The Silent Terror Of The FBI - Could The Fourth Reich Happen Here?

Tyler Durden's picture

Submitted by John Whitehead via The Rutherford Institute,

“After five years of Hitler’s dictatorship, the Nazi police had won the FBI’s seal of approval.” - Historian Robert Gellately


Adolf Hitler is alive and well in the United States, and he is fast rising to power.” - Paul Craig Roberts, former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury, on the danger posed by the FBI to our civil liberties

Lately, there’s been a lot of rhetoric comparing Donald Trump to Adolf Hitler. The concern is that a Nazi-type regime may be rising in America.

That process, however, began a long time ago.

In fact, following the second World War, the U.S. government recruited Hitler’s employees, adopted his protocols, embraced his mindset about law and order, implemented his tactics in incremental steps, and began to lay the foundations for the rise of the Fourth Reich.

Sounds far-fetched? Read on. It’s all documented.

As historian Robert Gellately recounts, the Nazi police state was initially so admired for its efficiency and order by the world powers of the day that J. Edgar Hoover, then-head of the FBI, actually sent one of his right-hand men, Edmund Patrick Coffey, to Berlin in January 1938 at the invitation of Germany’s secret police—the Gestapo.

The FBI was so impressed with the Nazi regime that, according to the New York Times, in the decades after World War II, the FBI, along with other government agencies, aggressively recruited at least a thousand Nazis, including some of Hitler’s highest henchmen.

All told, thousands of Nazi collaborators—including the head of a Nazi concentration camp, among others—were given secret visas and brought to America by way of Project Paperclip. Subsequently, they were hired on as spies and informants, and then camouflaged to ensure that their true identities and ties to Hitler’s holocaust machine would remain unknown. All the while, thousands of Jewish refugees were refused entry visas to the U.S. on the grounds that it could threaten national security.

Adding further insult to injury, American taxpayers have been paying to keep these ex-Nazis on the U.S. government’s payroll ever since. And in true Gestapo fashion, anyone who has dared to blow the whistle on the FBI’s illicit Nazi ties has found himself spied upon, intimidated, harassed and labeled a threat to national security.

As if the government’s covert, taxpayer-funded employment of Nazis after World War II wasn’t bad enough, U.S. government agencies—the FBI, CIA and the military—have fully embraced many of the Nazi’s well-honed policing tactics, and have used them repeatedly against American citizens.

Indeed, with every passing day, the United States government borrows yet another leaf from Nazi Germany’s playbook: Secret police. Secret courts. Secret government agencies. Surveillance. Censorship. Intimidation. Harassment. Torture. Brutality. Widespread corruption. Entrapment. Indoctrination. Indefinite detention.

These are not tactics used by constitutional republics, where the rule of law and the rights of the citizenry reign supreme. Rather, they are the hallmarks of authoritarian regimes, where the only law that counts comes in the form of heavy-handed, unilateral dictates from a supreme ruler who uses a secret police to control the populace.

That danger is now posed by the FBI, whose laundry list of crimes against the American people includes surveillance, disinformation, blackmail, entrapment, intimidation tactics, harassment and indoctrination, governmental overreach, abuse, misconduct, trespassing, enabling criminal activity, and damaging private property, and that’s just based on what we know.

Whether the FBI is planting undercover agents in churches, synagogues and mosques; issuing fake emergency letters to gain access to Americans’ phone records; using intimidation tactics to silence Americans who are critical of the government; recruiting high school students to spy on and report fellow students who show signs of being future terrorists; or persuading impressionable individuals to plot acts of terror and then entrapping them, the overall impression of the nation’s secret police force is that of a well-dressed thug, flexing its muscles and doing the boss’ dirty work of ensuring compliance, keeping tabs on potential dissidents, and punishing those who dare to challenge the status quo.

Whatever minimal restrictions initially kept the FBI’s surveillance activities within the bounds of the law have all but disappeared post-9/11. Since then, the FBI has been transformed into a mammoth federal policing and surveillance agency that largely operates as a power unto itself, beyond the reach of established laws, court rulings and legislative mandates.

