Another PR Fiasco For Obama: Russia, Turkey Agree On Syria Ceasefire Plan, Snub Washington

Tyler Durden's picture

In the latest snub of president Obama and the US State Department, on Wednesday Turkey and Russia reached an agreement for a ceasefire in Syria, Turkey's foreign minister said, and according to Anadolu News Agency, will aim to put it into effect by midnight. Anadolu, citing sources, said the two countries have reached a consensus that will be presented to participants in the conflict on expanding the ceasefire that was established in Aleppo earlier this month.

There may be a hurdle however: Ankara would not budge on its opposition to President Bashar al-Assad staying in power. The comments by Mevlut Cavusoglu on Wednesday appeared to signal a tentative advance in talks aimed at reaching a truce, but the insistence that Assad must go will do little to smooth negotiations with Russia, his biggest backer.

Not content with isolating the US, Russia, Iran and Turkey also made a mockery of the UN when they said last week they were ready to help broker a peace deal after holding talks in Moscow where they adopted a declaration setting out the principles any agreement should adhere to. Arrangements for the talks, which would not include the United States and be distinct from separate intermittent U.N.-brokered negotiations, remain hazy, but Moscow has said they would take place in Kazakhstan, a close ally.

"There are two texts ready on a solution in Syria. One is about a political resolution and the other is about a ceasefire. They can be implemented any time," Cavusoglu told reporters on the sidelines of an awards ceremony at the presidential palace in Ankara.

While Turkey's insistence has been that Assad must go, perhaps in legacy support of US and NATO positions, with Cavusoglu saing that "the whole world knows it is not possible for there to be a political transition with Assad, and we also all know that it is impossible for these people to unite around Assad", Turkey's position appears not set in stone, and last week, Russia's foreign minister said Russia, Iran and Turkey had agreed that the priority in Syria was to fight terrorism and not to remove Assad's government.

Turkey's state-run Anadolu Agency said earlier on Wednesday Moscow and Ankara had agreed on a proposal toward a general ceasefire. The Kremlin said it could not comment on the report.

Cited by Reuters, a Syrian rebel official said meetings between Ankara and rebel forces were expected to continue this week, but could not confirm whether a final ceasefire agreement had been reached.

As Reuters also adds, a major sticking point in negotiations between rebel groups and Turkey was that Russia wanted to exclude the Damascus countryside from the ceasefire, but the rebels refused to do so. A second rebel official told Reuters there was no agreement yet from the side of the rebel factions.

"The details of the ceasefire deal have yet to be officially presented to the factions, and there is no agreement so far," the second official said.

Russia's foreign minister said on Tuesday the Syrian government was consulting with the opposition ahead of possible peace talks, while a Saudi-backed opposition group said it knew nothing of the negotiations but supported a ceasefire.

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In a separate aside, AP reported that Turkish President Erdogan said Saudi Arabia and Qatar - the two countries which ostensibly (together with the US) are responsible for creating, funding and arming the Islamic State - should join its meeting with Russia and Iran to discuss Syrian peace efforts. Erdogan said Tuesday the meeting of foreign ministers should include Saudi Arabia and Qatar, saying they had "shown goodwill and given support" to Syria.

In retrospect, Somehow we doubt that the Saudis and Qatar will be the catalysts that unleash "peace" in Syria.

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Genby's picture

Who is Obama?

Looney's picture

 

0bama’s neck muscles must be very strong – carrying around those ginormous ears and two rows of teeth ain’t easy.  ;-)

Looney

Life of Illusion's picture
Russia, Turkey Agree On Syria PIPELINE Plan

FIXED IT FOR YA

the phantom's picture

So the Turks were caught red handed funding ISIS through the oil trade and providing logistical support... but now they are fighting them and want to bring in SA and Qatar?  Okay... makes perfect sense.  /sarc.

 

As Russia already knows from being back-stabbed already... never trust the Turks.

Jack Oliver's picture

Putin is gaining 'leverage' everywhere - Russia just sold 13% of Gazprom to Qatar - The deal was denominated in Roubles !!

Vlad is a little too clever for Barry !!

evoila's picture

Putin owns Erdogan. He tipped him off to the coup attempt being orchestrated by the US, otherwise Erdogan would have been gone. They may be back together by day, but at night it's 50 shades of Turkey.

 

 

Blankone's picture

Why would anyone think having to sell 13% of Gazprom to the enemy is a positive thing.  If Israel bought the other 87% of Gazprom would that be a huge victory for the Russian people?  Someone has betrayed the russian people in order to put some money into their own pockets.  Clearly Putin consented to let the elite do this.  Sad for russia.

