Furious California Leaders Slam "Cruel, Unconstitutional" Trump Over Threat To Pull Federal Money

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In a narrative more befitting of kindergarten, and certainly not grown adults (politicans are exempt), one day after from Trump warned he would defund California if the state passed a bill to make itself a de facto "sanctuary state", saying the state was "out of control", furious state leaders have responded that, drumroll, they are not "out of control."

Hoping to make their case stron, state politicans pointed at their balanced budget and high jobs numbers in the latest dustup between the populist Republican and the progressive state. Quoted by Reuters, the state's top Democrats called Trump "cruel" and his proposals unconstitutional, after the businessman-turned-politician threatened to withhold federal funding from the most populous U.S. state if lawmakers passed a bill protecting undocumented immigrants. "President Trump's threat to weaponize federal funding is not only unconstitutional but emblematic of the cruelty he seeks to impose on our most vulnerable communities," state Senate Pro Tem Kevin de Leon, a Democrat from Los Angeles, said in a statement on Monday.

The latest war of words between Trump and Democratic leaders in California, where voters chose his opponent, Hillary Clinton, two-to-one in November's election, began Sunday, in an interview between Trump and Fox News host Bill O'Reilly. During the interview, O'Reilly asked Trump about a bill in the state legislature, authored by de Leon, to ban law enforcement agencies in the state from cooperating with immigration officials in most circumstances. Cities who have enacted similar bans are known as sanctuary cities, and de Leon's bill, if passed and signed into law by Democratic Governor Jerry Brown, would effectively extend such rules to the entire state.

“I think it’s ridiculous. Sanctuary cities, as you know, I’m very much opposed to sanctuary cities. They breed crime, there’s a lot of problems,” Trump said.

“If we have to, we’ll defund,” Trump said in an interview with Fox News host Bill O’Reilly before the Super Bowl. “We give tremendous amounts of money to California, California in many ways is out of control, as you know.”

Trump told O’Reilly that he didn’t want to defund a state or a city and would like to give them “the money they need to properly operate.” But the president added that “if they’re going to have sanctuary cities, we may have to do that. Certainly that would be a weapon.”

California's mostly democratic leadership was not amused. State Assembly Speaker Anthony Rendon, an L.A.-area Democrat, said the state has the most manufacturing jobs in the nation, and produces a quarter of the country's food. “If this is what Donald Trump thinks is ‘out of control,’ I’d suggest other states should be more like us," Rendon said.

Sunday's shot across the bow of Sacramento followed a similar threat last weak, when Trump threatened to withhold federal funding from the University of California at Berkeley, where violent rioting led to the cancellation of a speech by famous "alt-right" winger Milo Yiannopoulos.

Experts have said it would be difficult for the President to withhold funds from either the university or the state. Court rulings have limited the power of the president to punish states by withholding funds, and most appropriations come from the Congress and not the executive branch. Then again, this is Trump we are talking about, and while it may ultimately indeed prove impossible, should this particular animosity between Trump and the state continue, Trump will certainly try...

Ultimately, California's fate may be in its own hands, and in its own territory.

As a reminder, a proposal for California to break away from the United States has been submitted to the Secretary of State's Office in the state capital. If it qualifies, it could trigger a vote on whether the most populous US state should become a separate nation. The group behind the proposal, Yes California Independence Campaign, was cleared on Thursday by Californian Secretary of State Alex Padilla to begin the bid to collect some 600,000 voter signatures required to put the ambitious plan on the ballot, AP reported.

The initiative would ask voters to repeal part of the state constitution that declares California an “inseparable part of the United States of America.” Being a US state is “no longer serving California’s best interests,” the movement claims.

“Not only is California forced to subsidize this massive military budget with our taxes, but Californians are sent off to fight in wars that often do more to perpetuate terrorism than to abate it. The only reason terrorists might want to attack us is because we are part of the United States and are guilty by association. Not being a part of that country will make California a less likely target of retaliation by its enemies,” the campaign argues, among other things.

“America already hates California, and America votes on emotions,” Marcus Evans, vice-president of Yes California told to the Los Angeles Times. “I think we'd have the votes today if we held it,” he added.

Since California must submit the valid voter signatures by July 25 to qualify for the November 2018 ballot, it is shaping up to be an especially volatile summer.

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Chris Dakota's picture
Chris Dakota (not verified) Feb 6, 2017 11:05 PM

HOLY SHIT!

"When U.S. Supreme Court Justice (((Ruth Bader Ginsburg))) was an attorney for the ACLU, she co-authored a report recommending that the age of consent for sexual acts be lowered to 12 years of age," the article points out.

