US Marines Land In Norway For The First Time Since World War II, Angering Russia

Tyler Durden's picture

Just one week after thousands of US troops arrived in Poland to "support NATO's Anti-Russian buildup" across Eastern Europe, 300 U.S. Marines from Camp Lejeune landed in Norway on Monday for a six-month deployment, marking the first time since World War II that foreign troops have been allowed to be stationed there, in a deployment breaking with decades of tradition by Norway not to host foreign forces, and angering Norway's Arctic neighbor Russia, according to Reuters.


A 747 carrying 300 Marines arrived on Monday. Photo: Ned Alley / NTB scanpix

After leaving North Carolina aboard a chartered 747 on Sunday evening, the troops landed at 10am CET on Monday with their luggage and weapons at the Vaernes airport near Trondheim, Norway's third-largest city, television footage showed. The Marines will be hosted at the Vaernes base of the Norwegian Home Guards near Trondheim, Norway's third-largest city.

The US soldiers, which will stay in Norway for a year with the current batch of Marines being replaced after their six-month tour is complete. Until now, the US has had large quantities of military materiel pre-positioned in tunnels dug into Norway's mountains, but no troops.

A spokesman for the Norwegian Home Guards, who will host the Marines at the Vaernes military base, about 1,500 km (900 miles) from the Russian border, said the U.S. troops will learn about winter warfare. "For the first four weeks they will have basic winter training, learn how to cope with skis and to survive in the Arctic environment," said Rune Haarstad, a Home Guard spokesman. In March, the Marines will take part in the Joint Viking exercises, which will also include British troops, he added.

As the deployment coincides with the U.S. sending several thousand troops to Poland to beef up its Eastern European allies worried about Moscow's assertiveness, Russia has been understandably concerned. However, both Norway and the US deny the notion that the deployment is meant to "irk" Russia as part of NATO’s wider campaign to oppose what it calls “Russian aggression” in Europe, by sending additional troops and weapons closer to the Russian border. A spokeswoman for Norwegian Ministry of Defence also said the arrival of U.S. Marines had nothing to do with concerns about Russia.

"It has nothing to do with Russia or the current situation" Haarstad doubled down.

Moscow disagrees. While the Russian Embassy in Oslo did not immediately reply to a request for comment by Reuters on Monday, it previously questioned the need for such a move and when the rotational deployment of US Marines in Norway was confirmed last year, Russia said it was puzzled by it.

"Taking into account multiple statements of Norwegian officials about the absence of threat from Russia to Norway we would like to understand for what purposes is Norway so ... willing to increase its military potential, in particular through stationing of American forces in Vaernes?" it told Reuters at the time.

This "for sure won't make better (the) security situation in Northern Europe," a spokesman for the Russian embassy in Oslo, Maxim Gurov, told AFP in an October email.

Norway, which is a founding member of NATO, has pledged not to host foreign forces to allay Moscow’s concerns that it could serve as a platform for a surprise attack. According to RT, for decades the Scandinavian country stashed massive stockpiles of weapons in preparation for a possible conflict, but only allowed in other allies’ troops for training purposes. Oslo dismisses the notion that the deployment goes against the old commitment, saying that American troops would be rotated rather than stationed permanently. NATO routinely applies the same reasoning to all its deployments in Eastern Europe as a way to circumvent the alliance’s agreement with Russia, which bans permanent deployments of “significant” forces near Russia.

Meanwhile, the US Marine Corps touted the practical benefits of a full-time deployment as the reason for the move. “We've been going to Norway for 25 years. So I don't really know what the hype is about,” Maj. Gen. Niel Nelson, commander of Marine Corps Forces Europe and Africa, told Military.com ahead of the deployment. “We're just doing our job, from a more economical standpoint. I don't put a lot of stock in people pointing back and forth.”

“By putting Marines in Norway and above the Arctic Circle for 30-60 days at a time, that's a whole different environment,” Nelson added. “You not only learn to survive, you are surviving. It's a harsh environment; it takes a lot of tough lessons and we reinforce that by the length of time.”

Norway and Russia share a small land border far in the north. The Vaernes base is located 1,500km from any part of Russia, but the Arctic training program involves traveling closer to it. We anticipate that the inevitable retaliatory Russian deployment of troops in proximity to the Norwegian border, will be promptly dubbed by NATO, and western media, as a provocative act.

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OregonGrown's picture

Someone needs to string that POS POTUS up FOR TREASON against the American people....... before he really starts something we cant get out of!

hedgeless_horseman's picture

"For the first four weeks they will have basic winter training, learn how to cope with skis and to survive in the Arctic environment,"

 

Those poor boys.  God forbid they have to fight.  If the Russians know anything, it is how to fight in the winter.

 

Stalingrad: The Fateful Siege, 1942–1943

by Antony Beevor

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/542389.Stalingrad

 

This is a great book.

