Masses Shocked By Philly Beverage Tax Impact

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Submitted by Jim Quinn via The Burning Platform blog,

Check out this receipt and you realize why the country just elected Donald Trump. Liberal Democrat scumbag mayor Jim Kenney and his entirely Democrat city council thought it was a brilliant idea to ram a beverage tax down the throats of Philadelphians last year. They were doing it for the chilruns. It’s always for the chilrun. The ignorant masses bought the load of bullshit because they don’t understand maff. They understand it now. The tax went into effect on January 1 and the sticker shock is infuriating the ignorant masses.

 

This receipt for a 10 pack of flavored water shows a 51% beverage tax. It gets even better. PA has a sales tax of 6%. Philly already charges another 2% (for the chilruns) to make the sales tax 8%. These bastards now charge the 8% on the original price plus the beverage tax. Last week this purchase came to $6.47. Today it is $9.75.

Now ask yourself, who drinks the most sugary drinks? That’s right. Obese uneducated poor people who are likely to be scraping by on food stamps or very low incomes. Kenney and his liberal minions have fucked over their main voters. This tax is going to drive grocery purchases outside the city and hurt small restaurant owners. It isn’t benefiting kids. It’s funding the bloated pensions of teachers and government employees. Overall tax revenue will decline. Democrats are complete idiots when it comes to economics. Taxing their people to death is destroying Philly.

 

As a side note, PA, which already had the highest gas tax in the country, increased it by another 8 cents per gallon on January 1. I’m sure the corrupt PA Dept of Transportation will spend the millions wisely on bloated union construction contracts for sub-par work that is only two years late getting completed. Happy New Year from Taxylvania!!!!

Philadelphia rang in the new year with a controversial new beverage tax on soda and other sugar-sweetened drinks. The tax, which went into effect on Sunday, is the first one of its kind in a major city in the United States.

While the tax is technically 1.5 cents per ounce, which doesn’t sound too terrible, when buying a 10-pack of 20 oz bottles those numbers climb pretty quickly. In this case, a 10-pack of Propel flavored water that originally retailed for $5.99 had an additional three dollars tacked on to it in taxes.

Chuck Andrews picked up a $1.77 gallon jug of tea, got home and looked at his receipt.

“When I read the receipt I’m like, ‘Wait a minute. I paid more in tax than I did for the product,'” Andrews said.

The tax on the $1.77 gallon of tea was $1.92 cents.

“Which is OK if you had told me,” he said.

Andrews’ point is he would rather have the full cost, the product and the tax inclusive, posted on the main shelf tag.

A customer at a Save-A-Lot on Woodhaven Road snapped a picture of a 12-pack of diet green tea and the price surge of what normally costs $4.99. It’s now $8.03.

The money generated from the tax will help fund Mayor Jim Kenney’s Pre-K program.

“I understand that the school systems need money, but there’s other ways to go about it than to make such a drastic increase on soda,” Elena Porsch of South Philadelphia said.

The mayor’s office tells Action News, “The tax is on the distribution of sweetened beverages from companies like Coca-Cola to dealers like supermarkets, and because it’s not a sales tax… distributors don’t have to pass it on to customers.”

Small businesses like Franzones in Manayunk have already been getting an earful from customers about the higher prices and wonder what this will mean for their future.

“The businesses take a hit with profits, the customers take a hit with payment, and it’s kind of a lose-lose in Philadelphia with this tax,” Mike Maziarz of Franzones said.

Many people are saying they will go out of Philadelphia rather than pay the tax. Others say they will change what they buy.

“So now I know. I’m buying water, water, water,” Carl Saulsbury of North Philadelphia said.

It’s also important to note, if grocery stores purchased these taxable beverages last week from their distributors, then the soda tax wouldn’t apply. But if the beverages were purchased on the first of January or after, it would.

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Philadelphia is not alone. As the WSJ adds, Bay Area voters in San Francisco and Oakland also approved a penny-per-ounce tax on sugary beverages, the same rate as Berkeley’s. And Boulder, Colo., residents, approved the nation’s steepest soda levy, at two pennies an ounce—or a $1.35 extra—for a two-liter bottle. Those taxes are taking effect in coming months.

“They represent a new frontier of tax policy,” said Scott Drenkard, director of state projects for the Tax Foundation, a think tank that favors lower taxes. Soda taxes, he said, are “very stark examples of state and local governments using the tax code to influence nutrition choices, which are by definition very personal.”

Supporters of the taxes say the levies encourage people to drink healthier beverages. Instead, the newly implemented surcharges will likely just lead to a lot of very angry (sur)taxpayers.
 

