The "Russian Hacking" Story Changes Again

Tyler Durden's picture

Today at 9:30 am, senior U.S. intelligence officials face questions at a Senate hearing that will be dominated by the intelligence community's assessment that Russia meddled in the presidential election to help Donald Trump win. Participating will be James R. Clapper, Jr., Director Of National Intelligence. Marcel J. Lettre II, Under Secretary Of Defense For Intelligence and Admiral Michael S. Rogers, USN, Commander, United States Cyber Command. 

The Armed Services Committee's cyber threats hearing on Thursday comes a day before the president-elect is to be briefed by the CIA and FBI directors — along with the director of national intelligence — on the investigation into Russia's alleged hacking efforts. Trump has been deeply critical of their findings, even appearing to back controversial WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange's contention that Russia did not provide him with hacked Democratic emails.

The committee's session is the first in a series aimed at investigating purported Russian cyber-attacks against U.S. interests and developing defenses sturdy enough to blunt future intrusions. "We will obviously be talking about the hacking, but the main thing is the whole issue of cybersecurity," the committee's Republican chairman, Sen. John McCain of Arizona, said ahead of the hearing. "Right now we have no policy, no strategy to counter cyberattacks."

More importantly, however, the hearing comes hours after Reuters reported overnight that U.S. intelligence agencies obtained what they considered to be conclusive evidence after the November election that Russia provided hacked material from the Democratic National Committee to WikiLeaks. However, in the latest change of the narrative, this time the allegation is that Russia provided the hacked data through a third party, three U.S. officials said on Wednesday.

Wikieaks was quick to highlight that according to the report, US officials admitted that the Wikileaks "source" was not Russia, and that the goal posts now shifted to the source's source:

In keeping with the theme of providing no proof to the general public, the officials declined to describe the intelligence obtained about the involvement of a third-party in passing on leaked material to WikiLeaks, saying they did not want to reveal how the U.S. government had obtained the information. So just trust them, please.

The shift in the narrative is curious because as a reminder, officials had concluded "months earlier" that Russian intelligence agencies had directed the hacking, but had been less certain that they could prove Russia also had controlled the release of information damaging to Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton. It now appears that along with lack of evidence, the attention has shifted to an "intermediary" as being the responsible party .

In an interview with Fox News, WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange said he did not receive emails stolen from the DNC and top Hillary Clinton aide John Podesta from "a state party." Assange did not rule out the possibility that he got the material from a third party.  

Trump on Wednesday sided with Assange and again questioned the U.S. intelligence community's conclusion that Russia tried to help his candidacy and hurt Clinton's.

Concern by U.S. officials over the hacking first spiked in August, when intelligence agencies concluded that Russian intelligence, with the direction of President Vladimir Putin, had been trying to disrupt and discredit the presidential and congressional elections. Obama in August rejected recommendations from some of his advisors to disclose the Russian link and take some limited covert action as "a shot across Putin's bow to knock it off," one official with knowledge of the matter said. Instead, Obama warned Putin privately, arguing that a similar private message to Chinese President Xi Jinping had reduced Chinese hacking into U.S. agencies and companies.

Ultimately, the additional intelligence informed U.S. President Barack Obama's decision to retaliate on Dec. 29 by expelling 35 suspected Russian spies and sanctioning two Russian spy agencies, four intelligence officers and three companies, a decision that capped four months of debate at the White House about how to respond.

So far not a shred of evidence has been provided confirming the Kremlin's involvement in the matter, aside from some Ukrainian malware code exposed in a 13-page joint DHS/FBI report which could be purchased by anyone online.

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Looney's picture


During the Senate Hearing, all those slimy spooks will be sworn in. It would be fun watching them wiggle.  ;-)


NoDebt's picture

Alternate narrative (for fun):  All of this "Russian Hacking" shit turns out to be true.  Obama's FINALLY seen things clearly and is taking appropriate action for the first time in his presidency.  But this time nobody believes him because he's the boy who cried "wolf" too many times.  He's lied so much nobody wants to hear jack shit from him any more.


