What Is The Deep State?

Tyler Durden's picture

Submitted by Jesse via Jesse's Cafe Americain blog,

"... there is another government concealed behind the one that is visible at either end of Pennsylvania Avenue, a hybrid entity of public and private institutions ruling the country according to consistent patterns in season and out, connected to, but only intermittently controlled by, the visible state whose leaders we choose.


My analysis of this phenomenon is not an exposé of a secret, conspiratorial cabal; the state within a state is hiding mostly in plain sight, and its operators mainly act in the light of day. Nor can this other government be accurately termed an 'establishment.'


All complex societies have an establishment, a social network committed to its own enrichment and perpetuation. In terms of its scope, financial resources and sheer global reach, the American hybrid state, the Deep State, is in a class by itself. That said, it is neither omniscient nor invincible. The institution is not so much sinister (although it has highly sinister aspects) as it is relentlessly well entrenched.


Far from being invincible, its failures, such as those in Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya, are routine enough that it is only the Deep State’s protectiveness towards its higher-ranking personnel that allows them to escape the consequences of their frequent ineptitude."


Mike Lofgren, Anatomy of the Deep State

I do not think our time is all that different from those that have gone before it, insofar as the substance and types of our actions are concerned.  Every age has its thieves and hypocrites, in high and low places.

Rather, what is a little more distinctive of us is the numbers, the sheer number of people whose character, or a lack thereof, fits a common pattern— mean, petty, deceitful, and often willfully ignorant of moral constraints, lacking in civility and grace, and utterly unrepentant of it.

They are quite proud of their cleverness in gaming the system, in embracing the worst aspects of the human economy and abusing them, in the name of their unnatural virtues.  If they are liars, they strives to be among the most shameless and adept.  If they are thieves, they admire those who steal tirelessly and the most, while paying no consequences.

And above all, their perspective on life allows them to have no shame in it, any of it, in what other times would have been done in the darkness, and only behind closed doors, and carefully covered up.

We take our ill gotten gains, and place them in the spotlight with the high sounding names of wise-sounding and humanitarian organizations and foundations.

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“There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn't true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true.”

Søren Kierkegaard

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stant's picture

Heroin pushing fuktards

Tallest Skil's picture

Just… Jews. You can say the word. You don't have to (((hide))) it. It's not a secret. They even admit to it.

We just have to DO something about it.

J S Bach's picture

What is the deep state?


The Saint's picture
The Saint (not verified) J S Bach Jan 13, 2017 6:54 PM

“There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn't true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true.”

Søren Kierkegaard


And the wisdom to tell the difference?  No?

Escrava Isaura's picture

The Saint: And the wisdom to tell the difference?


I don’t think that the Deep-State is worried about Trump policies because Trump Organization caters to the Deep-State. Who do you think that go for drinks and dinner at the Trump locations? The average manufacturer? C’mon.

What worries the Deep-State, in my view, is that that Trump opened the door to the horde. And that Trump won’t be able to control them (Trump’s horde) either by Trump not to be able to deliver what he promised, or, that Trump will outrage half of the nation thus loosing the next election. Then, Trump’s followers (Trump’s horde) won’t accept that.


TwelveOhOne's picture

My New Year's resolution: after clicking an arrow, I will hit F5 (which takes a second or two) -- so that the next time I hit an arrow, I don't have a 10-second delay before I can scroll.

Escrava Isaura's picture

Great. Doesn't take much to please you. And you’re probably a cheap date to go out with, not that it’s bad.

Can’t say the same of these dates: http://nypost.com/2017/01/06/a-martini-at-trumps-dc-hotel-will-run-you-100/


2_legs_bahhhhhd's picture

Pfffft....100$ nothing in Manhattan.

