Putin Accuses Ukraine Of Violence Flare Up, Extorting Cash From US; Trump Response Awaited

Tyler Durden's picture

One of the more troubling geopolitical stories in the past week has been the renewed flaring of fighting in Eastern Ukraine, which culminated yesterday with Kiev accusing Moscow of shooting at its military transport airplane while flying over the Black Sea, an allegation Moscow denied. To some, this has been a test by Putin to gauge US resolve in condemning what the western media is quick to dub Russian provocations; to others this is merely the sad continuation of events unleashed with the violent presidential coup in Ukraine two years ago.

Whatever the ultimate strategy, on Thursday Russian President Vladimir Putin preempted the first argument, and accused Kiev of provoking this week's flare up in fighting in eastern Ukraine, saying it was a ploy to win the support of the administration of U.S. President Donald Trump. Putin said that the Kiev government provoked the latest escalation of violence in east Ukraine as it needs money from its Western partners, which is easier to achieve when a nation pretends to be a victim and facing aggression.

“The Ukrainian leadership today needs money, and the best way to extort money is [to do that] from the European Union, from certain countries in Europe, from the United States and international institutions, presenting itself as a victim of aggression,” Putin said.

The Russian leader made the comments during a joint press conference with Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban in Budapest.

Putin also noted that after supporting a particular candidate in the US presidential elections – hinting at Hillary Clinton – the Ukrainian government is now seeking to establish closer ties with the new administration under Donald Trump.

“The Ukrainian opposition has been more active amid clear [government] failures in the economic area and social policy,” Putin said. He noted that the ruling elite in Kiev is now seeking to silence the opposition and “mobilize” people around the government, which is easier to achieve “against the background of a renewal of some conflict.”

For now, the biggest question remains unanswered: what side of the Ukraine-Russian conflict will the new US State Department under Rex Tillerson side with, and will Trump slam the alleged Russian violence as his predecessor was so quick to do on virtually every single occasion.

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Il Dottore's picture
Il Dottore (not verified) Feb 2, 2017 12:25 PM

This is the man. Shaping the history to the next level.
Next battle.... fucking the jews about Iran, you read it here first

Ghost of Porky's picture

Extortion? Didn't we already steal all their gold?

Ignatius's picture

Look, Russia invaded Ukraine.  Are we gonna wait until Putin's tanks are surrounding the White House and takes Melania hostage while teasing Baron Trump on Twitter?  Are we gonna stand by while Putin tosses puppies into volcanos simply to amuse his twisted mind?  Let me be clear, Putin has continued to enforce the prehistoric notion of binary sexuality as propagandized by the Eastern Orthodox church, and must be stopped.  Sexual reassignment surgeries could be delayed for decades unless immediate action is taken.

BennyBoy's picture

 

Ukraine takes a predictable page from the Political Hacks Handbook.

Putin exposes which page it's from.

SoDamnMad's picture

Radio Liberty (I thought that was our propaganda channel) stated that the Kiev forces moved into towns in the gray area between the lines.  The came in trucks disguised as a local pig farm and jumped out suddenly, over-whelming the startled insurgents who fled.  The Donesk forces attacked to retake the town and "then it was off to the races" with escalating fighting.

SRV's picture

If the rumors are true... it seems his mother did indeed wear Army Boots... no shit!

SmittyinLA's picture

 Russia invaded Ukraine....like 600 years ago  its a lil late to protest after more than half the Crimea  women have Russian kids

Caleb Abell's picture

Sadly, the warmongering by the Russkies against the peace loving Ukies and yanks looks like it will never end.  They are monsters.  The worst part is that the Russian distraction has taken the Pentagon's eyes off of the ball.  Namely, the deadly Threat From The North: The Eskimos.

While we are sending our troops around the planet to spread the joy of freedom, we may wake up to find that we didn't leave enough resources in the US to prevent the dreaded Skimo-Cong tanks from rolling all the way down to Collins Avenue in Miami.

Also, regarding the delay in sexual reassignment surgery, will that apply to shark sexual reassignment surgery??? Sharks have two penises and it's always good to have a backup.

Shemp 4 Victory's picture

 

The worst part is that the Russian distraction has taken the Pentagon's eyes off of the ball.  Namely, the deadly Threat From The North: The Eskimos.

As we speak, they are organizing a referendum in Alaska to secede from the US and then petition Moscow to join the Russian Federation.

The Inuit code name for it is Project Iced-Krim.

SoDamnMad's picture

We need more people who can listen to the Inuit drums and translate what they mean.  Last time I listened it sounded either like "we need to roast Sarah Palin" or "a new shipment of beer arrived at the general store".  

bh2's picture

All nations have a right to govern themselves as they see fit and without demands from others to conform to different social norms.

The reason we cannot stop being constantly engaged in hostilities and outright war is that people with views like yours are always eager to force others to comply with their own arbitrary beliefs.

The impetus for war always comes from leftist ideological insistence that we have an "exceptional"  mandate to order the rest of the world around however we prefer.

Mike Masr's picture

Russia never invaded Ukraine. You must have your head up your ass.

Furthermore, I am a Russian Orthodox Christian and I don't give two shits about trannies, or any LGBTQ cause!!!

Crimea’s reunification with Russia

The Republic of Crimea and Sevastopol, a city with a special status on the Crimean Peninsula, where most residents are Russians, refused to recognize the legitimacy of authorities brought to power amid riots during a coup in Ukraine in February 2014.

Crimea and Sevastopol adopted declarations of independence on March 11, 2014. They held a referendum on March 16, 2014, in which 96.77% of Crimeans and 95.6% of Sevastopol voters chose to secede from Ukraine and join the Russian Federation. Russian President Vladimir Putin signed the reunification deals March 18, 2014.


http://cluborlov.blogspot.ru/2014/08/how-can-you-tell-whether-russia-has...

 

How can you tell whether Russia has invaded Ukraine?

 

You be the judge. I put together this helpful list of top ten telltale signs that will allow you to determine whether indeed Russia invaded Ukraine last Thursday, or whether Thursday's announcement is yet another confabulation. (Credit to Roman Kretsul).

Because if Russia invaded on Thursday morning, this is what the situation on the ground would look like by Saturday afternoon.

1. Ukrainian artillery fell silent almost immediately. They are no longer shelling residential districts of Donetsk and Lugansk. This is because their locations had been pinpointed prior to the operation, and by Thursday afternoon they were completely wiped out using air attacks, artillery and ground-based rocket fire, as the first order of business. Local residents are overjoyed that their horrible ordeal is finally at an end.

2. The look of military activity on the ground in Donetsk and Lugansk has changed dramatically. Whereas before it involved small groups of resistance fighters, the Russians operate in battalions of 400 men and dozens of armored vehicles, followed by convoys of support vehicles (tanker trucks, communications, field kitchens, field hospitals and so on). The flow of vehicles in and out is non-stop, plainly visible on air reconnaissance and satellite photos. Add to that the relentless radio chatter, all in Russian, which anyone who wants to can intercept, and the operation becomes impossible to hide.

3. The Ukrainian military has promptly vanished. Soldiers and officers alike have taken off their uniforms, abandoned their weapons, and are doing their best to blend in with the locals. Nobody thought the odds of the Ukrainian army against the Russians were any good. Ukraine's only military victory against Russia was at the battle of Konotop in 1659, but at the time Ukraine was allied with the mighty Khanate of Crimea, and, you may have noticed, Crimea is not on Ukraine's side this time around.

4. There are Russian checkpoints everywhere. Local civilians are allowed through, but anyone associated with a government, foreign or domestic, is detained for questioning. A filtration system has been set up to return demobilized Ukrainian army draftees to their native regions, while the volunteers and the officers are shunted to pretrial detention centers, to determine whether they had ordered war crimes to be committed.

5. Most of Ukraine's border crossings are by now under Russian control. Some have been reinforced with air defense and artillery systems and tank battalions, to dissuade NATO forces from attempting to stage an invasion. Civilians and humanitarian goods are allowed through. Businessmen are allowed through once they fill out the required forms (which are in Russian).

6. Russia has imposed a no-fly zone over all of Ukraine. All civilian flights have been cancelled. There is quite a crowd of US State Department staffers, CIA and Mossad agents, and Western NGO people stuck at Borispol airport in Kiev. Some are nervously calling everyone they know on their satellite phones. Western politicians are demanding that they be evacuated immediately, but Russian authorities want to hold onto them until their possible complicity in war crimes has been determined.

7. The usual Ukrainian talking heads, such as president Poroshenko, PM Yatsenyuk and others, are no longer available to be interviewed by Western media. Nobody quite knows where they are. There are rumors that they have already fled the country. Crowds have stormed their abandoned residences, and were amazed to discover that they were all outfitted with solid gold toilets. Nor are the Ukrainian oligarchs anywhere to be found, except for the warlord Igor Kolomoisky, who was found in his residence, abandoned by his henchmen, dead from a heart attack. (Contributed by the Saker.)

