In Humiliation For Beppe Grillo, Pro-EU Liberal Group Blocks Alliance With 5-Star Movement

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In what may have been this weekend's biggest surprise, and one which some have suggested demonstrated Beppe Grillo's true nature, in a blog published on Sunday, the founder of Italy's Five-Star Movement (M5S) said his political movement should ditch Nigel Farage's anti-EU UK Independence Party (UKIP) in the European Parliament, and seek a hook up with the liberal pro-EU group Alliance of Liberals and Democrats for Europe, or ALDE, led by European Federalist Guy Verhofstadt, in an attempt to consolidated power in the European parliament.

For those unfamiliar ALDE is led by former Belgian prime minister Guy Verhofstadt, who is also the EU’s chief Brexit negotiator. He is a keen European federalist and his strong, pro-EU views would seem diametrically opposed with the eurosceptic 5-Star, which has previously ridiculed the liberal leader. Grillo also said he had also approached the Greens about a possible tie-up, but was rebuffed, adding ALDE was the only group willing to discuss an accord with his movement. With ALDE’s 68 MEPs, the alliance could become the “third political force in the European parliament”, Grillo wrote. He said the two shared values linked to “direct democracy, transparency, freedom and honesty." They also seem to share a heretofore unannounced vision toward European unity, in contravention to what Grillo has professed during most of his political career.

A UKIP spokesman said not all 5-Star parliamentarians were happy. "While it's interesting that some 5-Star MEPs adamantly wish to stay in the EFDD group as adults, we wish them all the best whatever they do," the spokesman said.

Sadly, what happened next to the 5-Star group was anything but the best. In fact, it was outright humiliation, because while 79% of M5S supporters endorsed the move in an internet vote on Sunday and Monday, it was the object of Grillo's affections, that crushed the M5S' hopes when Verhofstadt had to give up his plan only 20 minutes into a meeting with national delegations of his gorup on Monday evening.

Liberal MEPs rejected Verhofstadt's bid to obtain the Italian populist parties' support

“I have come to the conclusion that there are not enough guarantees to push forward a common agenda to reform Europe," he said in a statement. "There remain fundamental differences on key European issues, like the euro" the former Belgian prime minister added.

Quoted by EU Observer
, he said that "on issues of shared interest, such as the environment, transparency and direct democracy, the Alde Group and the Five Star Movement will continue to work closely together," however.

The MEPs' blockade is a setback for Verhofstadt who hoped to clinch the parliament's presidency as a compromise candidate against the conservative and socialist candidates.  It was also humiliation for Grillo, who did an unprecedented ideological U-turn, just to get precisely nothing out of it.

A vote on the unexpected Alde-M5S marriage was supposed to take place among the liberal group on Tuesday (10 January), but it quickly became clear on Monday that liberal MEPs considered the populist Italian party as going directly against their core values. Some liberal MEPs were struck by the notion that one of Europe's populist, anti-euro parties should become the biggest gathering within the pro-EU, federalist liberal group.

Several Alde member parties, in Finland, Denmark, Sweden and Estonia said they would not support M5S joining the group. Kaja Kallas, an Estonian MEP, told EUObserver website that the political differences between M5S and the liberals were too big.

"The biggest issue is the difference in policies, look at their antiglobalist, anti-Europe, nationalistic policies and what we stand for. They are anti-euro and supported Brexit, both of which are weakening the EU. We think all member state benefit from the union," Kallas said. She also voiced concern that with its 17 MEPs, M5S would become the biggest party within the Alde group and could set its tone, which would mean a fundamental change for the group.

Another faultline was that while liberal MEPs have voiced concern over Russian meddling in European affairs, Grillo's party supports lifting EU sanctions against Russia.

Finally, most liberal MEPs were kept in the dark during negotiations between Grillo and Verhofstadt, adding to the discontent about a possible merger. According to a leaked copy, the agreement between Verhofstadt and Grillo gave a role in the group leadership for the M5S in exchange for their support for the Belgian politician's bid for president, shedding light on previous negotiations between the two party leaders.

