War With US Becoming A "Practical Reality" Chinese Military Warns

Tyler Durden's picture

In the harshest warning yet that China is actively contemplating a worst case scenario for its diplomatic relations with the US, a senior Chinese military official said that “a war within the president’s term’ or ‘war breaking out tonight’ are not just slogans, they are becoming a practical reality.The remarks, first reported by the SCMP, were published on the People’s Liberation Army website in response to the escalating rhetoric towards China from America's new administration, and as Beijing braces itself for a possible deterioration in Sino-US ties, with a particular emphasis on maritime security.

The commentary written by an official at the national defence mobilisation department in the Central Military Commission - which has overall authority of China’s armed forces - also called for a US rebalancing of its strategy in Asia, military deployments in the East and South China Seas and the instillation of a missile defence system in South Korea were hot spots getting closer to ignition.

The People’s Liberation Army, quoted by SCMP, said in a commentary on its official website last Friday, the day of Trump’s inauguration, that the chances of war have become “more real” amid a more complex security situation in Asia Pacific.

China's sabre-rattling then peaked earlier last week, following an unconfirmed report that China's military moved long range ICBM closer to the north east border in Heilongjiang province, within firing range of the US. As reported here, Chinese social media carried pictures claiming to show the Dongfeng-41 advanced intercontinental ballistic missile system near the Russian border.

Provocative state-run tabloid The Global Times suggested the People’s Liberation Army could have leaked the photos on social media as a warning to Mr Trump. However, Chinese President Xi Jinping has also recently called for the reduction of nuclear weapons.

The most recent deterioration in US-Sino diplomacy follow a statement by Trump spokesman Sean Spicer who told a press conference on Monday that the US would prevent China from taking over territory in international waters in the South China Sea. Spicer told the press “the US is going to make sure that we protect our interests there,” when asked about US President Donald Trump’s position on the South China Sea. “It’s a question of if those islands are in fact in international waters and not part of China proper, then yeah, we’re going to make sure that we defend international territories from being taken over by one country,” he said.

Foreign ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying responded by telling the US “to be cautious in what it says and does, so as to avoid harming the peace and stability in the region.”

The Chinese military is constantly prepared for possible military conflict whoever serves as US president, but Donald Trump’s possible “extreme approach” against China was dangerous, according to analysts.
Ian Storey, a senior fellow at ISEAS-Yusof Ishak Institute in Singapore, said some of the comments from Trump’s key advisors and appointees suggest that the US may pursue a more hardline policy against Beijing in the South China Sea over the next four years.

“As it’s highly unlikely that China will compromise its sovereignty claims in the face of US pressure, we can be sure that the dispute will increasingly become a risky point of contention between Beijing and Washington,” he said.

The comments come as President Xi Jinping is overseeing massive reforms within China’s military to improve its fighting capabilities. A huge reshuffle is also underway in the military’s top brass. Vice-Admiral Shen Jinlong, commander of the South Sea Fleet, is to replace retiring Admiral Wu Shengli as chief of the PLA Navy.

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CaptainObvious's picture

Don't you just love Newspeak?  "People's Liberation Army", ha. 

The Saint's picture
The Saint (not verified) CaptainObvious Jan 29, 2017 10:19 AM

The Chinese military has been wanting to have a skrimish with the U.S. for quite a while.  They have not seen active duty for so many decades and they are itching for a fight to test their forces in battle.

They should try a less foe first because it won't go well for them with the U.S.

 

johngaltfla's picture

Mattis didn't waste any time with a deep inland raid into Yemen overnight practicing for the war:

1 US Special Forces Commando Killed, 4 Wounded in Raid on AQAP in Yemen
Manthong's picture

In sales, it is always good practice to go to war with your best customer.

Ignatius's picture

Don't Dongfeng me, bro!

BullyDog's picture

John Pilger,

The coming war on China.    

 

Is more than an eye opener.

Pure Evil's picture

So, the red chinese bring out the LongDongFeng-41.

Anybody bother comparing it to the Russian Topol?

Seems to me I heard a rumor somewhere that said all asians have little pricks.

I guess we'll have to start carrying rulers around to see who has the biggest Dong.

eforce's picture

The Protocols is quite clear, universal economic crisis, revolutions in Europe.

Probably China as well because they aren't a democracy.

FreedomGuy's picture

Go back to your basement.

Max Hunter's picture

If there is any country that wants to kill the US standard of living, it is China.. I worked for 2 chinese companies.. I assure you, nothing keeps them up at night with anger more than the salaries they have to pay to Americans here.. 

Al Armed's picture

There is a saying in China: a tiger and a wolf can't live on the same mountain, meaning: there can only be one top dog. For the Chinese, it is existentially imperative that they are top dog.  It's all about "face". Therefore, it must be military.

Escrava Isaura's picture

Manthong: In sales, it is always good practice to go to war with your best customer.

Another misleading propaganda by a Hedger, go figure.

