Narrative Smashed By Stats - "Most Americans" Did Not Vote For Hillary Clinton

Tyler Durden's picture

Submitted by Salil Mehta via Statistical Ideas blog,

Happy New Year!  As we wrap up another successful year of the statistics blog (now with >50k followers), we would be remiss not to recognize some nice friends who are still feeling disappointed over the outcome of the recent U.S. election.  It is worth exploring a little more about the election results, based on the most updated voting records.  Particularly as the Democrats have pivoted the tête-à-tête from recount and FBI director Comey, to popular vote and Russian president Putin. 

What does it mean to now imply that "most Americans" voted for Democratic ideals, given the results (looked at through the prism of a popular vote tabulation) showed Hillary Clinton won by only a couple percent? 

It turns out that this sort of conclusion is false, and instead it leads to one party presuming to hold a mighty moral high-ground from their ¼ voting share? 

From a peak in 2008, now through 2016, those not caring to vote (in white below) continuously rose to 45% (from 43%).  This is a higher voter apathy than in virtually all other advanced countries.  And frankly, it is the largest American segment of 114m (up from 99m).  Last-minute undecideds (including me) rose.

Additionally, the voting share for the popular vote "winner" (in blue below) fell to 48% (from 53%), or as a portion of the entire eligible population (as opposed to as a portion of voters) it fell to 26% (from 30%).  So on net, even as the population grew, a small fraction voted (and within that an even smaller fraction voted for the popular vote "winner").  This results in Hillary Clinton not epitomizing the views of "most Americans" even if she "won the popular vote", but rather supported by only 66 million Americans (down from 70 million who voted for Barack Obama in 2008).

I'm with her?  Observe their share of the pie, below!  Democrats have simply seen a continuously dwindling moral-standing to speak for all Americans, even as the population has grown in the past 8 years.

So now back to my friends who are still feeling sour over the Presidential election and looking for relief.  I feel a particular sense of responsibility since my polling probability research was read by millions and continuously solicited/shared by one party, and always properly showed Donald Trump had much stronger odds (~3x) versus what MSM polls or Nate Silver were "scientifically" suggesting.  It is worth noting something here at year-end: it's an acutely individual loss, to not see that there are so many tremendous and long-term opportunities we get to enjoy, just living in a great nation such as the United States.  We get most things right, most of the time.  We get to argue about politics and not worry about a knock on our door in the middle of the night.

The rest of the world has already moved on, as they should.  They really never cared as much about you, or your candidate (just as ½ of our own country doesn't, per above).  That was mainstream media noise that fooled you.  And having worked for many years, in and out of Washington, we can assure you that well over 90% of people have issues so much larger than who was or will be in the White House.  Yet it's captivating, nonetheless, the amount of attention spent in social circles defying this actuality, and presuming moral high-ground by  falsely twisting statistics to suit private needs.  By setting some simple statistics straight, we honestly hope 2017 ushers in a new era of knowledge, contentment and worldly views, as we leave the disparaging partisan choke-hold of the 2016 elections behind.

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DownWithYogaPants's picture

Von Firstenberg.

Who here would like to lick Shrillary's gnash wound and make her feel all better?

kill switch's picture

How can you with my head in the way??

knukles's picture

Fakts don't matter and maffs an inconvient troof

Nekoti's picture

Fakts don't matter, but according to the lame stream media, black lives do.

tazs's picture
tazs (not verified) Nekoti Dec 31, 2016 6:31 PM

False logic. Most did not vote for her. BUT more did for her than for Trump. 3 million more.

Vatican_cameo's picture


Logic and Facts only matter when they support your cause, the rest is just window dressing.  Fortunately for the Dems, neither Logic OR Facts apply in any facet of their existence, so they've adjusted according.  They LIE.

CheapBastard's picture

maff makes my head hurt, but Prof Mehta makes a good point which confirms what I see 'on the street' and the election also confirmed.

It's the screaming, vicious, violent Hitlary voters supported by lying MSM that seemed to be yelled across most headlines instead of the truth.

I'm glad to see these stats by this author. Although Hillary voters, MSM, the MIC and Soros will still ignore the truth since their wallets/goals depend on ignoring it.


snr-moment's picture

I am still confused.  what does the red inner segment labelled 28% represent? and why does a growing electorate get represented by a smaller circle?

TuPhat's picture

Did you read the article?  All that was explained.  Try reading it again.

snr-moment's picture

or maybe you should learn to think critically.  why paint the stein and johnson voters red?  why show a higher number of voters in a smaller circle.

you can't skip the kool-aid if you can't identify it.



