Homeland Security Official: "Nobody Has Any Idea What Is Going On"

Tyler Durden's picture

Suggesting that little execution planning went into the implementation of Trump's controversial executive order temporarily banning the admission of refugees and travellers from seven countries, less than 24 hours later the impact was already resonating at airports around the world and could best be summarized in one word: confusion. It was most evident at New York's John F. Kennedy International Airport where a dozen people were detained and some separated from family members, according to lawmakers and attorneys scrambling to get them released and struggling to interpret the new rules.

Two of the 12 are Iraqi refugees, and one of them — identified as Hameed Khalid Darweesh — was released Saturday afternoon following his detention, said New York Rep. Jerrold Nadler. "I am very, very thankful to all the people who can support," Darweesh told reporters as he was surrounded by dozens of protesters carrying signs that read "Refugees welcome" and "No ban, no wall."

"America is the greatest nation," Darweesh added. "America is the greatest people in the world."

Nadler said it was unclear why Darweesh was released while the other 11 remained held at the airport Saturday afternoon. They could be transferred to an immigration detention center in New Jersey to meet with immigration lawyers, Nadler added. As NBC reports, although Darweesh was detained upon arrival into the United States, his family was not — showing how the executive order is being enforced so "arbitrarily," said Mark Doss, a supervising attorney at the nonprofit International Refugee Assistance Project. The organization is part of a group attempting to secure the release of the two Iraqi refugees.

The men, who were identified in a lawsuit filed by the American Civil Liberties Union as Darweesh and Haider Sameer Abdulkhaleq Alshawi, whose wife and child are lawful permanent residents of Houston. Alshawi is on a "follow to join" visa, according to the ACLU. The two Iraqi men arrived on different flights and were held after the executive orders came into effect at midnight.

In an attempt to mitigate the confusion, a senior Trump administration official told reporters that the two Iraqi men, which included Darweesh, were getting waivers allowing them to stay in the United States, however it was unclear whether the remaining people detained at Kennedy airport would also receive such waivers.

But the best indication of just how little planning apparently had gone into the execution of the Trump EO came from a source inside the DHS itself.

As NBC reports, the State Department and Customs and Border Patrol on Saturday were still devising the formal rules for who is eligible for waivers — such rules were not written up before the executive order was implemented. The Trump administration also has yet to issue guidance to airports and airlines on how to implement the executive order. "Nobody has any idea what is going on," a senior Homeland Security official told NBC News.

The official said it would have been "reckless and irresponsible" to issue guidelines before the executive order was signed because of security reasons.

Meanwhile, as reported previously, the International Rescue Committee called the decision to halt the U.S. refugee resettlement program a "harmful and hasty" decision: the United Nations refugee agency and International Organization for Migration called on the Trump administration to continue offering asylum to people fleeing war and persecution, saying its resettlement program was vital.

In Paris on Saturday, French Minister of Foreign Affairs Jean-Marc Ayrault said Trump's orders "can only worry us." "Welcoming refugees who flee war and oppression is part of our duty," Ayrault said in comments carried by Reuters.

Qatar Airways issued a statement on its website that said nationals from Syria, Iraq, Iran, Sudan, Somalia, Yemen and Libya may only travel to the U.S. if they are in possession of a resident green card or specific visas usually granted to government employees, individuals traveling to the United Nations or employees of international organizations.

Tech giant Google also issued a statement Saturday revealing its worries about the executive actions.

"We're concerned about the impact of this order and any proposals that could impose restrictions on Googlers and their families, or that could create barriers to bringing great talent to the US," the statement read. "We'll continue to make our views on these issues known to leaders in Washington and elsewhere."

Then moments ago, Apple CEO Tim Cook said that Trump's immigration order "is not a policy we support."

None of this, however, frazzled Trump who explained "it's not a Muslim ban, but we are totally prepared." The president addressed media gathered in the Oval Office on Saturday afternoon as he signed three new executive orders on lobbying, a plan to defeat the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) and a reorganization of the National Security Council. 

"It's working out very nicely. You see it in the airports, you see it all over. It's working out very nicely and we are going to have a very, very strict ban and we are going to have extreme vetting, which we should have had in this country for many years," Trump said.

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DuneCreature's picture

They're here........

~~``!! ~~~ STASI - USSA - Watch What You Say Comrade! ~~~ !!``~~

The secret police have arrived, people. ..... On the books and off.

Who wants to be the first USSA Commissar of your neighborhood?



Get in early for the best seat at the table.

