Trump Proposal For Syria "Safe Zones" To Escalate US Military Involvement In The Region

Tyler Durden's picture

As part of his blitz of latest executive orders, which as reported yesterday would institute sweeping changes to U.S. refugee and immigration policies including a ban on people from countries in the Middle East and North Africa deemed as a "terror risk", a separate order also lays the groundwork for an escalation of U.S. military involvement in Syria by directing the Pentagon and the State Department to craft a plan to create safe zones for civilians fleeing the conflict there.

Trump said on Wednesday he "will absolutely do safe zones in Syria" for refugees fleeing violence. According to a document seen by Reuters, Trump is expected to order the Pentagon and the State Department in the coming days to come up with a plan for the zones.

Such safe zones could provide an alternative to admitting refugees to the U.S. according to Trump, but would also force greater US military deployment to the region.

According to the WSJ, the safe-zone proposal represents a significant policy reversal from the administration of Barack Obama, who long resisted pressure for such an approach from Congress and U.S. allies in the Middle East because he believed it would draw the U.S. too deeply into another war.

Establishing safe zones in Syria would mark an escalation in America’s military involvement there. In addition to the initial military buildup that likely would be needed to create the zones, ground troops and additional air power will be needed to protect them, military officials have said. Such zones would also put U.S.-allied forces in dangerous proximity to foreign troops, including forces from Russia and the regime of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.

Confirming that Trump's proposal plays into the hands of the party that has been mostly responsible for the relentless proxy war in Syria over the past 6 years, Qatar, a backer of rebels fighting Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, welcomed Trump's pledge to order safe zones in Syria, a foreign ministry official was quoted as saying by state news agency QNA on Thursday.

Qatar's foreign ministry director of information, Ahmed al-Rumaihi, said in a statement that Qatar welcomed Trump's comments on Wednesday and "emphasized the need to provide safe havens in Syria and to impose no-fly zones to ensure the safety of civilians." Rumaihi said Qatar hoped recent negotiations in Kazakhstan would help maintain a shaky truce between Syria's warring parties and that an effective monitoring mechanism would be needed to create conditions for proposed peace talks in Geneva.

As a reminder, gas-rich Qatar works alongside Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Western nations to back Syrian rebels in a military aid program overseen by the CIA that provides moderate groups with arms and training. A natgas pipeline project connecting Qatar to Europe has been often cited as the main reason for the relentless attempts to destabilize and overthrow the Assad regime, and to impose a puppet regime that would be aggreable to the project, one which would significantly reduce Europe's reliance on Russian gas exports.

Meanwhile, Trump's other executive order curbing immigration from the region was met with concern by students, family members and governments who worried whether recently granted visit and study visas would remain valid and how they would see their relatives resettled in America. Trump’s order banning entry to the U.S. by people who come from countries deemed terrorism risks was expected to include Iraq, Iran, Syria, Yemen, Somalia, Sudan and Libya. It is a modification of a ban he promoted during the campaign regarding Muslims entering the U.S.

“What a terrible move!” Abdi Aynte, Somalia’s international cooperation minister wrote on social media.

 

In the 2016 fiscal year, 3,660 immigration visas—meant for people who are planning to move permanently to the U.S.—were issued to Iraqis, according to the State Department. Citizens of Iran, a nation considered an adversary of the U.S., were granted more than twice that number.

 

The vast majority of Iraqi immigration visas went to so-called Special Immigrants, classified by the department as those people who had worked with the U.S. government or military. Extremists in Iraq have put bounties on those who helped Americans.

Since Trump became president last Friday, the U.S. has admitted about 1,100 refugees, including 200 from Syria. Trump’s latest actions would end the current allowance of Syrian refugees into the U.S. and halt all visas to Syrians until a later time.

Trump also plans to suspend America’s entire refugee program for 120 days while officials determine which countries pose the least security risk and to implement new tests of those applying for visas. Ultimately, Mr. Trump plans to reduce the cap for refugees into the U.S. from 110,000, as set by Mr. Obama, to 50,000 for the 2017 fiscal year. His moves would suspend issuing visas to countries where the administration determines adequate screening can’t occur.

The new policy would ban people who engage “in bigotry, honor killings, violence against women, or who persecute other religions, or who oppress members of one race, one gender, or sexual orientation,” according to a summary of the plan. It also prioritizes the admission of refugees who claim religious persecution.

Comment viewing options

Select your preferred way to display the comments and click "Save settings" to activate your changes.
pods's picture

I must have missed the invite from Syria for us to come over and destroy what is left of their country?

pods

GGuy's picture
GGuy (not verified) pods Jan 26, 2017 8:57 AM

ALL HAIL J00 WORLD ORDER TRUMP

Il Dottore's picture
Il Dottore (not verified) GGuy Jan 26, 2017 9:07 AM

Here you can all see the will of the REAL P.O.T.U.S. Benjamin Netanyahu, backed by Sheldon Adelson and Kushner money.