Knight and York's footnoted documentation on this is as follows: "Sex Bias in the U.S. Code," Report for the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, April 1977, p. 102, quoted in "Ruth Bader Ginsburg's Feminist World View," The Phyllis Schlafly Report, Vol. 26, No. 12, Section 1, p. 3. The paragraph (from the Ginsburg report) reads as follows: "'Eliminate the phrase "carnal knowledge of any female, not his wife, who has not attained the age of 16 years" and substitute a federal, sex-neutral definition of the offense. ... A person is guilty of an offense if he engages in a sexual act with another person. ... [and] the other person is, in fact, less than 12 years old.'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KUXBzgBpvg

Manthong's picture

Turn off EBT, SNAP, Medicaid/Obummercare and SS disability in California and watch the fun start.

Let the filthy rich and leftie cucks there fund it.. They have plenty of Mexicans to support them.

Keep Medicare and Social Security for retirees as it was earned and paid for..

InjectTheVenom's picture

HEY "Cali" you've had this coming to you for a loooong time....please do the whole country a yuuuge favor and secede already ... like YESTERDAY !!

DRAIN THE SWAMP !!!!!!!!!!!!

J S Bach's picture

Secede you goddamned bastards... SECEDE!  It will be better for all of us.

(Just don't expect to be re-instituted into the Union once the folly of your insane liberal ideology is made manifest.)

jcaz's picture

Amazing how well they pay attention when threatened with the loss of their free money......

Thought Cali was all butch about seceding- they sure went butt-hurt quick....

847328_3527's picture

Cut off their water too. let them drink moar Kool Aide!

Ballin D's picture

They'll just move to other states and ruin them too

Midas's picture

That is when the beauty of Trump's immigration ban will become apparent:   7 becomes 8!

wee-weed up's picture

Hey, Kalifornica... you want cheese with that whine?

The_Juggernaut's picture

Seems like just a week ago I heard their idiot governor talking about withholding money from the federal government.  Why are they crying like little bitches now?

Manthong's picture

You know, I had trepidations about operation Jade Helm a while back, but now it might be that the drills will prove worthwhile in Sacramento, San Francisco and Los Angeles.

I recall the story of jets flying over Clinton’s first inauguration and someone declaring something to the effect that “ those are OUR planes now”.

Similarly, “Those are OUR domestic urban counter-insurgency troops now”.

 

SilverRhino's picture

My thoughts are just this.   Does California want to become a semi-hostile nation state with a contiguous border with the USA as it suddenly needs a "boogeyman" to stave off a potential economic collapse? 

 

Imagine California being occupied HOSTILE territory and EVERY California resident losing their citizenship and voting rights forever. 

 

philipat's picture

Um, actions have consequences? Although that has long been forgotten in the USSA where personal responsibility for anything was long ago replaced by the cultire of "victimhood". In the hood?

MalteseFalcon's picture

"As a reminder, a proposal for California to break away from the United States has been submitted to the Secretary of State's Office in the state capital. If it qualifies, it could trigger a vote on whether the most populous US state should become a separate nation. [...]  Since California must submit the valid voter signatures by July 25 to qualify for the November 2018 ballot,"

California thinks they can vote their way out of the Union.

LOL.

Think 1861, 101st Airborne at Little Rock, AR and a federalized National Guard at Oxford, MS.

Placerville's picture

Fuck yeah MF'ers.

Give them a free phone too that only speed dials Jerry Brown.

wangshui's picture

Yep, send all the immigrants to the country of Kalifornia !

petar's picture

Im guessing non of you has ever been in California. Been in 38 states. Cali is the best. The rest are not even close!

 

I dare Trump to speak about that wall and how is Mexico gonna pay for it. Reality president loser 

ZD1's picture

We don't have to guess that you're a dimwit.

Commiefornia may have been one of the best at one time but Democrats have managed to turn much of the state into a bankrupt turd world shithole.

mainstream media is useless's picture

I admire your commitment, but simply saying (only) "I'm with TRUMP!" in every single post adds nothing to the board...please say anything else 

SoDamnMad's picture

Lets call it the H1C visa the Californicates will be issued to move out of the state to other US states when they secede.

auricle's picture

Not giving them free shit is unconstitutional. Nice. Keep going liberals. 

Manthong's picture

oh.. and kill Section 8 there, too.

Walmart might have to install fortified entry check points, gun ports and M2’s all along their outside walls, though.

They ain't even seen cruel yet.

..and none of the above is even hinted at in the Constitution.

847328_3527's picture

Tell them to head over to Meryl Streep's and Sheen's house for dinner.

And Zuckerber's house for breakfast.....

lol

mofreedom's picture

Extract the retirees by force of freedom loving Californians.

Pinto beans for the rest.

I don't need no stinking cell phone...unless you can make it in Idaho.

Bleep.

Cynicles's picture

Jefferson should be allowed sepperation from the rest of Cookoo Ca.

Cynicles's picture

Waiting for them to say the POTUS' actions are "illegal" - perhaps they are merely undocumtented

cheech_wizard's picture

Putin to invade South Korea in 3...2...1...

Standard Disclaimer: Term limits are indeed required... If for no other reason the senile must be weeded out.