Fathead Slim's picture
Fathead Slim (not verified) tazs Dec 31, 2016 6:40 PM

Bullshit. Hillary got about 25% of the votes they're claiming she got. The rest was falsified.

balolalo's picture


then how many of trump's were falsified?  

watch out...  TRUMP is an oligarch, and he doesn't give a fuck about you or any of the other peons he sells out.  he is not here to save you or anyone else but the oligarchs and their cronies.

he is the #1 candidate for the 1%

and most trump dick suckers believe him hook line and sinker

Indelible Scars's picture

I bet people tell you to go fuck yourself. Like, a lot.

insanelysane's picture

"I bet people tell you to go fuck yourself. Like, a lot."

First hearty laugh of the New Year.  Thanks so much!  Love the trolls as they just spout the party line.  ZH gets boring some time as most are on the same page.

New_Meat's picture

we should recount states that went for Hillary too.  'cuz WI and MI increased the total that Trump had after all of the "fraud" and "hacking".  Let's start with NH, where one college town had more votes than it has people in total.

- Ned

{no, the 1% and the 0.001% rather despise him and the feeling is mutual}

kellys_eye's picture

Might I suggest that the turnout was 100% for Amrericans - the other 45% non-voters being illegals?

N2OJoe's picture

A more accurate estimate would be to flip those 2 percentages around.

Nekoti's picture

3 million more what? Illegals?

Son of Loki's picture

Speaking of illegals:


And every 33 seconds, a new international immigrant - legal or otherwise - will be added to the population of the US of A.

Nekoti's picture

Yes, thanks to dear leader Odumbfuck. Let's hope Trump sticks to his pledge on illegals.

Archibald Buttle's picture

imagine what would be happening to the population of illinois if this weren't the case

Krungle's picture

And when you take out California Trump won by over a million. Which is to say she won the popular vote in a California and lost the rest of the country. Note, during Stein's aborted recount effort they turned up a few uncounted votes for the Don, but they found huge numbers of false Hildebeast votes in Detroit. Since that pretty much put an end to the recounts, we do not know the full extent of the DNCs hacking of the US election. If I recall correctly some precincts had something like 50% more votes than registered voters around Detroit. If that was not atypical of how the DNC was hacking the vote (and given O'Keefe's efforts we can infer it was the norm), that 3 million figure is likely inflated, especially since California is big of letting non-citizens vote (multiple times). It is entirely possible she lost the popular vote too (3 million odd votes over the entire country is within the realms of riggable). That would be somewhere in the neighborhood of 5% of her votes were invalid. Again, given what was uncovered and then covered up in D leaning parts of Michigan, it's quite likely the popular vote (which doesn't even matter) was much closer.

glenlloyd's picture

It's not false logic dude, you obviously don't understand the math involved.

You can now go back to licking her twat.

Offthebeach's picture

She certainly got 99% of the EBT/FreeShitArmy, and the Local-State-Fed dtones that make paracite livings servicing the Welfare Industrial Complex.

Tradesmen, truckers, fishermam, small and medium businesses, not so much.

DosZap's picture

And therein lies her/the Dems base, the East and West coast.

Without both they would cease to exist.

moneybots's picture

BUT, Trump needed an electoral college win, which was what he sought in the closing days of the race. Trump did not compete here in California, which provided Hillary the 3 million vote margin. Any case for popular vote is false logic. The race was not about winning the popular vote. If it was about the popular vote, Hillary still didn't win, because one needs 50%+1. There would need to be a run off in order to decide the winner.

Theosebes Goodfellow's picture

~" olives matter"~


(Sorry, bad olive joke.)

Taint Boil's picture

Bad Olive Joke:

One day two olives, who were best friends, were walking together down the street. They stepped off the curb and a speeding car came around the corner and ran one of them over. The uninjured olive called 911 and helped his injured friend as best he was able. The injured olive was taken to emergency at the hospital and rushed into surgery. After a long and agonizing wait, the doctor finally appeared. He told the uninjured olive, "I have good news, and I have bad news. The good news is that your friend is going to pull through." "The bad news is that he's going to be a vegetable for the rest of his life". 

Theosebes Goodfellow's picture

~"Fakts don't matter, but according to the lame stream media, black lives do."~

Well, more than blue ones as I understand it.

...and you can lead a horse to water, but pencils have to be lead.

Look, I've had a wonderful evening. But this wasn't it.

(A Special thanks to Laurel & Hardy and my favorite Marxist, Groucho.)

"Say goodnight, Gracie."

Ginsengbull's picture

Maff dont matter either, according to Arthur Anderson.

garcam123's picture

That's a 3/4 yard shitmixer if I ever did see one.....That thing looks like a disease!