Meanwhile, humiliated suitor Grillo, tried to rebuild the same bridges he burned down just 24 hours earlier, and in a letter titled ‘Dear Nigel' posted on his blog on Monday, explained that M5S wanted to use the liberal group to achieve its shared goals with Ukip.

"The 5 Star Movement's battle has yet to come, and to win it we evaluated to go to another political group in the European Parliament because, in this way, we think we can deal with more concentration both, you and us, the next challenges,” he wrote in English.

"We can change this world,” he added.

Sadly, after today's fiasco and this weekend's ideological flip-flop, that is increasingly uncertain.

What will happen to the M5S MEPs is unclear. Before Alde turned down Grillo's offer to join, Farage had said in a statement that "Beppe Grillo will now join the Euro-fanatic establishment”.

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trumpala's picture

Banksters can buy easily such clowns.

xythras's picture
xythras (not verified) Haus-Targaryen Jan 10, 2017 4:35 AM

After the news that he's pro federalization, fuck him. .

If he looks like a faggot and speaks like a faggot..well you figure it out.

Even this little girl here has more balls than him

dariomilano's picture

the news is not a news if you didn't listen only to MSM: m5s is pro Europe and against EURO. EU without 2 currencies or freedom of exit from eurozone is dead.

HermanVanCuckold's picture

He was dumb to bet his credibility on a Belgian cuck

Troy Ounce's picture


Difficult for people to figure out THAT IT IS ALL ABOUT TRUST.

Assange figured it out.

new game's picture

is he italian? lol....

white judging whites? take that blm...

duckrichard's picture

Ho but they did a long time ago otherwise he wouldn't be in the spotlight .

If somebody tell you they want to reform or change europe knowing that you have to have the unanimity of all 28 member (art. 48 ) with conflicting interests to do that, they are a fraud. This include past exemple like siriza in Greece we  saw how it was all empty promesses. 5 stars , podemos , Le Pen etc ... they are just shills .

if you don't see written black on white in their political program that they want out of EU through article 50 like UKIP fought for then they are part of the establishment and only there to insure the status co .

If you think she has not swear allegiance to the tptb you're one big fool .

dariomilano's picture

the letter of goodbye to nigel (not "to rebuild bridges") was written and posted before (not "after") Alde didn't hold his end of the bargain. Verhofstadt revealed itself totally unreliable or utterly lier.

SpanishGoop's picture

"Verhofstadt revealed itself totally unreliable or utterly lier."

There must be something new under the sun ?



dariomilano's picture

not for me, clearly for Grillo and 80% of my friends

SpanishGoop's picture

Guy wants one of everything whithin Europe but he wants to be the leader of it all.


GreatUncle's picture

"Verhofstadt revealed itself totally unreliable or utterly lier"

Guess who is doing the BREXIT negotiation ...Verhofstadt I do believe.

dark fiber's picture

There is a fine line between comedian and arseclown.  Unfortunately, Grillo was never aware of it.

SpanishGoop's picture

This will be the end of the 5-star movement, and perhaps the birth of the 6-star movement.

275 million stars die and are born per day in the universe.





dogfish's picture

It was just a skit from the begining. Why is nobody laughing?

SpanishGoop's picture

Guy was not amused when Beppe pulled the "water squirting flower" trick on him.


dude duderson's picture

I wonder how much Buca Di Peppo took for his dignity?

MPJones's picture

Sad that Grillo has gone loco. M5S needs to find a new leader as fast as possible to strengthen the populist anti-EU movement and regain credibility.

FlKeysFisherman's picture

Looks like somebody had "the talk" with Bebbe.

fockewulf190's picture

It takes a long time to recover from a self-inflicted gunshot to your own foot. 

Spiro The Greek's picture

Do not waste your time with Europe.

European politics, economics, sociology and all the way to alternative revelutionary thoughts and movements is entrapped in ancient old wrongs like:

Cast, ethnos, class, arogance, religion, statue quo, superiority, history and ignorance.

Nothing good will ever come out of Europe. Believe in societies like Australia, USA, Canada and Japan.

Europe deserved and deserves all ills, wars and misfortunes that it has and will get. At best it can give birth to disapontments like Grillo and Tsipras.

bh2's picture

"Do not waste your time with Europe."