Jack Oliver's picture

Unfortunately you do not understand the 'Art of War'

 

'Subdue your enemy - 'WITHOUT' fighting' 

Elmo Blatch's picture

Putin to Blammy,Did you think you could outsmart a Corleo,er Putin?

jcaz's picture

Who is Barry?  We'd all like to know that, actually...

Cuck to the World, for one....

swmnguy's picture

The Russians haven't trusted the Turks since...well, since ever.  Wars between Russia and Turkey, mostly in what's now Ukraine and Hungary, and also the Caucasus, began about the time the Ottoman Turks seized Constantinople in 1452.  Before then, Russia and the Byzantine Empire had pretty good relations, all being Orthodox and so on.  And Russia wasn't a major unified state yet either.

Of course, there's no need to go back that far.  All you really need to do is look at a photo of Putin with Erdogan.  Whom would you trust?  Neither, if you had any sense, but the one to watch for underhanded backstabbing would be Erdogan.

BobEore's picture

Getting your material for headline-grabbing click-bait stories from regime puppet-press outlet Anadolu has it's down side...

like totally trashing your credibility as a reliable source of "news." Russia and Turkey don't "make agreements on" ceasefire plans, Syria's future, or anything else of consequence, any more than an elephant and it's fleas make arrangments for "scratch-free" zones. Russia dictates the developments, then the diplomats works out the necessary face-saving pr clauses which make it all look OK to sell to the domestic audience and the world at large. Been that way for 6 months now.

Ankara is withdrawing support for the groups of jihadis it inserted into Syria previously, and working on ways to look like they are confronting ISIS without getting their ass kicked everytime. All of their "rebel" proxies run away every time there's a whisper of battle, and the regular army units illegally parked in Syrian territory lose ground and equipment every time the enemy even shows up.And meanwhile, the Kurds are marching on Raqqa.

Just imagine what it was like for the German Army with the Romanian or Italian regiments it had orders to use in order to fill out it's lines in the Eastern and African campaigns, and you will have a rough idea of what it's like for Moscow to deal with the Turks and their incessant demands/ falling upon one's dignity takes on new meaning in this farce. This has nothing to do with Obama, and everything to do with bringing al Nusra finally to heel. Ankara is being finally forced to bite it's tongue and leave it's lackies to their fate.

"Joint statements" and "press releases" aside, the proof of what's really going on is right in this turgid turd of disinfo itself -
:Turkey's state-run Anadolu Agency said earlier on Wednesday Moscow and Ankara had agreed on a proposal toward a general ceasefire. The Kremlin said it could not comment on the report.:

Meanwhile - for those who might like to know what is actually going on behind this Ptomekin Village of a story:

Specifically, the ceasefire will not be implemented in areas where the so-called "Islamic State of Iraq and Al-Sham" (ISIS) and Jabhat Fateh Al-Sham (formerly Al-Nusra Front) are present.

Turkey, who facilitated the entry of these jihadist groups in Syria, has agreed to allow the Russian and Syrian forces to continue their military operations against ISIS and Jabhat Fateh Al-Sham, per this latest ceasefire deal.

Jabhat Fateh Al-Sham began apprehending Turkish-backed rebels returning from the Euphrates Shield offensive in northeastern Aleppo this week, giving no reason for their arbitrary arrests. https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/details-russo-turk-ceasefire-plan-s...

Bay of Pigs's picture

@chivachiva (BobEore),

Where ya been bro? Thought you might have run into trouble over there. Life is good here in Maui if you ever change your mind about living in the USA.

BobEore's picture

I don't mind a spot of trouble or two, if it comes in the course of standing in defense of the community one has come to be a part of. Part of real life, and I've come to greatly prefer it over the imaginary life lived back in Gulagistan.

Got heavily absorbed into reporting on the events of the past 6 months, therefore haven't written a single new thing on our mutual interest - gold&silver markets. Coming back is an exercise in comic relief from the weightier matters I write about now. Watching the little folk thrash about in horror when their fantasies get exploded with facts is always great entertainment. You still visit the sad sack sio-fascists over @ the "silver doctors" or have you weaned yourself off of their menu of fear porn and organ grindin?

So, Maui huh> you hangin with the POTUS, or doin the Magnum thang?

 

Saludos Jefe,

chiva,

rougefaction,

yunus,

hedgey,

etc, etc.,

IridiumRebel's picture

No records have been released besides dubious material so no one knows.

knukles's picture

So the stranger leading us has no more documentation than that left behind by the Russian hackers, you say, eh?

AViewFromDublin's picture

Obamahahahahahahaha...

 

E.F. Mutton's picture

Just like Christmas Dinner - there's an Adults table and a Kid's table.

Guess where Barry sits.

