What Trump's Wall Says To The World

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Submitted by Patrick Buchanan via Buchanan.org,

“Something there is that doesn’t love a wall,” wrote poet Robert Frost in the opening line of “Mending Walls.”

And on the American left there is something like revulsion at the idea of the “beautiful wall” President Trump intends to build along the 1,900-mile border between the U.S. and Mexico.

The opposition’s arguments are usually rooted in economics or practicality. The wall is unnecessary. It will not stop people from coming illegally. It costs too much.

Yet something deeper is afoot here. The idea of a permanent barrier between our countries goes to the heart of the divide between our two Americas on the most fundamental of questions.

Who are we? What is a nation? What does America stand for?

Those desperate to see the wall built, illegal immigration halted, and those here illegally deported, see the country they grew up in as dying, disappearing, with something strange and foreign taking its place.

It is not only that illegal migrants take jobs from Americans, that they commit crimes, or that so many require subsidized food, welfare, housing, education and health care. It is that they are changing our country. They are changing who we are.

Two decades ago, the Old Right and the neocons engaged in a ferocious debate over what America was and is.

Were we from the beginning a new, unique, separate and identifiable people like the British, French and Germans?

Or was America a new kind of nation, an ideological nation, an invented nation, united by an acceptance of the ideas and ideals of Jefferson, Madison, Lincoln and Dr. King?

The Old Right contended that America existed even before the Revolution, and that this new nation, this new people, wrote its own birth certificate, the Constitution. Before Washington, Madison and Hamilton ever went to Philadelphia, America existed.

What forced the premature birth of the nation — was the Revolution.

We did not become a new nation because we embraced Jefferson’s notion about all men being “created equal.” We became a new people from our familial break with the Mother Country, described in the declaration as a severing of ties with our “brethren” across the sea who no longer deserved our loyalty or love.

The United States came into being in 1789. The Constitution created the government, the state. But the country already existed.

When the Irish came in the mid-19th century to escape the famine and the Germans to escape Bismarck’s Prussia, and the Italians, Jews, Poles, Greeks, Slovaks came to Ellis Island, they were foreigners who became citizens, and then, after a time, Americans.

Not until decades after the Great Migration of 1890-1920, with the common trials of the Depression, World War II and Cold War, were we truly forged again into one united nation and people.

By 1960, almost all of us shared the same heroes and holidays, spoke the same language and cherished the same culture.

What those with memories of that America see happening today is the disintegration of our nation of yesterday. The savagery of our politics, exemplified in the last election, testifies to how Americans are coming to detest one another as much as the Valley Forge generation came to detest the British from whom they broke free.

In 1960, we were a Western Christian country. Ninety percent of our people traced their roots to Europe. Ninety percent bore some connection to the Christian faith. To the tens of millions for whom Trump appeals, what the wall represents is our last chance to preserve that nation and people.

To many on the cosmopolitan left, ethnic or national identity is not only not worth fighting for, it is not even worth preserving. It is a form of atavistic tribalism or racism.

The Trump wall then touches on the great struggle of our age.

Given that 80 percent of all people of color vote Democratic, neither the Trump movement nor the Republican Party can survive the Third Worldization of the United States now written in the cards.

Moreover, with the disintegration of the nation we are seeing, and with talk of the breakup of states like Texas and secession of states like California, how do we survive as one nation and people?

Old Europe never knew mass immigration until the 20th century.

Now, across Europe, center-left and center-right parties are facing massive defections because they are perceived as incapable of coping with the existential threat of the age — the overrunning of the continent from Africa and the Middle East.

President Trump’s wall is a statement to the world: This is our country. We decide who comes here. And we will defend our borders.

The crisis of our time is not that some Americans are saying this, but that so many are too paralyzed to say it, or do not care, or embrace what is happening to their country.

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logicalman's picture

The controllers of the US (Not the government puppets) are the ones trying to put Skynet in place.

Most of the US population have no fight in them.

Best saying shit while you are alive, you tend to lose your voice when you die.


swamp's picture

The world
The world
Is NOT ine unit that thinks as one unit.
Stupid start. Premise is amiss

MalteseFalcon's picture

<- The last spasm of a dying empire.

<- New beginning of American Prosperity


drendebe10's picture

Good riddance Californuabeanerville.

neidermeyer's picture

The wall is a necessity to stop the invasion.. not just illiterate short fat women that clean toilets in commercial buildings ... but the drug cartels products.. heroin , cocaine , MJ ... Having a real border will effectively defund CIA black ops funded with drug sales , the Mexican cartels and might allow patriotic Mexicans to take back their country. 