Curiously enough, that's exactly what the founders believed for the same reasons -- and most Americans, before FDR.

Spiro The Greek's picture

Takes smart people to see that and a lifetime wasted on it !

Temple of Truth's picture

Believe in Canada? Give me a break.

Those paying attention knew Grillo was an idiot long before this.

Italy's only hope is Lega Nord with Salvini. They have been on the right side for decades.

Ecclesia Militans's picture

Thank you for mentioning Lega since they have been working tirelessly to bring some sense of nationalism back to a ravaged nation.  The only problem with Italy, as evidenced by Grillo, is that pretty much every Italian male under the age of 55 is either a simpering Mama's boy, or a carbon copy of Roberto Benini.  Which might be the same thing, after some consideration....

tuetenueggel's picture

The idiots, who elected Tsipras were Greek. Weren´t they .

Azannoth's picture

See there are no political solutions left, the "New Right" will either sell out, defect or just sit on their hands - it's blood and guts what's what it is going to be at the end..

Kaeako's picture

The difference between Nigel and Beppe is that one wants to destroy the EU, one wants to fundamentally reform it. It's not surprising that Beppe is looking for allies in Europe to move that process forward, and that his base supports it. A lot of people have misunderstood what he stands for, simply because they are only aware of his opposition to the euro.

AlbertthePudding's picture

Even hypocrites don't feel comfortable in the company of their own kind.

theprofromdover's picture

Nobody can ever do a deal with Verhofstadt, he is a complete pompous ass.

He couldn't even do a deal with himself in the mirror.

MaxThrust's picture

Goodbye Beppo, Nice knowing you, don't let hte door hit you on the way out.

God is The Son's picture

What a dick-heed, trying to form an alliance with the Marxists aka Liberals

God is The Son's picture

FK the EU, FK NWO Centralization agenda, FK Marxism, the EU must be destroyed anything created by Marxists NWO Marxists must be torn down.

God is The Son's picture

Ironic how all the EU Liberal MP's look like Pedophiles, maybe connection between Pizza Gate and US Democratic Party.

Long memory man's picture

It will take time to make it legal, just like the laws we once had against Homosexuality, but I think it will be one stride too far.

tuetenueggel's picture

Which women would spend a single eye glimpse on such morons ?

Fireman's picture

It aint called the Natostan Pedophile Politburo of the EUSSR for nothing. All these freaks have been lovingly captured and compromised for posterity by the NSA GESTAPO with their innocent victims. There is not a hotel room in sewer Brussels that is not bugged.

cahadjis's picture

The sooner Spain learns from the mistakes of others the better for it and for the EU. Italy is a big one but Spain can tilt the tables with just one word.

TeaClipper's picture

Either this clown cant identify globalists when he sees them, or he's been compromised, in which case Italy remains firmly Germany's bitch

tuetenueggel's picture

The asshole Guy Verhofstadt is not to be important.

Worst on him isn´t that he´s an asshole but that he´s a communist asshole.

Liberals are the same as shitlery´s followers:

Stupid, uneducated, lazy and leftish.

Snowflakes who are whining about losses of their state substitution when trump

stops this. And he will !!

Grumbleduke's picture

the joke is on Italy, and joker Grillo got outjoked.

bentaxle's picture

Equally, Grillo's failure, has reinforced the overriding reality that the EU in its current form is simply an unreformable concrete edifice that exists to serve itself and a handful of globalists.

Smashing it down won't realistically be possible in a one hit wonder election. It will need to be eroded way one step at a time. So the question is does Grillo have the patience to stay on this road. 

Gold_Spot's picture

Well, the Comedian has just become a Buffon. The one-step from Sublime to Ridicule. His move is pretty much in the same line as Madona's offering blowjobs to all voting for Clinton

Dominus Ludificatio's picture

He is just a motor mouth traitor unable to govern an ant colony.Can point out problems but has no solutions or able to work with anybody including his own party.

Joe A's picture

Grillo walked and fell with his eyes wide open into a political trap set by Verhofstadt. I don't like Verhofstadt -not at all- and while this trap is simply evil, it is also diabolitically beautiful. Grillo is exposed as an opportunist sell out and is finished. The anti EU crowd in disarray.