Big Lies Repeated

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Submitted by Brian Cloughley via,

The Nazi propagandist Josef Goebbels is generally thought to have said that «If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it». In fact, he didn’t state that, exactly, but based his propaganda largely on the premise that «credibility alone must determine whether propaganda output should be true or false». What he did say, however, was «the English follow the principle that when one lies, one should lie big, and stick to it. They keep up their lies, even at the risk of looking ridiculous».

Not much has changed on the propaganda front in seventy-five years, and the evil Goebbels would feel at ease with modern developments as regards the Western Establishment’s campaign against President Putin and soon-to-be President Trump.

On December 16 the newspaper USA Today reported that «President-elect Donald Trump’s controversial soft spot for Russia is based on decades of courting wealthy Russians to buy condos in his luxury high-rises and invest in his other real estate ventures». This line of attack is intriguing because the high-circulation USA Today is owned by the Gannett Company, which «in 2010 increased executive salaries and bonuses... Bob Dickey, Gannett’s US newspapers division president, was paid $3.4 million in 2010, up from $1.9 million the previous year. The next year, the company laid off 700 U.S. employees to cut costs». No luxury high-rises for Gannett employees, then, unless they are in the top echelon.

In Britain the Guardian, usually an even-handed and objective source of news and comment, went with the flow of anti-Russia overkill and produced a report that began «Alarm over the rise of Donald Trump reached a new pitch early this week as officials in Washington worried that the United States has elected a leader who may be uniquely blind to threats posed by Russia». It did not mention what the threats might be, but did have the honesty to end with the words of President Putin that «as I have repeatedly said, it’s not our fault that Russian-American relations are in such a poor state. But Russia wants and is ready to restore fully fledged relations with the United States».

Of course, Russia wants to have good relations with other countries. Such a sensible approach results in commercial benefit and social harmony rather than disharmony and confrontation. But in the period when Russia was trying to rebuild from the dire days of Soviet ideology the West expanded the US-NATO military alliance to 28 countries from 16, and recently deployed US-NATO forward tactical headquarters, thousands of troops, and flights of combat and intelligence-gathering aircraft to countries on Russia’s borders. As I noted a couple of weeks ago, «In Bulgaria, Estonia, Hungary, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Romania and Slovakia the Alliance has established ‘NATO Force Integration Units’ which are advanced military headquarters whose Mission is ‘to improve cooperation and coordination between NATO and national forces, and prepare and support exercises and any deployments needed’».

Then some nations became agitated when Russia deployed defensive weapons within its own territory in order to counter the US-NATO movement of armed forces up to is borders.

As reported by Britain’s ultra-right Daily Telegraph, owned by the creepy twin Barclay brothers who own London’s Ritz Hotel and many luxury high-rises (and hate the European Union, while living in the haven of tax-relaxed Monaco), NATO «described Moscow’s decision to send state-of-the-art Bastion missile-launchers to Kaliningrad, which borders Nato members Poland and Lithuania, as ‘aggressive military posturing’». There was no mention made of President Putin’s explanation that Russia considered it important to take countermeasures against NATO’s expansion and «aim our missile systems at those facilities which we think pose a threat to us».

As observed by Goebbels, the English propagandists «keep up their lies, even at the risk of looking ridiculous».

Consistent with the Goebbels line of sticking to skewed presentation, Britain’s defence minister, Michael Fallon, a public figure of mixed repute (he is known for alcoholic capers and was found guilty of drunken driving as well as having swindled the Parliamentary expenses system out of thousands of pounds over many years), was reported by Reuters as declaring that the West had «to be strong against Russian aggression towards NATO... Russia is a strategic competitor to us in the West and we have to understand that».

Fortunately, there are sounder and better informed people than the drunken fiddler Fallon, and one of these is the specialist Peter Duncan of University College London whose more sober opinion is that «there is no reason for Russia to want to threaten the sovereignty of the Baltic states in the sense of trying to force them to leave NATO or still less to invade them... the Russian economy depends on a prosperous Western European economy».

The Far-Right Western media ignored Professor Duncan’s balanced summation, just as it disregarded President Putin’s own assurance, given in a little-reported interview with Italy’s Il Corriere della Sera, that «I think that only an insane person and only in a dream can imagine that Russia would suddenly attack NATO».

But it’s lies that matter when false dogma is being spread. The US-NATO military alliance doesn’t really believe that Russia is preparing to attack the Baltic States and on December 16 President Obama even informed the world media that in his opinion Russia is «a small country, they're a weak country» which tends to contradict the propaganda line that Russia is a large country, a «strategic competitor» straining at the leash to invade the Baltic States and create mayhem around the world.