Consider the FBI’s far-reaching powers to surveil, detain, interrogate, investigate, prosecute, punish, police and generally act as a law unto themselves—much like their Nazi cousins, the Gestapo—and then try to convince yourself that the United States is still a constitutional republic.

Just like the Gestapo, the FBI has vast resources, vast investigatory powers, and vast discretion to determine who is an enemy of the state.

Today, the FBI employs more than 35,000 individuals and operates more than 56 field offices in major cities across the U.S., as well as 400 resident agencies in smaller towns, and more than 50 international offices. In addition to their “data campus,” which houses more than 96 million sets of fingerprints from across the United States and elsewhere, the FBI has also built a vast repository of “profiles of tens of thousands of Americans and legal residents who are not accused of any crime. What they have done is appear to be acting suspiciously to a town sheriff, a traffic cop or even a neighbor.” The FBI’s burgeoning databases on Americans are not only being added to and used by local police agencies, but are also being made available to employers for real-time background checks.

All of this is made possible by the agency’s nearly unlimited resources (its minimum budget alone in fiscal year 2015 was $8.3 billion), the government’s vast arsenal of technology, the interconnectedness of government intelligence agencies, and information sharing through fusion centers—data collecting intelligence agencies spread throughout the country that constantly monitor communications (including those of American citizens), everything from internet activity and web searches to text messages, phone calls and emails.

Much like the Gestapo spied on mail and phone calls, FBI agents have carte blanche access to the citizenry’s most personal information.

Working through the U.S. Post Office, the FBI has access to every piece of mail that passes through the postal system: more than 160 billion pieces are scanned and recorded annually. Moreover, the agency’s National Security Letters, one of the many illicit powers authorized by the USA Patriot Act, allows the FBI to secretly demand that banks, phone companies, and other businesses provide them with customer information and not disclose those demands to the customer. An internal audit of the agency found that the FBI practice of issuing tens of thousands of NSLs every year for sensitive information such as phone and financial records, often in non-emergency cases, is riddled with widespread constitutional violations.

Much like the Gestapo’s sophisticated surveillance programs, the FBI’s spying capabilities can delve into Americans’ most intimate details (and allow local police to do so, as well).

In addition to technology (which is shared with police agencies) that allows them to listen in on phone calls, read emails and text messages, and monitor web activities, the FBI’s surveillance boasts an invasive collection of spy tools ranging from Stingray devices that can track the location of cell phones to Triggerfish devices which allow agents to eavesdrop on phone calls.  In one case, the FBI actually managed to remotely reprogram a “suspect’s” wireless internet card so that it would send “real-time cell-site location data to Verizon, which forwarded the data to the FBI.” Law enforcement agencies are also using social media tracking software to monitor Facebook, Twitter and Instagram posts. Moreover, secret FBI rules also allow agents to spy on journalists without significant judicial oversight.

Much like the Gestapo’s ability to profile based on race and religion, and its assumption of guilt by association, the FBI’s approach to pre-crime allows it to profile Americans based on a broad range of characteristics including race and religion.

The agency’s biometric database has grown to massive proportions, the largest in the world, encompassing everything from fingerprints, palm, face and iris scans to DNA, and is being increasingly shared between federal, state and local law enforcement agencies in an effort to target potential criminals long before they ever commit a crime. This is what’s known as pre-crime. Yet it’s not just your actions that will get you in trouble. In many cases, it’s also who you know—even minimally—and where your sympathies lie that could land you on a government watch list. Moreover, as the Intercept reports, despite anti-profiling prohibitions, the bureau “claims considerable latitude to use race, ethnicity, nationality, and religion in deciding which people and communities to investigate.”

Much like the Gestapo’s power to render anyone an enemy of the state, the FBI has the power to label anyone a domestic terrorist.