On Broadway I gave a panhandler 20$ and he literally lost it as I handed it to him. The lady behind him picked it up and handed it to him. He actually denied it was his at first, till he realized his hand was empty. All I could do is shake my head and give him a high five. Lofl

jusman's picture

I do admire your "disconnection" from what is going on.  Seems to me that extremism on both sides, or rather, three sides, is what is going on.  There's are 2 sides to the "horde"  - Republican and Democrat - Progressive and Conservative - and then there is the third side which is the Deep State that carries on irregardless of who rules the roost.  Perhaps the plan is to keep the two hordes at each other so the Deep State can just carry on....

Escrava Isaura's picture

The Deep-State have democrats and republicans. Conservatives and liberals. The main difference, that I can tell and experienced by living in the DC Metro Area is the Deep-State education level. Not saying that it is good or bad, just saying that is a fact as night and day.

Second, again, by my experience, I don’t think that the Deep-State like or want see the liberals and conservatives at each other’s throat. These people don’t like confrontation. They like diplomacy, meaning, find compromises. Lose something win something. Move on.

The problem with the Deep-State, but they are not alone, is that what they have is not sustainable and most didn’t know it. Now because of the internet they are finding out. And once they find out, it becomes very uncomfortable. They just don’t want to hear it. Anyway, and I have no doubt, once their system (state-capitalism/neoliberalism/neoconism/militarism/global hegemonic currency) fails, they will take by force.

Bottom line: There’s no disconnection from my side. I know both well. And I know how each one function. There’s no extremism from my side as there’s no illusion.

“Deception, machination and mendacity lie at the core of human intelligence, like worms coiled at the core of a apple” Mark Rowlands 


assistedliving's picture

“Deception, machination and mendacity lie at the core of human intelligence, like worms coiled at the core of a apple”

How trite.  Rather they lie at the core of your commentary

assistedliving's picture

“Deception, machination and mendacity lie at the core of human intelligence, like worms coiled at the core of a apple”

How trite.  Rather they lie at the core of your commentary

RiverRoad's picture

The Clinton Slush Fund Foundation.

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Uzda Farce (not verified) jusman Jan 13, 2017 8:56 PM

"The argument that the two parties should represent opposed ideals and policies, one perhaps of the Right, and the other of the Left, is a foolish idea acceptable only to doctrinaire and academic thinkers. Instead, the two parties should be almost identical, so that the American people can 'throw the rascals out' at any election without leading to any profound or extensive shifts in policy."

-- Carroll Quigley (CFR member, Bill Clinton mentor), "Tragedy and Hope", 1966, p.1247


hedgeless_horseman's picture


"I don't care who does the electing, so long as I get to do the nominating."

- Boss Tweed


Citizen_x's picture


Ah....the Russians did it.....


No, I'm just a little surprised how few posts on this topic.  Just a shame..


lucitanian's picture

You've missed the point I think, There is only one power in Washington and that is the Deep State, Trump is a "corporatist" another name for a Fascist. There is not much to differentiate his characteristics from Mussolini's. He's a megalomaniac, completely self centred egotist, with no vision for the future of anyone but himself. And like Mussolini he will say just about anything to gain power and attention. Hence so many wild statements (a lot undeliverables) and apparent contradictions.

But what's important about Trump is that he will not "Kowtow" (prostrate himself) to the Deep State's powers (whereas Hillary was already bought and paid for). And so we have the present apparent coup happening behind the curtain.

This is all a part of the more serious drama of financial and economic collapse which is happening on the global stage (and was inevitable and planned), and at the centre of that is debt, so massive that nothing can support it. The PTB have always used "war" and inflation to bring the curtain down on this kind of scene, which has always insured the position of the elite, but maybe Trump wants to re-write that part of the scenario.

After all his granddaddy was a brothel keeper in New York and Canada, so maybe he learned well, that he just needs the marks to keep paying or pay more to be fucked by the system, the whores to hand over their percentage, and then he can mark up the value of the real estate.  

If anybody believes that his goals are those of the working man, and that he's just like us, they are living in la la land and will wake up to a very sorry shock, and soon.

