just contract...the sixties shit was all contrived, crafted to erode the country's morals -- they got concerned when those hippies started taking morality seriously.  Dinosaurs are's all fake...and that's the rub -- it has to be for the system to work.  it's predicated on deception, the bigger the better.  Deception is what makes this ancient paradigm function.  Often times one does understand and sympathize with tptb's scheme; i mean, the people are dupes through and through, and provided tptb were moral custodians of the people, i'd keep my mouth shut and go about my business.  but, tptb are wicked the their very core.  they must be stopped.  i'm willing to die for this struggle, and have made that clear from the beginning.  but now i've got too much wouldn't be so easy to off janus as it would'a maybe 5 years or so ago.

Anyway, they basically play on people's vanity.  The average schmuck convinces himself that he's too keen and clever to fall for a ruse; little does he know that he's being encouraged to rest on that boastful presumption.  Well-satisfied credulity is key to its operation.  I have to hand it to them...they have much of the intelligencia convinced that God doesn't small feat.  And, really, that's what this is all about -- monopolizing spiritual power -- which sounds totally bonkers to the average with-it and street-wise schmuck out there, again, precisely the point.  If there's any harmony to all this perfidy it tends to a single deduction: they seek to occlude God Almighty and in so doing assume His channel the very worship thereof to themselves.  Now, i'm not saying people should go to church...far from it.  Churches do the same thing.  Jesus, however, points you in the right direction.

His Kingdom come/

His will be done/

on earth as it is in Heaven.

Merry Christmas, my brother.


WillyGroper's picture

cannot disagree with one word.

Matthew 10:26

their exposure is gaining momentum.

a very Merry Christmas to you and yours. 

right along with polishing up that spiritual armor...may peace and Grace be bestowed upon us all.

WillyGroper's picture

my swag is someone from the same gene pool.

notice the teeth.

compared to these chompers.

didn't have invisalign yet.  how could he upset the goils raving over his cutieness with braces?

toofs, chin & eyebrow arch do not match.

#11 cuspid worn with age?  longer chin than young paul.

whatever the reason, definitely a doppleganger.

SixIsNinE's picture

yes, the Heather videos are important - in that she says clearly there is something that she can't say (muzzled for money) that is Earth-Beatle Shattering.

that being said, I've seen Paul in concert back in 2002 or so and I loved the show - excellent performance. 

We do know Brian Epstein died. 


Yog Soggoth's picture

George Harrison said that. He ought to know.

decon's picture

I don't know if this pizzagate stuff is accurate but it strikes me as the kind of thing CIA would do to lure in officials, get dirt on them and then turn them into operatives with the blackmail angle. 

The ramping of CIA allegations about Russian involvement also sounds like a ploy to compel the leakers to make a move that would expose them.