As part of the government’s so-called ongoing war on terror, the nation’s de facto secret police force has begun using the terms “anti-government,” “extremist” and “terrorist” interchangeably. Moreover, the government continues to add to its growing list of characteristics that can be used to identify an individual (especially anyone who disagrees with the government) as a potential domestic terrorist. For instance, you might be a domestic terrorist in the eyes of the FBI (and its network of snitches) if you:

  • express libertarian philosophies (statements, bumper stickers)
  • exhibit Second Amendment-oriented views (NRA or gun club membership)
  • read survivalist literature, including apocalyptic fictional books
  • show signs of self-sufficiency (stockpiling food, ammo, hand tools, medical supplies)
  • fear an economic collapse
  • buy gold and barter items
  • subscribe to religious views concerning the book of Revelation
  • voice fears about Big Brother or big government
  • expound about constitutional rights and civil liberties
  • believe in a New World Order conspiracy

Much like the Gestapo infiltrated communities in order to spy on the German citizenry, the FBI routinely infiltrates political and religious groups, as well as businesses.

As Cora Currier writes for the Intercept: “Using loopholes it has kept secret for years, the FBI can in certain circumstances bypass its own rules in order to send undercover agents or informants into political and religious organizations, as well as schools, clubs, and businesses...” The FBI has even been paying Geek Squad technicians at Best Buy to spy on customers’ computers without a warrant.

Just as the Gestapo united and militarized Germany’s police forces into a national police force, America’s police forces have largely been federalized and turned into a national police force.

In addition to government programs that provide the nation’s police forces with military equipment and training, the FBI also operates a National Academy that trains thousands of police chiefs every year and indoctrinates them into an agency mindset that advocates the use of surveillance technology and information sharing between local, state, federal, and international agencies.

Just as the Gestapo’s secret files on political leaders were used to intimidate and coerce, the FBI’s files on anyone suspected of “anti-government” sentiment have been similarly abused.

As countless documents make clear, the FBI has no qualms about using its extensive powers in order to blackmail politicians, spy on celebrities and high-ranking government officials, and intimidate and attempt to discredit dissidents of all stripes. For example, not only did the FBI follow Martin Luther King Jr. and bug his phones and hotel rooms, but agents also sent him anonymous letters urging him to commit suicide and pressured a Massachusetts college into dropping King as its commencement speaker.

Just as the Gestapo carried out entrapment operations, the FBI has become a master in the art of entrapment.

In the wake of the 9/11 terrorist attacks the FBI has not only targeted vulnerable individuals but has also lured or blackmailed them into fake terror plots while actually equipping them with the organization, money, weapons and motivation to carry out the plots—entrapment—and then jailing or deporting them for their so-called terrorist plotting. This is what the FBI characterizes as “forward leaning—preventative—prosecutions.” In addition to creating certain crimes in order to then “solve” them, the FBI also gives certain informants permission to break the law, “including everything from buying and selling illegal drugs to bribing government officials and plotting robberies,” in exchange for their cooperation on other fronts. USA Today estimates that agents have authorized criminals to engage in as many as 15 crimes a day. Some of these informants are getting paid astronomical sums: one particularly unsavory fellow, later arrested for attempting to run over a police officer, was actually paid $85,000 for his help laying the trap for an entrapment scheme.

When and if a true history of the FBI is ever written, it will not only track the rise of the American police state but it will also chart the decline of freedom in America, in much the same way that the empowerment of Germany’s secret police tracked with the rise of the Nazi regime.

How did the Gestapo become the terror of the Third Reich?

It did so by creating a sophisticated surveillance and law enforcement system that relied for its success on the cooperation of the military, the police, the intelligence community, neighborhood watchdogs, government workers for the post office and railroads, ordinary civil servants, and a nation of snitches inclined to report “rumors, deviant behavior, or even just loose talk.”