Hell Yes America

Since the "Incident of the U.S.S. Liberty", they have infiltrated all our Media, Banks, Courts and politicians.

But now they just got  FULL CONTROL of the country.

SALUTE THE NEW ESTABLISHMENT

Ignatius's picture

I got a "safe zone" for 'em, it's called Syria: one big "safe zone" and the Syrians can handle it.

Kinda like the US is one big "safe zone"... Chicago excepted, of course.

Syria for Syrians.  Back the f#ck out gracefully, Trump.

TeethVillage88s's picture

Can they legally buy and own guns in Syria?

I doubt they can in Saudi Arabia, Guttar.

Government needs you to pay taxes's picture

Grand, more .mil adventurism.  It's nucking futs.

philipat's picture

I'm still giving Trump time to see what happens. So far it's 50/50?

Bastiat's picture

This is a big one.  No-fly zone imposed against whom?  I hope the "safe zones" aren't for US funded and supplied terrorists. 

The only way this might be OK is if it is in consultation with Syria and/or Russia.  This is exactly one of the worst proposals put forth by HRC in one of the debates. 

chumbawamba's picture

Say, what happened to all the Trump fluffer fags who heap praise and attack the detractors of his latest blunderbuss salvo? Stunned by the cognitive dissonance of your Cheeto Messiah doing the bidding of his Zionist masters, is my guess.

I am Chumbawamba.

cro_maat's picture

In my experience, the majority of ZH'ers have their consciousness awakened more than the average over-medicated and entranced sheepola. I would bet that they applaud the shift from "Deep State - NeoCon / Nazi / CFR" to "Deep State - Mafia" but are aware enough to realize that "Deep State" will fight to keep their military ponzis.

Jubal Early's picture

This could be a flalse flag fake news attack, so don't rush to judgement.  Trump is still waging war with all the Soros mini-me's laced throughout the federal bureaucracy.

I am still waiting to see the beef too, especially about Fatca, and Hillary's server, but you have to give the guy more than 4 days.

Canary Paint's picture

There are a lot of hard-ons for Trump here at ZH, and I myself found his populist sentiments and claims about pursuing non-interventionist policies refreshing, BUT... This underlines a particularly difficult to swallow point. The president, no matter who he is or what he believes, is only as good as the information and counsel that he receives because no one person can be an expert at all the things that pass across a president's desk.

I will go out on a limb here and suggest reading Fletcher Prouty to anyone listening. His books are leaning towards the realms of conspiracy theory, which is a big turn-off for some, but if his story is even half true, one gets a good sense of the influence wielded by those who brief the president on the behalf of various government agencies (and subsequently on behalf of the budgets of those agencies). One also gets a sense of the enormity of the logistical structure that exists that allows the US to launch a covert or overt operation in any part of the world. That structure is so grand that it has a life of its own almost entirely outside the comings and goings of elected officials.

ZLYman's picture

AND I have not seen anything saying that discussions with other countries wiil be held.  Syria is a mess with multiple countries.  Unilateral, imo, not much chance.  Consensus and buy-in, much better chance.

general ambivalent's picture

Chelsea Manning is a traitor? But here he is building villages for double- and quadruple-agents. Will ISIS get the best stay-behind contracts?

Shemp 4 Victory's picture

 

I got a "safe zone" for 'em, it's called Syria: one big "safe zone" and the Syrians can handle it.

Trump's advisors must be feeding him mountains of bullshit. There are already "safe zones" in Syria to which civilians have been fleeing. They are the parts of Syria controlled by the Syrian government.

Ignatius's picture

Bam!  Spot on per usual, Shemp.

whatsupdoc's picture

You do have one Congress person who did recently travel to Syria.  Just one who is willing to see for herself the truth on the ground.  I suspect that Trump might label her as an enemy agent too given the outburst on Manning.

Trump is collecting some negative ratings from his own side I should imagine.

Fun times ahead for the US of A.

FreeShitter's picture

We are gonna a throw a few jobs for the ameridumbs. meanwhile we are going to war for the bankers

//
Snípéir_Ag_Obair's picture

Bankers and Zionists control both parties.

Adelson and Kushner were big clues.

Make no mistake: Syria is prelude to Lebanon and Iran (which is still not developing nukes).

US Marines and soldier will die at the hands of CIA/Saudi/Israeli provided weapons. Breitbart will cheer this on with CNN and the rest if the judeocorporate MSM

We will need a military coup.

