Trump Threatens To De-Fund "Out Of Control" California

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With the number of Californians demanding secession soaring post-election, President Trump maybe just about to give them another reason for Caliexit.  While all eyes and ears were focused on his Russian comments, President Trump had some choice words for Californians during his recent interview with Fox's Bill O'Reilly.

As McClatchy reports, responding to a question from O’Reilly about efforts by Democratic state legislators to make California a de-facto “sanctuary state” that would restrict state and local law enforcement, including school police and security departments, from using their resources to aid federal authorities in immigration enforcement.

“I think it’s ridiculous. Sanctuary cities, as you know, I’m very much opposed to sanctuary cities. They breed crime, there’s a lot of problems,” Trump said.

 

“If we have to, we’ll defund,” Trump said in an interview with Fox News host Bill O’Reilly before the Super Bowl. “We give tremendous amounts of money to California, California in many ways is out of control, as you know.”

 

Trump told O’Reilly that he didn’t want to defund a state or a city and would like to give them “the money they need to properly operate.”

But the president added that “if they’re going to have sanctuary cities, we may have to do that. Certainly that would be a weapon.”

The number of Californians who would rather see their state a sovereign nation than part of the United States jumped to 32 percent, a new Reuters/Ipsos opinion poll showed earlier this week. In 2014, it was only 20 percent.

Perhaps the new border wall will look more like this after all? 

 

As a reminder, a proposal for California to break away from the United States has been submitted to the Secretary of State's Office in the state capital. If it qualifies, it could trigger a vote on whether the most populous US state should become a separate nation. As RT reports, the group behind the proposal, Yes California Independence Campaign, was cleared on Thursday by Californian Secretary of State Alex Padilla to begin the bid to collect some 600,000 voter signatures required to put the ambitious plan on the ballot, AP reported.

The initiative would ask voters to repeal part of the state constitution that declares California an “inseparable part of the United States of America.”

 

Being a US state is “no longer serving California’s best interests,” the movement claims.

 

Not only is California forced to subsidize this massive military budget with our taxes, but Californians are sent off to fight in wars that often do more to perpetuate terrorism than to abate it. The only reason terrorists might want to attack us is because we are part of the United States and are guilty by association. Not being a part of that country will make California a less likely target of retaliation by its enemies,” the campaign argues, among other things.

 

“America already hates California, and America votes on emotions,” Marcus Evans, vice-president of Yes California told to the Los Angeles Times.

 

“I think we'd have the votes today if we held it,” he added.

It must submit the valid voter signatures by July 25 to qualify for the November 2018 ballot.

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Harry Quant's picture

Fuckin do it already. Let that shithole meltdown!

BaBaBouy's picture

Love It... Trying To Run GOV Like A Business...

Looney's picture

 

Mexifornia?  ;-)

Looney

AllTimeWhys's picture

Let them leave, the democrats will never win the presidency ever again.

FreezeThese's picture
FreezeThese (not verified) AllTimeWhys Feb 6, 2017 11:08 AM

The counter has officially been reset to 0 days - without being a National Embarassment 

NoDebt's picture

I fully support California leaving the Union.  We'd get rid of half the illegals and three quarters of the libs in one shot.

 

wildbad's picture

devolution! finally the libs are catching on.

one of my main points against my hero, Donald Trump, is that he has not yet set up a team to study EVERYTHING in government control which could be devolved under tenth amendment aegis.

there is SOOO much shit from BLM (the gummint one , not the SOROS one) to cannabis, to medical research....that needs no federal oversight and control.

in that vein..go for it Cali. it will then be a really expensive place to visit but..that's ok with me

Dr. Richard Head's picture

I just find it hillarious that Liberals were all up in the grill of Texans wanting to succeed by using the argument that succession was settled with the civil war and proposing a split from The Incorporated United States was racist.  Does the same argument apply to this California proposition?

For the record, smaller nation states would fit more into the tribal nature of people and would reduce centralized control in DC. 

 

tarabel's picture

 

 

It also fits in very well with the globalist agenda. Eliminating territories big and strong enough to defy the central planning apparatus is clearly of interest to them.

There is nothing wrong with the Great Republic that faithfdul adherence to its Constitution would not cure. That document and its established traditions is the one essential element in the survival of freedom. To suppose that the current population is capable of producing a superior system is wildly unlikely. Stick with the brand name product and beware of fake copies.