In other words, ordinary citizens working with government agents helped create the monster that became Nazi Germany. Writing for the New York Times, Barry Ewen paints a particularly chilling portrait of how an entire nation becomes complicit in its own downfall by looking the other way:

In what may be his most provocative statement, [author Eric A.] Johnson says that ‘‘most Germans may not even have realized until very late in the war, if ever, that they were living in a vile dictatorship.’’ This is not to say that they were unaware of the Holocaust; Johnson demonstrates that millions of Germans must have known at least some of the truth. But, he concludes, ‘‘a tacit Faustian bargain was struck between the regime and the citizenry.’’ The government looked the other way when petty crimes were being committed. Ordinary Germans looked the other way when Jews were being rounded up and murdered; they abetted one of the greatest crimes of the 20th century not through active collaboration but through passivity, denial and indifference.

Much like the German people, “we the people” have become passive, polarized, gullible, easily manipulated, and lacking in critical thinking skills.  Distracted by entertainment spectacles, politics and screen devices, we too are complicit, silent partners in creating a police state similar to the terror practiced by former regimes.

Can the Fourth Reich happen here?

As I point out in my book Battlefield America: The War on the American People, it’s already happening right under our noses.

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Chris Dakota's picture
Chris Dakota (not verified) Feb 8, 2017 10:30 PM

Mao was the high score killer.

All this Hitler shit, he was nothing compared to the communists.




macholatte's picture


Nazi here. Nazi there. Hitler everywhere.
Sources: NYT & WaPo & USA Today
Gimme a break!


kavlar's picture
kavlar (not verified) macholatte Feb 8, 2017 10:57 PM

“we the people have become passive, polarized, gullible, easily MANIPULATED"

US Presidents are the first to be manipulated. TRUMP is NO exception.

847328_3527's picture
John Podesta: Fake news is 'undermining our democracy'


The pedo cracks me up. Accusing the Republicans of doing exactly what you are doing.


Have another slice of pizza, Podesta, the Pedo Supreme!

Stuck on Zero's picture

Was this piece written by AIPAC?

MalteseFalcon's picture

The Nazis are all long dead.

Let's freshen this up a little.

For 'gestapo' substitute 'stasi".

north island kiwi's picture

malt the 4th reich arrived into the us 1945-6 soon to be taken over by the communist/zionists thanks to allen dulles, man your country is so fcvked

wildbad's picture

and the brains behind the DHS was the head of the East German STASI (Stadt Sicherheit).

He was hired under BabyBush to fight the enemy ie: US Citizens.

Abolish NDAA, DHS, NSA, CIA, and the Fed.

Bring the FBI back to its original charter of filing the interstate gaps in policing. Remove all surveillance activities and parallel construction possibilities and revert back to a fourth amendment constrained bureau.

J S Bach's picture

HA!!!  A country completely controlled by jews and nary a single political figure with the courage to even NAME those controllers?!

What a joke.  Besides, we haven't had our First, Second nor Third Reichs yet.  So why would we start with the Fourth?

Buck Johnson's picture

And we will get this Fourth Reich.


jmeyer's picture

Yes, he was because we sorta idolize him now but who remembers Mao ? Only ZH'ers

Frito's picture

These days, most are more familiar with LMAO

peddling-fiction's picture

The Bankers paying for this fun get the top score.

They backed Mao, Stalin, and Hitler (as well as lots of Western leaders as well).

Who wants to name and shame them?

BabaLooey's picture

My own personal experience with Feebs?

They're fuckng lying cunts.


847328_3527's picture

Millions dead or locked up or suppressed.

Goals only the DNC could strive to attain again!

07564111's picture

But of Lenin and Trotsky there will be no mention ;) because Bolshevik Jews ;)

jaxville's picture

The list of activities that could get you in trouble did not include antisemitism. I wonder why?

     The FBI were instrumental in the death of Edgar J Steele.  I guess all the Nazi's in the FBI just hated hearing Steele bemoan the Jewish power over the government, financial sector and the media.

  I like Paul Craig Roberts but sometimes I think he really needs to shut off his television and stop drawing history from Hollywood productions.

 My bad....this nonsense was not written by PCR.

