"Something Stinks" - Like Iraq WMD Fiasco, Russia Story Doesn't Add Up

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Submitted by Michael Shedlock via MishTalk.com,

Yesterday, President Obama expelled 35 Russian “Operatives” from the Russian Embassy.

Is there any evidence those expelled are “intelligence operatives”? Any hard evidence Russia was behind the Hillary hacks? Any credible evidence that Putin himself is to blame?

The answers are No, No, and No. Yet, once again the American press is again asked to co-sign a dubious intelligence assessment.

Rush to Judgment


Something Stinks

The Rolling Stone comments Something About This Russia Story Stinks

In an extraordinary development Thursday, the Obama administration announced a series of sanctions against Russia. Thirty-five Russian nationals will be expelled from the country. President Obama issued a terse statement seeming to blame Russia for the hack of the Democratic National Committee emails.


“These data theft and disclosure activities could only have been directed by the highest levels of the Russian government,” he wrote.


The problem with this story is that, like the Iraq-WMD mess, it takes place in the middle of a highly politicized environment during which the motives of all the relevant actors are suspect. Nothing quite adds up.


If the American security agencies had smoking-gun evidence that the Russians had an organized campaign to derail the U.S. presidential election and deliver the White House to Trump, then expelling a few dozen diplomats after the election seems like an oddly weak and ill-timed response. Voices in both parties are saying this now.


Republican Sens. John McCain and Lindsey Graham noted the “small price” Russia paid for its “brazen attack.” The Democratic National Committee, meanwhile, said Thursday that taken alone, the Obama response is “insufficient” as a response to “attacks on the United States by a foreign power.”


The “small price” is an eyebrow-raiser.


Adding to the problem is that in the last months of the campaign, and also in the time since the election, we’ve seen an epidemic of factually loose, clearly politically motivated reporting about Russia. Democrat-leaning pundits have been unnervingly quick to use phrases like “Russia hacked the election.”


This has led to widespread confusion among news audiences over whether the Russians hacked the DNC emails (a story that has at least been backed by some evidence, even if it hasn’t always been great evidence), or whether Russians hacked vote tallies in critical states (a far more outlandish tale backed by no credible evidence).


As noted in The Intercept and other outlets, an Economist/YouGov poll conducted this month shows that 50 percent of all Clinton voters believe the Russians hacked vote tallies.


And reports by some Democrat-friendly reporters – like Kurt Eichenwald, who has birthed some real head-scratchers this year, including what he admitted was a baseless claim that Trump spent time in an institution in 1990 – have attempted to argue that Trump surrogates may have been liaising with the Russians because they either visited Russia or appeared on the RT network. Similar reporting about Russian scheming has been based entirely on unnamed security sources.


Now we have this sanctions story, which presents a new conundrum. It appears that a large segment of the press is biting hard on the core allegations of electoral interference emanating from the Obama administration.

Did the Russians do it? Very possibly, in which case it should be reported to the max. But the press right now is flying blind.


Maybe the Russians did hack the DNC, but the WikiLeaks material actually came from someone else? There is even a published report to that effect, with a former British ambassador as a source, not that it’s any more believable than anything else here.


We just don’t know, which is the problem.


We ought to have learned from the Judith Miller episode. Not only do governments lie, they won’t hesitate to burn news agencies. In a desperate moment, they’ll use any sucker they can find to get a point across.

Where the Hell is the Evidence?

‘I Can Guarantee You, It Was Not the Russians’

John McAfee, founder of the security firm McAfee Associates, says ‘I Can Guarantee You, It Was Not the Russians’.

The Joint Analysis Report from the FBI contains an appendix that lists hundreds of IP addresses that were supposedly “used by Russian civilian and military intelligence services.” While some of those IP addresses are from Russia, the majority are from all over the world, which means that the hackers constantly faked their location.


McAfee argues that the report is a “fallacy,” explaining that hackers can fake their location, their language, and any markers that could lead back to them. Any hacker who had the skills to hack into the DNC would also be able to hide their tracks, he said


“If I was the Chinese and I wanted to make it look like the Russians did it, I would use Russian language within the code, I would use Russian techniques of breaking into the organization,” McAfee said, adding that, in the end, “there simply is no way to assign a source for any attack.”

