Tucker Carlson and Glenn Greenwald Discuss Deep State War Vs. Trump, While Ex-Spook Hints At Assassination

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DeepState-e1398185022722Journalist Glenn Greenwald, who is not a fan of President-elect Trump, appeared on Tucker Carlson tonight to discuss the dangerous ongoing effort among powerful anti-Trump factions within the US Government's "Deep State," who have collaborated with members of the Democratic Party and the traditionally liberal media to inflict maximum damage on the incoming President. Recall Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer's ominous "six ways from Sunday" comment from 10 days ago.

Greenwald, an accomplished litigator, journalist, and author, does a masterful job illustrating the players, motives, and potential fallout from this dangerous effort within the US Government's intelligence apparatus. Greenwald goes deep, discussing how Trump's election ruined the plan for regime change in Syria, specifically mentioning, among other things, that the deep state was waiting for Obama to leave office before executing their plan:

The number one foreign policy priority of the CIA over the last four to five years has been the proxy war they're waging in Syria to remove Bashar Al Assad - and Hillary Clinton was quite critical of Obama for constraining them. She wanted to escalate that war to unleash the CIA, to impose a no-fly zone in Syria to confront Russia, whereas Trump took the exact opposite position. He said we have no business in Syria trying to change the government, we ought to let the Russia and Assad go free and killing ISIS and Al Quaeda and whoever else they want to kill.


He [Trump] was a threat to the CIA's primary institutional priority of regime change in Syria. Beyond that, Clinton wanted a much more confrontational and belligerent posture towards Moscow, which the CIA has been acrimonious with for decades, whereas Trump wanted better relations. They viewed Trump as a threat to their institutional pre-eminence to their ability to get their agenda imposed on Washington.

What you're seeing is actually quite dangerous. There really is at this point obvious open warefare between this un-elected, but very powerful faction that resides in Washington and sees Presidents come and go - on the one hand, and the person that the American democracy elected to be elected on the other. There's clearly extreme conflict and subversion taking place. '

This really is a must-watch, and goes hand-in-hand with Tucker's interview with Dr. Stephen Cohen this week:

Meanwhile ex-spook and security consultant John Schindler - who is very clearly part of the faction to remove Trump by any means, sent out a tweet yesterday which mentioned "taking traitor Trump out now."


This is overt, and Schindler also just more or less outed Washington Post's David Ignatius as a CIA mouthpiece (along the same vein as Deep Throat, perhaps we can refer to Ignatius's source as Golden Shower?).

This cavalier attitude towards assassinating Donald Trump has been supported by social media giant Facebook:


And nothing, to the best of my knowledge, has been done about the multitude of death threats Trump has received - including ones from individuals who have visited the White House and have CIA connections.



Meanwhile 8 years ago, a La Mesa, California man was charged, arrested, and thrown in a halfway house for 60 days for going on a drunken, racist, profanity laced online tirade against President-elect Obama ending in "he will have a 50 cal in the head soon." - a conviction which was later reversed when the threats were found to be not credible.

Perhaps the secret service is merely spread too thin to investigate these threats, or perhaps President-elect Trump is wise to have his own private security.



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fattail's picture

I think Trump having his own personally selected security detail gives the secret service a built in excuse if something happens.  Which I am sure was considered by Trump and his people.  Which tells you how little they trust them.

oncemore's picture

a good habit to shoot the first moron in chief. it is called democracy and western values.

mary mary's picture

Apparently, Rachel Maddow fans have learned that they come to ZH and spread filth.  They never have anything to share about investing, though, because they don't know anything, because learning takes a lot of work, and spreading filth is so much easier.

BearClaw's picture

Does Schindler really think he's bullet proof?

That fat fuck is gonna get got...

TeethVillage88s's picture

Effectively peoples of the 7-8 countries we invaded with proxy, air-power, or soldiers/sailors... are LMFA off about US Bringing Democratic Processes and Status to them.