Fathead Slim's picture
Fathead Slim (not verified) jaxville Feb 8, 2017 11:07 PM

True. It's Whitehead's latest sales pitch for his book.

Tallest Skil's picture

Honestly, Hitler probably isn't even in the top 10. Are we calling the list based on "wars started", because Germany's invasion of Poland was to stop the GENOCIDE OF GERMANS LIVING THERE, so they hardly started the war.

Matteo S.'s picture

Are you serious ? There never was the beginning of the start of any genocide of germans in Poland.

Just read Mein kampf. All is stated in the book : lebensraum, slavs expelled, starved, and the survivors reduced to slave-like status for the benefit of aryans.

Now if you regret the german nazi program failed, say It frankly.

earleflorida's picture

if marshall hadn't plowed billions of dollars into Chiang kai`Shek's government the war in china would have ended with less death.

but, because the ussa backed {Formosa Tyrant Chiang} the 2nd civil war lasted until 1946-49 that killed nearly 100 million people because the ussa was willing to back a POS. Chiang had moar Harvard Business grads in his Adm. than FDR!!!

when Mao won he told the american's they'll never step on the mainland again other than the British Hong Kong or S. Korea.

yeah, Mao fucked-up,trying to make china a dynasty again with some brutal shit. but when we compare it to stalin's purge or viet nam or what the german nazis did to the russian population before/ during wwii it will/should make you think twice about throwing stones.

think the japanese?!? 

East Indian's picture

The Chinese dont mind what Chairman Mao did to them, nor the Russians seem to mind what the Georgian did to them either.

Matteo S.'s picture

There is a mistake in your ranking. Although Mao is unquestionably number one, Hitler comes second since he caused more soviet people death than Stalin did and since Stalin mainly caused soviet death.

The big difference is that Mao and Stalin mainly killed their people of their own country while Hitler mainly killed people from other countries or labelled as undeutsche.

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Chris Dakota (not verified) Matteo S. Feb 9, 2017 8:31 AM

So its not killing if they are your own people?

This means Trump can freely kill the leftists.


Matteo S.'s picture

This is not what I stated. What I stated is that Hitler mostly killed non germans/aryans while Mao and Stalin mostly killed their own people. Which makes Hitler a danger for the whole world more than criminal Stalin and Mao.

I am as much antinazi as anticommunist.

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Fathead Slim (not verified) zero_wedge Feb 8, 2017 10:45 PM

Whitehead is a leftard. He sees fucking nazis everywhere.

WernerHeisenberg's picture

 J Edgar Hoover in the 1960s covered up the JFK, RFK, and MLK false flag murders, this has been going on for a very long time, plus Cointelpro, etc.  No one is still living who can remember a time before the US secret police.

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Chris Dakota (not verified) WernerHeisenberg Feb 8, 2017 11:17 PM

The US Gov experiments on us Americans

In the 1880s, in Hawaii, a California physician working at a hospital for lepers injected six girls under the age of 12 with syphilis.[7]

In 1895, New York City pediatrician Henry Heiman intentionally infected two mentally disabled boys—one four-year-old and one sixteen-year-old—with gonorrhea as part of a medical experiment.

U.S. Army doctors in the Philippines infected five prisoners with bubonic plague and induced beriberi in 29 prisoners

1908, three Philadelphia researchers infected dozens of children with tuberculin at the St. Vincent's House orphanage in Philadelphia

 1911, Dr. Hideyo Noguchi of the Rockefeller Institute for Medical Research injected 146 hospital patients (some of whom were children) with syphilis.

In 1941, at the University of Michigan, virologists Thomas Francis, Jonas Salk and other researchers deliberately infected patients at several Michigan mental institutions with the influenza virus by spraying the virus into their nasal passages.

