Four Reasons Why A $195Bn Bond Manager Believes Fiscal Policy Won't Restart The Business Cycle

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The last time TCW's Tad Rivelle, whose firm at last checked managed roughly $195 billion, issued a warning was back in late September, when he cautioned that the "central banking Emperors have no clothes... when the supposed solutions to the Fed’s dilemma are merely new “problems,” you know you are approaching the cycle’s end... successful, long-term investing is predicated on not just knowing where the happening parties are during the reflationary parts of the cycle but, even more importantly, knowing when the time has come to leave the dance floor. In our view, that time has already come."

He was both right and wrong: right in that the central banking emperors indeed are naked, and the era of monetary stimulus is ending; wrong in that the time to leave the dance floor had certainly not yet arrived.

What Rivelle didn't anticipate is that a new "emperor" (one with clothes for now), emerged, and has vowed to pick up the baton of monetary policy, using it to create trillions in fiscal stimulus instead.

His name was Donald Trump, and at least until now, the markets have been transfixed by his ability to promise broad generalities while delivering nothing in terms of actionable plans. Of course, he is not even a president yet, so one can't fault Trump, yet, and it is understandable why the honeymoon period has lasted as long as it has, but sooner or later, Trump will have to give the market something more.

And since there is a rapidly rising risk that he won't, both Morgan Stanley and Jeff Gundlach have recently told traders to "sell the inauguration."

They are not alone, because as TCW's Tad Rivelle writes in his latest letter "No Stagnation Without Representation", while there will be long-term consequences of Trump's policies, assuming they are implemented as expected, the costs will arrive long before the expected benefits - after all they are already being discounted by various assets classes such as rates and the dollar - and eventually have a spillover effect on equities. Among these are: i) higher Treasury rates, ii) stronger dollar, iii) the China economy and iv) undercapitalized continental European banks.

Rivelle's bottom line: nothing has actually changed.

"in our estimation the investment climate for risk assets after the election looks a lot like the environment before the election: risky. And while there are many valid reasons to cheer a change in tax policy, saving the U.S. and global economy from its past excesses is not one of them. Stay cautious, my friend."

His full note is below.

No Stagnation Without Representation, By Tad Rivelle

Over the course of this asset price cycle, central banks have held the rate markets in thrall. Until now. Low for longer just slammed head-on into November’s altered political realities. While the detailed content of Trumponomics has yet to be revealed, the broad outlines are apparent: comprehensive tax cuts, regulatory roll-back, and, more speculatively, an infrastructure program. The rate market’s “first draft” reaction to a Fed that has had its low rate car keys taken away and a Federal government about to massively balloon its borrowing requirements has been predictable: higher Treasury rates.


Sources: Congressional Budget Office, Tax Policy Center, Cornerstone Macro

Global Yields Rise After the Election

Source: Bloomberg

Higher rates have, in turn, made dollar assets look more attractive, promoting a sharp rise in the dollar’s exchange value:

U.S. Dollar Appreciation Since The Election Night

Source: Bloomberg

So, are markets telling us that with the new year we augur in a new era of prosperity? Or, does the financial baggage carried along from the past six or seven Christmases mean that investors must still navigate an aging credit cycle, fraught with all manner of latecycle risks? Put differently, is it really feasible for fiscal policy to restart the cycle “anew” given years and years of financial excess?

Well before tipping our hand, let’s acknowledge that cutting taxes and whittling down the regulatory state should lift productivity and enhance growth – over the long term. “Long-term” in this case likely means well after this current cycle has sung its swan song. But, there will be near-term benefits. If we think of the domestic economy as having three parts, ie. government, business, and the consumer, then, almost tautologically, the operating “deficits” of one become the combined “surpluses” of the others (see figure on following page). If government goes further into deficit, consumers and businesses see the benefit in the form of higher incomes and profitability. But, these are the most immediate and visible effects of the changing policy regime.

