More Detroit Voting "Irregularities": 95 Poll Books "Missing" For Days; 5 Still Nowhere To Be Found

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Last night we noted that Team Hillary, which was supportive of Jill Stein's recount efforts, should be careful what they wish for.  New data released yesterday revealed that voting machines in 37% of all Detroit precincts, which skew heavily democratic, registered more votes than they had of actual voters showing up at the polls.  The scale of the "voting irregularities" discovered prompted an automatic vote audit by the Michigan Secretary of State, Ruth Johnson.

Today, we learn from the Detroit News, to our "complete surprise," that the "voting irregularity" rabbit hole in Detroit is a bit deeper than initially thought.  According to a memo penned by Wayne County election officials, 95 of the 662 precincts in Wayne County waited several days before delivering their poll books to canvassers and 5 of those poll books are still "missing" even today.

Detroit elections officials waited several days to deliver nearly 100 poll books to Wayne County officials charged with certifying the presidential election, newly released documents show.


County clerk officials on Thursday released a memo to State Elections Director Chris Thomas that said 95 poll books from the 662 precincts weren’t available at the start of the canvass, which began the day after the Nov. 8 election. Five of those poll books, which contain the names of voters and ensure the integrity of elections, were never delivered to county canvassers and presumably remain missing.


The revelation comes atop other irregularities that have prompted a state audit. Among other issues, The Detroit News reported this week that voting machines registered more votes than they should have in one-third of all city precincts.


“I’m not happy with how Detroit handled this election at all,” said Krista Hartounian, chairwoman of the Wayne County Board of Canvassers, which certified the election.


“We had been seeing improvement, but this one was different. This one was off.”



Meanwhile, many of the precincts that actually did deliver their poll books in a timely fashion breached official state laws by either not delivering them in sealed envelopes and/or omitting "seal numbers from ballot boxes."

Hartounian said Detroit officials were still delivering poll books to canvassers on the Friday and Saturday after the Tuesday election. By law, the canvassers have 14 days to certify general elections.


“The canvass was extremely pressed for time,” Hartounian said. “There was so much pressure. It was so tight, and Detroit was still delivering information until the very end.”


The memo from county elections official Jennifer Redmond to the state also shows poll books in 101 Detroit precincts were not delivered in sealed envelopes, as the law requires.


Separate county documents obtained by The News show that poll books in 17 precincts were missing seal numbers from ballot boxes, as is required by state law.

Of course, given that democrats are suddenly hyper-focused on election integrity, we're certain we'll hear from Obama, Josh Earnest and/or John Podesta on this egregious example of mass voter fraud, in a heavily democratic county, anytime now.

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For those who missed it, here is what we wrote yesterday.

Team Hillary, which was supportive of Jill Stein's recount efforts, should be careful what they wish for.  New data from Michigan's State Elections Director Chris Thomas, reveals that voting machines in 37% of all Detroit precincts registered more votes than they had of actual voters showing up at the polls.  The scale of the "voting irregularities" has prompted an automatic vote audit by the Michigan Secretary of State, Ruth Johnson.  Per the Detroit News:

Voting machines in more than one-third of all Detroit precincts registered more votes than they should have during last month’s presidential election, according to Wayne County records prepared at the request of The Detroit News.


Detailed reports from the office of Wayne County Clerk Cathy Garrett show optical scanners at 248 of the city’s 662 precincts, or 37 percent, tabulated more ballots than the number of voters tallied by workers in the poll books. Voting irregularities in Detroit have spurred plans for an audit by Michigan Secretary of State Ruth Johnson’s office, Elections Director Chris Thomas said Monday.

And wouldn't you know it, Wayne County, home of Detroit, just happens to be one of the very few counties that Hillary "won" in the state of Michigan.



And with 115% of all votes counted, Hillary won the county by a substantial margin of over 37 points.



Apparently the discrepancies were found as result of Jill Stein's recount efforts which began but were subsequently shut down by a federal court.  Per Michigan state law, recounts are not allowed to proceed in "unbalanced" precincts where the number of ballots don't tie out to the number of voters.  In the city of Detroit alone, 60% of the precincts were found to be "unbalanced" with two-thirds of those having "too many votes."