About 75 per cent of the world's people live in Eurasia, and most of the world's physical wealth is there as well, both in its enterprises and underneath its soil. Eurasia accounts for about three-fourths of the world's known energy resources."

http://www.takeoverworld.info/grandchessboard.html

 

 

Manthong's picture

Maybe the ChiComs should consider…

If they kill 200 million of us and we kill 900 million of them; statistically we win.

And our immigration problem will be solved,

Escrava Isaura's picture

You ought to know, and understand that It’s not that simple. US consumes about 20% of the world’s resources while having 5% of the world's population.

If the world can manage that the US can cut its consumption, say to 10%, that will free up about 5 million barrels of crude oil, and many other resources a day. That oil alone is almost half of China’s 1.3 billion people current consumption.

In summary, if the US consumer would spend  just 100% more than what they produce, instead of 300%, the world would get a major kick the can for themselves.

 

 

NidStyles's picture

The US feeds half the planet as well.

 

We don't just consume to consume you idiot. We consume to keep the UN and the violent dictators happy and off our backs.

 

Escrava Isaura's picture

NidStyles: The US feeds half the planet.

C’mon honey. U.S. does not feed half of the planet. Where do you Libertards learn this nonsense?

The US produces half of world corn and soybean, BUT, with a caveat: If corn and wheat were left to the markets, forget the planet, Americans would be going hungry.

According to the Farmers Weekly report below a staggering figure of nearly 70% of US soy bean value now comes from the US government. This has caused a 25% increase in soy planting in the US since 1998, and a consequent collapse in world oilseed prices.

https://www.organicconsumers.org/old_articles/gefood/govtsoyloans.php

China is responsible for 90 percent of the vitamin (C) consumed by Americans, 78 percent of the tilapia, 70 percent of the apple juice, 50 percent of the cod, 43 percent of the processed mushrooms and 23 percent of the garlic.

http://www.americanmanufacturing.org/blog/entry/the-u.s.-imports-a-lot-of-food-from-china-and-you-might-be-surprised-whats

Now if you look all the food that the US imports, your statement is totally false.

https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/us-food-imports/

My advice: Stop repeating the propaganda you’re fed and do some research.

 

TheAntiProgressive's picture

Standard Progressive idiology.  And the US GDP is what?  Maybe you can invent a method to produce something physical and not consume anything physical.  I will wait breathlessly for an educated answer.

TxExPat's picture

Think they are looking for something on a slightly smaller scale.  Right now they have some "social unrest" problems due to the fruits of the 'One Child" policy.  About 50 Million more men than women in their late teens/early twenties.  (No real social Security, a son is supposed to take care of his parents in their old age, a daughter helps take care of her husbands parents, hence many 1st born girls were "still born").

Getting into a sharp conventional (non-nuclear) war that killed off up to 50 million men or so might appear as something of a relief to the goverment in China...  (Although the melt up from killing off that many "single offspring" of families would open another can of worms...).

Sorry China, no good solution to that paticular problem...

 

Joe Sichs Pach's picture

So if the US opts to stop importing Chinese crap I'm sure their free and open society will flourish with all their domestic wealth and consumerism.

Escrava Isaura's picture

It’s obviously that you either doesn’t understand  or that it never crossed your mind that China is more than capable of fraudulent debt-credit schemes to prop up their consumption. 

 

yogibear's picture

China is souding more like North Korea every day.

Joe Sichs Pach's picture

"China is more than capable of fraudulent debt-credit schemes to prop up their consumption."

Sure, but to who's benefit?
All those vacant cities are doing wonders for their citizens.
Their propped up society is failing. Remove foreign consumer dollars and it's done.

Luc X. Ifer's picture

Even if China decides to severe the ties with US economically and politically on short notice like 24h or tweeter, and supposedly a war is not going to occur, China will survive and be there for the next 5000 years. About US - I can't be even remotely positive on a 5 months timeline.

FreedomGuy's picture

You cannot do it forever. Economics are like the laws of physics and eventually the books will have to balance.

Justin Case's picture

They started moving in that direction years back. 2nd most millionaires live in China and Bently is doin smoken business in China.

Chinese consumption (the amount of stuff people buy) is expected to grow 9 percent a year through 2020, according to the Boston Consulting Group. Overall, the consumer economy is forecasted to grow by 55 percent, to US$6.5 trillion. That’s an increase of US$2.3 trillion – which is like adding a new consumer market 1.3 times larger than the current consumer markets of Germany or the U.K. And that’s assuming that China’s GDP will grow by 5.5 percent a year, which is lower than the projected growth of 6.5 to 7 percent a year.

AVmaster's picture

No china....

 

Large swaths of infantry(that you use to claim to have the largest military in the world 3 months out of the year) is about as obsolete as the steam trains you fuckers still use...(yes, they still use steam trains in china)...

 

Go in your corner and cry...

brown_hornet's picture

Just to play devil's advocate...the steam trains will still run after an EMP.

AVmaster's picture

That's great and all but the stuff they are delivering will be worthless.

Justin Case's picture

A China Railway Group-led consortium and XpressWest Enterprises LLC will form a joint venture to build a high-speed railway linking Las Vegas and Los Angeles, the first Chinese-made bullet-train project in the U.S. 

