Oliver Stone Slams The Establishment's "The Russians Are Coming" Narrative

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Authored by Oliver Stone (via Facebook),


As 2016 draws to a close, we find ourselves a deeply unsettled nation. We’re unable to draw the lines of our national interest. Is it jobs and economy, is it national security, or is it now in our interest to ensure global security -- in other words, act as the world’s policemen?

As the “failing” (to quote Trump) New York Times degenerates into a Washington Post organization with its stagnant Cold War vision of a 1950s world where the Russians are to blame for most everything -- Hillary’s loss, most of the aggression and disorder in the world, the desire to destabilize Europe, etc. -- the Times has added the issue of ‘fake news’ to reassert its problematic role as the dominant voice for the Washington establishment. Certainly this is true in the case of Russia’s ‘hacking’ the 2016 election and putting into office its Manchurian Candidate in Donald Trump. Apparently the CIA (via various unnamed intelligence officials), and the FBI, NSA, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper (who notoriously lied to Congress in the Snowden affair), President Obama, the DNC, Hillary Clinton, and Congress agree that Russia, and Mr. Putin predominantly, is responsible.

Certainly the psychotic, war-loving Senator John McCain is right up there alongside these patriots, calling President Putin a “thug, bully and a murderer and anybody else who describes him as anything else is lying.” He actually said this -- the man whose sound judgment chose Sarah Palin as his VP nominee in ’08. And the Times followed by printing the story in its full glory on page one, clearly agreeing with McCain’s point of view. I don’t remember Presidents Eisenhower, Nixon, or Reagan, in the darkest days of the 1950s/80s, ever singling out a Russian President like this. The invective was aimed at the Soviet regime, but never were Khrushchev or Brezhnev the target of this bile. I guess this is a new form of American diplomacy. If a black youth in our inner cities were killed or a Pakistani wedding party were murdered by our drones, would President Obama be singled out as a murderer, bully, thug? Such personalization is a sign of sickness in our thinking and way beneath what should be our standards.

Note the enclosed link from the Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (which includes the ex-NSA reformer Bill Binney, a mathematical genius who inspired the Nic Cage character in “Snowden,” and who talks here about what hacking really means, as opposed to a ‘leak’). The Times and other mainstream media have surprisingly evaded any contrary evidence, such as that presented by Craig Murray, ex-ambassador and Wikileaks spokesman who says he was given the information in a Washington park by a Democratic ‘insider’ who was disgusted by the behavior of the DNC; Murray then gave it to Wikileaks. This was a ‘leak,’ not a ‘hack,’ and always seemed to me the likely source for this scandal (as I think the Sony leak was as well, falsely blamed on North Korea, but that’s another matter). And if this were to be properly investigated, it might very well lead to the discovery that this was Hillary Clinton’s ‘Nixon moment.’ Clearly the DNC offices were up to no good. Ironically, Clinton first made her name as one of the investigators into Watergate. See Mark Ames’s article, “Site Behind McCarthyite Blacklist,” tracking this foul play to Washington Post journalist Craig Timberg.

I remember well in the 1950s when the Russians were supposed to be in our schools, Congress, State Department -- and according to many Eisenhower/Nixon supporters -- about to take over our country without serious opposition (and they call me paranoid!). It was this same media who insisted on our need to go to Vietnam to defend our freedoms against the communists 6,000 miles away. And after the Red Scare finally went away for good in 1991, let us remind ourselves that It never ended. It became Hussein of Iraq with his weapons of mass destruction, and talk of the ‘mushroom cloud.’ It became a Demon, as real as any Salem Witch Trial. It was Gaddafi of Libya, and then it was Assad of Syria. In other words, as in an Orwellian prophesy, it never ended, and I can guarantee you it never will -- unless we the people who can still think for ourselves in this existential matter, can say “Enough” to this demon act. “Enough,’ “go away” -- laugh in their faces.

Of course, the NYT/WaPo nexus rarely will publish any of our serious dissents and thus we must take refuge in alternate media, such as ‘Consortiumnews,’ ‘The Intercept,’ ‘Naked Capitalism,’ ‘Counterpunch,’ ‘Zero Hedge,’ ‘Antiwar.com,’ ‘Truthdig,’ ‘Common Dreams.’ Yet I think we were all quite shocked (but not surprised) when recently we saw 200 websites listed as tools of the Kremlin (WaPo’s November 24, “Russian propaganda effort helped spread ‘fake news’ during election”).