Bill of Rights's picture

Fuck you? just guessing of course. But then I look around at all the idiots in this Country and I say is it worth saving and do we really deserve Mr Trump.


Seems to me the ( Animals ) Prefer the chains than their freedom.

aliens is here's picture

USA belongs to citizens not illegals. GO F off and make their own country great.

daveO's picture

They'd have to evict the Catholic church first.

logicalman's picture

They'd have to find a way to break from The Squid first.

Hulk's picture

I say we build it with old boards and stain it with used 30  weight motor oil to properly reflect our financial condition.

Its what my grandparents would have done ...

cheech_wizard's picture

So a row of outhouses along the southern border?


NoPension's picture

My neighbors are great. 

But, they keep their business on their property. 

And, I keep mine, on mine.

Fuck Mexico, and Central America. Been exporting their problems our way for too long. We've got plenty to deal with already. 

BTW, I'm all for an organized and LEGAL worker program, if needed. No anchor baby crap, no welfare of any kind.

Also, most American citizens, if they were aware of our illicit tampering in those countries affairs, would be vociferously against it. It was done without our knowledge, mostly. 

Dr. Dooms-a-lot's picture

It is a trick. The wall will be used to keep you in when TSHTF.

nevertheless's picture


Mike Masr's picture

When TSHTF will people be heading to Mexico or north into Canada? I don't see any plans for a great Canadian Wall.

Dr. Dooms-a-lot's picture

They don't need a wall made of brick on the Canadian border. There is a wall made of limited production farm land. You can't grow enough food for everyone in the frozen tundra.

dogismycopilot's picture

Trudeau is air freighting refugees in. Canucks are fucked. Queen sold them out to the rapefugees

ebear's picture

LOL!  We have a natural wall.  It's called WINTER.

Bill of Rights's picture

Ehh if the shit hasn't hit the fan up to this point I woulndt wait for it anytime soon.

Bill of Rights's picture

Ahh yee old " Famous last words " speak.


2000  the worlds coming to an end

2008 the worlds coming to an end

2016 the worlds coming to an end


Any day now we swear. Still I up voted you keep on fighting the good fight.

NoPension's picture

Just remember....when you are dealing with an EXPONENTIAL fuckup, you are literally only half way there, just before it whacks you.


It's that last doubling that knocks the shit out of you. And that halfway point, coupled with linear thinking... makes you always think you have more time.

heuvosYbacon's picture

Innit. Men have lost ships, and the like.

Snaffew's picture

lol....I guess I'll crawl by the Mexicans coming in through the thousands of tunnels underneath "The Great Wall".

yttirum's picture

How's that? We have oceans on both sides of the country and on the Southern border. There is Canada to the North. We have a population that is armed to the teeth and those rights are being expanded. This wall is the equivalent to a 2" valve on a 10,000 gallon pool. C'mon, man. 

Dr. Dooms-a-lot's picture

The oceans are wonderful natural barriers.  The ocean is an incredibly hostile environment; think of it as an endless desert that you can drown in.   It takes a lot resources and know-how to cross an ocean. There are very few vessels that can do it. No re-fulling stations in the middle of the Atlantic or Pacific.

Yes some can do it but these globalists think generationally they don’t care if a few escape they can farm more. 

See my post about the limited food production in Canada.

The only way out is through the Gulf of Mexico and that is easily patrolled.


cherry picker's picture

It is a sad day in this 21st century people attempt to put up a barricade that is easily enough traversed in a expensive symbol to all peoples that they are not welcome on one side of the wall.

What it tells me, if people aren't welcome in the USA, I guess the rest of the world can fend for itself and may prosper in doing so.  I am on Mexico's side in respect to this.  It is a slap in the face from one nation to another.




FireBrander's picture


It says:







IridiumRebel's picture

When people debate me, it is simple to shut them down upon this. I ask if they can go to Canada and just start to work. They say no.

WhT is so hard to understand. Immigrate here, but do it legally.

analyst123's picture

yeah, i think the idea of stop illegal immigrant is great, but to build a wall for that purpose is utterly stupid... i guess hoover dam, trump wall...

FireBrander's picture

A 2000 mile monolithic wall is a dumb idea; but a barrier in certain areas in needed.


Put the word out that if you come here ILLEGALLY, you will be sent back across the same border you ILLEGALLY crossed!

And...if you cross pregnant, and your child is born here, that child is not a US Citizen and both of you will be humanely sent back to wherever you originated.



NoPension's picture

That child is already NOT a US citizen, by virtue of being birthed here.

 " under the jurisdiction thereof.....

 If the parent is here illegal, they are NOT under US jurisdiction.

Answer this.....