Yet, the lowering of the Federal take from the economy is hardly costless and will have lagged consequences. Furthermore, the lagged consequences of today’s pending policy changes have already been at least partially discounted by forward looking markets into higher Treasury rates and a stronger dollar. And, even lagged consequences will, in turn, have their own lagged consequences. Consider:

1. Higher Treasury rates. Interest rates powerfully impact asset prices and the general economy. Notably: (1) rising capitalization rates pressure asset prices; (2) the already overgeared U.S. investment grade sector may find itself hard pressed to “maintain rating” as borrowing costs elevate; (3) higher home mortgage rates further stretch home affordability, potentially derailing one of the brighter spots in the U.S. economy; (4) a wider rate differential between the U.S. and Europe and between the U.S. and Japan may exacerbate an on-going flight of capital from overseas, placing upward pressure on euro and yen denominated rates.

2. Stronger dollar. The dollar holds a unique position in the global economy, and a rapidly rising dollar exchange rate has historically caused something, somewhere in the global economy to “break.” Those in the EM that have borrowed in dollars face the reality of a liability stream that has become more expensive to repay. Meanwhile, the second largest economy on the planet, China, has informally pegged the yuan to the dollar. A stronger dollar generally means a stronger yuan; a stronger yuan means a less competitive export sector for an economy whose “mother’s milk” is trade.

3. China economy. Many believe the China economy to be well managed and with $3 Trillion in FX reserves, who really wants to argue the point? Yet, large nations have a way of “exporting” their troubles, in the manner that was attributed (in the 1960s) to then U.S. Treasury Secretary John Connally when he quipped that the “dollar was our currency, but your problem.” Suppose China finds that its domestic growth continues to slow. What are its choices? China can “unpeg” the yuan and allow it to depreciate, so as to maintain Chinese export competitiveness. That’s good news for China, but might be a disaster for weaker links in the EM that are unable to adjust to a lower yuan. Or, China might sell-off some of its stockpile of Treasuries so as to finance domestic consumption at a time when its exports are weak. The likely ceteris paribus result would be higher dollar interest rates and, you guessed it, a still stronger dollar. Yep, the yuan is their currency, but it could be your problem.


Source: Bloomberg

4. Undercapitalized continental European banks. Unlike the U.S., Europe barely recapitalized its banks after the 2008 crisis. Worse, with a negative rate environment and a slow growing economy, the European banks are accreting new capital at a snail’s pace. Some say that so long as the national governments have the back of the European money center banks that perhaps low capital ratios are irrelevant. Yet, let’s not forget that those who are not credit-worthy, don’t get credit. Inadequate capital levels raise the specter that European banks remain vulnerable to a “liquidity” crisis when times get tough. And, bereft of U.S. depository gathering facilities, the only way a European bank can get its hands on U.S. dollars is wholesale, likely via the capital markets. The ECB may be a European bank’s best friend in a crisis but that might be thin consolation if the bank is shut-out of the capital markets and in desperate need of dollars. And with problem loans running at an EU average of 20%, you don’t even have to be a bond guy to foresee trouble ahead.

U.S. vs. European Tangible Common Equity Ratios (%)

Source: SNL Financial

Total problem loan ratio, by country

Source: Deutsche Bank; *Includes Greece and Cyprus (not shown) with totals above 50%.

So, in our estimation the investment climate for risk assets after the election looks a lot like the environment before the election: risky. And while there are many valid reasons to cheer a change in tax policy, saving the U.S. and global economy from its past excesses is not one of them. Stay cautious, my friend.

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Pinto Currency's picture

You can't create real growth with deficit spending or central bank loose money policy.

It's a one sentence article.

froze25's picture

Need a growing population for a growing economy. You also need to do things that add value at each step of production. Pull the ore out of the ground, value added, turn ore in to ingots, value added, turn ingots into usable items via machining/casting, value added, turn items (parts) into a working product, value added. Paper pushing alone will not get us there. A Service economy will not get us there.

bobbbny's picture

Was anyone dumb enough to use an ARM when the 30y was 3.375%?

Looking at TNX rolling over, my bet is the 10y back at 1.80% but for all the wrong reasons.

The "recovery" was, is, and will be non-existant.

Wouldn't be surprised to see NIRP.

Raffie's picture

So we are in a hole digging and when we hit NEW looking dirt that does not mean we are getting close to the surface but still in the hole.

Need to let it all crash and burn up then restart.