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localsavage's picture

If the stores were smart, they would have the tax clearly labeled on the shelf price.  Then, they would have contact info available to take home.

LowerSlowerDelaware_LSD's picture
LowerSlowerDelaware_LSD (not verified) localsavage Jan 4, 2017 4:19 PM

So producers pay taxes, to pay for EBT cards, to pay for the taxes on shit. That requires a LOT of gubmint "workers" to administer.

And... "It's for the children..." (Show starving child on the street here.)

AllTimeWhys's picture

AYE YO! IT'S ALL FOR THE CHILRENS! IF YOU DUN LIKE IT, DEN YOU RAYCISS

SilverRhino's picture

Putting the beverage tax in perspective to another Sugar Tax 

 

Purpose of the Sugar Act
The Purpose of the Sugar Act of 1764 was to:

  • Reduce the rate of tax on molasses from six pence to three pence per gallon - but ensured the new tax could be collected by increased British military presence and controls
  • Establish British admiralty courts for tax violators where a judge decided the outcome rather than in colonial courts
  • Regulate the trade by effectively closing the legal trade to non-British suppliers. The Act was designed to stop trade between New England and the Middle colonies with French, Dutch, and Spanish in the West Indies
  • Provide for the seizure of cargoes violating the new rules
  • Reduce the practice of smuggling bribery, intimidation and corruption in the colonies which were used to avoid paying taxes
  • The act taxed more foreign goods including wines, coffee, cambric and printed calico
  • Timber and iron were also included in the products that could be traded only with England
Joe Davola's picture

'Soda' - aka pop to those of us in the hinterlands of PA.

Back in the 70's it was common to see 'Welcome to Pennsylvania, the land of Taxes' bumper stickers and plates on the front of vehicles (license plates on the back only in PA).  I won't even mention the number of 'Get the US out of the UN' signs you'd see in front yards.  Hopefully PA's move to the right will be enough to oust do nothing Casey Jr. from the senate in 2 years.

TeethVillage88s's picture

Propaganda... wasn't it PA, "You have a Friend in Pennsylvania"

Joe Davola's picture

That was the slogan on the license plates - I think it beat out "Come for the potholes, stay for the shoofly pie".

NoDebt's picture

You guys now understand why I keep you up to speed on the goings-on in PA and Philly in particular.  It's a fucking circus of corruption and stupidity.  It's like taking the nanny tactics of Bloomberg in NYC and combining it with the unbridled one-party-town corruption of Chicago.

You think California or New York is bad?  They got NOTHING on PA and particularly Philadelphia.

Oh, and if you think this "soda tax" is so stupid that it's sure to be repealed- think again!  In all likelihood they will make it statewide next.

 

Vatican_cameo's picture

 

They should enact a "Stupidity Tax", the Federal Deficit would be gone in a month.

The Saint's picture
The Saint (not verified) The Merovingian Jan 4, 2017 5:29 PM

Ha ha ha ha ha!!  The people of Philli must be SOOOOOO stupid to let their politicians get away with this.   Why not just give the government your virginity too, morons?  And maybe your first born.

These stupid people deserve every smash mouth tax their government slaps on them!

 

The Saint's picture
The Saint (not verified) The Saint Jan 4, 2017 5:50 PM

Oops.  I must have upset one of the Neanderthals living in Philli.  Sorry.  Nothing personal. :~)

 

Manthong's picture

I am seriously considering rushing to Philadelphia with a large load of tar, feathers, pitchforks and torches.

By rights, I should sell out in minutes.

nmewn's picture

We'll be right behind you with two semi's full of "sugary drinks" ;-)

jeff montanye's picture

well you better tax it if you sell it (what about giving it away?).

from the story, as opposed to the comments, i would guess that the democrats here, even though they might know nothing about economics, may just get the results they want.

the customers seem more pissed about not knowing the full price when they grabbed the product.  that has probably already been fixed by the merchants.

and the one customer quoted is buying water, water, water.

reminds me of cigarettes: put on warnings, raised the price mercilessly, closed bars and restaurants to "second hand smoke". use fell from 42% in '65 to 18% in '13.