Wow72's picture

Credibility:  Something that is earned over time.

Shemp 4 Victory's picture


In keeping with the theme of providing no proof to the general public, the officials declined to describe the intelligence obtained about the involvement of a third-party in passing on leaked material to WikiLeaks, saying they did not want to reveal how the U.S. government had obtained the information. So just trust them, please.

Good thing we can completely trust the integrity of 17 Intelligence Agencies® because this explanation is exactly what a corrupt and politicized institution would use to try to pass off a completely fabricated story as legitimate.

Tarzan's picture

Would this third party happen to be a disgruntled DNC insider named seth rich?

MalteseFalcon's picture

It's like arguing with a teenager.

You catch them in a lie, and debunk it.

The teenager processes the debunking and alters the lie to conform with the "new truth".

The iterations continue until you give up or simply "ground" the punk.

And who are these 17 intelligence agencies?

Will they all be called to "Songbird" McCains hearing?

Will the hearing end before Songbird keels over from old age?

CuttingEdge's picture

"Dissolve the CIA"

The Langley gym swimming pool filled with hydrochloric acid, maybe?

Works for me, as long as that evil cunt Morell is first in.

CuttingEdge's picture

Just imagine Friday's meeting if Trump actually knows who lifted the DNC files?

Only, judging by the way he is playing this thus far in being openly dismissive of anything put forward, that may very well be the case.

To have the entire combined intel machine by the balls without them knowing, as they project their politicised billion dollar that would be a beautiful thing to behold.

Joe Davola's picture

Looking at some of the 'information' from previous hacks

1.  Sony - claimed to be North Korea

2.  DNC/Clinton email - claimed to be Russia

3.  Various - claimed to be China

4.  Iranian centrifuges - no claims, but pretty good indication it was CIA/NSA/Israel

Now, who from that list didn't want HRC to be president.  One could make a compelling case that #4, particularly Israel, would go this route and have the wherewithall/foresight to make it look like #2 - and Obama/Kerry allowing the UN vote to go through as punishment.  Or, we can believe #2 was sloppy (or intentionally sloppy to send a message/rub our noses in it).  Or, it was some 14 year old operating from their parents basement - nah, no 14 year old would think of covering their tracks to make it look like someone else.

BennyBoy's picture


Accusations and allegations need time to be crafted and refined.

What don't you understand about propaganda?

Or professional lying?

tazs's picture
tazs (not verified) BennyBoy Jan 5, 2017 11:58 AM

Obama's "Russia Hacked The Election" is CODE for "Trump Stole The Election."

Manthong's picture I suppose that the DNC insider that leaked the Emails to WikiLeaks was thinking about Russia when he did it so that means Putin really did it.

jeff montanye's picture

thought crimes are where you find them, ask the catholic church.

seriously though, john mccain is an asset of the mossad.  no other formation does it justice:

"We will obviously be talking about the hacking, but the main thing is the whole issue of cybersecurity," the committee's Republican chairman, Sen. John McCain of Arizona, said ahead of the hearing. "Right now we have no policy, no strategy to counter cyberattacks."

check this shit out (my bold): Guilt By Association: How Deception and Self-Deceit Took America to War

By Jeff Gates, State Street Publications, 2008, paperback, 320 pp. List: $27.95; AET: $18 (if you really want to understand why this is going on, read.on; others be assured it is true.).

In his chapter on “John McCain and the Financial Frauds,” Gates reviews McCain’s unsavory role in the “Keating Five” scandal. The following chapter recounts the shameful role of McCain’s father in helping to cover up Israel’s deliberate attack on the USS Liberty during the 1967 Six-Day War in which 34 of the crew were killed and 294 wounded. “From a game theory perspective,” Gates explains, “by covering up the murder of Americans aboard the USS Liberty, a U.S. president (with the aid of Admiral John McCain, Jr.) confirmed that Israeli extremists could murder Americans without endangering U.S. support.”