Took Red Pill's picture

but, but, but, he won the Nobel Peace Prize!

HowdyDoody's picture

On the adult table, shitting on everything he can get away with before he is kicked off the premises?

 

IridiumRebel's picture

Can we sequester these fucking dolts?
Are Obama et al trying to maximize damage before egress?

knukles's picture

Order From Chaos, advancing the NWO agenda one engineered social upheaval at a time
Welcome to the Purple Revolution.

Wakie wakie, the same patterns seen during the Green and Orange (etc.) "Revolutions"
Anybody but me ever notice how the "colors" were immediate and uniformly promulgated by the MSM?
"Manufactured"

dogismycopilot's picture

Now we know Obama is really going to light up the Israel/Palestine fuel air mixture.

Vote up if you would prefer Jews for your neighbors

Vote down if you would prefer Muslim Palestinians for your neighbors

HowdyDoody's picture

Wnna know how bad Israel really is? The Jews living in Iran prefer to stay there rather than take Israel's bribes to move to Israel.

swmnguy's picture

I wouldn't say that speaks to how bad Israel is.  I would say it speaks to how false the slanders about Iran are.  There have always been Jews living in Iran, and Iran has always left them more or less alone.  Even the Revolutionary Shi'ite regime in the first years of Khomeini's takeover left the Jews alone.  

Why leave your homeland since time immemorial when there's no compelling reason to do so?  My ancestors moved to America from Switzerland, France, Wales and Scotland all around 1640 and we've been here ever since.  I'm sure those are all fine places to live, and I certainly know the faults of America, but they'd have to pay me an absolute shit-ton in money and privileges for me to leave the only place I've ever known to live someplace I've never been.  

Ethnicity is yet another Identity Politics mythology.  Living in a middle-class black neighborhood in an area full of Scandinavians, I have far more in common with my neighbors with whom I share neither race, ethnicity nor religion, than I would among people my ancestors left 400 years ago.  Same for the Jews in Iran.

Pegasus Muse's picture

Palestinians know what you get when zionazis are your neighbor.  http://tinyurl.com/z48cjwa

Very graphic evidence it is not a good thing:  http://immediateexpulsionofallisraelidiplomatsfromireland.org/ 

sidfalco's picture

What tf has it got to do with the Turks either?

orangegeek's picture

Use the back door when exiting the White House Barry.

Skiprrrdog's picture

'back door' is the only one he knows...

AViewFromDublin's picture

..and he likes to enter it not exit it or maybe thats what

 

 Manchelle does???

 

 

knukles's picture

He showed the Dalai Lama out by the back door past the garbage bags when he visited the WH years ago.
Nice touch.

AViewFromDublin's picture

Wow what a classy dude. lol

Skiprrrdog's picture

With Obobo I think it is more constructive to think revolving door...

onewayticket2's picture

obama will leave the WH even more bitter than the day he arrived in it.  

Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned

fangulos's picture

He is gonna be neighbour to Podesta...

Pizza party guranteed if Pod is still relavant in dem

SpanishGoop's picture

"Black door" ?

You racist.

 

yogibear's picture

Barry can go back to visiting gay nightclubs again once he vacates office. About the only thing he did well.

JohnGaltUk's picture

Silly Barry being sidelined again.

Putin seems to be leading the world these days.

Totally_Disillusioned's picture

That's why he's focused on executing his agenda through the UN - believing he's bypassing congress/people and the resolutions are binding on US - that may be debatable but will involve ICJ/DOJ to unravel. That is if we choose to maintain our membership.

baldknobber's picture

I suspect  the cease fire went something like this.

Turkey: Our team only has 6 guys left and no bullets to shoot

Russia: We agree to stop killing them

justsayin2u's picture

Barry appears to be the only one unaware that Barry is irrelevant, ignored, and ignorant.

Last of the Middle Class's picture

It is completely inconceivable to most Americans that the "magic negro" status of Barry is completely ignored outside the US. The rest of the world could give a rat's ass (close approximation) about America's voting in a black man twice. MSM penance for slavery means nothing to them and it should have been the same here. We would be much better off.

Mike Masr's picture

The warmongering neocons won't let this peace deal go through!

 

“Secret cables and reports by the U.S., Saudi and Israeli intelligence agencies indicate that the moment Assad rejected the Qatari pipeline, military and intelligence planners quickly arrived at the consensus that fomenting a Sunni uprising in Syria to overthrow the uncooperative Bashar Assad was a feasible path to achieving the shared objective of completing the Qatar/Turkey gas link. In 2009, according to WikiLeaks, soon after Bashar Assad rejected the Qatar pipeline, the CIA began funding opposition groups in Syria.”