Trump Administration Releases Map Of Proposed Border Wall

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As the Trump administration mulls the cost (and payments) for 'the wall' with Mexico, some have suggested the barrier be extended a little...

h/t The Lonely Libertarian

A proposal for California to break away from the United States has been submitted to the Secretary of State's Office in the state capital. If it qualifies, it could trigger a vote on whether the most populous US state should become a separate nation. As RT reports, the group behind the proposal, Yes California Independence Campaign, was cleared on Thursday by Californian Secretary of State Alex Padilla to begin the bid to collect some 600,000 voter signatures required to put the ambitious plan on the ballot, AP reported.

The initiative would ask voters to repeal part of the state constitution that declares California an “inseparable part of the United States of America.”


Being a US state is “no longer serving California’s best interests,” the movement claims.


Not only is California forced to subsidize this massive military budget with our taxes, but Californians are sent off to fight in wars that often do more to perpetuate terrorism than to abate it. The only reason terrorists might want to attack us is because we are part of the United States and are guilty by association. Not being a part of that country will make California a less likely target of retaliation by its enemies,” the campaign argues, among other things.


“America already hates California, and America votes on emotions,” Marcus Evans, vice-president of Yes California told to the Los Angeles Times.


“I think we'd have the votes today if we held it,” he added.

It must submit the valid voter signatures by July 25 to qualify for the November 2018 ballot.

The number of Californians who would rather see their state a sovereign nation than part of the United States jumped to 32 percent, a new Reuters/Ipsos opinion poll showed earlier this week. In 2014, it was only 20 percent.

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SloMoe's picture

Pretty much covers it, although I'd kinda like to get Baja in exchange.

HopefulCynic's picture

So fucking delusional, a fucking political ploy to gain more fucking cult adepts.


Fuck the Fucking Fuckers!

tmosley's picture

>Letting coastal cucks have part of Jefferson and the Inland Empire

No, the wall will be longer, but it will go along the coast, keeping the good people in the US.

evoila's picture

The electoral college without the weight of California for the Democrats. LOL

Really though, there might be something to this. The central bankers would have a new place to put a central bank, and it in itself would be the 5th largest economy in the world. I would say that is pretty good motiviation to have CA cesede. 

Motasaurus's picture

I support all movements of succession from the super state in all parts of the world by all people's who want it. I hope California goes. And I hope the rest of the United States welcomes everyone whois flees from the new nation before closing the border and cutting off all the water that flows from the US into the new nation.

ACP's picture

As an added plus, useless people from all over the US will be moving to the new Socialist Utopia of Mexifornia (SUM).

localsavage's picture

If it happens, my guess would be that there will be a lot of skilled people looking to move.  I can't imagine that they would stay just to become the funding source for Northern Mexico.

Dabooda's picture

Hey, the wall doesn't need to be any longer than 50 miles.  Put it around Washington DC & let the inmates eat one another.

Keyser's picture

They only need 600k votes, easy peasy... Just have Pepe, Jorge and Ramos, along with all their relatives in Mexico to vote for this initiative... Mexifornia doesn't care if the votes are from citizens or not... 

Save_America1st's picture

I've had an idear on how to deal w/ northern Mexico for over a decade.  Here goes...see whutchya'll think.

Just annex northern Mexico.  Tell Mexico that since they can't control northern Mexico from the drug cartels or protect their own people from thousands and thousands of murders a's a fucking war zone, people.  Then the good 'ol U.S. of A. will take care of all that land for them.

The Mexicans want to be in America anyway, right?  So we make them part of us, we protect them, clean house and wipe out all cartel scumbags dead on arrival, and build a wall at the same time. 

Here's the best part...we only have to build about a 600 mile long wall through Mexico at first while also securing our own true border.  Mexico is shaped like a big funnel basically, right?  So the further south we go taking their northern territory, the more narrow the Mexican land mass gets. 

If you draw a straight line from Brownsville, Texas to Mazatlan, Mexico I think it's about 600 miles.  So just build a straight fucking wall from point to point.

And we also take Baja Mexico as well. 

We go in w/ the military and start wiping out all drug cartels hard-core.  Annihilate them.  Tell whoever is left they have a short amount of time to get south of the new 600 mile border or be destroyed.  Of course also doing our best to protect all the innocent Mexican people who just want to live in peace with us and not have to leave their homes or cities in the new territory that we will control.

Build that wall.  600 miles is a helluva lot easier than building a windy wall along the true border which is like 2100 miles, right?

If Mexico doens't like it, then too fucking bad.  They can't clean up the shit in their front yard, then too bad.  We do it and we tell them we'll keep the territory for 100 years and then can negotiate returning it to Mexico again if they can prove that they can handle it.

