Calexit: Record Number Of Californians Support Secession, New Poll Finds

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According to a new Reuters / Ipsos poll, a record number of disaffected, Hillary-supporting Californians now support secession from the United States because they're just so "triggered" by Trump's victory.  If successful, California would become the single largest "safe space" in the world.

Per the poll, 1 in every 3 Californians now support a "peaceful withdrawal from the union," which is a substantial increase from the 20% who favored such a withdrawal the last time a similar poll was conducted in 2014. 

One in every three California residents supports the most populous U.S. state's peaceful withdrawal from the union, according to a new Reuters/Ipsos opinion poll, many of them Democrats strongly opposed to Trump's ascension to the country's highest office.


The 32 percent support rate is sharply higher than the last time the poll asked Californians about secession, in 2014, when one-in-five or 20 percent favored it around the time Scotland held its independence referendum and voted to remain in the United Kingdom.


California also far surpasses the national average favoring secession, which stood at 22 percent, down from 24 percent in 2014.

Of course, as most of the country made a shift to the right in November's election, California continued it's steady march to the left with Democrats now controlling a super-majority in both houses of the legislature. 

As Reuters notes, many Cali residents felt triggered by Trump's promises to actually enforce immigration laws and repeal Obamacare with one Democrat consultant saying that "many citizens believe it would be smarter to leave than fight."

"I don't think it's likely to happen, but if things get really bad it could be an option," said Stephen Miller, 70, a retired transportation planner who lives in Sacramento and told pollsters he "tended to support" secession.


During the campaign, Trump alienated many in the Democratic-leaning state with his promises to crack down on illegal immigration, threats of creating a Muslim registry, remarks women found offensive and vows to repeal the Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare.


"There's such hostility towards Trump that many citizens believe it would be smarter to leave than fight," said Democratic political consultant Steve Maviglio, who last year ran the campaign against a proposed ballot initiative to break California into six states.

Meanwhile, Jerry Brown recently struck a more aggressive tone saying that California was "ready to fight" with the Trump administration over climate change initiatives.

“We’ve got the scientists, we’ve got the lawyers and we’re ready to fight.”


"Some people say that they're going to turn off the satellites that are monitoring the climate.  I remember back in 1978 I proposed a satellite for California.  They called me Governor Moonbeam because of that.  I didn't get that moniker for nothing.  And if Trump turns off his satellites, California will launch it's own damn satellites.  We're going to collect that data."


And not surprisingly, Californians continue to express their frustration over their election loss with a series of never ending protests and destruction of private property...but clearly it's the fault of Republicans that they're unemployed.

On Friday, activists from the group waved signs saying "California out of the United States" and "U.S. out of California" at anti-Trump protests in Los Angeles and San Francisco, Marinelli said. They have requested approval from the state to begin collecting signatures for a pro-secession ballot initiative.


In Lodi, California, Democratic party activist Bruce Rubly, who told Reuters/Ipsos pollsters that he "strongly supported" California secession, said he thinks it
could happen if Trump and the Republicans who dominate the U.S. Congress impose conservative policies on such issues as the environment, immigration and marijuana legalization.


"There's a whole series of things that are going to get Californians riled up," said Rubly, 68. "And if he pushes those buttons in the wrong way, there's going to be hell to pay."

While Calexit will never happen, no matter how hard Cali's disaffected millennials dream it, we suspect there are about 60 million American voters between the coasts that would welcome the permanently conservative United States that would result from such a might just be a win-win.

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NumNutt's picture

GOOD!!!! Get the fuck out!!!!

peddling-fiction's picture

Zio-led secession going on folks.

J S Bach's picture

Great!  And let the witch rule over her overwhelming illegal alien popular voters!  Good riddance!

nuubee's picture

Surrendering California to the Mexicans is worse than not building a wall. Don't do it.

Syrin's picture

PLEASE GO !!   We'll help you build the wall on the east border.