Reviewed by Andrew I. Killgore


GUILT BY Association is an initially confusing masterpiece almost too stuffed with evidence to concentrate on making clear its basic theme. But author Jeff Gates did so in a recent letter to a distinguished retired American diplomat: “The research pivoted off the firsthand experience of ”˜John Doe’ whose experience spans 56 years of dealing with a transnational criminal syndicate whose senior operatives share a common ideology in fundamental Judaism and a skill set experienced in displacing facts with beliefs. Thus the common source of the fixed intelligence that took us to war in Iraq. And, thus the same network now being employed to expand this war to Iran.”

From 1980 to 1987 Gates served as counsel to the Senate Finance Committee, working with Sen. Russell Long of Louisiana, son of the state’s former Gov. Huey Long, who was assassinated at age 42 as he was preparing a presidential campaign. James Farley, postmaster general under President Franklin Roosevelt, had run a “penny postcard” poll confirming that if Huey Long actually ran for president, Roosevelt could not be re-elected. Fifty years later Russell Long remained convinced that Roosevelt’s people had killed his father.

At a 2002 speech Gates gave in London, he met “John Doe,” related to one of the well-known people who had endorsed two of Gates’ earlier books. Soon afterward, Doe assured him that if Gates undertook the research and analysis the results of which appear in Guilt, the evidence would identify who killed Huey Long, and why. The facts Gates assembled point not to Roosevelt’s people but to the syndicate identified in Guilt.

The brilliantly provocative Guilt by Association consists of nine chapters: “Game Theory and the Mass Murder of 9/11”; “Organized Crime in Arizona”; “John McCain and Financial Frauds”; “McCain Family Secret: The Cover-Up”; “The Presidency and Russian Organized Crime”; “Money, Democracy and the Great Divide”; “The New Anti-Semitism”; “Would Obama Be Better?”; and “The Way Forward.”

In the first chapter Gates illustrates the intergenerational sophistication with which neoconservatives “prepared the minds” of the American public to invade Iraq in response to 9/11. Academics and think tanks pushed Samuel Huntington’s 1996 Clash of Civilizations to promote a “clash consensus”—five years before 9/11. That same year Richard Perle along with other neocons such as Douglas Feith wrote “A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm” for incoming Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu. This helped lay more “mental threads” for removing Saddam Hussain. Then Senators McCain, Joe Lieberman, a Jewish Zionist from Connecticut, and Jon Kyl, a Christian Zionist from Arizona, co-sponsored the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998. Distracted by the Monica Lewinsky affair, President Bill Clinton signed it.

Four days after the destruction of the World Trade Towers, then Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz was urging President George W. Bush to invade Iraq. Not only was there was no evidence that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, but there was no real connection between Saddam’s secular regime and the deeply religious al-Qaeda. At the same time, other Zionists from the U.S. Defense Department under Wolfowitz and, not so coincidentally, Feith were feeding false intelligence to the White House. The war would not be costly, according to Wolfowitz, and the entirely unnecessary and illegal war was launched.

In the chapter on “The Presidency and Russian Organized Crime,” Gates describes a John McCain who was either “ignorant about—or complicit in” Russian organized crime. During Boris Yeltsin’s first term as president of Russia, a handful of “oligarchs’ financially pillaged Russia. Six of the “Big Seven” oligarchs, whom Gates terms Ashkenazis, qualify for Israeli citizenship.

McCain described Mikhail Khodorovsky, the most infamous of Russia’s corrupt oil oligarchs, as a “political prisoner.” Notes Gates: “To claim Khodorovsky as a ”˜political prisoner’ requires a closer look at how, at 32 years of age, a single Russian-Ashkenazi citizen amassed state-owned assets worth more than $30 billion.” Gates goes on to document the widespread criminality involved in Khodorovsky’s billions.