Ashowa's picture

Hum, not seen too much wisdom recently. How many people failed to notice that Hannity's interview of Julian Assange was faked using a green screen? Anonymous have pretty much proved this: 


There is lots of evidence that Assange was abducted from the Ecadorian Embassy on Oct 16th and this has been covered up by a series of fake videos and postings on Wikileaks. see https://steemit.com/nwo/@assange/timeline

Before y'all shout out that I'm nuts... Have you considered the possibility that the Deep State had to stop Wikileaks' release of the October Surprise [remember? it never arrived]. And that you have not heard anywhere about how there is a small but persistent number of us who have put a lot of work into verifying Assange's disappearance. Its been totally suppressed. Its not even on the "fake" news sites. Wouldn't you think that you would at least have heard a rumour of something this big? Maybe (((they))) are already in the process of taking over. The Saint asks if you have 'the wisdom to tell the difference?' Apparently not.

But don't believe me, look for yourself; google 'assange missing' or 'assange proof of life' Or see this: https://steemit.com/nwo/@assange/missing

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... double post, edited

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----_- (not verified) Tallest Skil Jan 13, 2017 7:55 PM

"It's not a secret"


noooooo its the leftist leaned globalsit nazi illuminati muslims. alex jones told me so


assistedliving's picture

it is shocking the Israelification of our Police Depts: training, tanks, snipers?

the droning in LA: Palestine?

NSA surveillance of the populace: Mossad?

Fake news: Kissinger?

Wolfowitz, Adelman, Kagan, Nuland, Feith, Perle, Podheretz, Scooter, let alone Yellen, Bernanke, Fischer or our media, Redstone, Zucker, Ovitz, Eisner, Iger. etc etc and wont even mention Squid banking.  

Impressive if not for the shitpile mess we're in

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Chupacabra-322's picture

Deep State

Essay: Anatomy of the Deep State

There is the visible government situated around the Mall in Washington, and then there is another, more shadowy, more indefinable government that is not explained in Civics 101 or observable to tourists at the White House or the Capitol. The former is traditional Washington partisan politics: the tip of the iceberg that a public watching C-SPAN sees daily and which is theoretically controllable via elections. The subsurface part of the iceberg I shall call the Deep State, which operates according to its own compass heading regardless of who is formally in power.


Who rules America?

The secret collaboration of the military, the intelligence and national security agencies, and gigantic corporations in the systematic and illegal surveillance of the American people reveals the true wielders of power in the United States. Telecommunications giants such as AT&T, Verizon and Sprint, and Internet companies such as Google, Microsoft, Facebook and Twitter, provide the military and the FBI and CIA with access to data on hundreds of millions of people that these state agencies have no legal right to possess.

Congress and both of the major political parties serve as rubber stamps for the confluence of the military, the intelligence apparatus and Wall Street that really runs the country. The so-called “Fourth Estate”—the mass media—functions shamelessly as an arm of this ruling troika.


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Uzda Farce (not verified) Chupacabra-322 Jan 13, 2017 9:09 PM

TL/DR. Thousands of words about the "deep state" with no mention of the Rockefeller/CFR and its affiliates. Google, Microsoft, Facebook, AT&T and Time-Warner are CFR corporate sponsors. Also Goldman Sachs, Citigroup, JPMorgan, Blackstone and Blackrock. Many of their execs are CFR members, along with Bill Clinton, John McCain, Dick Cheney, Lynn Forester de Rothschild and George Soros to name a few. Also every Fed chairman since WW2 and most secretaries of State, Treasury, Defense and CIA. See member lists at cfr dot org.


Cardinal Fang's picture

So you have failed to realize the propaganda nature of this Moyers piece?

First off, in the video, do you see who sponsored it? Ironically, The Ford Foundation, Carnegie , MacArthur, PBS etc are all the Deep State...

The. There is the tone of the piece where the message is repeatedly that the Deep State is harmless, it's not intentional it just happens to be etc.