 

Al Armed's picture

42% to 18%, huh? Yippee! So now, instead of a bunch of people cost-effectively dying of lung cancer at 65 we have them expensively hanging on and dying of muliple systems failures at 95--95 years living under the wagging finger of Puritan scolds rather than 65 years in a society that can actually tolerate the public indulgence of pleasure.

effendi's picture

If you want to get a hacking smokers cough then smoke your shit well away from those of us who don't want to put up with the stink and the threats to our health; it isn't just a fucking Puritan scold but a risk of you giving us and our loved ones cancer, emphaysema, asthma attacks, dermatitis etc from secondary and tertiary smoke. As any Libertarian knows our rights only extend as far as the point where we are infringing on the rights of others. Plus most smokers spend decades in declining health from their 30s and far too many end up on the public welfare by their 50s.

TheReplacement's picture

You are such a pussy and a dipshit for believing the propaganda.  Don't like the smoke?  Get the fuck out.  Something most fake libertarians don't seem to get.

NoPension's picture

I'd rather laugh with the sinners, than die with the saints.

nmewn's picture

It was taxed when I bought it in a different state, I see no justification for it to be taxed again.

I mean outside of Pennsylvania's Sheriff of Nottingham love of taxation ;-)

stormsailor's picture

i believe the article neglected to mention that they imposed double taxes on tar,feathers,pitchforks, torches,  and intelligence

soyungato's picture

Why not rush to Philadelphia with a large load of sugar drink bought elsewhere and sell it a dollar cheaper than they do , make a lot of money that way fast.

TheReplacement's picture

Pet rocks for sale.  Buy one and get a free soda.

Fuck the man.

Arnold's picture

No, western Pa.

Saint, the pride in you cesspit is telling sometimes.

The Saint's picture
The Saint (not verified) Arnold Jan 4, 2017 8:24 PM

Pride cometh before the .....   Oh, wait, what am I talking about!

 

scsherman's picture
scsherman (not verified) The Saint Jan 4, 2017 7:52 PM

The voters of Philadelphia are extremely stupid because they are mostly black. All the white people left decades ago. Of course they live in the surrounding counties and commute in every day, but their votes don't count for things like this. Although most of them are now white guilt liberals and would likely have gone along with it anyway.

jeff montanye's picture

you might note that your last sentence slyly contradicts your first sentence. 

you could consider cutting out the tie to the original post and just going with "blacks and liberals are stupid".

soyungato's picture

There are bright and stupid people in every race so save your comment about blacks to yourself. 

In all these 45 years I lived in the US, I have never encountered a hostile black folk but I have had plenty very bad experience with whites  - from white trash on the street to intelligent whites at our university. 

not dead yet's picture

Your cities are occupied by "educated" do gooders who get fulfilment in their lives by getting government to enact laws that make them happy. Dealing with people on the social level is not in their makeup so they resort to government. They can now pat themselves on the back and go to sleep at night in their safe spaces knowing they saved countless people from "destroying themselves" by having a sugar drink. Next will be a donut cake and cookie tax. Now they are going after the pop companies themselves using the tactics they learned from the fake science AGW hoax claiming Coke and others knowingly lied about the effects of their products on peoples health. Never do these people consider that Americans are not getting fat from sugar or anything else but that Americans are just plain lazy and feeding their faces is the most exercise they get. These clowns are pushing to get pop machines removed from schools never giving a thought that eliminating or cutting back on recess and gym classes, lengthening the school day and year, requiring kids to start as early as 3 or 4, requiring 2 hours or more of homework every night, weekends too, has kids sitting for most of the hours in a day when they could be out playing burning calories. Instead of building muscle they are gaining fat cells and their overall physical and mental health are suffering too. Even some kindergartens, which used to be half days are now all day, are now giving homework and many kids claiming they only get recess at the end of the day just before they go home. We keep getting bombarded, and rightly so, about the bad effects on our bodies because we sit too much yet that never crosses the minds of the do gooders, educators, and parents when the kids health gets sacrificed for a failed system teaching intellectual bullshit instead of skills and problem solving. Then we get regulatory boondoogles like no child left behind or common core that do squat for education but a boon for hiring administrators and their fawning support staffs while throwing billions at consultants and testing companies. Must admit the current system is great at creating followers and discouraging the "wrong" type, read those have their heads in the real world, from becoming leaders.