- Yemen, long a British Money Center, now bombed by Saudi Arabia with US Weapons, US Training, US Funds, and maybe Foreign Aid that was given to Israel
- Sudan, long a French Colonial FUBAR
- Libya, Jordan, Egypt, Syria, all set up by the British after the defeat of the Ottoman Empire
- Pakistan, Afghanistan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Bengali, India, Hindustani, all set up by the British empire that failed or went broke with Rothschild Central Bank (Private), and the pension for world wars by the Bankers of the West, Britain, Canada, USA, Australia, ... and likely other big players like the Bush family, Union Bank, Brown Brothers Harriman
- Iraq
- Afghanistan, 14 year war with no exit strategy
- Use of Armies, Air Forces, Navy, Satellites to defeat poor Guerrillas that fade into the populaces when things get tight, cost is only $3-6 Trillion for the US Weapons, Troops, and Care of Veterans

Probably missed a lot. Sorry.


Oh, sorry since 9-11-01 the US Political Eltie have damaged the USA as a Brand Name, as an Icon, as the Light of the West, as the beacon of Democracy...

But the English don't care, the Europeans don't care.


Because It is VERY ENGLISH to have Usury, Foreign Agent Lobbying, No Term Limits, No limits to soft money in politics, no limits to what Foundations can do in terms of wars, refugees, Private Prisons, the Incarceration Rate, the Fascism...

Because it is very English to have money flowing every place and corrupting not only all institutions, but all of our LEADERS... and having LEADERS who never take responsibility.

Like the Clinton Foundation.

Like Marc Rich, founder of Glencore, who was pardoned with his partner Pincus Green.

Bill Clinton Pardoned these two while FBI had 65 Charges against them, Trading with the Enemy, Fraud, Wire Fraud, and Tax Evasion. They sent weapons to Iran while US had sanctions or blockade on Iran.

Today, Obama and Hillary have prosecuted more people for whistleblowing than all other administrations combined.

Because it is so VERY ENGLISH.

mary mary's picture

In the USA Revolutionary War, more Americans died inside British prison ships than died in all the battles put together.

A small demonstration of British "nobility", "sportsmanship", "fair play", "professional respect for our opponents".

British always talk the talk, and NEVER walk the walk.

By the way, Andrew Jackson's mother volunteered to go to those prison ships and give food and medical care to the starving, ill imprisoned soldiers.  In the process, she contracted a disease from which she died.  Nothing in Heaven or Hell could have kept Andrew Jackson from slaughtering as many British as possible at New Orleans, although of course the arrogance and stupidity of the British officers helped him.

For hundreds of years, Britain was the world's largest empire, aka, the world's largest terrorist organization.  Today, British bankers are at the heart of Rothschild Zionist International Central Banking Cartel, the world's largest terrorist organization.  The only difference is that Central Banking (the ability to create "money" out of thin air) makes it easy for them to hide, and pay the always-plentiful psychopathic subhumans (all the Bush/Clinton/Bush/Obama Neocons, including Rahm Emanaul, and John McCain, Lindsey Graham, and of course Bush, Clinton, Bush, and Obama themselves) to put a nice pretty icing on their Terrorism Cake, which icing says, "Moi?  No, I'm FIGHTING terrorism by funding terrorism".

So... any time I hear "Country A is our best friend", I think, "oh, the Self-Appointed Gods of Earth, the International Bankers, are using Country A to bribe our MSM, legislators, and administrators and subvert our Constitution".

For a quick reminder of how arrogant (and insulting) the British are, just watch John Oliver a few minutes.  British consider everyone else in the world to be too stupid to manage their own affairs.  And, by the way, John Oliver was given a big helping hand up by Jon Stewart.  As ordered...?

Nobodys Home's picture

Looks like Schindler has a list.

TeethVillage88s's picture

Maybe a combo of list types.

Color coded like the DHS Threat system: Red List for bad guys, Green List for good guys, blue list for law enforcement and intel agency guys... neocon leadership... orange list for no fly list types, protestors.

- Obama's kill list.
- No Fly list
- Tracking by Cell phone, credit card transactions, transportation ticketing at bus, plane, train stations
- People on fake news web sites, bloggers, anti establishment types

Anyone know how many lists we can be on??