Read, copy, share:

http://sgtreport.com/2015/10/the-yinon-plan-greater-israel-syria-iraq-an...

http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2016/04/09/isis-is-us-israeli-crea...

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/01/how-the-us-enabled-isis-to-take-dei...

http://theduran.com/us-isis-deir-el-zour/

http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/10/12/us-caught-faking-it-in-syria/

https://mycatbirdseat.com/2013/06/the-machiavelian-threefold-game-of-the...

http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=western_support_for_islam...

cat_artist's picture

Dear sniper:

https://www.google.com/search?q=american+soldiers+injured&tbm=isch&imgil...

The use of the poor, disenfranchised, and patriotically fooled to fight the war for the rich is well known. The US is the world's biggest debtor now. And war is the fastest way to enrich the weapons makers, and increase the country's debt. The US now has a man who has never stood in front of gun, going to play chicken with a Russian who has clearly outthought, outplayed, and outfoxed the US. The man in the White House has neither the mental stability, nor the self control to win. He is too easily angered and disabled by those who disagree with him. His emotional intelligence is that of a child. As somebody who has stood in front of a gun, and behind one (ditto), you, as a sniper know full well what is coming. Mad dog it is. I used to live in Ireland. Not any more. The women in the Secret Service who said she wouldn't take a bullet for Trump will lose her job, but not her integrity. How many poor soldiers are there going to be who take one for the pols, like the soldier in the above image? Sometimes, it is better to leave the fight to those who are deluded.

Allen_H's picture

I knew izraHELL's war machine, the USSA would continue on. Just look at all the terrorist jews surrounding Trump: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vcd-yvudYSg

At 9:25 he starts the list, eye opener indeed. But it is good to watch the whole video.

Laddie's picture

Trump would NOT have been elected if he was going to do WHOLESALE disobedience to the Tribe.
He IS doing good, the wall, the halting of refugees, or at least some of them. Bringing jobs back. However, unless he also can repeal the 1965 Immigration Act the Whites are still going to be GONE. And we know the Republicans are IN THE POCKET of the Tribe, as, of course, is the Demonrat party.

What TROUBLES me is this Syrian thing, THIS is what the Tribe really wants, they want a WHITE MAN, who celebrates CHRISTMAS and Easter, GONE:

This is the man the Jews hate so much. I wonder why?

Bashar al-Assad places wreath on Holodomor monument. The REAL Holocaust!

Globalists and Neocons: Two potent forces opposing the Assad government in Syria Dr. Kevin MacDonald July 21, 2012

Golda Meir 1957 With many Hollyweirdos supported with the ADL

Jubal Early's picture

Trump is a zionist puppet, but to a faction who until now has managed to stay in the shadows.  So there is a war going on in zio-paradise.  My guess is Trump is not in the Rothschild green outside, red outside watermelon faction (communism+environmentalism).  Since he is such a real estate emperor, I would guess the greater israel at all costs faction has his back.

BennyBoy's picture

 

More fucking interference in a country thousands of miles away.

Stay out and use the money to build the fucking wall. All along the border, not a token few miles.

TeethVillage88s's picture

Turkey, Jordan, Iraq can build a wall to keep the Syrians out.

Syria can build a wall to keep them in.

Thought Processor's picture

 

 

Gotta love Tulsi Gabbard's little trip to find out what's really up there.

 

Chicks got balls.  

 

Expose the mess for what it is.  Stuff like this has been going on forever.  Look up the secret war in Laos as an example, where there were more bombs dropped than in all of WWII (and this does not include bombs dropped on Vietnam).  Crazy shit.  Genocide on a scale that is almost unimaginable.  And yet only one real reporter dug into everything to expose what was going on.

 

People need to wake up.

PeakOil's picture

Tulsi for President! Amazing woman.

Jim in MN's picture

Let the Russians, Syrians, Turks and Israelis provide the muscle.

No US Forces.  They are needed in Chicago.

Kirk2NCC1701's picture

This is the doing of Mad Dog, who never saw a war he didn't like.

That said...

The Safe Zone concept is something I suggested over a year ago, but with Syrian, Russian, Iranian and Chinese assets, as follows:

- The Chinese would build a new city close to the present city.  E.g. Aleppo 2.0.  

- Women and children would move there first, after going through extreme screening through security gates: No weapons, not even knives. Only some personal belongings they can carry.

- Men would go next. Same security gauntlet.

- Those who stay, can either surrender, or fight.  Except that ' fight' actually means that they perish in relentless area bombing, until nothing is left standing. That ends the ISIS / Rebel problem for that city.