In 1941 Dr. William C. Black inoculated with herpes a twelve-month-old baby "offered as a volunteer".

a 1946 to 1948 study in Guatemala, U.S. researchers used prostitutes to infect prison inmates, insane asylum patients, and Guatemalan soldiers with syphilis and other sexually transmitted diseases

In 1950, in order to conduct a simulation of a biological warfare attack, the U.S. Navy sprayed large quantities of the bacteria Serratia marcescens – considered harmless at this time – over the city of San Francisco during a project called Operation Sea-Spray. Numerous citizens contracted pneumonia-like illnesses test were conducted until 1969

1950, Dr. Joseph Stokes of the University of Pennsylvania deliberately infected 200 female prisoners with viral hepatitis

In 1952, Chester M. Southam, a Sloan-Kettering Institute researcher, injected live cancer cells, known as HeLa cells, into prisoners at the Ohio State Penitentiary and cancer patients

In 1953 Frank Olson died after a fall from a hotel building after being unknowingly doped with LSD by the CIA nine days prior.

it goes on and on the rest is here



Kirk2NCC1701's picture

Chris, with your knowledge, you should meet Miffed Microbiologist.

Chris Dakota's picture
Chris Dakota (not verified) Kirk2NCC1701 Feb 8, 2017 11:28 PM

I talked to her once on this forum, she (I think) seems very nice and grounded.

earleflorida's picture

we[the us military] used are own enlisted soldiers for medical experiments knowing they wouldn' see the light of days months later.

these incidents have been going on for years.

are own soldiers!

the german's and japanese used russians and chinese for experimentation which the us gov't imported their research back to the land of the free[!] after the wars.

Offthebeach's picture

PFC medic in the Army. Was offered a promotion if I accepted a tranfer to Ft. Detrick, Maryland.


The Gun Is Good's picture

Plus DU rounds in Gulf War I. Not good for GIs.

Fathead Slim's picture
Fathead Slim (not verified) WernerHeisenberg Feb 8, 2017 11:05 PM

That's likely true. Nobody I know remembers much about the early Depression times before Hoover started his version of the US secret police, let alone Ainslinger's goon squads before the FBI.

Grant had Allen Pinkerton on his staff, doing the bidding of Wall Street. It goes way back.

jm's picture

There are no words for the depravity of this. Tyler how do you sleep at night?

jm's picture

It must be affecting his mental capacity.

reader2010's picture

The 3rd Reich Liquidated the Jews and the 4th Reich the White.

Kirk2NCC1701's picture

The 3rd Reich can be 'credited' for the death of 40 million Whites / Christians.

The 4th 'Reich' will strive to finish off the rest.

Tallest Skil's picture

>>The 3rd Reich Liquidated the Jews


>>and the 4th Reich the White.

Oy vey! You mean to say that jews aren't white?! Of course they're white when they need to call for whites to destroy themselves and not otherwise! You antisemite!

Kirk2NCC1701's picture

Are modern Jews genetic Whites or Semites?

Which is it?  Just asking, to see if you know the difference. Because ancient Israelites were Semites. Which is Middle Eastern and North African.

In fact, if you do your homework, you will find out that there is a tribe of African Jews, who are genetically closer to the Ancient Israelites than Ashkenazis. Ironically enough, they are treated as second-class citizens in Israel.  Oops!

And even if MENA people (Semites) want to consider themselves as 'White', the European Whites do not see it that way. They see Semites as Brown.

Al Armed's picture

White Man Slays Overbearing Mother on Long Island

Jewish Man Slays Audience at Downtown Comedy Club

Sages wife's picture

Nein, nein, nein, nein, nein!

ebworthen's picture

One question; how did that end for the Gestapo and Germany?

Grumbleduke's picture

germany became a powerhouse in europe, and the gestapo made itself home in the good ol' USA - operation paperclip. Hail Hydra!

jmeyer's picture

Look y'all, the Nazi's came to power after Germany hit the bottom of the abyss brought on by the mess they created from WW1. The US is no where near this place, at least not yet.

Fathead Slim's picture
Fathead Slim (not verified) Feb 8, 2017 10:44 PM

Fucking Whitehead again with the fucking Nazis are coming meme. Tyler, here's something that might improve the lineup a little: