Russian Government Considers Offering Snowden As "Gift" To President Trump, NBC Reports

Tyler Durden's picture

Echoing a now eerily prophetic comment by Edward Snowden in December that "there could be some kind of deal - give this guy to me as a present," NBC News reports, citing US intelligence official sources, that Russia is considering turning over Edward Snowden as a "gift" to President Donald Trump - who has called the NSA leaker a "spy" and a "traitor" who deserves to be executed.

In an interview streamed on Twitter in December, Snowden said being forced to return to the U.S. would be a human-rights violation but would also put to rest to accusations that he is a Russian spy.

"A lot of people have asked me: Is there going to be some kind of deal where Trump says, 'Hey look, give this guy to me as some kind of present'? Will I be sent back to the U.S., where I'll be facing a show trial?" Snowden said. "Is this going to happen? I don't know. Could it happen? Sure. Am I worried about it? Not really, because here's the thing: I am very comfortable with the decisions that I've made. I know I did the right thing."

Here’s what @snowden told me about the possibility of Putin handing him over as a good will gesture to the Trump administration. pic.twitter.com/LdoxE7cYvA

Then a month ago, none other than Michael Morell (former CIA acting director and Clinton supporter and adamant anti-Trumper) suggested that Snowden would make “the perfect inauguration gift” for Donald Trump.

There are “a lot of reasons” that would “make sense” for Russia to take such a step, Morell wrote in his column in the Cipher Brief. The former CIA acting chief believes that “the Russian president needs a relationship with the incoming US president where the US overlooks Moscow’s anti-democratic activities at home and destabilizing activities abroad.”

 

Moreover, “gifting” Snowden could also become a good way “to poke his [Putin’s] finger in the eye of his adversary Barack Obama,” Morell added.

 

In addition, “this would give President Putin one of the things he desires the most – being seen at home and abroad as an equal of the US.”

To which Edward Snowden’s lawyer Anatoly Kucherena exclaimed:

“These statements coming from the former CIA head are stirring mixed feelings and can be seen only as a kind of utter nonsense, there is hardly any other way to put it,”

But now, as NBC News reports, according to a senior U.S. official who has analyzed a series of highly sensitive intelligence reports detailing Russian deliberations, a Snowden handover is one of various ploys to "curry favor" with Trump. A second source in the intelligence community confirms the intelligence about the Russian conversations and notes it has been gathered since the inauguration.

Snowden's ACLU lawyer, Ben Wizner, told NBC News they are unaware of any plans that would send him back to the United States.

"Team Snowden has received no such signals and has no new reason for concern," Wizner said.

Furthermore, Snowden's Russian lawyer told the state-run news agency last month that his client would like to return to the United States - with no criminal charges hanging over his head.

"We hope very much that the new U.S. president would show some weighted approach to the issue and make the one and only correct decision - to stop prosecution against Edward Snowden," Kucherena said.

Former deputy national security adviser Juan Zarate urged the Trump administration to be cautious in accepting any Snowden offer from Russian President Vladimir Putin. Again, seemingly based on pure speculation, Zarate tells NBC there is no way to predict if Putin will deliver Snowden — or when.

"I think this is one of those rare cases where the stakes are so high, the diplomatic implications so deep, that anything can happen," he said.

 

"So this could be a secret diplomatic deal made in the dead of night, or it could be a weeks-in-formation deal with lawyers on all sides," he said.

 

"I think at the end of the day, Moscow holds the cards here."

 

"For Russia, this would be a win-win. They've already extracted what they needed from Edward Snowden in terms of information and they've certainly used him to beat the United States over the head in terms of its surveillance and cyber activity," Zarate said.

 

"It would signal warmer relations and some desire for greater cooperation with the new administration, but it would also no doubt stoke controversies and cases in the U.S. around the role of surveillance, the role of the U.S. intelligence community, and the future of privacy and civil liberties in an American context.

 

"All of that would perhaps be music to the ears of Putin."

 

In light of the sources (or lack of them), NBC News is forced to admit that The White House had no comment, but the Justice Department told NBC News it would welcome the return of Snowden, who currently faces federal charges that carry a minimum of 30 years in prison. Putin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said talk about returning Snowden is "nonsense."

Finally, moments ago Snowden himself responded to the article in steide, tweeting that - if true - it would be evidence that contrary to repeat accusations and even a major Congressional report claiming otherwise, he had not worked with the Russians...