Dr. Richard Head's picture

I can see your point, but disagree.  The globalists, at least how they outlined in their agenda, want the nation states under an unelected government body controlling the resources and the people (i.e. the UN or the EU).  Smaller nationa states may very well have more of a voice in the direction of the people and resources, but that is just my conjecture. 

 

Gaius Frakkin' Baltar's picture

Whites need their own ethno-state. Those who disagree can go live in the multitude of "diverse paradises" which exist all over the world.

The jews can fuck off and move to their own ethno-state which currently exists and is defended by walls and guns.

Krungle's picture

Because whites have gotten along so well says the bloody history of Europe.

balolalo's picture

HOW ABOUT DEFUNDING THE FED????

how about defunding the bloated genocidal military industrial complex????

this is all bullshit distraction.  

The amount of money spent on illiegals in the country is drop in the ocean compared to the two line items above. 

the shitty, non-functional, pork project, corporate welfare, Zumwalt-class destroyer is up to $4 BILLION per ship. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zumwalt-class_destroyer

it's easy to pick on immigrants.   but not the whites and business owners hiring them??? 

it's easy to focus on immigrants versus the real blood suckers of the country.  

We wouldn't want TRUMP to do anything real, anything substative, now would we.....

 

MagicHandPuppet's picture

Give CommieFornia to Mayheekho and make the wall even bigger and better!

MalteseFalcon's picture

California is American territory.

Cali's need to brush up on 1861.

Because that's what's waiting at the end of the line.

#CaliTurkeyShoot.

WernerHeisenberg's picture

Six million upvotes!  Were i young, I would move to Eastern Europe.

August's picture

+1 for the subjunctive.

+1000 for Eastern Europe.

cheka's picture

34% of all US welfare recipients live in california

Manthong's picture

Secede… secession

And I would not mind all that much if they succeeded in that.

Turn off EBT, SNAP, Medicaid, and disability in California and watch the fun start.

Let the filthy rich there fund it.

Keep Medicare and Social Security for retirees as it was earned and paid for.

Fiat Envy's picture

You forgot electricity and water.  And hey lets wish them well.

Fiat Envy's picture

You forgot electricity and water.  And hey lets wish them well.

The Saint's picture
The Saint (not verified) tarabel Feb 6, 2017 12:04 PM

"America already hates California..."

No, America loves California - America hates Californians

ZD1's picture

America loves California?

Meh, decades of Democrat control along with unlimited illegal immigration has turned many parts of the once beautiful state into a third world cesspool.

sister tika's picture

Mexifornians hate Mexifornians?

Dr. Richard Head's picture

Adherance to the Constitution would be admirable, but has NEVER happened since its inception.  Too much "interpretation" of what it means has allowed it to not be a constraint on the centralized Federal Government as it was intended. 

 

Scarlett's picture

Please leave and default on your debt to the Fed.

J S Bach's picture

Can the rest of the states vote to force the secession of California?  That sounds like a Trump proposal to me.

greenskeeper carl's picture

I agree. The ink had barely dried and Washington was marching up to Pennsylvania with Hamilton in tow to crush the whiskey rebellion. Alien and sedition acts as well. I'd personally like to give the articles of confederation another try. The constitution served one purpose - to take control away from the states and away from the people and create a powerful central government.

The Phu's picture

me thinks you're all looking at this wrong...  Last I checked, there's been a long-term drought in the Desert SW the last few years.  I don't know the exact percentage, but a good deal of the water in Lake Mead goes to CA to irrigate golf courses and fill LA backyard pools.  If CA leaves the union, the interstate agreement would be redrawn and CA's share of the water would be reallocated to the remaining states.  Sounds like a win-win for AZ, NV, CO, NM, etc.

Not to mention, 2 fewer dem senators and about 40-50 fewer dem representatives.  Not that GOP control is desirable (since they've done such a great job during my lifetime), but ShitStainMcCain is still a bit more tolerable/desirable than Feinstein.

Don't let the door hit you on your way out!

GoingBig's picture

Another person spouting shit they know nothing about. Lake Meade water isn't used in LA. We have the Sierra for that. Try Vegas. Arizona, and the imperial valley.....

drendebe10's picture

Extend that wall north just west of the Cascades all the way to yhe Canadian border.  The Left coast be gone!

Jeffersonian Liberal's picture

And then we lose free access to the West Coast?

Hell no. Let the Statists in those area move to another country.

Jeffersonian Liberal's picture

But then they'd just take the next set of border states.

Plus, California is a great state. It's the people that make it a hellhole.