Construction of the 370-kilometer (230-mile) Southwest Rail Network will begin as soon as next September, according to a statement from Shu Guozeng, an official with the Communist Party’s leading group on financial and economic affairs. The project comes after four years of negotiations and will be supported by $100 million in initial capital.

China is designing its next generation of trains that can carry passengers at a top speed of 500 kilometers (310 miles) an hour and cargo at 250km/h, with wheels that can adjust to fit different track gauges used around the world.

While Amtrack keeps falling off the tracks.

Luc X. Ifer's picture

Dude, it is infantry what matters at keeping the control on the ground; you can pee on your aerial forces, all they could is launch bombs and the bombs are going to run out fast then, US infantry will become cannon fodder for the chinks.

Kayman's picture

Escrava

Manthong made a specific and valid point.

You excreted generalized blather.  Go away.

Escrava Isaura's picture

No, he did not.

Neither did you.

 

Yog Soggoth's picture

More people per sq. mile does not make a country richer, quite the opposite. I do agree that China has made huge gains in mineral wealth, noteably Aghanistan, Zimbabwe, and Costa Rica. That could change now that we are not governed by a terrorist group.

ChemtrailPilot's picture

The Chinese hivemind can saber-rattle all they want. The fact is we would annihilate them in a shooting war held today and they know it. They're just terrified that Trump is going to put the kibosh on their currency-manipulating, IP-stealing, US-job-destroying shenanigans for good.

If America's enemies and rivals aren't throwing tantrums and shitting their pants then the President isn't doing his job. President Trump is doing a great job.

The Ram's picture

Yes, this would be true in general, but here's the rub.  To keep the US consuming at Wallmart, Best Buy and other big box stores, the Chinese will have to 'dump' (ie, sell below production cost) all their goods.  In fact, they are probabaly dumping most of their stuff now.  America is becoming poorer.  No dount about it.  Also, if Trump moves to on-shore some jobs, that is also a kick in the crotch with China.  To keep the mercantilist game going, China has manipulated its currency, the rub here is that China's people lose puchasing power.

So you see, over time, China risks a domestic uprising as its people become poorer and poorer.  They build ghost cities in the meantime to keep the game going. Their options are running out as they continue to run-up debt and devalue their currency to help deal with the debt and make Chinese products affordable to a growing impoverished western world.  The cycle is quickly ending.  They will choose domestic unrest or war.  The Chinese are well aware of what a peasant uprising can do.  So, I think I know which way they will choose.  The US may win the war, but the loses will be staggering on both sides.  Of course, this is what world wars do.  They 'creatively' destruct to allow new growth.  Rinse and repeat every 30-70 years.

 

paperstreetsoapco's picture

Um, since 1971 the US has been the #1 currency manipulator.  all China did was peg to the dollar.

edotabin's picture

Doesn't change the fact that this is exactly what China is worried about. They know that a steep decline in exports means major trouble and social unrest. It is very hard to control people that have seen such rapid change in their lives. If you try to take them back to how things were 20-30 years ago there will be serious problems. Hence the big talk.

fockewulf190's picture

Any American transnational company producing in China better have a Plan B and be ready to execute it immediately.  You saw what happened to Japanese property a few years back when the Chicoms released the nationalist crowds onto the streets.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PPeNopVkx4  

Yog Soggoth's picture

Surprizing how many people on a market site would miss that fact about their own currency, although for it's size Switzerland must be way up that chart. Maybe he is a millenial. They don't teach economics or history now.

The Ram's picture

Of course, the US is a currency manipulator.  I did not say that we were not.  It's the game.  It's how you deal with massive debt.  Everyone is playing the same game, albeit at a different level.

kellys_eye's picture

If the purchase of small electronics items is considered then the Chnese MUST be dumping as I can get stuff from them at a DELIVERED price (to the UK) that I can't even buy for the cost of postage locally!!!  Power supplies for <$10 (minimum cost in the UK would be >$60+) - it costs $10 to send an EMPTY BOX here in the UK....... FFS!

Paper Mache's picture

Totally agree. Look how they dumped their steel. The impact of dumped Chinese steel had such a huge effect on the steel industries in the West. Fucking slitty eyed snakes. 

Manthong's picture

“Mattis didn't waste any time with a deep inland raid into Yemen overnight practicing for the war:
1 US Special Forces Commando Killed, 4 Wounded in Raid on AQAP in Yemen

Are you sure it wasn’t a Saudi/British Jet and US bomb that hit them?

 

johngaltfla's picture

Pentagon confirmed one Osprey hit by ground fire during operation.

Colonel Klink's picture

The Osprey platform sucks, period. I remember a number of them going down during testing and trials.

All the frailties of a helicopter with ZERO benefit in my opinion. Just build a better helicopter for transport. The Osprey isn't it.

Manthong's picture

I don't think that reef they spent so much money on would last long.

 

Chris Dakota's picture
Chris Dakota (not verified) Manthong Jan 29, 2017 10:30 AM

Yeah, yeah, yeah..if your military is anything like your products..well, ya know what I mean.

Manthong's picture

..but they do have an old Rooskie carrier