... followed moments by a Snowden retweet of a Katie Couric interview, explaining that he is "encouraged" by the possibility of being sent back to the US.

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wisehiney's picture

Pardon Snowden Trump.

knukles's picture

You can be a hero, sir.
No Slave Trading on the Bridge of Sighs

FireBrander's picture

Before we execute Snowden, how about we hang the SONS-OF-A-BITCHES that allowed Snowden...A FUCKING NOBODY AT THE NSA....TO WALK OUT THE FUCKING DOOR WITH LAPTOPS FULL OF DATA....and then ALLOWED THE MOTHERFUCKER TO LEAVE THE COUNTRY with said laptops!

Who lost thier jobs over the Snowden incident?

Yeah, Crickets...

Jim Sampson's picture

For being truthful.  That's frowned upon.

 

This is sick though, Trump is a piece of shit... I just hope you idiots on here realize it some day.

The Saint's picture
The Saint (not verified) Jim Sampson Feb 10, 2017 7:45 PM

Why would Snowden think he is anything other than an international pawn to be used by Putin as he sees fit?

Trump hates Snowden.  He will hang him for Treason if he is turned over to the U.S.

 

ne-tiger's picture

Fucking white trash who wants to hang Snowden needs to read and learn instead of busy flipping burgers all his retard life.

Latina Lover's picture

This is just more fake news from NBC-BS.   Can anyone explain why Snowden would be so important to the US? Really?? Whatever info Snowden may have coughed up, is now stale and useless for the most part. Does Trump really want a show trial for Snowden?

Winston Churchill's picture

Ludicrous news, its gone way beyond fake now.Or maybe warped news.

FireBrander's picture

C'mon fucknuts...tell me, WHAT DID SNOWDEN STEAL? Give me IT ALL with 100% certainty of what he walked out with!

Yeah, you have NO FUCKING IDEA what he stole...ONLY WHAT SNOWDEN IS TELLING YOU HE STOLE!

Maybe he stole more than he's telling you?

Maybe he stole something that would REALLY FUCKING PISS YOU OFF?

Maybe Trump KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT SNOWDEN STOLE?

Maybe you should press Trump to explain WHY Snowden is a traitor?

eforce's picture

Snowden the trojan horse? Trump executes him, looses his support base, Soros flicks the funding switch on the "protestors"...

Mister Ponzi's picture

You know it's fake news when the presstitutes claim that the Russian government thinks like American presstitutes.

Notveryamused's picture

Bad deal, Trump doesn't need the controversy. On the one hand Snowden is a hero on the other he also revealed too much Intel to China & Russia which is treasonous. Trump could have used all the Intel he could get against China for MAGA but Snowden has put America at a serious disadvantage. (See IBM + Cisco + Snowden in China etc.)

FireBrander's picture

Trump said "that authorities needed to find Snowden, arguing that the NSA leaker could provide other governments with classified information about U.S. surveillance programs"

To me, Trump is saying Snowden stole a lot more than what Snowden has released. It would make sense for the Russians to put Snowden out there to inform the US citizens about their crooked government....but TO KEEP SECRET everything else Snowden stole making him a traitor in "Hero's" clothing.

I bet, I'd bet the farm...if you could see EVERYTHING Snowden stole...his "hero" shine would fade to black.

Nobody For President's picture

I'll take that bet, and I have a 'farm' - tree farm homestead with garden.

There is really no so  called top secret shit that the taxpayer citizens should not know. Much of the secrecy jiust covers bureacratic fuckups, the rest is militaristic fuckups.

Remember, the USA is not at war. We are not at war. Fuck all this secrecy. 

A free society not at war does not need 'secrets' - they only hide bureacratic bulllshit and chicanry.

Shemp 4 Victory's picture

 

NBC News reports, citing US intelligence official sources

Fake news squared.

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RichardParker's picture

It's called insurance. 

Self preservation is not the most noble motive, but it is a motive nonetheless.

HopefulCynic's picture

You are a complete imbecile, aren't you buddy? Yes you are, but maybe you don't know it. That probably is because of your zealotry.

 

Only a complete imbecile would trust the government, that includes President Trump. Stop being a lame brain.  Your conclusions are most probably fucked up, because your thought process is fucked up. 

 

It is so idiotic to think that Trump, and Putin are speaking in code to the amercian public, or between each other.