No way they get to secede when their candidate doesn't win and they get to separate with that great geography.

Hell no.

The Statists prevented the South from seceding. They don't get to secede. They have to live what they consider hell just like we had to.

If the leftists and illegals in California don't like it, let them move to Canada or Mexico.

MalteseFalcon's picture

California does not get to secede.

The illegals get deported.

Lefty gets to live an a federal territory under a policy of "Reconstruction."

If lefty objects, the camps used to house Japanese-Americans in WWII will be re-opened.

GoingBig's picture

Yeah, well there goes fully 1/3 of your GDP. Good luck with that. And what a stupid comment by Trump. We will have to defund them because the Feds give them so much money. Where do you thinkt ath money comes from? The other states? LMAO. This guy is ridiculous.

Croesus's picture

I was just thinking the same thing about Libtards, after reading your post.

SixIsNinE's picture

Dipshit Dabney the UC entitled rioter from Berkeley is the epitome posterchild of the Leftard madness.  

their  .goob allowance has been squandered and they should be reprimanded and put in the dunce corner.   Curfews are in order as well.

 

 

True Blue's picture

Oh, I wouldn't say you are a national embarrassment; just an embarrassment to the 'education' system in general, your teachers, your family, and any 'friends' you may posses. And BTW embarrassment has two "R's" -just like another word you're probably familiar with -Retard.

localsavage's picture

The Feds own 48% of the land in CA including a bunch of coastline.  CA is in a poor bargaining position.  

Harry Quant's picture

Can't wait to hear the screams when they find out about their pensions...or lack thereof. 

froze25's picture

No, way. I am for letting the cities go and become independent City States, it would teach them a good lesson about how they need the rest of the State to function. You look at Cali's county election map, its a sea of Red with little specs of Blue (the cities). We keep the farm land and the good people that live there.

Manthong's picture

Border wall map…

We get a giant Gaza Strip out of the deal.

 

Can we start bombing and shelling then?

techpriest's picture

Also, let's not forget the State of Jefferson.

Mikeyy's picture

I'm imagining how much of a pension I could fund by not paying US income taxes - I could have retired 10 years ago.

bobbbny's picture

That would be interesting to watch.

Venezuala in the United States.

Jim in MN's picture

Cross-posting from the 'fake polls' comment thread as I've just done this bit of research and it's relevant here:

 

So on the subject of bogus numbers and Trump being right, I've been looking into the voter fraud issues some more.  It is often informative to go to more local sources, and to go back a bit to avoid this election's contentious 'noise'.

In Ventura County CA, there was a Grand Jury investigation into the 2004 era issues.  The report is kind of interesting all the way through.  But, here is the amazing part--while the report on its face claims that everything is fine with regards to voter fraud and system safeguards, there is AGAIN this recurring focus on one voter voting multiple times.....but when you get to the part about verifying citizenship, here are the actual Grand Jury findings:

http://vcportal.ventura.org/GDJ/docs/reports/2004-05/voting.pdf

 

For voting purposes, citizenship is certified by a signed affidavit from the registrant. The Elections Division has no responsibility and no legal authority to require proof of citizenship or to challenge the citizenship certification when a person registers to vote. There is neither responsibility nor legal authority for any governmental agency to verify U.S. citizenship with respect to voter registration or voting.

 

The certification or proof of citizenship is characterized as a “rebuttable presumption.”  A voter may self-declare that he or she is not a citizen, but citizenship cannot be actively challenged with respect to registration and voting. For voting purposes only, citizenship is presumed based on the affidavit of the registrant unless evidence is introduced proving that the registrant is not a citizen.

 

 

So you see, if a non-citizen (or a million non-citizens) were to just check one box on a form, say their driver's license form, from that point on they are treated as a proper registered voter.  Yes it really is that simple.

So let's hope that Vice President Pence and the commission keep their 'eyes on the prize' in their investigation. 

ANYONE CAN VOTE in California, Maryland, and many other states.  NO ONE CHECKS. 

localsavage's picture

As someone who lives in CA, I can tell you that fraud on all levels of voting, taking benefits and tax evasion is rampant with the "immigrants"

philipat's picture

Agreed but not that that should be the case. Why should the Federal Government own the land of we the people?

wildbad's picture

there is no good reason for the Feds to be big landholders.

this is reason enough for the people of cali to devolve power back to some local evildoers whose feet are much more easily held to the fire of democracy.

this helps self-correct the tendency of socialist to spend other people's munny.

let them learn on their own dime.