Not going to be fun, but it is needed. Like why farmers burn their fields. Our economic field has way much over growth choking out the real money.

root superuser's picture

Nothing can grow forever. Its as simple as that.

robertsgt40's picture

No matter what the tax structure is for business, 70% of US GDP is from consumption(consumer). Guess what? The gutted middle class is tapped out. 

hedgeless_horseman's picture

What is this Business Cycle they are speaking of?

hooligan2009's picture

imagine the tax payer on an exercize cycle,

as the cyclist pedals, money is spewed into the mouths of multi-nationals, banks and welfare recipients

that is the "busiess cycle" model of the last 50 years of libtard global socialism


trump thinks he can get the multi-nationals, banks and welfare recipients on the cycle to give them a turn at pulling their weight, so to speak.

Yen Cross's picture

 lol> If we can even get CONgress to agree on any sort of fiscal policy/ [faux paux Q/E].

  These are the same dirtbag RINO NEOcons that let Ozero rule by decree, as long as he greased their palms.

 Rubio and Ryan are toast at the next midterms. They can go live in Chuck Schumers guest house.

GunnerySgtHartman's picture

successful, long-term investing is predicated on not just knowing where the happening parties are during the reflationary parts of the cycle but, even more importantly, knowing when the time has come to leave the dance floor. In our view, that time has already come.

I agree with this, and that's why I've "left the dance floor" ... nearly all of my stock holdings have been sold, both personally and in my 401k.  Some have told me that I missed the boat with the recent runup, but I'll let them take the hit when things finally fold.  :-)

asteroids's picture

Drain the swamp. Bring back "the rule of law". Get rid of mark-to-fantasy. And for Gawd's sake take away the FED's fucking printer. Everything else will take care of itself.

QQQBall's picture

strong dollar? You take the $10T plus whatever is off balance sheet in borrowings over the past 8 years and speculative profits from ZERO IR out of the equation and focus on over $200T in unfunded liabilities and the USA is a shitshow.  Just drove across this once great land via I-20... There is a lot of depression era cityscapes.  I am frugal and I am getting squeezed every day. I try to go a day w/o spending a penny and it is harder now than it has ever been.

hooligan2009's picture

the task facing trump is to convince US multinationals to have faith in the quality of US workers.

the price of those workers, combined with te use of technology like robotics and fewer regulations for start-ups PLUS no incentive for the corruption inherent in industry lobbying for protection from competition will go towards meeting a key goal of TRADE SURPLUSES.

the tax rate will help, closing down loopholes will help as well.

his drug policy of targeting excessive list prices will help.

what also needs to happen is that multinationals need a brain upgrade - that will be tough - solution


acheiving TRADE SURPLUSES will result in FISCAL SURPLUSES, abolishing share buy backs will result in higher dividends

the other elephnt in the room is investment by US based fund mnagers of hundreds of billions of dollars for much higher fees in foreign countries. the returns, adjusted for risk, net of the much higher (two or three times higher) fees, instead of doing the hard work of investing in business plans that make sense in the U\s, rather than quant models that don't work will return the US to global leadership in trade and intellectual capital.

of course, the snowflake universities are a massive barrier to upskilling multinationals - they churn out snowflakes and prefer social media to usefulness in the business world - i think colleges and universities should be shut down and replaced with web based training at home - but that's me.

lastly, defence spending - this needs to be halved with far more attention paid to results rather than "exercizes" on foreign shores - the US has the capability to reach every corner of the planet from the US with minimum risk to US personnel and a lot less collateral damage to foreigners - do that instead of wasting billions on no results and lives lost.

welfare is tricky because libtard polcies have created a massive (50 million strong) cohort of people that have no intention of contributing to the US, only sucking out as many tax dollars as it can - there is another 5 million that prefer the twilight zone of violent crime that have become used to being bribed by free accomodation and food from the state or from the cvilian population. might need to get hard nosed on all of that.


Sending good money after bad has always been the rule of thumb for the uneducated in the Central Banks throughout the entire world.


Good article, and I agree with the outcome after the FED retard sandwich eating morons have pissed the last 8 years [count em'] down the High Finance shitter for everyone in the world to see.


Way to go, Geithner!!!!!

Richard Head's picture

Never trust a guy named "Tad."