WTFRLY's picture

Joo World Order is gonna do the war and nothing will stop that.

hedgeless_horseman's picture

 

Send those Marines wearing desert boots a copy of that book.  

Invading Russia is a bad idea.

Zee Germans had to find out the hard way. 

King Tut's picture

And Europe has been in the grip of (((Bolshevism))) ever since.

Kotzbomber747's picture

Not just Zee Germans, also the French under Napoleon.

Reading tip: "War and Peace" from Leo Tolstoy, a truly brilliant book.

fauxhammer's picture

If Reuters is reporting the Russians are angered by this, they're probably fine with it.

Transition to Trump administration fanfare is all.

Creative_Destruct's picture

Another hurried pre-inauguration event designed to try to box-in Trump before he takes the reins. Strategy: deploy on the NATO border like crazy and antagonize Russia and fire up the Deep State cronies so Trump has all these entanglements that contradict his expressed policy and occupy him and tie him up during the first 100 days.

Intent is to neutralize the first traditional 100 honeymoon period as much as possible. I think and hope it will backfire, bigtime! Trump can counter this by simply using this as a bargaining chip with Putin while he proceeds to engage him.

JohninMK's picture

It isn't hurried. THis deployment was announced months ago and their upgraded gear arrived at the end of the Summer.

BullyBearish's picture

Just witnessed a battalion of hardened Russian soldiers disembarking a non-descript airplane in Mexicali, Mexico, on the border with California.  When asked, the town mayor said they were there to brush up on their chimichanga and taco cooking skills and their presence has NOTHING to do with the U.S...

Joe Davola's picture

Napoleon found out the hard way too.  Wonder who would be our Marshall Ney (bravest of the brave) - the last man out of Russia.

- Kotz beat me to it.

Never One Roach's picture

Three white soldiers? Where'd that get that photo from ... must be old.

Kotzbomber747's picture

Artic training? Isn't Canada a lot closer for that?

Oh wait, that probably wouldn't piss off Russia that much. So much for Nobel Peace Price winner Obama...

Couldn't they throw that Nobel Peace Price on that 747 and return it to Oslo?

CuttingEdge's picture

How about taking the Peace Prize winner on that flight to Oslo, opening a door and ditching him mid-Atlantic - Osama style. Has a nice ring to it.

OregonGrown's picture

"Cant we just drone this guy"?

DullKnife's picture

Too bad Alaska has no snow or cold weather in the winter, or they could train for cold weather/snow in Alaska.

(or maybe Obama did not attend the security briefing where he could have learned that one of the 57 US States was Alaska.)

 

Bunga Bunga's picture

Skandinavian hookers are hotter.

----_-'s picture

the germans didnt really invade russia. nazis are a direct jewish construct.

nazis are the zio banker kike construct to divide europe.

 

the leader and top people of the nazi pary were all half and quarter kikes.

 

the banker kikes purposefully provoked the population of germany through demoraliszation and threat of (((blosheviks))) to join the nazi party.

once they constructed their "superstate" they miselead them to attack soviet kike union.

 

if hitler really wanted to scare the shit of the banker jew he would have purposefully surrnederd whole germany to the sovitets.

i swear the zio banker kikes would piss their pants so hard whole usa would stink like toilet.

becuase the ultimate goal of the banker kike for his plans was to create a splitted europe of an east and a west sector

AND THE CONSTRUCT OF CAT TOILET ISRAEL


Buck Johnson's picture

Yep, the hard way and they didn't have nukes at the time also.  Obama truly is trying to get a war started. 

 

Falling Down's picture

Neither the Soviet Union, or Nazi Germany, ever signed on to the Geneva Conventions. The Wehrmacht used a scorched earth poiicy, then the Russians came storming back using a total war policy. They used frozen corpses of German soldiers to fill holes in roads for their tanks and trucks to roll over.

I find it comical, and sad, that the West wants to fuck with Russia. They would wipe out large swaths of the U.S.military in a conventional war.

 

 

Jethro's picture

The Marines are there for pretty routine training. This article is essentially sensationalizing SOP.

stilletto2's picture

Agree. Bullshit article sensationalising a routine training deploy. It says no permanent stationing until now but thats false. The Uk has trained in north Norway for decades and had a permanent Marine deployment (named 'Clockwork') at Bardufoss airbase which is closer to the border than Vaernes. The RAF trained in north Norway every year and often US marines were there. I remember some great dogfight training against US f18s in Norway in the late 80's. The US armoured deployment to Poland is serious news, but this training in Norway is just the same as has happened for decades.