Give me a break, the Moyers piece is jus more blue pill bullshit.

doctor10's picture

they are at war with the rest of the world- and have determined Civil War 2.0 has to happen at home first so the resources they need to expand their dominion worldwide are at their unfettered disposal.

DirkDiggler11's picture

For the first time in a very long time the Deep State fucks are actually concerned about their livelihood and their ability to control everything and everyone...

Winston Churchill's picture

The deep state comes in many flavours, its the ones you have no idea about that really need toppling.

They've been using front men and shell ccompanies for centuries.Even Red Shield is probably exactly that,as

JP Morgan turbed out to be.Those on display are merely richly rewarded tools to be sacrificed now and again,

leaving the real power structure intact.

Chupacabra-322's picture


It's those Select Highly Compartmentalized Criminal Pure Evil Rogue Elements at the Top that have had control since the JFK Execution that have entrenched themselves for decades & refuse to relinquish Control.

It's The White Hats Versus The Black Hats. Pure Evil War / Economic Oligarch Criminal Dynasties which must fall but refuse.

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OfAllElaboratePlans (not verified) Jan 13, 2017 6:48 PM

In 5...4...3...2... [SMG] will be here to remind you all that it's the 'Satanic Overlords' that are responsible...


So don't worry yourself about ANY other possible affiliation, moniker, or otherwise [because naturally, THOSE would be INCORRECT]...


If you want to REPORT this comment ~ Report my comment to the Tylers in defense of the SATANIC OVERLORD ANTI-DEFAMATION LEAGUE (I think their HQ is on "J" St in WDC).

SomethingSomethingDarkSide's picture

Alchemists gonna alchemy, yo

WTFUD's picture

Deep State = ROGUE

two hoots's picture

So,if true, we could remove 3/4 of the people in State, CIA, most of the civilian side of DOD in DC and just take the instructions straight from all the paid by contract and project consulting institutions and individuals and eliminate unnecessary, government paid, middle men?   We already do it so why not drain that swamp.  They are  all nonelected anyway and we could save on pensions, benefits, healthcare.   What would it change, if true? 

I suppose there is some comfort in pretending our public servants are guiding our future?


Old Hippie Patriot's picture

Elements of the  deep state were sick of the incompetence and ineptitude of the Democrats and the RINOS over the last 30 years and made certain that Trump was elected. They used WikiLeaks to destroy Hillary, intolerably inept.

Mr Poopoo Guy's picture

descibes the Jew to a tee. Hitler struck a nerve , that's why he is known as the biggest monster in history. (GUESS WHO WRITES THE HISTORY BOOKS)

JackieBlue's picture

Believing what isn't true and refusing to believe what is true is the same thing, by virtue of one being the opposite of the other!
But it's a great quote.

michelp's picture

"Believing what isn't true and refusing to believe what is true is the same thing, by virtue of one being the opposite of the other!"

You forgot you always have the option of not believing either. Besides, the opposite of what isn't true is not necessarily true. These are different notions.


WTFUD's picture

The Russians are desperate for Peace, the Cowards! sarc

No Leader of a Powerful State in History, has bent over backwards, in the face of such hostility, to accommodate Peace on Earth. Putin's a Saint and makes Mother Theresa look like a $20 Crack Whore.

Bobrsta's picture

I'm not religious and I'm certainly made an inappropriate comment or three over the years. But that made me cringe

chiquita's picture

Maybe, but somewhere the late Christopher Hitchens is smiling

A rope leash's picture

I don't know what the Deep State is, but Donald Trump is penetrating it and telling us what it feels like.

CompassionateConservative's picture

The Deep State is God's Chosen people, the Jews, and their shabbos goy agents but you better dare not say that because if you do then I am going to report you to the ADL, JDL, JIDF, IDF, SPLC, etc. etc. and you will lose your job, we'll protest outside your mother's business if she doesn't sell the building and give the proceeds to a "human rights" organization, we'll sue the fuck out of you, and your wife will leave you and you'll never get pussy again!  SHALOM!

smacker's picture

"Nor can this other government be accurately termed an 'establishment.'"