The fact that the US spends 596 billion dollars annually on armaments against Russia’s 66 billion is rarely mentioned (NATO as a whole spends 860 billion) except in reputable journals such as The Economist which on December 17, however, chose to pronounce that Mr Trump’s choice of Rex Tillerson to be Secretary of State «is disconcerting» because Mr Tillerson actually displayed «opposition to the sanctions imposed on Russia».

The Western propaganda line is that everything Russia does is reprehensible to the point of evil, and that any westerner attempting to propose dialogue rather than confrontation is «disconcerting» at best, and in the eyes of the tabloid papers a raving traitor to the values of the plutocrats who own them.

The policies and aspirations of President Putin are being presented by the US-NATO military alliance as contrary to the interests of the Western powers, but no attention has been paid to such as Bill Clinton’s deputy secretary of state, the Russia specialist, Strobe Talbott, who stated the obvious when he observed that President Putin «basically wants to make Russia great again». And he won’t do that by invading the Baltic States or any other country, as he and the West well know. It’s about time the Big Lies were laid to rest.

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jamesmmu's picture

Hillary Clinton just ended up on a list she, most certainly, didn’t want to be associated with.

EuroGuy's picture
EuroGuy (not verified) Arnold Dec 23, 2016 5:39 AM

Dead men tell no tales

Arnold's picture

Do not read my mind any farther.

BennyBoy's picture


The FED will promote maximum employment, stable prices and moderate long-term interest rates.

The FED will promote maximum employment, stable prices and moderate long-term interest rates.

The FED will promote maximum employment, stable prices and moderate long-term interest rates.

The FED will promote maximum employment, stable prices and moderate long-term interest rates.

The FED will promote maximum employment, stable prices and moderate long-term interest rates.

The Black Bishop's picture

Sorry, but that Goebbels "quote" is garbage. It doesnt exist except in the internet fantasy world;

LyLo's picture

Or, you know, in this piece on Churchill written by Goebbels.

But let's quote Wikipedia and some random site with twerk in the name; I'm sure that's more accurate.

refill6times's picture

When the legend becomes bigger than the truth, print the legend.


From the movie " the man who shot liberty valance "

LyLo's picture

I'm not sure what that has to do with a well known article produced by the well known publisher of the National Socialists (NSDAP, if you're interested and yes I'm a dork for even knowing this,) but okay...

Like I tell everybody else, I don't watch much teevee so I'll just take your word for it.

Salzburg1756's picture

Thanks for reminding people about this, Bishop. It is the democratically elected politicians who tell the lies with impunity. The fascists and National Socialists told the truth.

new game's picture

we believe, got to get off to that third min wage job to make ends meet.


JRobby's picture

Gannet / Scripps Howard are total garbage. Vomitus.


fbazzrea's picture

Dead men tell no tales

and dead killers kill no more.

JohnGaltUk's picture

Can't Trump just drone that bitch already

EuroGuy's picture
EuroGuy (not verified) Dec 23, 2016 5:19 AM

The Masters of LIES, Deceit and Manipulation are Zionist Jews

Mass_hysteria's picture
Mass_hysteria (not verified) EuroGuy Dec 23, 2016 5:29 AM

this goy is not dancing on flowers and listening to justin bieber..this goy doesn't listen to (((financial experts))) on cable TV....this goy knows. call me the dangerous goy, because I know the plan, and it ain't pretty.

new game's picture

godzilla goy guy at

BritBob's picture

Argentina's Falklands sovereignty claim is one of the biggest fibs of the past 180 years.


Falklands: 1833 Usurpation & UN Resolutions:

Didn't Cristina Kirchner say 'they are just squatters' and doubted that they had 'rights' when referring to the islanders?

Fireman's picture

The islands are called Las Malvinas...learn how to pronounce it. Like Ulster being a part of the Irish Republic, Las Malvinas is part of Argentina and will be reunited.

Count on it.

BabaLooey's picture

Jesus H. Christ!

Talk about fucking up a tee box............look what's above me here.....

There always will be a segment of any population that loves to be lied to.

Witness any View/Oprah/Ellen/Chew show for clues as to women. 

Politicians lie. One of the reasons Trump drew so many voters. 

Time will tell if is he is a big liar like all the others.

Soetero is a motherfucking liar.

Clinton - Hall of Fame liars - both of them.

Bush was a stupid liar.


JohnGaltUk's picture

Those Argi Bargi's are big girls blouses and cry babies. Those guys are too busy fighting each other for them to have any time left to fight the Brits again.

putaipan's picture


Allen_H's picture

You all know the drill, when they try bring it all down, its hunting time. Rip them out of their bunkers, if not we can drill and gas them, find them in their ivory towers and hang them from the balconies, the elites will pay, every one of them. Fuck them!

red_pill_rash's picture

The globalists worst nightmare is to see the US and Russia working together.