Live Hard, George Soros Will Probably Add Bonuses To The Best Performing Informants, Die Free

UndergroundPost's picture

Typical Leftist Globalist response not to know what's going on. It's called SMASHING The GLOBALIST AGENDA!

DuneCreature's picture

I'm all for rounding up them before they round up all of us.

Live Hard, Better Watch The Videos To See Where This STASI Shit Is Coming From, It Isn't In The US Constitution, That's For Certain, Die Free

~ DC v4.0

a Smudge by any other name's picture

"Nobody has any idea what's going on." The truest words we ever heard from DHS.

Crash Overide's picture

Pause button...  We need to sort out who is coming and going into our country from certain countries, this is completely reasonable and the responible thing to do. Most of the world has stricter immigration rules than the US but we don't hear about that.

Crash Overide's picture

How many "refugees" has saudi arabia taken in again?

madashellron's picture

And they have tens of thousands of air conditioned tents empty in the dessert.

HRH Feant's picture
HRH Feant (not verified) madashellron Jan 28, 2017 7:43 PM

100K tents that are used for 2 weeks a year.

And your point is valid.

man of Wool's picture

Why yoy not blocked Saudis eh???  Stopping Muslims my foot.

Just a gimmick policy to pacify the white plebs. 

canisdirus's picture

As I explained elsewhere: No point. Saudis are radically pro-American, anti-terrorist, and people traveling there have no opportunity to become radicalized due to laws surrounding issuing of visas. Saudi Arabia is similar to North Korea in being closed to the outside world.

booboo's picture

It has to start somewhere at some time, this is what happens when the rules change now get fucking busy dhs and get your paid powder puff blue wearing lazy asses in gear or get fucking gone.

The Wizard's picture

True, the government needs to be more selective. However, if you had been issued a legal visa and are on a flight in the middle of the poorly executed order, then being detained for no good reason, you would be pissed. What the government should do is allow all of those who have legally received visas to let them come. If further investigation needs to take place into their backgrounds, do it. But don't detain them with legal visas.

DeathMerchant's picture

Leftist pukes who thought about going to Canada after Trump was elected were told by Canadian authorities that they must have waiting employment in Canada or have a critically needed skill such that they could find an immediate job. Canada does not provide social welfare for non-citizens.

A Nanny Moose's picture

Sucks to be Lena Dunham then. Perhaps she could take the actor to waitress path?

canisdirus's picture

Yeah, like Mexico, which frustrates the hell out of me. On one hand they print pamphlets to help people illegally immigrate to the US, exploit birthright citizenship laws, etc, while on the other they have radically strict illegal immigration laws (mainly directed at those from further south); they'd lock me up in a Mexican prison for years before deporting me if I was caught working down there illegally.

DuneCreature's picture

The first three tiers or levels in the command chain know exactly what's going on there. ... It's called a stealth Muzzie takeover (I shit you not).

Everyone below that level? .... About 1 in 20 have figured it out and are soiling their panties about it. ... The rest? ... Dumber than a box of rocks or 'in on it'.

Live Hard, I Would Can The Whole DHS Agency Tomorrow Morning If I Was Trump, Die Free

~ DC v4.0

Anarchyteez's picture

Suddenly realizing they are at work and have a job to do.


greenskeeper carl's picture

"International Organization for Migration called on the Trump administration to continue offering asylum to people fleeing war and persecution"


If fleeing 'war and persecution' is the standard, you could apply that to 10's of millions of people across the MENA region. How many people, in total, live in Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Somalia, Yemen, Libya, etc? DO we let ALL of them in? I've yet to get a real answer, anywhere, to that question.

two hoots's picture

You got your orders, make something happen even if it is wrong, you know the intent.  Or better yet we should fire your ass.   How did you make it to "senior" anyway...never mind I had to remind myself you are a remaining  last government employee. Would voluntarily serve as a Trump hatchet man.

DuneCreature's picture

Ok, faxuhammer is drinking and you're not drunk enough.

Live Hard, The Bar Is Over There, Tell The Keep To Set You Up One On Me, Die Free

~ DC v4.0

peddling-fiction's picture

Are you drinking with Mrs. Dune?

I heard there is good moonshine in that neck of the woods.

I drink alone, yeah, with nobody else. Thorogood


DuneCreature's picture

You? ... I thought you were a choirboy.

Live Hard, OK, I'll Buy You One Too, But Be Discrete When You Tell The Barmaid, I Don't Want This Thing Going Viral, It's Early And I'm On A Budget Here, Die Free

~ DC v4.0

peddling-fiction's picture

You can consider me a warrior monk of sorts.