That smaller area will be a piece of cake to defend rather than our entire true border of 2100 miles and it gives our souther border a YUUUUGE buffer zone of serious desert if any kind of army thinks they're going to come through there to ever invade the contiguous 48 states.

Anyways...I figure why not?  What's Mexico gonna do about it?  They clearly don't give a fuck about their people anyway and have let that whole territory be taken over by ruthless drug cartels and are allowing illegal invaders to flood our true border not caring what-so-ever about being a good fucking neighbor with us.  So screw 'em.  Take the land and secure the fuck out of it once and for all the easy way.


And about that map above with the proposed wall around California....bad idear.  We don't need to chop off all of California.  The northern counties above the San Fran-scumbag area are good peeps and beautiful land and coastline.  Plus we don't wanna lose the Tahoe area either, right bitchez???

So draw a straight line from the coast area above San Fran to the East about half way and then go right down the middle of the state keeping the entier Sierra mountain range on our side (the good side) all the way down past the Salton Sea and over to Arizona.  Plus we take Baja Mexico too, bitchez.

Let those libtards have the rest for all we care.  They'll be eating each other within 3 to 6 months and once they burn out and nothing's left then we just come back in and clean the joint up and make it Great Again...bitchez. ;-)


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OfAllElaboratePlans (not verified) Save_America1st Jan 27, 2017 7:19 PM

Boxer & Feinstein as 'slumlords' of MEXICO


Occident Mortal's picture

California would be pretty dumb to split from USA just because of political disagreement.


The Federal Government would drain a whole lot of wealth from california in the run up to any split

macholatte's picture


After Cali is separated from America can we use extreme vetting to keep them out and deport people from California?


Ms. Erable's picture

DPRK (Democratic People's Republic of Kalifornia) would financially implode within 2 years without all of the social security/SNAP direct payments to duh peeple; anyone outside of the libtard hives of Frisco/Silicon Valley, Sacto, and LA that has gainful employment not dependant on a .gov contract would leave shortly after secession - which leaves employees paying taxes to pay their own salaries, plus all of the FSA bennies.

Because that always works out well.

N2OJoe's picture

1) Let Kalifornia vote on secession

2) Shorten the border per Save_America1st's idea

3) March into Kalifornia and deport everyone who voted to secede

4) Prosper

I usually support secession movements too but seriously, fuck California and fuck Californians. They deserve this for the shit slide they've pushed the rest of us down.

OpTwoMistic's picture

Calli could become a great place for war games. House to house search and destroy.

Chris Dakota's picture
Chris Dakota (not verified) OfAllElaboratePlans Jan 27, 2017 9:20 PM

CAEXIT is a La Raza and Mex gang move, and involves BANK OF CHINA!

Man you better read up, shit.

Uzda Farce's picture
Uzda Farce (not verified) Chris Dakota Jan 27, 2017 11:38 PM

Never much "common sense" from that source. See the archives.

BarryTheBolshevik's picture

Dave Hodges is a fucking two bit schill, providing cointelpro fantasy fear porn..
I wonder how that Chechen takeover of Colorado is progressing. Last week he was yapping about Russian militants carrying out a red dawn style attack in northern Colorado:
There was also supposedly a huge onslaught of Syrian refugees and other terrorist slements spilling across the southern border, as of last week.
Muahahahaha .

Herd Redirection Committee's picture

CIA already runs Mexico.  Who you think sells the cartels guns, hmmm?

Who you think launders those drug proceeds?

How exactly did Carlos Slim go from worth $6b to $60 in less than a decade?

espirit's picture

Only if they use the U.S. prison population to build the wall. Escapee's can choose sides.

TahoeBilly2012's picture

I pretty much exactly suggested the same map. Basically State of Jefferson stays in US as a new state and SF, Stockton and South of Yosemite goes into Mexifornia.

Save_America1st's picture

Yep....make northern Cal and the southern Oregon counties who want to join them the State of Jefferson that they've wanted for decades.  We split off the rest and call it Venezuelifornia since that's what it will decay into anyway.

Nevada and Arizona will expand their borders West to the mountain boderline essentially keeping their same shape, and Jefferson becomes our new 50th state. 

We still have an even 50 and we won't even have to re-do the flag :-)

OpTwoMistic's picture


How much wall do we need around the CIA?  The CIA is a larger drug source than Mexico.

The Mexes could easily put down the drug cartel and probably will when the US border closes.

nc551's picture

Just turn off the tyranny of the drug war and the cartels go away.

HillaryOdor's picture


I stopped reading here,"Tell Mexico that since they can't control northern Mexico from the drug cartels"

The cartels are in bed with the corrupt criminal Mexican government and the corrupt criminal US government.  The CIA has been running the global drug trade for decades, and the Brits before that.  Catch up.