On so many levels the US is getting totally screwed and if you think Trump will make a difference, I hope he can, you need to smoke better dope. The wacks that are out to destroy the soul of this country, and other countries too, and will continue to push their myriad of agendas through all levels of government and will also use community organizations like those funded by Soros and other rich billionaires, true believers embedded in government agencies, the courts, demonstrations, and all kinds of crap to get their way. They have the backing of the press and billionaires to destroy our society, and especially us deplorables who live in the real world, while the politicians especially the Republicans concentrate on pumping up the war machine and covert chaos agencies to spread death and destruction on the planet so as to remain the "one indespensible nation". We are being led to destruction by the IBI's. Intelligent but idiots. Our society is full of brainwashed people ready to join the battle to "save the country" with colleges full of snowflakes to back them up. If we look behind the scenes, not just the surface, the disaster that is Obama is a lot bigger than we realize. Trump is being set up as the fall guy for when everything falls apart, through no fault of his own, and the country turns to the facists and true Hitlerites, like Hillary, to save us from the bought and paid for mainstream media proclaimed impending doom.

BigJim's picture

First they came for the morons who drink soda. But I did nothing because I do not drink soda.

Then they came for the idiots who eat donuts. But I did nothing because I do not eat donuts.

Then they came for the buffoons who ate supermarket-bought cake made with GMO "wheat" and high fructose corn syrup. But I did nothing because I make my own cake at home out of organic ingredients with only a third as much sugar as the recipe calls for.

So I was alright.

Archibald Buttle's picture

that about sums it up. i regret that i have but one upvote to give for your dietary astuteness.

HedgeJunkie's picture

You're not telling us anything that we don't already know.

We've watched this closely for the last ten or so years.

Personally, I've been watching this since I woke up in 2008 and found Zero Hedge.  Posts and accompanying links from those much smarter than me pounded a few realities in my head back in 2008.  I think many are still around, just these days, we've been forced to assume persona non gratas nom de plumes rather than our familiar screen names.  I am OldPhart, currently aka Hedgejunkie.

Trump will be faced with overwhelming shit economically, socially, and politically.  If he wants to be effective, he will resort to the worse possibiliities...beyond the current Obamanation we're enduring.  Be very fuckin careful what you wish for.  Yes, I voted for him.  Mainly because he wasn't a criminal, fuckin cunt, feeding off the public trough for the last thirty years, that exposed state secrets, allowed men to die, lied contantly and was absolutely corrupt to the core.  But it was with trepidation.

Break out the triple tighty whities.  The landing on this bubble will have epic skidmarks.

 

Archibald Buttle's picture

was wondering what happened to OP. glad to see the feds didn't come for ya!

Mad Dog's picture

I remember Old Phart too. Where the hell have you been.

fleur de lis's picture

NIce to see you back.

Happy New Year.

bigkahuna's picture

Triple tighties are in place. Hopefully they are enough to keep my ass from getting skinned!

boattrash's picture

Saint, Surely you've heard of the Pizza Parties. I think the virginity and first born fall into that category.

Taint Boil's picture

Just in case anyone needs this:

James.Kenney@phila.gov

Just sent him a link to this article .... oops ..... hold on, a knock at the door [talking in the background] no I'm not interested in nail guns at this ti ... <snap snap snap ..... snap>

cbxer55's picture

HAHA. Ain't that the truth! We have a Stupid lottery in Oklahoma. Have for years. Stupid casinos as well. Don't do either. Never will. Not stupid enough I guess.

mayhem_korner's picture

They already did...it's called the lottery.

chiquita's picture

They should enact a "Stupidity Tax", the Federal Deficit would be gone in a month.

 

Come on, that would be unfairly penalizing Florida

Supafly's picture

She should just drink tap water and invest the savings in a good manicure.

garcam123's picture

People need to respond by taking a razor knife  with them and make the whole thing a fucking mess, until they get the message.  People in revolt is the only thing that will get attention. Whentheir shit is on the floor no one is going to buy it. Fucking thieves....manufacturers and the skimsucking government.

chiquita's picture

Philly's history is classic--when a third of City Council can retire for one day, start collecting their full pension, and come back to work full time at full pay and it's legal, that's the height of corruption and stupidity.  The Democrat kind!

Aloysius Snuffleupagus's picture

Duh. You can't buy a 6 pack at the same place you can buy a case (or some such idiotic thing) but you're damn sure paying a tax for a flood that happened over 100 years ago.

max2205's picture

Better than 8% moar property tax.  Schools don't need the money they just need to fire the over paid employees 

SoDamnMad's picture

Philadelphia voted heavily for Hillary so this must be a good thing.  People will obviously switch to better, more healthy items like... leaded city water.

chubbar's picture

How the fuck is it possible that someone is so fucking dumb that they would make the statement that because the tax is on the distributor, they don't have to pass it along to the consumer??? Seriously, no one should be allowed into gov't who hasn't run a business. How can we have such clueless fuckers in these positions of power?

Robert Trip's picture

What color are the clueless legislators?