Question of Patriotism

It’s not patriotic to accept accusations as facts, given US history of lies, deceit, meddling, and wars.

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Skiprrrdog's picture

The gay Kenyan limo driver is a one man Russian cell...

zorba THE GREEK's picture

The only thing you know for sure these days, is that nothing is a sure thing. But after a while you get a nose for things that stink. And this Russian hack attack stinks to high heaven.

Yukon Cornholius's picture

Especially considering the Brits killed an MP to get what they wanted. Hacking a pedophiles computer is a pretty lame narrative with which to start world war 3.

The Saint's picture
The Saint (not verified) Yukon Cornholius Dec 31, 2016 10:45 AM

I hope this somehow ends up with Obama being impeached (after the fact) for high crimes and misdomeanors.  He is having these charges fabricated.  The truth will come out and I hope it hangs him.


beemasters's picture

Iraq was much worse. If only they would expel Iraqi diplomats, but no....they had to destroy the entire nation and the people too based on lies.

greenskeeper carl's picture

Iraq may have been worse, because a whole lot of people died, but just because this hasn't gotten there yet, doesn't mean it won't. War with Russia would be immeasurably worse.


And of course something stinks. Obama, clinton, mccain, graham, the CIA all agree on something. Name ONE SINGLE THING this group has agreed on that hasn't been complete bullshit. These people suck. The fact that they agree on anything is all I need to know its not true.

Handful of Dust's picture

As long as those Russian agents return my TV remote I'll forgive them. I know FOR SURE they took it. I have anonymous credible unnamed sources......

Holy hand grenade of Antioch's picture
Holy hand grenade of Antioch (not verified) Handful of Dust Dec 31, 2016 12:04 PM

Lingering greasy KFC odor in the White House walls... Now that's GOTTA stink!

philipat's picture

And Assange, the only person who really knows who leaked the emails, has said on several occasions that the leak was not from Russia. Which the MSM has chosen to ignore. And the only other person who knows for sure is now dead. Situation normal...

zeronetwork's picture

It looks like American are still using abacus for calculations because I never heard American hackers did any thing ever! Most peaceful people on the planet earth are the people who control the information perhaps.

Krungle's picture

Craig Murray has already come out and said that he received the leak from a source in a DC park and passed them to Wikileaks. He's an ex-UK ambassador, so he has at least a modicum of credibility. No one has bothered to interview him, nor have the feds bothered to bring him in for questioning. Assange's hints as to the identity of the leaker point to Seth Rich, who's murder seems to be a cold case that no one is interested in following up on. Just like no one is bothering to follow up on the actual hacking from DHS IPs into state election systems, nor the actual hacking of the vote in Democratic strongholds in Detroit that were turned up in that recount. And the actual foreign hacking that occurred into Hillary and Huma and Weiner's computers have not been publicly investigated. 


Bay of Pigs's picture

Which means this entire "Russia did it" narrative is complete bullshit.

BennyBoy's picture


Fake Accusations require Fake News stories to live.

booboo's picture

Check under the coffe table, I know the is a standard FSB hiding place. They hide my 1 sock of mine there at least once a week, sneaky bastards.

Theosebes Goodfellow's picture

~"War with Russia would be immeasurably worse."~

I'd like to think that the President of the United States would be above such notions as to fabricate a story just because he doesn't like the outcome of an election. But then I say to myself, "Wait, this is Obama. Lying is all he knows."

There is no depth of depravity that man will not sink to. Including starting a nuclear war.

ThirteenthFloor's picture

"The men who create power make an indispensable contribution to the Nation’s greatness, but the men who question power make a contribution just as indispensable, especially when that questioning is disinterested, for they determine whether we use power or power uses us."


Never let power use us.

dogsandhoney2's picture

nah, he has the weeny banker iron clad defense... memory lapse and plausible deniability. works everytime-- since reagan.