Even Jesus drank. Heck, he knew what was coming, as I do.

From time to time I drink redwine.

No hangover, no headache.

Life is good.

I like beer but it has to be good beer to buy it myself.

A wine bottle costs me less than 3 bucks here.

How much does a six pack of beer cost in the States these days?


DuneCreature's picture

Well, actually Ms Creature is tending bar tonight (so she's not drinking) and I'm home watching the ranch and fasting so I'm not drinking tonight either. ......... But we are both beer drinkers when we are in the mood to party and drink or not party and drink.

Plenty of moonshine in these parts but I rarely partake. Probably been a couple or three or more years since my last shot of peach double run. ......... Believe it or not, I drink for taste not effect. ... Light weight lager Tecate from MX is my favorite poison.

And your favored beverage would be?

Live Hard, First Rule Of Drinking, Never Drink On An Empty Stomach, Second Rule Of Drinking, Never Empty A Full Stomach WHILE Drinking, Die Free

~ DC v4.0

peddling-fiction's picture

Good craft beer, like red classic ale, is up there on my list. But if offered any other, I will drink it without whining like a snowflake.

Single malt. Glenmorangie (cheaper yet good single malt) and Islay Malt Whiskies that are quite expensive.

Red wine, ranging from tempranillo (many times used for months old wine straight from the cooperative), to one year wines as well as aged wines.

Freixenet Brut for bubbly. <-- Good champagne without the high cost.

WillyGroper's picture

i find the privatized mercs with no oath very disturbing as was the maps.

DuneCreature's picture

Billions and billions of dollars sloshing around with no good purpose in mind. .. How do you measure training for secret operatives? Everything is a big secret and a big skim. ... Paying and arming bullies that are unaccountable but they can drag you to jail and seize your property?

This is all going in a very bad direction. ..... People in this country are going to get a taste of what the rest of the world gets to deal with when the US military/CIA/contractors show up to bring them democracy.

Live Hard, Bad Juju And No Recourse But Violence Or Flight, Die Free

~ DC v4.0

WillyGroper's picture

cannot disagree with 1 syllable.

the challenge will be the discernment of who's who when tshtf.

DuneCreature's picture

It would be nice to avoid that SHTF thing.

I hoping we can take this bomb apart piece by piece and not drop anything to make it go off. ... Webb, Sessions, Trump, all the way through the hundred and fifty one steps to disassembly.

Maybe we can even let the air out of the economy real slow. .. You just never know what kind of amazing tech might come along at just the right time to help us.

We need some real law and order first. ... Getting the ship turned to run with the wind is the number one thing on the agenda. .. She's coming around slow,.....but she's coming around. .. Slow is good.

Live Hard, The Pirates Can't Come Up On Deck And Form Any Raiding Or Boarding Parties If We All Make Them Keep Their Heads Down Throwing Things At Them, Die Free

~ DC v4.0

Jim in MN's picture

Damn that was very sensible.  SKOL, I mean, OLE, I mean, uh, YAAAA-HOOOOOOO!

DuneCreature's picture

Sounds like kind of a risky long shot, doesn't it? ..... If you have a better idea,..I'm all ears. ...... I've been known to change tactics on the fly.


Live Hard, Options, Always Have Options, Die Free

DC v4,0

cowdiddly's picture

Oh my lord He just signed the EO like yesterday. geeze. Don't worry your little heart buddy. Shit ALWAYS rolls downhill.

You did'nt seem to have any problem making up a bunch of shit and procedures against me for over 3 hours without so much as an explaination the last time I tried to re-enter AS A PASSPORT CITIZEN.

ipsprez's picture

Totally incredible how intentionally daft the left is. First calling it a Muslim Ban, did any bother to read the order, second, expecting something this big to roll out without a few hiccups. I support this executive order 100%. Unlike Prime Minister Trudeau of Canaada, Merkel of Germany, Cook of Apple, Dipshit of Facebook and a host of other "humans' I do not support those who engage in acts of bigotry or hatred (including “honor” killings, other forms of violence against women, or the persecution of those who practice religions different from their own) or those who would oppress Americans of any race, gender, or sexual orientation.

Ballin D's picture

Tyler is not doing much better in this post. He's either deliberately misreporting/misrepresenting what the detained guy said when he was released or Tyler just watched the abridged cnn cut of the interview and didn't do his research.  Darweesh explicitly said he likes Donald Trump. Tyler is spinning it as if he's speaking in support of the protests.