Overall, state records show 10.6 percent of the precincts in the 22 counties that began the retabulation process couldn’t be recounted because of state law that bars recounts for unbalanced precincts or ones with broken seals.


The problems were the worst in Detroit, where discrepancies meant officials couldn’t recount votes in 392 precincts, or nearly 60 percent. And two-thirds of those precincts had too many votes.


“There’s always going to be small problems to some degree, but we didn’t expect the degree of problem we saw in Detroit. This isn’t normal,” said Krista Haroutunian, chairwoman of the Wayne County Board of Canvassers.


State officials are planning to examine about 20 Detroit precincts where ballot boxes opened during the recount had fewer ballots than poll workers had recorded on Election Day.


“We’re assuming there were (human) errors, and we will have discussions with Detroit election officials and staff in addition to reviewing the ballots,” Thomas said.

While the level of the problem is currently unknown, Republican state senators called out 1 precinct specifically that counted 306 votes but only had 50 official ballots.

Republican state senators last week called for an investigation in Wayne County, including one precinct where a Detroit ballot box contained only 50 of the 306 ballots listed in a poll book, according to an observer for Trump.


It’s unclear how many votes were added in Detroit. That’s because county officials have not tabulated how much the ballots were off in precincts with discrepancies of at least five votes.


Of the data available, though, machines tallied at least 388 more ballots, according to a Detroit News analysis of the records. That’s 0.16 percent of the 248,000 ballots cast in the city that voted for Clinton 95 percent to 3 percent over Trump.

We're still awaiting official confirmation that the Russians stole these physical ballots from heavily democratic Michigan precincts in an effort to disrupt the recount process...stay tuned.

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WernerHeisenberg's picture

They were stashed under the birth certificate of the bastard son of Frank Marshall Davis

nmewn's picture

95% for Hillary in the precincts in question, broken seals on ballot boxes, more ballots than people who signed the voting rolls...ya know, just your classic

Broken seals implies "government officials" by the way.

Jus sayin, I'm feelin another schadenboner coming on here ;-)

bobbbny's picture

Got to be the Russians.

nmewn's picture

Gotta be.

And while we're on the subject of interference with "our democracy" Robert Creamer or Scott Foval been arrested yet? Has Debbie Wassername-Schultz or Donna Brazzile? 

Those are PROVABLE interferences.

(Sigh) ;-)



Confirmed schadenboner #2,107!

The wealthy Democrats who helped pump over $1 billion into Hillary Clinton’s losing effort want answers.

"The call for a deep and detailed accounting of how Clinton lost a race that she andher donors were absolutely certain she’d win didn’t begin immediately after the election — there was too much shock over her defeat by Donald Trump, and overwhelming grief."

Oh yes...theres definitely a skin splitting major erection here! Look at the size of this thing...

"But in the weeks since, the wealthy Democrats who helped pump over $1 billion into Clinton’s losing effort have been urging their local finance staffers, state party officials, and campaign aides to provide a more thorough explanation of what went wrong. With no dispassionate, centralized analysis of how Clinton failed so spectacularly, they insist, how can they be expected to keep contributing to the party?"

...I mean...OVER ONE BILLION a yuge, vein popping amount of money for such a "historic" yet inevitably deflating "coronation" of results at the end ;-)

Tarzan's picture

Jill has been told to sit down and shut up! 

They don't want to reveal that hillary's popular vote win by "2.8 million" votes was also "FAKE NEWS".

Herodotus's picture

Dem mofo Ruskies done gone and stole our poll books.

StychoKiller's picture

[quote] "...Detroit was still delivering information until the very end.” [/quote]

Yowza Massa, Toby be shufflin's his feet as fast he can and totin' dem ballut boxez! 

Meh, Black folk wonder why there's STILL so many stereotypes re: their behavior.  Question is, how to take all of the defrauding points out of the System.