My God, the ghost of Izzy Stone is back from the 1950s! For that matter, so is Tom Clancy from the ’80s. False thrillers will now be written about the Russians hacking the American elections. Money and TV serials will be made. I’ve never read such hysterical junk (call it what it is -- “fake news”) in the New York Times, in which the editorials have become outrageous diatribes, many of them presumably written by Serge Schmemann, one of those ideologues who still finds Russians under his bed at night (called ‘White Russians’ in the old days who, like right-wing Cubans in Miami, can never live down past grievances). Schmemann is obviously riding high at the NYT edit board. We can make fun of this, but it’s an irresponsible and dangerous editorializing, which has invaded the MSM’s reporting. Their thinking has clearly influenced the Pentagon and many of our Generals’ statements. When one group-think controls our national conversation, it’s so sad, a pathetic loss of judgment, and it becomes ultra dangerous. In this spirit, I’m linking several crucial essays of new vintage, pointing out the disgrace the MSM has become.

As much as we may disagree with Donald Trump (and I do) he’s right now target number one of the MSM propaganda -- until, that is, he changes to the anti-Kremlin track over, God knows, some kind of petty dispute cooked up by CIA, and in his hot-headed way starts fighting with the Russians. It wouldn’t be long then until he declares a state of war against Russia. I have no doubt then that our over-financed military ($10 to every 1 Russian dollar) will mean NOTHING against a country that right now believes the US, with the largest buildup of NATO on its borders since Hitler’s World War II, is crazed enough to prepare for a preemptive strike. In his analysis, “The Need to Hold Saudi Arabia Accountable,” Robert Parry points out that this conflict ironically started in the 1980s with the Neoconservatives defining Iran as the number one terrorist sponsor in the world. How this leads to our present mess is a brilliant analysis that is unknown to the American public.

I urge you to read the following articles and stay calm in your thinking. But bring it to bear in some way.

Robert Parry, “Making Russia ‘The Enemy’,” Consortiumnews

Joe Lauria, “Russia-Hack Story Another Media Failure,” Consortiumnews

Justin Raimondo, “Stop the CIA Coup,” Antiwar.com

Robert Parry, “The Need to Hold Saudi Arabia Accountable,” Consortiumnews

Ray McGovern, “US Intel Vets Dispute Russia Hacking Claims,” Consortiumnews

Mark Ames, “Site behind Washington Post’s McCarthyite Blacklist,” Naked Capitalism

Robert Parry, “A Sour Holiday Season for Neocons,” Consortiumnews

As a believer in what Thich Nhat Hanh says, every single one of us, even through our prayers, can add to the betterment of this world. I never thought I’d find myself at this point in time praying for the level-headedness of a Donald Trump. You might remember “The Iliad.” As Homer would have it, the gods would huddle up during each day’s battles and decide on the outcome. Who would die and who would live. Are the gods still listening?

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Bay Area Guy's picture

if a Clancy-like movie is to be made of this whole fiasco, just don't let Ben Affleck near it.  He ruined The Sum of All Fears.

knukles's picture

Are we sure Oliver Stone's account wasn't hacked?  Sure doesn't sound like him.  Probably the Russians

erg's picture

I thought it was Roger Stone

knukles's picture

Did you know that he has Richard Nixon's face tattooed on his back?

erg's picture

Yeah, I saw that knuks. That's quite a commitment to sew a two foot face on your back.

I always thought it would be useful to have my city tattooed on my chest. I could just look inside my tee to see where I fucked up.

Holy hand grenade of Antioch's picture
Holy hand grenade of Antioch (not verified) erg Dec 29, 2016 9:49 PM

Fuck Oliver Stone & his retrofitted mamby pamby sense of justice... Nobody needs his sorry ass to see what's right & wrong...

PT's picture

All them links in the article go to a page that tell me I am leaving Facebook but I never use Facebook.  Why is a Facebook page inserting itself between this article and the links?  Does Fbook control the abbreviated link names or something?

NotApplicable's picture

The article was originally posted on Facebook.

Shemp 4 Victory's picture

To bypass facebook, just copy the actual text of the link and paste it in the address bar of a browser window.