El Vaquero's picture

Bye-bye, California!  Enjoy not importing oil with the USD anymore!


Psssst!  A lot of those rural areas where your food is grown went red.  We'll keep them.

Davy Crockett's picture

I'm sure the confederacy wanted to "peacefully withdraw from the union" as well.  Lincoln didn't let them.  He killed them, as well as a bunch of his own people, instead.

While I would love to watch them flounder in their socialism, without the support of the rest of the country to bale them out, I'd also welcome a chance to legally shoot at them.   Damn, I don't know what to wish for.

NidStyles's picture

Most of them are likely illegals too.

The_Juggernaut's picture

Like they can afford it.  What do you think the price tag will be for Yosemite, Kings Canyon, and Sequoia National Parks, all the wilderness areas around them, all the BLM land...?  California is up to its eyeballs in debt already, so I don't think they can count on owner financing.

fleur de lis's picture

A third of Californians want to secede? 

Most of the rest of us would be happy to help.

OfAllElaboratePlans's picture
OfAllElaboratePlans (not verified) fleur de lis Jan 24, 2017 2:46 PM

So, the next MAYOR OF NY, is gonna help CA secede aka 'escape'?


Well ~ All I can say is...


'Snake Plissken doesn't give a fuck about your war or President'

kochevnik's picture

Only to unite with Mexico....

IntTheLight's picture

Trump should declare that he will honor one state and one state only's desire to be a sanctuary city. Tell illegals they will not be deported if they move to California. Problem solved. Hypocrisy revealed.

francis_the_wonder_hamster's picture

And yet California had the 3rd most Trump voters (slightly behind FLA and TX) and the most Libertarian voters.  Do these people (me) deserve to have the rest of the country desert us and leave us to our snowflake-infested fate while we've been fighting the good fight for common sense while surrounded on all sides by progressive idiocy?

Don't abandon us America!  We don't want to end up on the wrong side of a new Berlin Wall.

Then again, go ahead.....I'm ready to move to the Caymans anyways.

Which brings up a fun point: Current US law has a $2350 fee to renounce US citizenship.  If all 40 million Californians leave, that comes out to $94 billion.  The real fun comes when Californians have to pay the excise tax (50%) on their unrealized capital gains on $4.5 trillion of real estate wealth (I'm too lazy to look up value of other financial assets).  When we consider that Cali is a "net taker" from the Federal gov't of about $50 billion (as of 2012)....well, the math works out pretty well for the rest of the country.

Xena fobe's picture

No, Cali was expecting the U.S. would pay them to leave.  It might be a great investment. 

kiss of roses's picture

They would also have to assume responsibility for their share of the US national debt. With 50+ million people that would be a hell of a tab. I think we should let them go, then when they devolve into chaos (inevitable) invade them and set up a new gov't like we did with Germany and Japan.

legalize's picture

I don't know why you think these things would suddenly be up for sale if California decides to secede.  They will double-down on left-wing stupid once they secede, not come to their senses.

Crush the cube's picture

Let them run their banana republic for a quarter century or so, and it will be one huge empty park to be re colonized.


1 out of 3 Californians, but 5 out of 4 non Californians!

SafelyGraze's picture

dear california -

exiting from the union takes a lot of courage

you should consider recruiting some neighboring states so you don't have to go it alone

it will all turn out okay. because of the principle. and because of your determination.

the confederate states of america 

Shitonya Serfs's picture

Fingers crossed. Don't forget you won't have much potable water after you leave.

DaddyO's picture

Especially when we shut of the neighboring rivers. It'll be mighty dry downstream.

The only downside is the amount of food grown, will have to ramp up production elsewhere.

Veggies instead of wheat, soy and corn?

