In Shocking Move, Beppe Grillo Calls For UKIP Split, Urges Hook Up With European Federalist Liberals

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In a stunning post on his blog published on Sunday, the founder of Italy's Five-Star Movement (M5S), Beppe Grillo, said his political movement should cut ties with Nigel Farage's anti-EU UK Independence Party (UKIP) in the European Parliament, and seek a hook up with the European liberals led by European Federalist Guy Verhofstadt.

Should this unexpected switch go ahead, it could, according to Reuters, see 5-Star "enter mainstream European politics and move away from the anti-system fringes", a shift that might reassure other EU capitals that have grown uneasy about its rising popularity.

In his blog post, Grillo said in a post on his blog that since Farage had led Ukip to Britain voting to leave the EU, the two parties no longer shared common goals and he recommended leaving the Europe of Freedom and Direct Democracy (EFDD). “Recent events in Europe, such as Brexit, have led us to reconsider the nature of the EFDD group,” Grillo wrote. “With the extraordinary success of the leave campaign, Ukip achieved its political objective: to  leave the European Union.

In some ways the recommendation is forward-looking, and anticipates the departure of UK MEPs from the next legislature. As Grillo said “let’s discuss the concrete facts: Farage has already abandoned the leadership of his party and British MEPs will leave the European parliament in the next legislature. Until then, our British colleagues will be focused on developing the choices that will determine the UK’s political future.”

As The Guardian notes, Grillo and Farage forged an alliance over lunch in Brussels after 2014’s European elections, in which Ukip took the largest share of the vote in Britain and M5S came second in Italy after winning 17 seats. Both said at the time that the group was aimed at “restoring freedom and national democracy”, with Farage adding: “Expect us to fight the good fight to take back control of our countries’ destinies.”

However, since then Grillo said the two parties had only voted together around 20% of the time over the past 2-1/2 years. He added that UKIP had achieved its political goal when Britain voted last year to leave the European Union. "To stay in EFDD would mean we would face the next 2-1/2 years without a common policy objective," Grillo wrote.

Over two years later, the alliance appears to be over, and today Grillo wrote that his party was in talks with the Alliance of Liberals and Democrats for Europe (ALDE) and asked 5-Star members to back the initiative in an online ballot. In a move that would shockingly see his party mesh with European liberals, Grillo's blog post called an online referendum, scheduled for Sunday and Monday, on breaking away and instead forming a new group with the Alliance of Liberals and Democrats for Europe (ALDE).

ALDE is led by former Belgian prime minister Guy Verhofstadt, who is also the EU’s chief Brexit negotiator. He is a keen European federalist and his strong, pro-EU views would seem diametrically opposed with the eurosceptic 5-Star, which has previously ridiculed the liberal leader. Grillo also said he had also approached the Greens about a possible tie-up, but was rebuffed, adding ALDE was the only group willing to discuss an accord with his movement.

With ALDE’s 68 MEPs, the alliance could become the “third political force in the European parliament”, Grillo wrote. He said the two shared values linked to “direct democracy, transparency, freedom and honesty." They also seem to share a heretofore unannounced vision toward European unity, in contravention to what Grillo has professed during most of his political career.

A UKIP spokesman said not all 5-Star parliamentarians were happy. "While it's interesting that some 5-Star MEPs adamantly wish to stay in the EFDD group as adults, we wish them all the best whatever they do," the spokesman said.

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Grillo's apparent change of ideology has already led to a swift political response: 5-Star MEP Marco Zanni urged party members to reject the switch, while Grillo's opponents in Italy lambasted his strategic shift, with the anti-euro Northern League party calling ALDE the most pro-European party in parliament.

Northern League leader Matteo Salvini blasted the proposal saying "What a pity. (5-Star) is moving from the barricades to the comfy seats."

5-Star was founded in 2009 and had risen rapidly to become Italy's main opposition party. It does not fit into any clearly defined political ideology, focusing its energies primarily on denouncing corruption and political wrongdoing. It has repeatedly called for a referendum on Italy leaving the euro single currency, and has criticized EU policy making, but has said it does not seek Italy leaving the European Union.

Perhaps the proposal is merely a tactic to yield greater political leverage in Europe: Grillo said it was important for 5-Star to be part of an EU parliamentary group because that would give it greater visibility and influence. "Refusing to belong to a political group would mean ... not being able to work," he wrote.

He added that by forging an alliance with Verhofstadt, ALDE would become the third largest group in the EU parliament. "This means that in many cases we would hold the balance of power."

However, while the proposed move may lead to an expansion of Grillo's power in the European Parliament, it is unclear how this tactical ideological change would resonate among his voter base, and whether it will cost the M5S the loss of material support domestically.

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BaBaBouy's picture

EU is a total fecking mess, as the terrist attacks continue the people will be drawn to revolt ...

dark fiber's picture

Nah, just  a comedian.  As in overrated professional clown.

xythras's picture
xythras (not verified) Pinto Currency Jan 8, 2017 2:23 PM

He should have been in Jerusalem today. Fucking faggot clown.

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xythras (not verified) ----_- Jan 8, 2017 2:39 PM

EPIC FAIL ZeroHedge !!!

wildbad's picture

there is no honor amoung communists.

isn't this exactly why there should be no EU?

tying one'S country's fate to will o the wisp irrationals is not a good plan, especially when their country is circling the drain.

if italians want this guy fine.

i don't.

i did like his anti €U rhetoric but apparently that was just boozy hot air. see ya beppe

new game's picture

i'm guessing he has new ties with the ecb and has printed priveldges.