For example, the link http://bit.ly/2hz4jTI redirects to https://consortiumnews.com/2016/12/15/making-russia-the-enemy/

jimsoong25's picture

I'm not sure, but I don't think I'm going to trust these guys:


"We have written extensively about the U.S. media imbalance, tilted by a well-funded right-wing media machine."

Yea, like the right-wing mouse standing in front of the big left-wing media elephant is a big problem.  If only we had a little more money and a few more websites so we could step on that mouse.





MFL5591's picture

Unsettled, till the Kenyan con man is gone!  Give us a red blooded American who loves the country and we will be able to weather any storm!  Russia is not the problem, Rothchild/Bush/Soros and Rockerfeller are!

Rehab Willie's picture

I wonder if Facebook put a Fake News flair on this post.

Creative_Destruct's picture

Every once in a great while, a leftist with his head up his back side will manage to withdraw enough to get one eye past the plane of his sphincter and see a little light. Witness here Stone on Russian hysteria and demonization by the MSM, and elsewhere Bourdain pointing out how leftist elites wrongly demean and dismiss the heartland people.

ALMOST (but not quite) enough to redeem some of my lost faith in humanity....

DarkPurpleHaze's picture

Oliver Stone and Michael Moore in a cage match is something I'd pay to see!

Croesus's picture

$1000 on Stone, he's way smarter; Michael Moore sees everything as "potential food", and would forget he's in a fight.

Emergency Ward's picture

They are not in the same league.  Stone wins without showing up.

PT's picture

I just want to know what Hillary has on Moore.  In the beginning I thought he was just starry-eyed blind but now I think it has to be something bigger.  No way should he be that stupid.  He was never perfect but in the past I really thought he was, on average, a force for good.  Now?  Well, if we was good then in theory we should see a time where he wakes up and acknowledges the error of his ways and tries to make amends.  In the real world, I very much doubt that will ever happen.  He's as deluded as Baghdad Bob.

BabaLooey's picture

Moore's a two ton huckster. A asinine "film-maker". 

He had a film festivus up in Michigan. Friends of mine went up there and went to it. Met him. Said he was meek as a lamb in person.

Fuck him. He's only relevant as the libtard media loves the oaf since he's fat, dumb looking and makes shitty shock-u-mentaries, all of which have turned out to be complete farces. 

ZH uses him as a gigantic punching zeppelin for us to take out our collective angst. A big fat fucking fucked up target. 

PT's picture

I liked Roger and Me.  And now he appears to have forgotten that he ever made that documentary or lived in Flint, Michigan.  That is an amazing turn around, a true DoubleThink.


He knows and yet he does not know.  How long before he gets diagnosed Schizophrenic?  Or is his fat body a direct result of two opposing ideas inhabiting the same shell and trying to mazimize the distance between each other?

lakecity55's picture

Someone exposed part of his nvestment portfolio a few years ago. As I recall, he was heavily invested in companies he claimed were bad in public.

Apparently, he is just an Act.

Cahal88's picture

bagdad bob 'poor man' was putting on a brave face against the biggest possible bully. moore is a fat spoilt slob belonging to the bully

False_Profit's picture

Maybe moore likes pizza and hotdogs...

Gott mit uns...

GeezerGeek's picture

Winner gets a night with cankles. Loser gets two.

fattail's picture

Oliver Stone actually fought in Vietnam, and was awarded a Bronze Star and a Purple Heart.  Given that set of facts, I would listen to what he says when it comes to war.

dlfield's picture

Why is everything on here a "slam" ?

stant's picture

Tom Clancy s Fuktards Rising , has a nice ring to it

Proctologist's picture

I do like his calling John McCain psychotic, but it's kind of mild.

Makes me wonder if he believes Joseph Goebbel was an intellectual.

Reaper's picture

Declare Barack, Graham and McCain enemies of the American people. They're degenerates with lesser ability than Nero. https://blog.worldbook.com/2014/06/10/this-week-in-history-the-roman-emp...

Dr. Bonzo's picture

You know Oliver, the hallmark of achievement is when the establishment starts calling you nuts. By that metric, you my friend, are completely fucking bonkers. Good to see you reading The Hedge these days. You ever only grow in my estimation, Oliver. I couldn't really appreciate Platoon, I was surrounded by too many lifer asshole Nam vets who all fancied themselves Barneses; Wallstreet, so many quaotable moments; JFK was pure art and ditto; Any Given Sunday pleasantly surprised and Snowden was a well-told summation of the Snowden affair. Next time you're in Hong Kong we're gonna have to go boozing together Oliver, you subversive fuck.