Can't say I really agree with this. The Deep State or Establishment in most countries will vary according to local conditions, especially in its composition, and they are all unelected.

For example, in the US it's made up of more corporatists than the UK and has more jews in its ranks. But at the end of the day, they all perform a similar role: to control and govern the country from the shadows in the interests of those with vested interests and to exercise power and control over the nation's affairs and the sheeple.

Winston Churchill's picture

I suspect thats changing in the UK.The deep state is hardly new.

My Public school,way back when,was getting a larger  % of jews every year I was there.I hear they are in the majority now.

My schoolIt was the epitome of the deep state ,continuously open since the mid 1500's,but actually founded 300 years before.

Financials and bubonic plagues causing a  hiatus century.A very interesting private library of our Guild members' diarys in

mediaevil English,many of them Lord Mayors of the City of London, when that was a real job, and not ceremonial as it is

now.lots of skullduggery therin.

The deep state has been there for a very long time,its very adaptive unlike the sheep that have to rediscover it every few


Vinividivinci's picture

"What is the deep state"...
it's somewhere between the sphincter and the prostate.

earleflorida's picture

Saudi Arabia has been for 50+/+ years the financial arm of america's deep state. Just ask the Bush's and Prince Bandar!?

Think "MIC' and the recent ~ $80 BILLION ussa armament sale to the Arabs [2015-16]!!!




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Barlow     *** Pay attention! People?

Think Adnan Khashoggi [saudi arabian], and the Gokal Brothers of Pakistan

Safari Club = BCCI=CIA=OBL=A.Q.Khan      --- AFPAK ---       http://www.nytimes.com/1991-08-06/business/bcci-s-best-customer-is-also-its-worst-customer.html          Note: if link doesn't work google it.

Harry Truman hated J. Edgar Hoover and the CIA and NSA he had created? ... seeing and knowing how shortly after the creation it showed signs of becoming subversive regarding american civil rights and constitution. they had to wait until Truman left office to bring in their man 'IKE' who was manhandled by Big Oil/ Banks and Wall Street, and Cromwell and Sullivan [law firm]. think the Dulles brothers who actually ran the WH while Ike spent tyme golfing and socializing with the wealthy!!!

?any questions? too many...[!]

PS. the deep-state is deeper today than yesterday, but Trump could pose a problem? The only caveat is Tillerson for 'SOS' which confuses the shit out of me,... that being from BIG Oil {Seven Sisters} and his/their alignment with the ME?!!? and??? this General that claims a piss-poor/land rich nation like Russia is our greatest threat!?! wtf gives??? confused...[?] 

gellero's picture

LOL........we know....in plain sight...........https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jl_9ayxs69A

I am on to you's picture

So the president elect,of the land of the brave and free,is not deep state?

No,but they chose the candidates,the left or right,or center left right,its all the same lame, fool them all.

Change yes you can or is it drain the swamp.

Is it not like smoking Edward Bernays,torch of freedom,to belive,that Trump is not run by the men Bernay spoke about,the ones who runs it all.

Fool them once,shame on you,fool them twice,shame on them,fool them everytime(democratical election i think its called)forever in slavery they sleep.

The sleep:Whats the color of this years car,how flat is the new flat tv,how hot is the new iphone, how what,s is my app,how book is my face,how soon can i get a driver less car,how  deep goes the rabbithole:Davos deep it goes.

We see them in Davos,the deep state running people,the not to be disturbed,so we pay the police and army to protect them,now they meet in the motherland of fraud and hidden money launderer,drug money or theft or tax evasion or what ever crime syndicate(governance or bank or hedgefund investors speculators) they come from.

Long live E.Bernay,the master of the, public manipulation,also known as PR ,relation with the public.

1984 passed long before Orwel even wrote the book.

Big mother and out.

By the way,Rothschild,hows the weather in China these days?