"every man has a price"...

One World Mafia's picture

They're highly skilled actors like Obama.  Even the wife and kids don't know who they really are.  You don't know till you catch them doing something.  When they have a public voting record, it must be thoroughly investigated but often isn't.

gatorengineer's picture

Italy cant stand on its on, and relies on ""Welfare"" from predominantly the Germans to survive.  This is fact.  Their banks are in shambles and the whole country will need to be "Bailed out" in the next few years.  Perhaps he realized have a good few years and then give the bill to the Germans?  I think that is sane.....

The central planners's picture

That would have made a good interpretation of his new down the bus movement.

Haus-Targaryen's picture

Funny how these assholes always go from being "Anit-EU" to "Pro-EU" seemingly without explanation.  

I wonder if its money, threats or a combination of the two. 

xythras's picture
xythras (not verified) bamawatson Jan 8, 2017 2:41 PM

Seems that all that NSA spying didn't spare him so TPTB have dirt on him.

Now DANCE PUPPET ! Just as Merkel did.


I always thought that NSA spying on EU was just for industrial espionaje and controlling the european puppets

peddling-fiction's picture

Our tax dollars at work.

Getting results.

The Chief's picture

Pizzagate, EU style. It isnt confined to the UK.

auricle's picture

money, power, prestige. Same as it ever was. 


walküre's picture

SPD Gabriel says that EU break-up is possible.


Time is on our side.

Twee Surgeon's picture

He's a Marxist doing Marxist things, that is all he ever was. He went to the Angela Merkel school of acting.

GreatUncle's picture

He took the money, fuck the people.

Vageling's picture

You've been with us (Europeans) long enough Haus to know what this means. Hammer, nail, hit it. Guy Europhile Verhoftstad. The MOAR EU orator. Fucking socialist scum. Pro-EU to the radical. Verhoftstadt is a choice that Italexic BS is.

The central planners's picture

The italian version of  Alexis Tsipras.

BaBaBouy's picture

Looks like He's had a few...

Kirk2NCC1701's picture

The guy woke up, with the head of a horse in bed with him.

Sooner or later politicians turn into dirty diapers, and the reason why both need to be changed regularly: You change them when the International Bankster Cartel gets to them.

Wulfkind's picture

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!!    WOOoooo  HOOoooo !!   LOL !!!


And you ass clowns thought that you and the Eurolosers could simply VOTE free-dumb back into your hands by voting in Trump and Farage and Beppo........  LOL !!!!   

c2nnib2l's picture

Hard to believe... 


what the fuck are they playing ?? he was just calling for ITALOEXIT

I Feel a little Qeasy's picture

You got that right.

I think they may lose funding, and that's part of the reason. Politician you see, therefor a scumbag.

floosy's picture

Wonder how much he cost to buy?  About 20 Billion Euros?

Devotional's picture

eh ... bribes do work.

Kaeako's picture

Beppe wants a people's Europe. Freedom, equality and justice for all. The Euro is of course a symbol of corporate oppression and has to be scrapped, but the Union is a tool for building a people's Europe. Beppe wants to take steps towards legitimacy.

crazzziecanuck's picture

The EU began as a coal and steel cartel back in the 1950s and expanded out to the blob it is today.

The fact that it's unresponsive to the needs of those outside this expansionistic cartel isn't surprising; it was conceived that way.  However, just because the EU was born of private interest price-fixing doesn't mean it has to stay that way.  To paraphrase Howard Zinn, the USA was not born of democracy or pluralism despite all the grande rhetoric that the education system and the mainstream narrative spews out.

Either change it, or scrap it.

rwe2late's picture


ha ha

let's join the Democrat party and support HRC

to gain "legitimacy".

GreatUncle's picture

Beppe wants a people's Europe. Freedom, equality and justice for all ...

Well he ain't getting it by staying because the EU does not recognise the wishes of populations.

Laughinggrizzley's picture

I wonder if he woke up this morning with a bloody nailgun in his bed....

trumpala's picture

Money prevails

yogibear's picture

Once the world bankster have a talk with these people they reverse their position.

Same thing occurred in Greece.

There must have been threats to his family.

SDShack's picture

They are called Permanent Hotel California Residents.

rwe2late's picture


double-talking Grillo might have an even sweeter affiliation with

the double-dealing Tsipras and Greek SYRIZA

or the two-faced Hollande and French pseudo-"socialists".

Kirk2NCC1701's picture

Politicians are like Diapers: They need to be changed (dumped or disposed) regularly.

NoPension's picture

Politicians are like diapers. They need to be changed regularly, for the same reason.


estebanDido's picture

 “direct democracy, transparency, freedom and honesty."   Direct democracy is poison to the world stablisment, it is the only way to go since representative ¨democracy¨ is pure fraud.

buzzsaw99's picture

pretty sure honesty has nothing to do with it.

estebanDido's picture

Honesty is irrelevant but direct demo is crucial. I have never seen a gov run by parties that ever worked except for themselves, they are easily bought. But who can buy everyone in a real direct democracy. 

buzzsaw99's picture

oh sure and all the anti eu supporters he has are just going to change their minds on his say so. he just made himself irrelevant.

Dr. Bonzo's picture

I wonder for how little he was bought.

Mass_hysteria's picture
Mass_hysteria (not verified) Jan 8, 2017 1:52 PM

Humans are simply disgusting filth. Don't trust human beings.