8. Some of the over 800,000 Ukrainian refugees are starting to stream back in from Russia. They were living in tent cities, many of them in the nearby Rostov region, but with the winter coming they are eager to get back home, now that the shelling is over. Along with them, construction crews, cement trucks and flatbeds stacked with pipe, cable and rebar are streaming in, to repair the damage from the shelling.

9. There is all sorts of intense diplomatic and military activity around the world, especially in Europe and the US. Military forces are on highest alert, diplomats are jetting around and holding conferences. President Obama just held a press conference to announce that “We don't have a strategy on Ukraine yet.” His military advisers tell him that his usual strategy of “bomb a little and see what happens” is not likely to be helpful in this instance.

10. Kiev has surrendered. There are Russian tanks on the Maidan Square. Russian infantry is mopping up the remains of Ukraine's National Guard. A curfew has been announced. The operation to take Kiev resembled “Shock and Awe” in Baghdad: a few loud bangs and then a whimper.

Armed with this list, you too should be able to determine whether or not Russia has really invaded Ukraine.

 

 

Razor_Edge's picture

Chill, can't you see ignatius is being facetious and ironic? Besides, it's ungracious of you to quote from The Saker without acknowledging his work - (how you can tell whether Russia has invaded Ukraine)

Thordoom's picture

If Russians would have invaded Ukraine which is artificial state anyways the war would be over within 6 hours top  you dumb loon. Do not cry rivers  after you decided you fuck your country royally and now when you can't get the piece of the pie from Russian market you depend on and alwasy will. Nuland and Mc Cain happaned to you not Putin. I hope the cookies were worth it.

buttmint's picture

...I..Ignatius...there are meds for your Illusion of Grandeur. I hope you married your Bronx bitch ...

...and then she cleaned you out! I can hear you now "....I, I...I could been a contenda!"

SmittyinLA's picture

Russia invaded Ukraine like 2000 years ago, so long ago that more than half the population speaks Russian before they invaded

Raffie's picture

Already signed it and sent it to other sites and posted it on FB.

OFFFICAL SITE - https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/issue-international-arrest-war...

Time to nut punch George Soros and have him put down like the dog he is.

 

EuroPox's picture

Good luck with that petition - it's rigged, a lot more people have signed it than then number showing.  The counter was stuck at 101 for a couple of days.  Several petitions seem to be 'suffering', I know POTUS is very busy but someone needs to take a look at what is going on...

Chupacabra-322's picture

God Damn Criminal Deep State / CIA / NeoCon Zionist still creating mischief.

JRobby's picture

Ukraine is Soros/ CIA / Deep State. Oblivio ignored for the most part and "read his lines" when the time came to say something about it.

quax's picture

That's asinine. Soros and what army?

The Ukraine stands no chance against Russia if this war flares up again, and they now it. 

L Bean's picture

The trick now is to sacrifice fighters and hope that NATO will step in to save your ass. That's literally why Ukraine even still has anything resembling an army - they're all under that delusion, the one of NATO/US swooping in and saving them. Literally crying out in pain as they strike, of course.

Silvarouvres's picture

and of course Ukraine is fired up by the brave words of senators McCain and Graham when they visited the front line in early January:

"Your fight is our fight, 2017 will be the year of offense"

"It is time for them to pay a heavier price"

"I believe you will win. I am convinced you will win and we will do everything we can to provide you with what you need to win" 

 

all captured on film: http://russia-insider.com/en/john-mccain-and-lindsey-graham-visited-ukra...

buttmint's picture

.....McShitStain oughta head back to HaNoi and Hoa Lo Prison. They demolished half of McStain's previous digs to erect a tall high rise hotel in that part of HaNoi.

Either way, lock this crazy fucker up!

 

quax's picture

Gotta feel sorry for those soldiers. They have little experience with US politicians, how are they supposed to know that it comes reflectively to them to make promises they cannot keep.

quax's picture

This would be the most stupid strategy in the history of all strategies. They may be stupid, but how could they ever be that stupid?

Cruel Joke's picture

Noticed it is Groundhog Day - think you could ground the hog McCain? - he's currently throwing petrol on the fire in Ukraine. Play nice, please keep your pigs at home! 

BritBob's picture

Ruskies can be trusted:

 

Russia is a member of the UN C24 decolonisation committee and supports Spain's claim to Gibraltar. (supporting the lesser adversary). So much for the human and democratic rights of the people of Gibraltar and so much for that so-called sovereignty claim: Gibraltar - Some Relevant International Law: https://www.academia.edu/10575180/Gibraltar_-_Some_Relevant_Internationa...