Txpl9421's picture

If we waited for the idiots to "write up" procedures, we'd be waiting for ever.

jm's picture

What else is new? These clowns haven't been able to find their own arses for eight years now.

Fire the lot of these idiots and put people in that care to do their job.

CrankyCurmudgeon's picture

Kinda like the Republicans with an Obamacare replacement. Only 8 fucking years and they've got nothing.


DeathMerchant's picture

Dependent upon senior social safety net programs supported by democrats are we ???

consider me gone's picture

Wow, rule of law. Whoda thunk?  It's been so long, people forgot how to enforce them.

CrankyCurmudgeon's picture

Garbage. Stopping a green card holder from re-entering is wildly beyond anything that would have been considered legal any time since they started issuing green cards. Somebody with a green cards is "a legal permanent resident" of the United States. St. Ronald would have shit a brick at that.

Trump is making not just Obama, but FDR look like a total executive order wuss. He's coming up on the"gold confiscation" one really really fast.

Max Cynical's picture

Really? Obama was giving out green cards like fucking candy.

Chart: Obama Admin. On Pace to Issue One Million Green Cards to Migrants from Majority-Muslim Countries


Max Cynical's picture


In the latest instance of the Obama administration’s neglect and indifference toward America’s immigration problem, around 20,000 green cards have been wrongly distributed or contained false information.

The DHS report highlights that at least 19,000 green cards were issued with either incorrect information or sent in duplicate, while the USCIS also received over 200,000 complaints that cards had either been sent to the wrong address or not received at all. 

Furthermore, the OIG report found that over 2,400 immigrants who had only been cleared for two-year conditional residence status were inadvertently issued cards that don’t expire for 10 years.


Urban Redneck's picture

You should have "read the law" before posting that. Pelosi is a bitch, not a divinity.

8 USC 1201

(h)Nonadmission upon arrival Nothing in this chapter shall be construed to entitle any alien, to whom a visa or other documentation has been issued, to be admitted?[1] the United States, if, upon arrival at a port of entry in the United States, he is found to be inadmissible under this chapter, or any other provision of law. The substance of this subsection shall appear upon every visa application.

(i)Revocation of visas or documents After the issuance of a visa or other documentation to any alien, the consular officer or the Secretary of State may at any time, in his discretion, revoke such visa or other documentation. Notice of such revocation shall be communicated to the Attorney General, and such revocation shall invalidate the visa or other documentation from the date of issuance: Provided, That carriers or transportation companies, and masters, commanding officers, agents, owners, charterers, or consignees, shall not be penalized under section 1323(b) of this title for action taken in reliance on such visas or other documentation, unless they received due notice of such revocation prior to the alien’s embarkation. There shall be no means of judicial review (including review pursuant to section 2241 of title 28 or any other habeas corpus provision, and sections 1361 and 1651 of such title) of a revocation under this subsection, except in the context of a removal proceeding if such revocation provides the sole ground for removal under section 1227(a)(1)(B) of this title.

8 USC 1185

(d)Nonadmission of certain aliens Nothing in this section shall be construed to entitle an alien to whom a permit to enter the United States has been issued to enter the United States, if, upon arrival in the United States, he is found to be inadmissible under any of the provisions of this chapter, or any other law, relative to the entry of aliens into the United States.

DeathMerchant's picture

Here's one of several reasons you can lose your green card and be deported:

Vote as a Supposed U.S. Citizen

U.S. citizens are granted more rights than lawful permanent residents (LPRs). They are allowed to work in sensitive government positions, law enforcement, and other restricted jobs that LPRs cannot. Citizens can also vote and serve on juries. If an LPR misrepresents his or her status as a U.S. citizen in an effort to vote, he or she can lose his green card.

Be particularly careful when renewing your driver's license. Under what's known as the "Motor Voter" Act, people can register to vote when obtaining or renewing their drivers' licenses. But the motor vehicle officials don't always know the difference between a USC (United States Citizen) and LPR, and may encourage you to register even if you're not eligible. If you then use your driver's license to vote, you may become deportable.

brushhog's picture

NBC news uncovers negative story about Trump administration....shocking! LOL

Boris Badenov's picture

What were they doing at the airport? Why were they there? That's the first clue.

Squidbilly's picture
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Duc888's picture



EGGAACTLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY   ++++++++++100000000000000000000 upvotes.

A fucking bullshit organisation WITHOUT a fucking mission, see my post above!

Time to cut the fucking FAT from FEDGOV.  Everyone in DHS gets a fucking pink slip!  Monday!