“To solve this systemic criminality,” Gates explains, “requires that a broad base of Americans understand how this ”˜fields-within-fields’ modus operandi operates unseen yet in plain sight, and how its operations progress working through people whose profiled needs become the means for influencing their behavior.”

Guilt describes how Americans were induced to freely choose the very forces that endanger their freedom. Thus the role of those masterful at waging “war by deception” (the motto of the Israeli Mossad) by displacing facts with what the “mark” (i.e., the U.S.) could be deceived to believe: for example, that Iraq had nuclear weapons and mobile biological weapons laboratories and that the secular Saddam Hussain had ties with the fundamentalists of al-Qaeda.

Crafted as a wake-up call, the author documents how Tel Aviv wields control over U.S. foreign policy in an environment where lawmakers have been intimidated by the Israel lobby. “U.S. national security,” Gates writes, “requires a rejection of the self-deception that Israel operates as a trustworthy ally in an unstable region while ignoring its multi-decade role in provoking and sustaining instability.”

As Gates points out, the charge of anti-Semitism is used to misdirect and intimidate. As the criminality he documents becomes transparent, moderate Jews in fact are emerging as allies. The Zionist component—which Gates convincingly portrays as ideology in the service of criminality—has as its goal an extensive, Jews-only realm in an oil-rich region.

The facts confirm that Tel Aviv will never agree to peace with the Palestinians, as that would preclude their expansionist agenda for a Greater Israel. An oft-employed “entropy strategy” remains Israel’s means to preclude settlement of the conflict. Indeed, Huntington’s Clash of Civilizations is revealed as only the latest in a long series of manipulations—each of which is designed to ensure a plausible evildoer. Meanwhile, fundamentalist Jews catalyze serial conflicts of opposites, while this transnational criminal syndicate profits off the misery of both.

Andrew I. Killgore is publisher of the Washington Report on Middle East Affairs.

America’s Defense Line: The Justice Department’s Battle to Register the Israel Lobby as Agents of a Foreign Government

By Grant F. Smith, Institute for Research: Middle Eastern Policy (IRmep), 2008, paperback, 340 pp. List: $14.95; AET: $11.

Reviewed by Delinda C. Hanley


The declassification on June 10, 2008 of long-secret Department of Justice (DOJ) documents is the springboard for Grant F. Smith’s latest book revealing the inner workings of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC). This ground-breaking study spotlights the Israel lobby’s key architect, Isaiah L. Kenen, and uncovers how he and subsequent Israel-firsters morphed from being openly registered as foreign agents, who should have remained employees of the Israeli Embassy’s Office of Information, into “American” domestic lobbyists for Israel, a far more benign, if dishonest, nomenclature.


Smith’s very readable book reproduces and analyzes the highly deceptive Foreign Agent Registration Act (FARA) filings Kenen made while he was still an employee of the Israeli government in New York. It proceeds on to the American Zionist Council (ACZ), the precursor organization where AIPAC gestated. Referencing internal DOJ records, the book painstakingly documents previously undisclosed attempts by the Justice Department and dissenting Jewish groups, including the American Council for Judaism, to close down Kenen’s Israeli-financed political propaganda operation—or to at least make it openly register and disclose its activities under FARA.


Thanks to Kenen’s efforts, AIPAC’s Zionist financial backers succeeded in laundering money, purchasing arms, smuggling stolen U.S. military hardware, and launching Israel’s nuclear and military weapons industries. They paid for some of it with tax-exempt “charitable” donations, though a far larger percentage came from U.S. tax-dollars—without ever having to come out of the shadows.


Coming 20 years after Kenen’s death, Smith’s book is a powerful reminder to readers about the effectiveness of stealth public relations and the importance of framing stories for the mainstream media. (Kenen also launched the Near East Report, AIPAC’s biweekly flagship publication, which is still a vital public relations tool for Israel.) This close examination of AIPAC’s birth and struggle for power is a valuable lesson about nascent foreign interest lobbies, prosecutorial discretion, and the subversion of the rule of law by political elites.