We love you brother. Keep fighting the good fight Ollie. And fuck Hollywood.


Xena fobe's picture

Platoon blew my mind as a young girl.  I remember asking my Dad if war was like that.  Yep, he said.  Killed my silly notions of war as John Wayne movies.  And gave me respect for all Veterans to this day.



CuttingEdge's picture

The last firefight is on a par with the Valkyrie scene in Apoc, or the DDay landing in Saving Ryan. Iconic.

A great film. Berenger and Dafoe were amazing, but Charlie Sheen's defining role came way too young.

And his dad is a prick.

Socratic Dog's picture

Why respect?  Why not sorrow, for their stupidity in getting involved in a rich man's game?  Why not hatred, for the crimes against innocents they, at the least, aided and abetted? 

There hasn't been a just war for a long long time.  That's what you need to teach your children.  Reflexively "respecting vets" (whatever the fuck that means) does not help.

In Australia Vietnam vets were despised.  I think that of the two, respect vs despise, Australia was closer to the truth.

Shemp 4 Victory's picture

Anyone know if the documentary he produced about the State Department coup in Kiev, Ukraine On Fire, has been released on DVD?

youarelost's picture

Left wing nut Stone said this? Ha funny how left is right and right is left.



DjangoCat's picture

I think we have left left and right behind.  Now it is a question of to be on not to be.  Slaves or free people.

Dealyer Turdin's picture


" What was done must be undone before the future comes to life."

' ahem'

truisms in an upside down world are seriously annoying.

navy62802's picture

Let's start by rooting out the corruption. Until we do that, nothing else matters.

GooseShtepping Moron's picture

It needs to be repeated over and over again that there was no Russian hacking of the US election. It is an out-and-out lie on par with the one about a "hateful video" being responsible for the Benghazi attacks. Obama, the piece of shit ass-tampon that he is, just started a major diplomatic incident with the Russians because he's a butt-hurt little petulant, prissy-boy faggot. This is his true face. This is your "first black president," America. His anti-American mendacity rises to the level of treason and it should be treated as such.

Krungle's picture

The absurdity is that Obama has said as much many times. Then in the next breath he claims that hacking emails was responsible for the media not covering Hillary as slavishly as they were supposed to, which lead to....the election being hacked. The hack claim itself is absurd since it ignores the man who says he was responsible for giving the LEAKED documents to Wikileaks--he hasn't even been interviewed by US intelligence as far as I am aware. The attempts to access actual voting infrastructure came from DHS computers, as several states have confirmed. And then we're still deflecting from the fact that Hillary intentionally used unsecure com channels and was probably hacked by Russia and everyone else. But the actually damning stuff, the classified intel, never made it to Wikileaks. If they admitted that Russia actually got that intel, then they'd be admitting Hillary committed serious crimes by not using appropriate security measures in her communications (and actively seeking to subvert them). So we are in bizzaro world where we are willing to risk nuclear war because we cannot officially admit that Hillary was totally careless in carrying out the duties of her job because it would reflect poorly on the weak ego of Obama for campaigning for her instead of prosecuting her. 

One of We's picture

Agree with everything except the level of Obama's credit/blame for the recent actions.  I have no doubt that he was given marching orders and that he fully expected to be enjoying short-timers disease out on the links for the last couple months of his term.

SixIsNinE's picture

i looked at two california sites today, ktla & sfgate, both had multiple stories headlines reporting like it was 1000% positive confirmed, FACT that russia hacked the elections.  ktla had 2 or 3 of the Obama vs Putin showdown photos with Barry attempting to look down menacingly ...

They do NOT care how blatant the lies are.  they (cali) have bubbled themselves in the commitment to DNC Dim lies ...


BabaLooey's picture

Wow. Stone nails it. Who'da thunk it.

Sizzurp's picture

When did he write this? It sounds like he read my post !! That's fine with me, BTW. I think Stone is a ZH'er.

ISEEIT's picture


I will read it (look forward to it).


via Facebook???



Nice move-:)