 

SoDamnMad's picture

Stop, stop the deployment of all our forces headed to Korea.  We looked and looked and have not observed a single Russian there.  Where did this mistake come from?  Who said the Russians were advancing on Korea?   Oh.

Bernie Madolf's picture

Hahahaha

She says Putin is invading Korea

Clearly her minions told her Crimea

What a f'ing idiot

SoDamnMad's picture

Some coach had to tell her "Allepo".  Shesh.

juangrande's picture

6TH largest economy in the world! California pays more federal taxes than they receive federal funds. Unlike, say Mississippi. The "conservative" state which would whither w/o federal moneys.  So turn it off, as long as they don't have to pay FICA, etc.

ZD1's picture

Commiefornia has one third of the US welfare cases and is broke again with budget deficits and billions in unfunded pension liabilities.

So yeah, let Gov. Moonbeam and his Democrats secede and deal with the fiscal mess they've got.

http://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/Jerry-Brown-says-state-faces-firs...

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/01/18/1-9b-accounting-error-adds-to...

wangshui's picture

One bad earthquake will change that.

yogibear's picture

That's it, build the wall around California. Hollywood wants Mexico and Mexico wants Hollywood.

Make Los Angeles the new Mexico City.

photonsoflight's picture

Well they should pay for ALL the infrastructure the federal government has payed for. The use of the US dollar would also be prohibited.  It would be totally devastating for CA to succeed. I say go for it. It is quite obvious that the goals and values of CA has diverged for the rest of the nation. Good luck.

Also I do not see the feds giving up their bases and lands they own. Remember that is how they started the civil war. Remember Fort Sumpter.

LyLo's picture

STORY TIME:

Ohio voted to lower their drinking age to 18 in the '80s.  (Guess who made it to the polls in droves that year?  lol)  This pissed off the Feds, and because they are controlling assholes they had to find some way to stop people from doing anything fun.

So they withdrew highway money and did not stop collecting taxes.  They did not stop enforcing laws or running federal operations within the state.  They just stopped giving them funds because they weren't enforcing federal law on federal property, so fuck them.

 

Could someone smarter than me explain EXACTLY how this situation is different?  (It was upheld as legal and is frequently cited in local discussions about state v. fed power, btw.  This is law of the land.)  Or is this yet another situation where the rules change to give the elite whatever they want?

Takeaction2's picture
Takeaction2 (not verified) InjectTheVenom Feb 6, 2017 11:16 PM

And look at this Horse SHIT...tells you why they are the way they are...WOW. This is why McCain and Lyndsey faggot Graham do what they do...they are shills for SOROS...it is all very clear now.  TRUMP...call these BITCHES OUT.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/02/06/records-soros-fund-ex...

ZD1's picture

Not really big dollar amounts were involved--$10K?

They can be bought off easy like cheap whores!

yellensNIRPles's picture

These dollar amounts are how meetings and phone calls are justified. There is a lot more behind the scenes I am sure.

mountain99889's picture
mountain99889 (not verified) Chris Dakota Feb 6, 2017 11:09 PM

(((Ruth Batface Ginsburg)))

Chris Dakota's picture
Chris Dakota (not verified) mountain99889 Feb 6, 2017 11:15 PM

Now you know WHY she looks like that, because that is what she is.......a Satanist!

Raffie's picture

American hating progressive liberal fascist should not be funded.

They asked for this to happen and now look shocked.

847328_3527's picture

These left wing politicians weren't as shocked when they saw their supporters beating up innocent young women and men in the street the other night...so screw them....

President, the Deplorables give you full authority to do what you need to do to protect Amercians from Californians.

Actually, Trump already has The Mandate and power as the winning president.

I love winning and it's only gonna get better!

NoDebt's picture

OK, so I'm going to try a little backyard Jiu Jitsu here....

Dear California Pensioners (and I know there's a metric shit-ton of you).... you know what even the prospect of conflict over de-funding CA would mean to you in the pecking order.  You would lose big and lose fast.  Your pension funding would quickly become dead-weight on the state budget if federal funds dried up.  Shortly thereafter your check would come in light or non-existent because those that pay you are already bankrupt, absent support from the almighty federal printing press.

You believe so deeply in a sanctuary state you're willing to risk your precious pensions and other benefits?

Wake the fuck up.  We already despise your asses.  Nothing would give us greater pleasure than to tell you to fuck off.  You want the rest of the country to gleefully extract it's pound of flesh from you?

Go on.  Make my day.

 

wildbad's picture

@NoDebt

You continue to astound me, positively, with your insightful and pointed wisdom.

good on ya

yogibear's picture

Ruth Bader Ginsburg is a sick feeble liberal  that belongs in dementia ward.  

MalteseFalcon's picture

"When U.S. Supreme Court Justice (((Ruth Bader Ginsburg))) was an attorney for the ACLU, she co-authored a report recommending that the age of consent for sexual acts be lowered to 12 years of age,"

Hillary Rodent fully expected to normalize pedophilia as Madam President.

If this is a surprise to you, wake up.