America’s Defense Line reads like a fascinating spy thriller or “who done it” that is hard to put down—until, that is, one remembers that AIPAC and its supporters are still at it—and, usually, getting away with it. (Stay tuned for the espionage trial of former AIPAC officials Steve Rosen and Keith Weissman.)


Readers of Smith’s book, perhaps alongside Jeff Gates’ Guilt By Association, will have all the history and information necessary to loosen AIPAC’s grip upon our nation once and for all—but only if we all insist that the rule of law once again become the law of the land.


Delinda C. Hanley is news editor of the Washington Report on Middle East Affairs.


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woody188's picture

I'm going to have to ask you to keep your posts to a managable size of something we might actually bother to read. Gracias!

delacroix's picture

maybe he was drinking vodka.

shovelhead's picture


Fuck off troll. Go find a trading program to sell.

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The Saint (not verified) BennyBoy Jan 5, 2017 11:59 AM

I think we have to wait and see what Trump says after his Friday briefiing.  The public hearing today isn't going to provide any useful information.  The full details are only going to be provided to the President Elect.


kommissar's picture

and WHY do we have a friday briefing??  because if you want to bury important info in the media you release it friday afternoon, preferably before a 3 day weekend.  it's not hard to figure out what trump will probably do, so they iced him.

auricle's picture

Podestas email password was figured out, just like Sarah Palins and countless hollywood types, and millions of everyday Americans. It happens all the time. This shitshow makes the intelligence agency's look like a propaganda agency and is infuriating to me as a citizen.

If this world is going to be more progressive then using propaganda to sway the electorate needs to be the first casualty of the past. 

jeff montanye's picture

welcome. it's true. study your last sentence and imagine how long it has been true.


Tarzan's picture

I'm imagining a rather docile demeanor, sitting across a long table, where Trump glares down with skeptical raccoon eyes.  I'm thinking the words BULL SHIT crosses Trump's lips at least once. 

Not the picture Schumer was describing....

Tarzan's picture

Just read that Tucker Carlson is taking over the 9pm Fox spot, from exiting Megan Kelly!

That's impressive. I think it's possible he's a genuine journalist, if such an animal still exists.

auricle's picture

He's a genuine journalist, only when they let him. It's no accident there are no journalists, only a bunch of script readers in the MSM? Perhaps it's the new trend, let each network have one person be the journalist, the rest analyists. 

y3maxx's picture

-Clapper is a lying felon.

The Gun Is Good's picture

LOL! Nice.

Thing is, dissolution still means a bunch of spooks and wet crew are around, and off payroll (well, save for black money accounts). Ideally, we assassinate the assassins. Our safety requires they be suicided along with their kin and the family dog. (Payback's a bitch.)

DjangoCat's picture

Much as I hate to say it, you may be right.  Private spooks in the pay of the giant squid would not be too good, although, would that really be any different from what we have now?

Winston Churchill's picture

Which family ?

Mormons are highly over represented in these agency's.

CheapBastard's picture

Well, at least we now know the Russian agents are behind all this. That lets my dog off the hook re: my missing homework.

beemasters's picture

The CIA probably received Iraq WMD's intelligence from a "third party" too.

Idaho potato head's picture

"Will the hearing end before Songbird keels over from old age" or before, if I am gonna hope why not hope big.

cali's picture

Exactly although Seth Rich was murdered right after that! His murder was blamed on robbery while nothing was stolen - just one of those things that happens from time to time involving the Clintons. Assange even stated that he received the DNC material from Seth Rich!

I'm surprised that Rogers is part of the gang briefing the committee because he went out of his way meeting with Donald Trump right after the election. Trump even asked him to stay in his post during his presidency. Shortly after that Brennan and Clapper wanted Rogers to be gone after accusing him of some shit that did not make sense. Why the turn around? Something is very screwy here!

I wonder what Craig Murray - UK ambassador to Uzbekistan - has to say snce he is the one picking up the material at the designated rendesvouz place by the intermediary and source of WikiLeaks expose!?