If they do secede, better go long on the above grains 'cause the growers will go where the money is...


panhead20's picture

Careful what you wish for. California pays more in federal taxes than it receives, so all you lazy red states will have less more or more deficits if CA leaves the union.
Get real, CA nor any other state is going to leave the union. Let's discuss and solve the problems facing this country and the world.

legalize's picture

I'm calling bullshit on this and even a casual search of wikipedia backs me up:

Federal outlays by state: CA $343 billion (2013)

Federal tax revenues by state: CA $292 billion (2012)

They are $50 billion in the hole.

Crush the cube's picture

But, but, but, didn't the red states just beat ya'll to the draw?  They just succeeded, but via election.

Too fricken funny.  Day late and several $ short.

dark fiber's picture

I get the feeling California will not be "allowed to withdraw".  They will  get kicked the fuck out at gunpoint.

Got The Wrong No's picture

Then we need to figure out how to get New York City to fall into the Atlantic. MAGA

Life of Illusion's picture



de3de8's picture

Please, fucking do it already. Can't be soon enough, sucking the blood from the rest of the country.

Got The Wrong No's picture

Trump can then put an import tax on their movies, wine and food

Crush the cube's picture

Put up a wall of jamming equipment and block all signals from Hollywood.  Trade them water and power for food, all of it.

Crash Overide's picture

Imagine this, California leaves the US, forms their own country with 6 states, a giant earthquake destroys the country with the LA basin in the ocean, no US federal funds for rebuild...

Win, win, win, win...

Don't mean to be so grim but I used to live there and hate it as much as I hate my soon to be former state of Illinois.

sodbuster's picture

Damn Crash! You went from Cali to Ill. ??? You can sure pick the losers!!! LOL. FWIW- would like to know where you are headed next!!! LOL

IntTheLight's picture

If an earthquake hits, the results of having a small minority of whites will reveal how stupid they are. No cooperation or helping ones neighbor. No one aiding in the rebuilding. And lots of looting.

Shitonya Serfs's picture

Clinton Foundation could help them rebuild.

American Psycho's picture

Isn't it wonderful how the Dems now respect the Constitution?

Raffie's picture

The way I see it is let Caliexit take place.

We declare war on them, 86 all the Demoncrats that caused this, roll over the area and reclaim our country.

Shitonya Serfs's picture

New Old Mexico name is still available. Or New Israel.

Crash Overide's picture

They would name it "Safespace" and the 6 states would be:

Never Triggered

Snowflake Canyon



Blue State

Feminist Valley


Of course oil, chemicals, free speech, meat, among many other things would all be illegal.

Xena fobe's picture

All residents would have to wear scuba gear to convert carbon dioxide.  Private cars would be outlawed.  Taxes would be 75%.  At least until the gangs take over.  Then any thing goes.

detached.amusement's picture

and then jailed press who wrote about his crimes

Chris Dakota's picture
Chris Dakota (not verified) Davy Crockett Jan 24, 2017 3:28 PM

The people of this state are entitled, brainwashed Marxists.

They won't leave because they don't want off the USA gravy train.

NordikAvenger's picture

California sends more to the feds in taxes than it receives back in subidies and federal outlays (including all the social programs).  This has been the case since the late 60's.

But don't let facts inform your hatred.

caconhma's picture

People do not realize how many CA jobs are dependent of the Pentagon and various National Security Agencies (NSA, CIA, HLS, etc.,).

Just look at San Diego where one-third of the entire population is working on/for US NAVY, USAF, and Marines. 

Furthermore, all these Google, Facebooks, etc, were created on US government money to spy on Americans.

Consequently, the US government can easily move good many of these very high paying to other places in America. Furthermore, conversations that CA contributes more to the USA than it gets out of it is a total BS. CA is the major beneficiary of the US government and its agencies.



Abbie Normal's picture

Those subsidies and federal outlays don't include defense, passports, currency, etc.

Like Canada says to Quebec:  you're welcome to leave but stop using our currency, passports, etc. (actually, Quebec does have its own passport but it's only recognized by a few countries)