1.  Each ballot gets a unique number printed on it, capable of being scanned in by the counting machine.  If that unique number shows up more than once, kick out ALL ballots with that number and flag them as a possible fraud.

2. The counting machine has a password-protected ethernet connection to the central gathering point of all voting district counts, with the password known only to one election official.  When the password is given, the counting machine sends out all of the vote counts and WHO they're for, with a unique number assigned to each candidate, which is not known by the election official, so there's no way to juggle the counts for a certain candidate.

3.  This crap is solvable, but it CANNOT be left in the hands of a private Corp. buried inside proprietary software.  Come on all ye Programmers, get with it, and come up with the necessary open-source code, capable of executing the protocols necessary to count the votes, yet not reveal them to unauthorized personnel!


oncefired's picture

What ever happened to blaming George Bush. They used that one for 8 years, should still be able to get a bit more mileage out of it!

chunga's picture

It would be awesome if Jill Stein's recount efforts resulted in hard time for a batch of cronies.

nmewn's picture

It will be interesting to see who Trump appoints to the FEC...I nominate chunga ;-)

chunga's picture

Wow that would be quite the responsibilty. If those resources reported to me I'd like to think I'd find out what laws were broken and straighten that out real quick. For the checks and balances concept to work the sheeple are supposed to play a part and right now there are plenty of reasons to believe that's in serious question. Without that vert important piece, righting the ship seems pretty impossible.

HRH Feant's picture
HRH Feant (not verified) nmewn Dec 15, 2016 8:35 PM

Schadenfreude, don't you just love it?

The Demorats thought they could get away with theft. They still think they can steal the election! Did you see Pelosi's spawn on FOX Business today? Between Cavuto (yesterday) and Charles Payne (today) you think this woman would have some humility: she has none. She actually thinks she is going to win! Those interviews will live on, in infamy, for the rest of the Internet, thank god!

oldmanofthesee's picture

Now, it is clear, why the Dem judge, who ordered the recount to proceed, ordered it stopped.

onewayticket2's picture

I already saw this story...on CNN, ABC, NBC, in the NYT and WaPo.....



Jacksons Ghost's picture

Article says 388 over votes. Nothing really to the story. O.16 out of 248k. Details show this to be almost statistically insignificant. I voted for Trump before you thumb me.  The details of the story don't match the hysteria.

Jim in MN's picture

Not quite.  The initial count of 'at least' 388 was done by the Detroit News themselves.  This is as stated because the state just listed precincts as being off by 1, 2, 3, 4 or '5 or more' votes.  So they just talled the 5+ as JUST 5 to be conservative--hence the 'at least'.  IIRC there were 65 precincts in the 5+ error category.  Then we have the additional detail that for just one of these 65, there were 306 votes when there should only have been 50.  That's a sixfold 'padding', or to be gentle, 256 votes.

So, to ballpark, we could just multiply 250 times 65 and get.....16,250. WOW, that's pretty close to the statewide margin isn't it.

Or, we could wonder if other precincts just might have more than 50 votes to begin with, and maybe have more 'padding'.  Or, conversely, if the precinct picked out as the bad apple example is an extreme, in which case there might be less.  Or, if the other precincts are bigger but padded somewhat less, maybe it nets out back at 15,000 give or take.

Point being, maybe let an investigation determine what we're looking at here.

Jim in MN's picture

PS I upvoted you because it's a fair point at first read. 


BrownCoat's picture

"Point being, maybe let an investigation determine what we're looking at here."

Good idea. It will never happen. 
I'd like to see a recount in say Chicago.
Is there ANY government entity that is not tarnished by corruption and incompetence? It seems like shinanigans go on at all levels (national, state and local). If Propaganda News (MSM) told us the real story, we'd be overwhelmed!

StychoKiller's picture

Ain'tcha glad you live in Minnesota instead of Michigan? (but ya gotta wonder how come Decepticrats keep winning here in Minnesota as well...)

nmewn's picture

So I guess you are saying voter fraud doesn't matter unless its statistically significant. The problem is the fraudulent votes cancel out the legitimate votes. 