Disgruntled Goat's picture

Greenwald, also a huge homo. We don't need your help Glenn. You can go back to sucking black dick now.

mary mary's picture

-1000.  :-(

Other people's sex lives are their business, not mine.  My job on this planet is to work out my salvation.

"I'll be doing all I can, if I die an honest man".  Red Hot Chili Peppers.

American Snipper's picture

The deep state took out President Kennedy, so anything is possible, unless Oswald had magic bullets that U-Turned and hit him in the forehead?

SoDamnMad's picture

Yeah The Warren Commission was worse than the investigation of 9/11.  Oswald was almst held spread eagle by the Texas Rangers for Jack Ruby to kill him so that the "lone shootoer" would take the evidence to the grave.  But I am sure the grassy knoll shooter also had a tragic accident shortly thereafter too. 

chindit13's picture

So many experts here, albeit with the combined knowledge that could fit into a Tweet---and with 139-characters remaining.

I'm somewhat surprised by Glenn, as apparently his own access is rather limited. Hillary---now tossed into the dustbin of history---was the driving force behind Syrian regime change, just as she was in Libya. Between her and Susan Rice, they orchestrated most all of the madness that became failed policy---and all of it against the admonitions of the intel community, who know that absolutely nothing good can come from engagement in the Middle East. (Putin hasn't yet learned that, but he will.) Glenn got that dead wrong.

I guess all of you conspiratorialists can have your belief system challenged or reinforced is Trump is taken out, since most of you drink the Moonbat Koolaid that has the IC behind the death of JFK. If Trump lives 4 years, will you all be confused? How will the Internet Gurus, the source of all the 'research' that 'makes sense', reconcile that? I mean, you are never going to admit that you never did know shit, and simply found things that fed your preexisting bias.

In my own desire to see Hillary defeated, I willingly overlooked Trump's obvious faults. Those faults are now readily apparent, and I suspect he will turn out to be a disaster. He has already lost the support and respect of the IC and Military---and that might be a good thing in some way, because nobody is going to engage in foreign conflict at his behest. The man's entire life has been solely about erecting monuments to his own fragile ego, yet now he has the audacity to equate the IC with Nazis and imply he places more trust in the Russian FSB than anything American. That does not go unnoticed in either the IC or Military, so he is going to be ignored. In addition, lots of folks are deciding to move on and not work for this clown, so the avenues open to ISIS and aQ to acquire bio-terror or even nukes will lead directly and without obstruction right into NYC. If Trump thinks he can replace that expertise---which he will soon learn are responsible for the fact that his NYC buildings are still standing---quickly, he has no clue what it takes not only to get native in Arabic, but to develop the skills to work against a target whose delight is to remove heads and post the video on the internet. Perhaps Trump can send Jared Kushner to give it a whirl, and the entire Trump family might then enjoy such a YouTube video of Jared's failure. There 'ain't no' US Law nor co-opted court system to allow that sort of failure to result in a painless bankruptcy. #HeadlessSon-in-Law!

Maybe Trump can pull something positive off domestically, but he cannot create too many jobs in a world where labor no longer has pricing power. The drive toward increasing automation and technology is relentless, and outsourcing was only a stop gap measure. China is on the verge of losing all the jobs it gained from what used to be US manufacturing. Wither the US in a post-industrial, debt-filled world?

Oh, all of those regular fears about the level of debt do not go away simply because Hillary lost. $20 trillion is $20 trillion, even in Trumpistan.

Trump is championed now around these parts, but I suspect that tune will change by June, perhaps earlier. Trump is everything he seemed to be, and nothing he was hoped to be.

mary mary's picture

I call Bullsh*t:. 

In real life, everybody has to choose sides.  Those who pretend they chose Side A, and then spend 6 paragraphs attacking Side A, are in fact agents of Side B, and they don't fool anybody.

fleur de lis's picture

chindit, what has gotten into you?

At the very least do you have any concern for the 3,000 people who were mass murdered in NYC during the 911 hoax with the knowledge of our IC so the DC perverts could ignite another war?

If you still belive the 911 story you have learned nothing.

LA_Goldbug's picture

Looks like it is not your day.