RiverRoad's picture

His lyin' jive talkin' tongue will hang him for sure.

CuttingEdge's picture

Not Russian.

Saudi Arabian.

The Wahhabi Candidate.

algol_dog's picture

When both sides are agreeing you can be sure the fix is in. The boy'zz must really be getting worried now ....

RiverRoad's picture


Most massive cover-up for a failed presidency ever.

29.5 hours's picture

<<Where the hell is the evidence?>>

Agree. The imperial Deep State are not overly concerned about offering reason or evidence for their decisions. This argument by the elite mouthpieces that the big bad U.S. OF A is nothing but a mere victim of outsider plots is infantile and another step forward toward war.


WTFRLY's picture

That stench you smell is the Joo World Order

espirit's picture

Poo flinger in charge trying to see what sticks.

Free Man's picture


Fake News Versus No News
How Russia is pilloried while real news about Israel goes unreported

And of course Israeli immigration laws allow Jews Only while Zionists demand massive immigration into Europe and the USA.

also see:
"Jewish groups get up to 97% of grants from the Homeland Security"

Zionist Wikipedia Editing Course
The Zionist attempt to control language.
The commander behind the pro-Israel student troops on U.S. college campuses
Israel tech site paying “interns” to covertly plant stories in social media
Israeli students to get $2,000 to spread state propaganda on Facebook

Not to mention that every US taxpayers "loan" that 'Israel' receives has never been paid back. The Israeli Occupied Congress curiously "forgives" all these huge debts. As if it wasn't assumed at the beginning.

Let's not mention the vast sums they receive from 'Homeland Security to do much of the spying.

"Jame Bamford of Wired subsequently reported that the NSA had hired secretive contractors with extensive ties to Israeli intelligence to establish 10 to 20 wiretapping rooms at key telecommunication points throughout the country."
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/the-impact-of-nsa-domestic-spying-2013-6#...
"Two Secretive Israeli Companies Reportedly Bugged The US Telecommunications Grid For The NSA"
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/israelis-bugged-the-us-for-the-nsa-2013-6...
"IDF Unit 8200 Cyberwar Veterans Developed NSA Snooping Technology"
Read more:http://www.richardsilverstein.com/2013/06/08/idf-unit-8200-cyberwar-vete...


Ignatius's picture

A Deep State attempt to supplant the infallibility of the Pope with the infallibility of the government press release and the MSM.

This is why Hillary supporters freaked out:  Trump's victory is an assault on their new secular religion of political correctness.

Fortunately, we seem to be well armed for the Twitter Wars.  Thank Mish same as you'd honor any veteran.

DeadFred's picture

Mish is a bit miffed that he wasn't included in the list of Russian propaganda sources though :(

DeadFred's picture

They know they only have weeks left before the cazn kicking come to an end. Whatever their reasoning is it involves something yet to come to light. Some sort of false flag come to mind but I'm paranoid.

prefan4200's picture

DeadFred - I'm paranoid too, I do not trust Obama at all. The worst case false flag I'm thinking of is an EMP (or multiple EMPs) set off over the US by one or more of Obama's hand-picked generals, thus crippling the US and providing blame-it-on-the-Russians cover for Obama to activate the nuclear football. Or for mosques all around the US to hand out their gun caches to the terrorist-immigrants and wreak very personal holy hell on US citizenry. Or both.... one near-certainty - something evil this way comes.

MiddleLeg's picture

Bob Noyce used to say 'be very, very paranoid'.

Between now and jan 20, I'm thinking of an ICBM dropped on east Baltimore, a few thousand victims. As the smoking gun, a few blocks away Putin's driver licence is found, perfectly intact with his own signature and fingerprints.

Perfect casus belli, martial law, Obama stays in office. Alternatively, Trump debuts as commander-in-chief with a very hot potato in his hands.  

"That's not the way the world really works anymore. We're an empire now, and when we act we create our own reality."

bigkahuna's picture

When a network intrusion happens of any importance whatsoever - an investigator is brought in to examine the "forensic evidence" including the (system) logs that show how the attacker got in and what information and network segments were compromised.