- New city has fences, gates, motion sensors and towers, to prevent arms getting smuggled in. Anyone caught with a gun is shot on the spot.

- New city has martial law and curfews. Violators shot.

- New citizens get micro chipped and ID given. They must provide ID when getting food, medicine or clothing. Surreptitiously they also get scanned via microchip. 

- They are treated like cattle and criminals, until they learn to behave and live peacefully.

- Rinse and repeat for other cities in Syria.

chumbawamba's picture

Thank you for providing your blueprint for a totalitarian city in Syria. Why don't you instead stuff it up your ass, fly to Chicago, and then pull it out there where it actually makes sense.

I am Chumbawamba.

ZH Snob's picture

this is ridiculous.  why not simply finance IS again?  what dictates an american need to be anywhere near syria?

general ambivalent's picture

Because, "I will never, ever disappoint you."

Compare that to my quotes: "Trump will disappoint you." "I told you so, suckers." And, "I'd like to gloat, but now I fear the chance for a successful revolution has passed."

Blankone's picture

The revolution you had hoped for was to be against the zionists.  Instead they have set the stage for the revolution to be among the goy, against each other. Different groups of zionists/jews are betting on each faction in their bid to get the most profits but each of the groups of zionists/jews will profit. 

Trump is just using a version of "It's for the children" as another excuse to move US troops officially into Syria and from there will expand to take more and more ground.  This was all predictable when Putin was too timid to declare a no-fly zone and thereby control the future events. 

 

Kirk2NCC1701's picture

What happened to EXTREME VETTING instead?

If we are indeed concerned about keeping the bad ones out.

Keeping them out and extreme vetting of the few we let in, is the cheaper and sensible way to go -- although it's unclear to me why we'd need to let in one more person, when we've let in Sony already many already.

DuckDog's picture

It's official Trump and Clinton work for the same people, No Fly Zone is the exact same as Safe Zone. Keep buying Ammo and Guns people, stock up with supplies at home shit is about to get real

general ambivalent's picture

Coincidence that Al-CIAda just launched a series of attacks escalating tensions in Syria?

brain_glitch's picture

If that is true then he is indeed the fall guy. Under his watch shit will hit the fan and nationalism will be blamed. Globalism will come and save the day.

DuckDog's picture

It's official Trump and Clinton work for the same people, No Fly Zone is the exact same as Safe Zone. Keep buying Ammo and Guns people, stock up with supplies at home shit is about to get real

Bavarian's picture

And I must have missed the declaration from Trump during the entire political campaign where he stated we would allow Russia to fight ISIS in Syria. 

WTF is going on?

Lynx Dogood's picture

Dear President Trump,

 Why exactly do we need to do anything in Syria? Have we been invited by that country or are you invading a sovereign nation for the sake of keeping up apperances? Due to the prior US role in funding and supporting ISIS/ISIL to overthrough Bashir Al Assad for the sake of puting a US interest owned pipeline through Syria from Saudi Arabia to Europe, and then allowing US interests to gain ownership of said mineral rights (please see Libyian oil interests and who owns them after the Gadaffi overthrow). Please clarify our interests in said country as I fail to se how this will make America Great Again. It appears that Syria with the help of Russia & Iran have it covered.

 

Why also did you fail to put Saudi Arabia on the new imigrant ban list? Their history of building Mosques and funding radiacle jihadists in the US is well documented, in and outside of the US. Please look into CAIR while you are at it.

Regards

A US Citizen

Krungle's picture

I must have missed the part where invading Syria makes America great again. You were on a good roll there Mr. President, but this and continuing arms sales to the Saudis are not in America's interest. Please review your campaign pledges again and get back to focusing on America. There is absolutely no reason to send Americans in to be killed to remove the democratically elected leader of another country that has pretty much zero to do with the US. 

halcyon's picture

US GTFO Syria. You broke it on purpose. Dont be a dick and try to 'fix' it. Putin can do that. And Trump, stick to fuckin US.

therealestg9's picture

Hillary's no fly zones and Trump's safe zones are one and the same. If anyone still doubts if there is indeed a layer of power and control that exists above the level of the President, then open your eyes. THE HOUSE ALWAYS WINS.

wildbad's picture

zackly !!!

unless Assad and Putin are brought into the decision.

spanish inquisition's picture

Wait! Isn't this approving sancutary cities in Syria?

BorisTheBlade's picture

Who knows if Syria can be put back together after such long and bloody conflict.

upd: And no, there was no prior consultation with Russia on the matter, seems a unilateral decision.

syzygysus's picture

Exactly my thoughts when I saw 'safe zone'.

 

we're screwed.  McCain and Graham will get their WWIII.