   If a FOREIGN AMBASSADOR is here, on duty, and has a child... Is that child therefore a US Citizen? 


ebear's picture

"A 2000 mile monolithic wall is a dumb idea; but a barrier in certain areas in needed."

I keep hearing about this wall, but I've yet to see a description of it.  How high, what's it made of, who will build it, etc.   Seems to me a sturdy double fence with remote monitoring and strategically placed patrol stations should be sufficient.  Why won't that work? 

nevertheless's picture

I agree with the first sentence, not the second.

The wall is a joke on the American people, a symbol of American stupidity for all the world to see. We build it, they scale it, nothing changes. No conversation about work place enforcement, a real remedy. 

There is a reason America is in the shape it is, because we don't want to sacrifice anything. We want everything, and we want it now. 

I am no fan of Mexico or Mexicans, every nation, America included has the right to secure borders. 

But alas this is more about hyping conflict, which may be the reason Trump was allowed to win.

cherry picker's picture

I used to go quite often across the border, it wasn't a pain.  In the last 20 years it has gotten to the point everyone is viewd as a criminal and mostly treated that way until 'cleared'.

I don't go anymore.

stampman's picture

I've gone across for nearly 40 years and it was always that way.

Mike Masr's picture

I went to my Chicago grocery store Jewell on Tuesday. Ninety percent of the people in this Jewell store were talking in Spanish. The lady in front of me in line had two shopping carts overflowing with food. She held one infant and had three children under five years of age tagging along. She used a link card that was no good. The lady spoke no English so the cashier spoke with her in Spanish. The other lady with her dug into her purse and offered up a different link card. They paid using the second Link card and went on their way. First thought-are they US citizens? Are they illegals? Second thought - why am I and other hard working US citizens paying for this? 

When my family came here from Europe they learned English, found employment and assimilated. They bought their own groceries. What am I missing here?         

hotrod's picture

I live north of Gainesville Georgia in the country.  Go to Gainesville.  YOu will see what you described.  Even where I live, on certain days of the month I am by far the minority in the Walmart Grocery section.  ALL THE KIDS.  Got to be on purpose to repopulate the USA with Latins.  Using our tax dollars to take over the country.  Latins in California have already made it clear their plans to control California.  Wake up people

FireBrander's picture

You "are paying for this" because thier husbands are working working at low wage, no benefit jobs which is making COPORATE AMERICA INSANELY RICH!

TV Show "Undercover Boss"; Kendall-Jackson Winery episode.

Long story short...bulk of employees are illegal immigrants working for nothing...Kendall and Jackson are BILLIONAIRES!

YOU pick up all of the social costs of illegal immigrants (Mediciad, link cards)


"According to Forbes magazine, Mr. Jackson’s wine business made him one of the 400 richest Americans, with a net worth exceeding $1.8 billion last year."

But don't worry, Jackson will add a 10th pool to his estate and that will trickle wealth down upon then rest of us....



NoPension's picture

So they said on that episode, the employees were illegal?

I find that hard to believe.

Or, were you just making our point for us? 

Wall. E verify. Fuck Jackson.

I'll pay $2 more for my chicken.

If our country only works with illegal semi slave labor, we'll lets put it to the test. If that's the case, let the motherfucker burn to the lugnuts.

  Let the lazy fat stupid fucks starve! 

Trump was elected, just for this...by people who feel like me.

stampman's picture

"What am I missing here?"

103 years of zionist financial infiltration via counterfeiting, promoted and protected by the zionist mainstream media, zionist nepotism and zionist legal chicanery, to the point where people who do not belong here are being given everything you have for free.

That's what you are missing here.

Duc888's picture



Fuck Messico, if they had ANY fucking pride they would fix their country to the point where one quarter of it's citizens would not seek to work and live in the neighboring country.


I HOPE Messico is totally humiliated and embarassed.  They need to look inward and fix their own MESS.

estebanDido's picture

Trump instead of using his few brain cells trying to solve important issues, like the Fed Reserve destroying the economy, is wasting time pleasing a few idiots.

dogismycopilot's picture

Ok go to Saudi or Qatar or Switzerland. See how welcomed you are there.

Fucking idiot.

stampman's picture

A bike camper is in town.  He has a two seater, and a cat is the rider in the other seat.

stampman's picture

It's a very, very well deserved slap in the face, and if it were up to me, there would be a good hard kick in the nuts to go along with it.

What part of GTFO do you not understand, bum?

Then there is your shitmouth hero, Vicente Fox ....

Herdee's picture

Mexico may now be developing in a way that's not safe for American tourists. There's a lot of anti-American hysteria being whipped up right now.