DjangoCat's picture

I call you on the statement "Assange even stated that he received the DNC material from Seth Rich!"

Wikileaks is dogmatic on the protection of sources.  Wikileaks did provide a reward of $20,000 for information leading to the arrest of Seth Rich's murderer, however.


MrBoompi's picture

You're correct, but Assange did offer $20,000 for information on Rich's murder.  One could infer this was Assange's way of telling us his murder is related to the leaked emails without technically divulging his source.  

CheapBastard's picture

I won't believe it until Kim Kardashian or George Clooney say it's so...or maybe if a group of celebrities gets up and condemns those nasty Russian agents.

cali's picture

Your question is absolutely valid! Assange said that the first batch of documents he published were given to him by a 'democratic staffer from the DNC'. After Seth was murdered - he offered the monies to find the murderer. I should have stated it that way in my comment. Be as it may Assange connected the dots for me when using the verbiage 'democratic staffer - DNC - Seth Rich - murdered. My bad!

Krungle's picture

You don't have to wonder since Craig Murray has said the source was domestic. That is the absurdity of this entire affair--we have the intermediary on record, a career diplomat, and no one has publicly questioned him. This whole thing is akin to the cops catching a white guy leaving a house with stolen goods, then they go into the house to investigate and find a dead body and there is another guy standing there with a smoking gun and then they decide not only to ignore the murder, they put out a warrant for a black guy who was nowhere near the crime, letting the original burgler off the hook too. That's how idiotic and off the trail of the important crimes these guys are. I mean why the hell are we not talking about the legit classified docs that Hillary allowed to be pilfered by multiple foreign (and probably domestic) sources anymore? Seems to me that is the actual crime.

neverforget's picture

Assange even stated that he received the DNC material from Seth Rich! (your words)

I have not heard this, it was stated by Alex Jones that in the interview with Haninity Assange said that I did not hear it 

Under the Caption its says Assange said it ....Untrue... but if you can provide a link it would help..



In Ze No's picture

I think it was the interview where Assange called into Hannity.  A week ago?  Everyone was questioning if it was really Assange on the phone.  

TheRideNeverEnds's picture

Regardless, I'm sure the sources source has at least a greater than 50/50 chance of finding Russia on a map therefore Putin was directly responsible for this.

bamawatson's picture

If any objections to the Electoral College vote are made, they must be submitted in writing and be signed by at least one member of the House and one Senator. If objections are presented, the House and Senate withdraw to their respective chambers to consider their merits under procedures set out in federal law

and that is what will occur tomorrow, preventing Congress from certifying electoral college vote

847328_3527's picture

I hope they are as honest as Colin Powell when he testified there were WMDs, 100% positive based on unnamed "credible sources."

How about we send Congressional children and cia children first into battle against the Russians if they feel so strongly about it.

Shemp 4 Victory's picture


I hope they are as honest as Colin Powell when he testified there were WMDs, 100% positive based on unnamed "credible sources."

Colon Bowel is currently digesting the data, processing the information, and is expected to push out some evidence any time now.

How about we send Congressional children and cia children first into battle against the Russians if they feel so strongly about it.

You mean like Stalin's son, who received no special privileges in the Red Army and was sent to the front to fight? You're not some kind of COMMIE, are you?

hound dog vigilante's picture


source = IceMan


...born to Mr. & Mrs. Man, a son, Ice...

Parrotile's picture

How about we send Congressional children and cia children first into battle against the Russians if they feel so strongly about it. <


Well, "someone's children" are already being sent to what could easily be the "Front Line" in a land battle against Mother Russia, and you can safely bet that none of these cannon-fodder will have families "with connections". THEIR children are all assured comfortable office jobs in the Pentagon, or similar.

logicalman's picture

Apparently, Mr. Clapper wiil tell the world the reason why Russia hacked the election NEXT WEEK!!??

Script writers will be doing overtime packaging the bovine excrement for public consumption!