The Ram's picture

Not a new deployment for the Marines.  In the 80's, the Marines did frequent operations in Denmark/Norway.  Usually short term...a month or so.  Operation Bold Guard/Northern Wedding was one of those operations that I participated in the 80's. BTW, 300 troops is nothing.  That's basically a reinforced rifle company.  The old NATO Bold Guard/Northern Wedding had thousands of US and NATO troops, including quite a few Marines.  I do think that this operation is pretty useless now that the former Soviet Union is dissolved, but 300 Marines will not really threaten anything.  If you are going to invade any part of Russia, you better bring 20 Divisions and remember that your supply line is going to get stretched very thin.  Ask Hitler and Napoleon!

Peter K's picture

You are correct Ram. In the 80"s Northern Wedding was a frequent operation of the 2rd Fleet.

 

Jethro's picture

The only threat those Marines pose is to the willing, sexual promiscuity of the local female population. Fat or otherwise.

stilletto2's picture

Yes. Some beautiful ladies in that part of the world and they are really keen to find a ticket out to somewhere warmer. Lots of marines will go home with blonde babies in tow.

Happened to a RAF friend who was shocked when blonde he'd played with on deployment in Norway knocked on his door in UK a few months later to announce 'I'm having your baby and have come to live with you!'.  His wife was even more shocked!

East Indian's picture

That was during the Cold War. We were told that the Cold War is over and America has won. Why then this deployment? Obviously for another round of Cold / Blinding Flash War.

 

Not a wise move.

Xena fobe's picture

Such a sad photo.  Hope the man survived. 

booboo's picture

About a 90% chance he didn't. They made the captured army march through Moscow shitting and pissing their pants the whole match. They dehumanized them prior to killing them by the thousands. Very few made it home although Field Marshal Paulus managed to, I guess he got a extra ration of maggots. America don't have the stomach for thousands of American prisoners and singing the national anthem and politicians with flag Lapel pins won't placate the masses.

kochevnik's picture

Germans progressed to within 1km of my apartment at Konkova in Moscow.  Then we beat them back to the Eagle's Nest

musimann's picture

the frozen chosin. Here we go again. I've been up there on a NATO deployment. Its friggin cold.

New_Meat's picture

H_H

  • they aren't boys
  • this is the standard training syllabus, even reserves do it
  • it is just a Company, not even a tripwire
  • someone has to exercise all of that prepositioned gear in the caves
  • don't confuse WWII, launching human wave attacks with what could go on today.
  • don't confuse the force that can/could be fielded with last year's let alone two generations ago

For a historical reference, you could look at the Russkis trying to take a bite out of Finland at about the same time.  Little Finland ...

That's one of my reddies.  'cuz you usually get the above about the guys that one actually faces, but not this time.

- Ned

hedgeless_horseman's picture

 

Simo was defending his home, unlike what the US Marines are doing over there.

Jethro's picture

The Marines are there training...just like they have been doing for decades. When I was active duty, I went to lots of places to train.

hedgeless_horseman's picture

 

If it was really just training, not projecting force, they would do it in Alaska, USA, instead of the other side of the planet.

Jethro's picture

Well, maybe this initially began as a NATO show of force, but it is just routine now.

hedgeless_horseman's picture

 

We taxpayers are not getting our monies worth on these investments, and I would rather that Alaskans benefit from the MIC spending than Norwegians.

https://militarybases.com/alaska/

Jethro's picture

I'm not in disagreement with you. I think this is probably a vestige of some old NATO agreement.

New_Meat's picture

The guy in the middle is a Norwegian, note that he also has dark utilities on, plus a pretty beret.

musimann's picture

300 Marines can stop the whole Russian army if they drink enough piss and vinegar.

Doctor Faustus's picture

It IS a good book. So is his book on the Spannish Civil War.

BTW, cold-weather training is definitely a part of the USMC. For the 1st Marine Division, it's normally held in Bridgeport, CA. There have also been joint exercises with Royal Marines and other countries' Marine forces. Not surprised to see 2nd Marine Division conducting cold-weather training in Norway.

SoilMyselfRotten's picture

That's 300 C.F.U.'s per Henry Kissinger

(cannon fodder units)

SoDamnMad's picture

I was 50 km from Tronheim in June with the Red Cross and put my hands in a waterflow coming down from the mountaintop into the fiord and nearly froze to death the water was so cold.  Yes, Norway is the place for a mere 300 to learn how to survive in the Artic.  With the Corps as large as it is with turnover that means it will take thousands of years to train the Marines to survive in the Artic. 

musimann's picture

The frozen chosin. I've been up there on a "training exersize. It's cold as hell. Even the coffee doesn't warm you up. Still issued Korean war relic equipment. Thank God it wasn't a real war. We had so much shit to keep from freezing to death there was no room for ammo. Bang bang your dead.

redc1c4's picture

this is just more #FakeNews: the Marines have been deploying, and training in, Norway for decades...

happens pretty much every winter. they also have the montain/cold weather training base in the Sierra Nevadas up by Tahoe.

Secret Weapon's picture

Nope.  They should be on our southern border protecting us. 

New_Meat's picture

stuck with that old song "... every clime and place."