But this one for me takes the cake,

" since most of you drink the Moonbat Koolaid that has the IC behind the death of JFK."

In other words, "Oswald did it !! " and the Secret Service chose the best zig-zag route for JFK so that the people would have a better look at him.


They EVEN allowed open windows for those wanting a "better shot" of him as he drove by. I did not mean "shoot" as in guns, of course :-)


Solomonpal's picture

You are full of shit past your eyebrows. I normally don't go off on commenters here but you are a special case.

TeethVillage88s's picture

Taking you in Context, I see you as Drunk or impair... much as I am at the moment.

"So many experts here, albeit with the combined knowledge that could fit into a Tweet---and with 139-characters remaining.

I'm somewhat surprised by Glenn, as apparently his own access is rather limited. Hillary---now tossed into the dustbin of history---was the driving force behind Syrian regime change, just as she was in Libya...."

You can't use a pronoun when you haven't introduced the person first so as to refer back to it's sex identity.

Yeah, I'm screwing with you. But you seem slightly to assume we understand what you are referring to.


There is no Basis of Fact to the Intelligence that has Smeared the US President Elect and even Klapper has testified to this effect. But who would rely on testimony of the Arch Enemy of the Democratic Party? We call this Racketeering, Sedition, Treason, and if you are awake we might be coming for you in the night or early morning.

What did you say in writing on the internet and other forms of communication to under cut the USA as a Country, it's Constitution, it's Culture, It's Laws, and it's documents?

Your protests and lack of lawful behavior makes you a Criminal... Welcome to the family of deplorables.

American Snipper's picture

Sounds like you have drunk too much Moonbat Koolaid, did Kennedys brain not exit the gaping hole in the back of his head according to the hand drawn drawing and rush out of DFW? And how on earth can you speak for the Military, the very Military who had to put up with 8 years of feckless Raisin Nuts, gays in military, and their VA Healthcare system reduced to British levels. Trump has accomplished more in one day than you have in your lifetime, chump...

therevolutionwas's picture

If you were at all capable of reading and understanding a serious book, I would recommend one of hundreds that indicate that elements in the CIA and FBI had a hand in JFK's murder.  Otherwise your comment sounds like you still need to get over the fact that Trump won.

Snaffew's picture

I think your cheese has fallen off your cracker there chindit.  Do you really believe that Hillary Clinton and Susan Rice orchestrated the succesful or attrempted regime changes in Syria and Libya?  That is hilarious...the much more accurate statement would be that they were the Spokespersons for regime change while the deep state---our military and intelligence community, orchestrated these and all similar past events.  Hillary Clinton can barely stand without a plethora of drugs to keep her upright...this woman was nothing but a puppet pulled along by the strings and promises of greed and power.  The deep state has long since successfull;y removed this country from being a republic or a democracy.  The visible spectrum is just smoke and mirrors.

DuneCreature's picture

I hate cheese that is too crumbly to stay on my wafer worf a Ritz.

You have a firm grip on your reality Brie biscuit there, Snaffew.

Killary couldn't tie her own shoe without VooDoo Majik coaching from behind the black budget IC curtain. .... And she is such an 'expendable asset' to them now she won't even believe how far under bus they will toss her.

That, I believe, is what chinit is trying to tell us. .... Killary and her sloppy ops are about to become sacrificial meat thrown to the wolf pack.

I hope it only takes a wolf or two to drag her and her posse down and the rest of the pack can stay in pursuit of the main cache of pirates.

Live Hard, Killary Is The High Profile Satan Queen But The King And The Court Are Still Out In The Open, Die Free

~ DC v4.0

Akzed's picture

aaaaaand Mulims knocked down the towers, so we better love the IC that was clueless about it.


Snaffew's picture

the military and intelligence community perpetuated 9/11...they weren't ignorant or clueless about it at all.

Dave Whiteman's picture

the (((military and intelligence community))) perpetuated 9/11



Snaffew's picture

you are most likely correct on that point, but aren't they all tied together anyway...the military and intelligence need an ever insatiable amount of funding...so yes, the bankers too.