If Trump really wants to drain the swamp we need trials and public hangings, not political theater.  We know what these scumbags have been up to.  Now release everything so the little sheep will stop going on about how it's all just conspiracy theory.

jeff montanye's picture

your analysis of the cause and cure of the drug problem is more elaborate, and bloody, than necessary.

end the prohibition.  regulate and tax like alchohol.


wallstreetaposteriori's picture

We should just treat them like we did Cuba for all these years.  Sanctions, Sanctions, Sanctions.  Let them rot in hell for this treason.

Croesus's picture

I don't even live in California, but I'll be voting for it...twice. So will my grandparents, God rest their souls. "I learned by watching Dems".

NidStyles's picture

California would collapse without the rest of the US to prop it up.


Let them leave, we will take it back at a later date anyways.

MalteseFalcon's picture

Cali isn't going anywhere.

I invoke Lincoln and the spirit of 1861.

It would be a cakewalk, over in the month.

After war crime trials, the reconstruction might take a decade or more, but in the end, a partitioned California would be fit for re-admittance to the union.

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Chris Dakota (not verified) Keyser Jan 27, 2017 10:24 PM

Just came from grocery store, 3 mexicans with filled to brim basket.

Paid with credit card, then I looked closer it was EBT card.

$260.00 we all just paid for

3 generations from 60 to 10 push away FREE stuff.

KnightTakesKing's picture

Hey ZeroHedge, can ya fix the Firefox javascript bug that keeps us from up and down voting? It's been like this for months now.

old naughty's picture


Make America great again, by building The Great Wall of La Mexicana !?

petar's picture

I would see this scenario as a HUGE WIN for MEXICO!

lucitanian's picture

Remember Texas. Another small secessionist movement there, as I've heard. It's fine now, but if all the hoopla about US first and building walls to trade or people blows up in the face of this administration's in the form of a major financial and economic collapse (which is not that unlikely), it may not be the minority of Texas that considers secession, but the majority. What then? Eventually will it be a wall to keep the third world USns in their debt ridden, dead petrodollar has-been Empire, in, or the Mexicans, Texans and Californians etc. out, I wonder? Just a thought. I wonder.

Let's wait and see, as they say!

booboo's picture

We could watch foreign movies from now on, that would make us hicks cultured woodnt itz?


espirit's picture

...and they could eat sealz.

greenskeeper carl's picture

I hope they will be consistent with these beliefs. If they think they should be able to break off from the United States if a majority of people there want to, surely they won't have a problem with the rural areas that grow all the food and are overwhelmingly red leaving the state of California afterwards. Fair is fair, right, liberals?

HungryPorkChop's picture

California couldn't leave even if they wanted. It's hilarious even to consider... They have very limited natural resources which they can't touch due to all of their own environmental laws.  Electricity costs and energy costs would skyrocket!!.  Due to their debt they'd immediately undergo very high to hyperinflation.  It would be an absolute mess.  Gas would be $8 / gallon and electricity costs would double and triple.  House prices would get slammed lower.  All the IPO's on Wall Street that help build Silicon Valley would dry up overnight.  And lets not even go into all the Federal workers and their pensions..

They may not like Trump but in the end, all they can do is get mad.  Their state is highly in debt, penisons underwater, highway infrastructure relying on federal money, IPO's relying on Wall Street and that severly limits their options.  They don't even have a car manufacturer outside of Tesla that wants $80,000 for a set of wheels. 

If they didn't have the U.S. dollar and it's reserve status they would be in serious trouble starting tomorrow morning at 8am.

ReadyforLiftoff's picture

The border is wrong. I doubt the Feds will give up our largest naval base. Not giving up all of the Federal land.  Easier to wall up the damn cities and let all the libtards fight it out. Gun confiscations will begin immediately once the tards have full control (Read El Presidente Brown= Pol Pot). Cage up the sanctuary cities and let them kill each other for a while and take it all back once the stupidity has run its natural course. 

espirit's picture

Nah. Any invading force would have to cross an ocean, then the Nevada desert.

We'll hold them at the Mississippi River.

SmokeyBlonde's picture

Serious questions: Why can't the US just have Guatanimo II in San Diego?  And ports become much less important under #MAGA Doctrine, don't they?

Save_America1st's picture

I think they're main plan is to just rely on the porn industry to get by as long as they don't have to use condoms of course. ;-)

Refuse-Resist's picture

My friend, do not underestimate the power of virtue signalling in the underdevoped hypothalamus' of shitlibs.

It's like an opiod hit according to recent studies.

To put it simply, shitlibs are addicted to the feeling they get when they virtue signal. Funny the strongest 'signallers' live in the whitest possible areas.

Real fuckin' funny.

People with real experience vis a vis diversity know the truth and don't give a fuck about feels. They understand reality, pain, death, crime, and the alien nature of the illegals' culture.