Russia and Iran are evil because they they are not under Basel control...


Arnold's picture


the Persians I have known were alright.

The rest of the trash, they don't trust either.

JRobby's picture

Basel control needs to be smashed.

Byte Me's picture

We have always been at war with Eurasia...


         Airstrip One.

General Titus's picture

"The more often a lie is repeated, the more likely the lie will become truth to the majority"

Historian Eustace Mullins


kellys_eye's picture

The article lost much cerdibility when it stated:

In Britain the Guardian, usually an even-handed and objective source of news and comment

The Grauniad is as complicit in propaganda as any mainstream rag.

stilletto2's picture

Well said. The Guardian is a left-wing propaganda rag. It only prints whats on its agenda. Sometimes it accidentally tells the truth but usually only when it fits its anti-business agenda. However it is a Hillary- loving, snowflake loving, greenpeace terrorist supporting propaganda sheet.

Also stupidly calls 'The Economist' respected when its a cia edited establishment mouthpiece.

All the dumb cia supporting mainstream trash rags follow the anti- russia line. Basically they show themselves as fake-news as soon as they start in on Russia.

WTFUD's picture

Russia have severely interrupted the NWO Agenda of Regime Change, unforgivable.

As the supplier of weapons and training to Wahhabi sponsored Terrorists the credibility of Vichy DC & vassals has been shot to pieces. I'm delighted that the knock on effect of the policies of decaying western economies means that they themselves are facing Regime Change. Sod's Law.

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LordDampNut (not verified) Dec 23, 2016 7:24 AM

Thank God, Jesus and the Mary Mother Chain, we have Trump as a persident now. He will never lie. He just doesn't know how.

Miss Expectations's picture

Here's a MAP of NATO's expansion...these days, a map is worth a thousand words:

vegas's picture

Sheeple can't handle the truth; give them "bread & circus" [EBT cards, flat screen TV's, college football, NFL, & NBA] and they will collectively be dopes forever.

Reaper's picture

Whining about fears of a bogeyman was rewarded with love/goodies by their parents. They learned projected fear was rewarded.

Rich Monk's picture

More fake news. The Jews have been lying to Christians for 2,000 asswipe!

Cloud9.5's picture

What drives the whole system is the quest for a corner office with a hot secretary and a six figure income.  The key to gaining that objective is attaching one’s star so some rising mime, a war on poverty, a war on drugs, a war on crime, a war on terror, and of course, no child left behind.  Somebody writes a book, somebody sells an agenda and the whole process starts again. Each cycle builds a new level of complexity and consumes more resources.  The process will continue right up and until the moment of collapse.

Vin's picture

Except that now that everyone knows that MSM = Fake news, and that we will never believe the MSM again, they only look ridiculous. 

refill6times's picture

Everyone knows ?

To a liberal, the MSM is heroin. They will worship it as the true guiding light.


If you want to piss a liberal off, tell them the truth.

If you want to piss off a conservitive, tell them a lie.

monad's picture

The antipope is behind all of it.

Skiprrrdog's picture

The pope is weaponized Amish...

Skiprrrdog's picture

Here are a couple of whoppers:

--Barry Obozo is really not a homosexual limo driver from Illinois

--Bill Clintons wife is as pure as the driven snow

Bopper09's picture

Right, because when someone gets a sex change, then it's normal.

BlueSceptic's picture

Thank you for describing Putin's, Trump's and the alt-right's modus operandi perfectly.

And a quick note on the military overspend - the US has a very long history of the military overpaying for crappy material (just think back to Gulf War II and the really crappy armoring of the hummers). If you want to control that, you need to take away the lobbyists.

Stop idolizing Russia, it really is unbecoming.

jorgen315's picture

You should take another look at the British papers!

***"the Guardian, usually an even-handed and objective source of news and comment"

What??? "Al Guardian" is as even-handed and objective as the BBC! It is heavily left-wing.

*** Britain’s ultra-right Daily Telegraph

Not for many years! Since 2005 or so it has been more New Labour / Cameron friendly.

Hoi Polloi's picture

To call the Guardian "evenhanded" is ridculously naïve and hopelessly misinformed. The Graudian is a long time liberal rag full of fake news. It makes heavy losses yet has plenty of cash after the sales of their auto magazine, the profits of which has been stacked away on the Cayman Islands. So the paper which always blames tax evasion evades tax themselves, the lefty hypocrites.