DeathMerchant's picture

Master of the Universe will do it or Snakehead perhaps.


If voting mattered it would be illegal. The jews will get what they want no matter what.

Dickweed Wang's picture

The jews will get what they want no matter what.


Yes and until the propulation in the USA puts a stop to the undue influence exterted by the Tribe in the USA not a damn thing will change.

False_Profit's picture

Marquis de LaFayette (1757-1834; French statesman and general. He served in the American Continental Army under the command of General George Washington during the American Revolutionary War.)

“It is my opinion that if the liberties of this country – the United States of America – are destroyed, it will be by the subtlety of the Roman Catholic Jesuit priests, for they are the most crafty, dangerous enemies to civil and religious liberty. They have instigated MOST of the wars of Europe.”

DeathMerchant's picture

I'm inclined to go with this as opposed to the Jew bashing. Catholics helped Nazi war criminals for obvious reasons and they help illegal immigrants now for obvious reasons. I'm betting that if the illegal aliens were Jews the "holy mother church" would be absent from the issue entirely.

Jubal Early's picture

"Catholics helped Nazi war criminals"

Wrong answer kike!  The only real war criminals were Roosevelt, Churchill and Stalin and their jewish owners.  And what your tribe did to Germany after the war and the extent of their lies and terrorism to recreate Israel remains today by far the planets greatest issue.  Besides, it isn't close to jew bashing, because if the entire truth about their actions over the millenia were known, then Israel long ago would have shriveled away and the planet would be both peaceful and prosperous.

Miss Informed's picture

Lafayette could not have imagined AIPAC

Beans's picture

Look, unlike the DNC/FBI/DHS/(insert additional intelligence/security acronym if desired), I don't have any conclusive evidence to prove the following assertion at all, but I am pretty certain that voting does in fact not matter, not at all, even though it's legal. I would bet that many of the votes crooked Hillary got were created out of thin air on those voting machines. If the machines are rigged then voting certainly cannot matter. 

Oh and I also totally agree on the Jews but think it would be smarter to label those bastards as Zionists/Ziocons/Neocons/Lizards/Shapeshifters or anything similar. 'Jews' would refer to the entire population/group of individuals identifying as such and which comprises many subsets. Not all the subsets of Jews are nutbag psychopaths trying to enslave/destroy us all. That would be only about one or two of the Jewish subsets which pursue that project.

kill switch's picture

You owe me a fucking keyboard you trollop loving asshat...;)

JRobby's picture

Remember that friend from high school? The one where 50% of what they said was half true (at best)?

Neither do I

nmewn's picture





...sigh, I just like the sound of that ;-)

Laddie's picture

The fact is that White Men voted OVERWHELMINGLY for the Donald and, despite years of "education" nearly 50% of White women voted for Trump also. White women and men without college voted OVERWHELMINGLY for Trump.

Frankly unless one reads ZH or a handful of other sites one remains IGNORANT of reality, and the MSM is an arm of propaganda for the Deep State.

Yet even though most whites do NOT read TRUTH SITES, they KNOW something is wrong.

And this is an example of what is wrong:
So I Figured Out That Mike Thernovich Thing…

So, why?
Well, some people claim it’s because he is himself Jewish. I went through this in my article. We don’t know if he’s Jewish. But he has tweeted about Jewish control of the media and about white genocide in the past, so even if he is Jewish, he didn’t used to be uncomfortable talking about Jews.

Enter Loren Feldman.

This is the guy who produced his movie “Silenced” – which, ironically, is about free speech.

He is the Jew behind the curtain. Just like Alex Jones has his Jew Rob Jacobson and Gavin McInnes has his Jew Ezra Levant.

And look at this Feldman.

These are just his recent tweets.

Those Outraged Over the UN Resolution Should be More Concerned with Israel’s Nukes Aimed at Us!

Voltaire: “To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize”
"The Jewish fashioned noose of Orwell’s ‘1984’ dystopia is indeed being constantly tightened around White peoples’ necks…everywhere. The internet revolution is endangering Jewry’s lock on the White psyche at this demographic tipping point juncture, and this is why they are removing the velvet glove to try to knuckle us under. Meanwhile, considering the critical situation, continued White somnolence about racial, political and ethnic reality is nothing short of astonishing. It could reasonably be asked, are we actually living in the Age of the White Dodo Bird?"

DeathMerchant's picture

You mean that the bullshit hype about the latino vote was bogus?? According to a study done in 2012 based upon the 2010 census, white voters outnumbered asian, black and hispanic voters combined.

If white people all woke up and realized what was going on, they would stop this leftist puke apologist bullshit and make sure that the left never held power again. If they don't then they just must simply be eliminated at some point by some method.