If there is enough data to make an attribution to a source, then they go after that source in a court with evidence. In this instance, they can go after the source diplomatically.

The only reoccurring problem with this all is that THERE IS NO EVIDENCE!!!!!!!!  THERE IS NO EVIDENCE!!!!!!!

Kidbuck's picture

There is evidence. The evidence proves our faggot in chief and his bath house buddies in the "intelligence" community are dishonest and ignorant of all matters IT and juvinile.

American Gorbachev's picture

yep, this time next year look for "polls" showing almost as large a % of 'respondents' saying 'the russians hacked/stole the election' as were saying a decade ago that 'saddam was behind 9/11'

the 'big lie'/squid ink works

(in the abe lincoln sense of "you can fool some of the people ALL of the time"... and that's all the ptb need

angry_dad's picture
angry_dad (not verified) Dec 31, 2016 10:04 AM

When will worthless obama actually tell the gringos what happened?

What was hacked?

There is NO PROOF the russian hacking ever happened?

The crooked candidate's loss was the result of the dems fielding the worst and most corrupt nominee ever.

Obama's jaw boning about meaningless red herring issues ends in less than a month



Frankly Speaking's picture

Sadly, the effen monkey has more than one hand grenade.


boattrash's picture

...and sadly, you are correct. One of those extra grenades is the MSM, which will likely broadcast every word he spews, even after he's out.

espirit's picture

The stench of the poo will gradually fade after the cleanup.

For the Msm, not so much.

Posa's picture

Yeah. But it's making America hate the MSM even more than they already do... so it's all very counter-productive... all the while boosting Trump's stock.

dark fiber's picture

Breaking news.  Obama's teddy bear set on fire, Russian passport, Spetsnaz dog tags found at the scene.  Watch live on CNN.

SoDamnMad's picture

OMG OMG  I heard a plane overhead. I think it's more of those Russian special forces attacking the campgrounds nearby. And yesterday I saw a funny looking truck driving up and down the street. It was camoflage brown and said UPS. Do you think it's one of those S-400 missile units. OMG I think this is the end of the world.  I have to lockthe doors and run to the cellar. 

flaminratzazz's picture
"Something Stinks" - Like Iraq WMD Fiasco, Russia Story Doesn't Add Up


lol understatement of the year..

Rich Stoehner's picture

I know, I read headline and was like "DUH!"

Posa's picture

Yup and polls indicate the broad US public is not falling for any of this neo-WMD crap... like Putin, we're all waiting for time to expire and many of these turds will disappear from the scene and all trappings of office that go with that... starting with the Head Turd, Barry Hussein Obama.

Putin has de-escalated things as well. Smart move.

hibou-Owl's picture

The only thing that Stinks is the Brown Clown.

Any hacker is way smarter than this piece of crap, it was probably a seven year kid having a laugh.

blindman's picture

it is all on weiner's lap top.
if you have the courage and stomach for it
, look there.

chunga's picture

The Russians took that too!

This is forensic! Its indisputable: Former CIA operative slams Trump for dismissing Russian hacks


I'd love to troll these little snowflakes but you can't. It's heavily censored and moast of the comments are FAKE LOL!

blindman's picture

the term 'former cia operative', that is as
reliable as 'thief in the night'. if they
said that a known and captured thief in the night
'swore it to be true' it would have greater
credibility. some people are so unintelligent.
let me review for the pundits and mainstream
prestitutes. the cia and their operatives
lie, cheat, steal and kill for their financial
survival and the profits of their bankster paymasters.
that is what they openly do, everyone
already knows this. now, they would call the average
person who knows this somehow corrupted or dim for
applying simple logic and concluding that what these
people say is always questionable and frequently
outright misdirection and or lying. it is a symptom of
the idiocracy the press has become.
best to you and have a happy new year my friend.

Intelligence_Insulter's picture




Mainstream media is going all kamakazi.  A divinely stinky wind blows comrades!



flaminratzazz's picture

You veel hate Russia because ve tell you to.

sign zee papers