 

 

Il Dottore's picture
Il Dottore (not verified) BritBob Feb 2, 2017 12:28 PM

It is not the first time I see this shit here, right? Whats your point?

Vageling's picture

His point? That his thingy has no importance to the UN nor does anyone else cares. Trying to get support I guess. It's the only thing he bores us with.

quax's picture

Sorry pal, but I think you are on your own.

MEFOBILLS's picture

The bank of england became the first debt spreading bank in history in 1694.  Britain basically became subordinate to private credit at this time.

The former East and West Indies corporations then no longer needed company paid mercenary armies. This function passed to the Royal armed forces, especially the Navy.

In effect, england became a modern corportocracy in alignment with private money power.  The private money power had jumped from Amsterdamn (Dutch) to London due to machinations of our ((freinds)) who had invented stock market capital and debt money over the preceeding hundreds of years.  The entire edifice of orange kings, cromwell, were aimed at infiltrating Britain.  

The parasite was successful.  An internal enemy is much more to be feared than an external.

The parasite then moved on to Gibraltar, as it wanted to control ocean transit corridors.  This allows movement of goods, to then take profits on the exchange.  (Moving items, say spices from an area of surplus to an area of scarcity, is a simple way to make make money.)

Check out the timing.  Also, note that Gibraltar is part of Iberian pennisula, not part of the British Isles. 

I'm with Putin, Spain's claims to Gibraltar preceed the parasite.

An Anglo-Dutch force captured Gibraltar from Spain in 1704 during the War of the Spanish Succession on behalf of the Habsburg claim to the Spanish throne. The territory was subsequently ceded to Britain "in perpetuity" under the Treaty of Utrecht in 1713. During World War II it was an important base for the Royal Navy as it controlled the entrance and exit to the Mediterranean Sea, which is only eight miles (13 km) wide at this point. Today Gibraltar's economy is based largely on tourism, online gambling, financial services, and shipping

Shemp 4 Victory's picture

Nice, but you wrote all that for a stupid bot.

MEFOBILLS's picture

The upvotes are bots too?  It was written for the ZH community who read the posts.

Shemp 4 Victory's picture

 

The upvotes are bots too?

I threw you a +1 and I'm not a bot. I was just pointing out that BritBob is a bot.

TeaClipper's picture

Its time Soros got his polonium enema

7thGenMO's picture

But imagine the fortune Hungary could make on pay-per-view by broadcasting his execution.  In the pre-game show, one representative from every country he has destabilized gets a wack at him with 1/2 inch steel rebar.  The final coup-de-grace with a wooden stake to his vampire heart could be administered by the highest bidder of a global auction. 

However, my guess is that GS is just the public face of a large network.  This network almost certainly has its agents in every central bank providing him the insider information to carry out currency destabilizations - perhaps some dual citizens?

 

Mike Masr's picture

Fucking Soros needs to be chained onto a rotating spit over an open pit and slow roasted to send him back to Hell where he belongs! I would pay a $500 pay per view fee to watch this!!!

 

BigFatUglyBubble's picture

We all know what is going to happen.  I don't even need to rub it in.  MIGA.

NurseRatched's picture

"Hey Vlad, I need you to replace Arnold on Celebrity Apprentice. The ratings have gone in the toilet since we replaced a REAL MAN as the boss."

misalkin's picture

Will Tesla cars have option to buy silver wired engines? 2 times more powerfull engine than copper ones, so HPx2 or reach x2. 1000km rather than 500km would be nice. Same with silver oxide batteries, they are more efficient than lithium based ones. Silver oxide batteries and silver wire engine and you end up with 2000km-3000km reach on one charging. Silver oxide batteries dosn't have flammability problems, why do they stick to lithium based batteries and risk burning passangers. Silver one are WAY safer and more efficient.

Yukon Cornholius's picture

So you're saying you want to take my silver and give it to Elon Musk? He'll just end up shooting it into 'space'.

L Bean's picture

You think the fine folks at Tesla are above PLANNED OBSOLESCENCE??

MEFOBILLS's picture

Why would you use a relatively scarce metal for batteries unless you have to?  It is not necessary.  No engineer would consider it given the alternatives.

Here is a much better solution for lithium ion batteries, and it doesn't explode.:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/next/tech/new-damage-proof-battery-has-high...

Winston Churchill's picture

2 cwts of silver per car ,and its price maybe?

Free Man's picture

Trump has this, Putin is right.