The other issue is the broken seals, that was done by "government officials" (volunteers or paid by all tax payers to oversee the fairness of the election) not some wino that Hillary supporters hired by the likes of a Robert Creamer or Scott Foval off the street. 

mofreedom's picture

Dems are drunk folks trying to forget they like touching children.

Reality exists for them only in a pill and a glass.


3Wishes's picture

Photocopied by the same team of monkeys that have just learned how to count, One bannana for me, two Bannana for me .

Badsamm's picture

It would seem easy enough to go around and arrest all those "officials" until people start answering questions to the FBI

hannah's picture

....and clinton still lost...! they cheated and still lost. how can the left own the gov, control the ballot box, cheat at will...AND STILL LOSE.....hahahahahahahaha. what a bunch of pathetic shits.

LetThemEatRand's picture

Don't worry everyone.  Hillary and the MSM are looking into this to make sure our election was valid.  

Speaking of which, Jill Stein uncovered this with her recount.  Maybe what she did wasn't so bad.

malek's picture

The only thing good about it is that Jill Stein has completely exposed herself as being a democrap shill, just like Elizabeth Warren before her.

LetThemEatRand's picture

You could be right, but the other possibility is that she really did want to expose voter fraud.  Based upon these results in Michigan, I question if Obama really won Michigan in 2008/2012, and we now have proof to back up our questioning of that.


SoDamnMad's picture

Oh, "what she did wasn't so bad." Like we should send her more money (for her vacation home so it is better than Bernie's)  NOT  sarc/

Boomberg's picture

"Team Stein, which was supportive of Hillary Clinton's recount efforts, should be careful what they wish for. "

Fixed it for ya.

LetThemEatRand's picture

I'm not so sure that Hillary was behind the recount.  Hillary knew what would be uncovered, and she hardly went balls out in supporting it.  She had to suggest some support to give plausible deniability to the recount uncovering voter fraud in her favor.

BrownCoat's picture

Hillary has yet to be held accountable for any of her shady activities. Why would vote fraud be any different?! 
She supports *any* activity that will get her elected. Rules, integrity, laws do not apply to her. 

GCT's picture


I am inclined to agree with you except the recounts are only happening in the states Hillary thought she had in the bag.  The other states denied her wishes and most likely they too may have had even greater problems and we cannot have the Dem voter fraud out there now can we?

The real problem is the Dems thought they had the Rust Belt in the bag.  Just a little bit of voter fraud was all they thought they would have needed to turn the state blue.  The problem is voters turned out in record numbers voting for Trump.

Her annoiting in 2012 went to her head.  Hillary was even worse after the Dems rigged the primaries against Bernie.  Exit poll after exit poll clearly showed Bernie taking many states but the rigging stopped Bernie in his tracks.  Buying him off was the only solution and Bernie took the home, the money and ran.  Now he is again independent  LOL!  Smuck!!!

goldandsilverguy's picture

Why is anyone surprised?  After all, this is a city that can't even keep working street lights.

buzzsaw99's picture

vote early and often has been the democrat motto for decades

Great Deceivah's picture

what can anyone expect from a city populated by low IQ monkeys?

ghengis86's picture

Not just populated, but run by them too. Right into the fucking ground, ruining what civilized humans had built. Shame. That city still has a special place for me, but lord knows I would never move back.

SoDamnMad's picture

 Never mind that Guyana requires ID + proof of citizenship + an address check.  Guyanans can't be racist because they aren't white.

Vonhoff5's picture

Voter ID should be on Trump's agenda

Illegal's picture

Term limits and allow states to have voter ID laws. No more bs excuses!
Here is a video on biometric voting in Ghana. Now if this 3rd WC can do this wtf is wrong with the idiots in the US.

BrownCoat's picture

Term limits. ROTFL
Do you really think a politician will vote term limits on themselves?

The only term limits, which BTW have already been imposed, is by the IRS on consultants. 

Great Deceivah's picture

what can anyone expect from a city populated by low IQ monkeys?

Deetroit is basically an third world African Slum City in America