DuneCreature's picture

So tell me this, in your rarefied view of diplomatic wisdom, who would you, in a perfect world, like to see as POTUS?

Someone alive today, please. .. I don't care if they would ever seek or accept the position.

My own choice would be based on ethics, intentions, intelligence and effectiveness.

Live Hard, Statesmanship Could Be Learned On The Fly, I Would Assume, Die Free

~ DC v4.0

bluez's picture

That would be my ophthalmologist who opened my eyes (literally) and removed the cataracts. I think all my years in microwave communications caused the cateracts.

But I trusted this surgeon to dig into my eyes and remove the cataracts, so yeah, I would trust him to be president.

DuneCreature's picture

It sounds like he has intelligence and effectiveness covered.

My opinion of the medical profession's ethics and intentions over the years as dropped precipitously but I trust there are still a few honorable doctors out there. ........ Old country doctors they are not, however.

Live Hard, I've Met Some Pretty Darn Smart Farmers With Excellent Honorable Intentions Myself, Die Free

~ DC v4.0

Infinite QE's picture

What has been discredited is you and your beloved IC. The IC that brought us the Iraq war, $4 trillion in war related debt, deaths of tens of thousands of  service people and the permanent disability of 1 million of them. So fuck off to your castle and your child peddling business and if anything does happen to Trump, I hope the Tylers out you to the proper authorities for your obvious threats to his life and presidency.

Stainless Steel Rat's picture
Stainless Steel Rat (not verified) Jan 14, 2017 1:05 PM

Careful drinking beer in the hot tub, Johnny.

InTylerWeTrust's picture

Those who talk don't know. Those who know don't talk.

On which list belongs this Schindler?

sheikurbootie's picture

I just love all the credibility people give these fucking desk "spies". 

Pejorative Requiem's picture

Wow, just read a few posts and came away with this: Trump looks like a blond Elvis! I never noticed until this story!

Ban KKiller's picture

He'll get a nail gun in the mail. 

JailBanksters's picture

Thing is: Everybody is expecting the Obvious, so if it happens, they can't say Duh we had no idea ! or Gee Duh who do think did it ?

Which is very different from the JFK days.

Trump will be Politically Assasinated, Al-A Richard Milhouse Nixon style.

If the FEDS can create fake birth certificates and get away with it, they can certainly fabricate any kind of false information and get away with it.

And the thing about the CIA, they have access to any information the Government has.


Who do you trust, Hubba Hubba Hubba,

Who do you trust.



therevolutionwas's picture

As for creating info, the CIA sure has been striking out lately....thanks to the internet, in part.

JailBanksters's picture

They're just getting sloppy in there desperation, making it more obvious

LA_Goldbug's picture

That is a clue to the fact that things are getting out of control in their "kitchen".

TeethVillage88s's picture

The theme that government is too big can be expanded broadly to enhance the idea of trump downsizing intelligence agencies and CIA-State Dept Proxy Wars in the Middle East.

For instance if you have revolving door to MIC industry from Government jobs... the greater the number of spy agencies, intelligence agencies, Defense-Security Employees and Contractors in Telecom, Private Security Armies, Defense Lobbyist... the greater the number of Relationships, Careers, influence, Right wing Think Tanks and Foundations.

I could see 2 CIAs in both operations and non-operational sides where you have honest types and corrupted types. So if you sit at a desk in CIA maybe you have plenty of time to gossip, bitch to coworkers, and play games on President Elect.

TheWrench's picture

Hahahaha. Take Trump out and who ever steps in will have no country left to govern. Fact.

SpanishGoop's picture

They do not want a country to govern, they want a country to rule.


TheWrench's picture

Same result, they will have neither. Think Beirut or Yugoslavia back in the day.

monad's picture

Before I was 10 I remember all blond and strawberry kids in their preteens raising me. I remember watching them try their sexes, treating me like a baby. It was natural. That was America before the last man on station in the country got rolled.

Attention Statists: Don't sleep.

monad's picture

Trump's body double better watch out.

Phil Free's picture

Trump's body double better watch out.

Alec Baldwin?  :D