 

Please go to the farm, your zealotry is dangerous. 

Notveryamused's picture

No Sh*t Sherlock. You don't need Trump to tell you Snowden is both a hero and a traitor. Look at IBM, Cisco and other tech company sales to Chinese government since Snowden.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSBRE9AD0J...

George Washington the father of US espionage, personally created the spy network which was instrumental in defeating the British and gaining independence. Even if you are an isolationist, foreign intelligence is a key pillar of national defence & Snowden significantly undermined that as per above.

ed31337's picture

Big time Fake News. The LAST thing Trump would like from Russia is to get Snowden back publically "as a present" right now. Can you imagine what would happen if Snowden was sent back? Trump would either have to pardon Snowden to appease the public, or Trump would have to hang Snowden to appease Deep State.  Under either choice, Trump becomes dead meat. What possible benefit does Trump get from having Snowden back?

The only way Snowden gets back into the USA is by issuing him a new identity and then sneak him in without anybody knowing. Of course, fat chance of that working well, given the TREASONOUS domestic spy progromme we all currently suffer under. 

Sorry Snowden, you're an American hero, but you're going to be stuck in the snow for a loooong time me thinks. At least you're not stuck inside a tiny embassy in the middle of the UK. Maybe you can learn the  local tongue and get yourself a beautiful Russian bride, like Trump has. 

monk27's picture

New troll, same old shit + some Fake News signed NBC. Yeah, whatever...

No Motto's picture

Snowden merely "stole" information about US citizens that the NSA had ALREADY stole from the people of America, which they had no constitutional right to steal in the first place...  Snowden is far from being a traitor.

Pinch's picture

Orange Jesus will kill the whistle blower.

How ironic

lucitanian's picture

"WHAT DID SNOWDEN STEAL?"

Snowden stole the innocence and naivety of millions of Americans and others around the world that believed their governments were there to protect their rights and their privacy, but discovered that in fact their government was abusing them just as badly as the Stasi abused the East Germans in the times of the DDR, something that was held up in the US as abhorrent and represented tyranny at the time in their typical hypocrisy. Millions of USns saw for the first time Big Brother for what he is and realized that tyranny had replaced their delusion of freedom. 

philipat's picture

If Trump does this he will lose his base and become a one term President.

Billy the Poet's picture

He'll lose a vote in Pennsylvania, that's for sure. It was a few thousand people like me who handed Trump the Oval Office. However, while I know about Trump's previous comments on Snowden this sounds like fake news.

Lurk Skywatcher's picture

NBC, a former CIA anti-Trump Hillary supporter, and some unnamed "senior U.S. officials" who have "analyzed a series of highly sensitive intelligence reports detailing Russian deliberations"....

3 highly trustworthy sources, what could possibly be fake about it... I wonder if those sensitive reports were found on an unsecured bathroom server?

philipat's picture

Yes I agree that this probably is fake news designed to generate this very discussion. BUT Trump is on the record with these very views regarding Snowden, which only makes the fake news sound more credible of course. I also don't see Putin doing this because as of now he is on the moral high ground and his stance on Snowden was entirely a moral prerogative. At least publicly but we obviously don't know the full details.

But Trump's achilles heel with his "base" is definitely "national security", which is somewhat paradoxical for a Republican electorate. That said, looking at what Democrats now represent, the whole political system has been turned upside down and the old clichees no longer apply. That's not a bad thing, the political system is totally corrupt and broken and needs turning upside down then re-building from scratch.

Paul Kersey's picture

If the Russians did hand Snowden over, what would Bannon advise Trump to do?

sunaJ's picture

Once a KGB man, always a KGB man.  Putin hates disloyalty.  I don't think he particularly likes Snowden, because he views Snowden as a traitor to his oaths.  But he will remain in Russia's good grace as long as he is useful. If Trump thinks Snowden is important enough to trade him for something worthwhile to Putin, he would do it.  I think Snowden has shown great character and patriotism, but I'm not Trump or Putin.

nc551's picture

Maybe, or he thinks Snowden is the only one that kept his oath.

DownWithYogaPants's picture

Wonder if NBC got their info from a CIA source that got their info from 4Chan ?

J S Bach's picture

Snowden and Assange are of the same class.  Without their bold actions, Trump probably would not have been elected.  Assange especially made public the most recent crimes of the witch which presumably swayed many millions of voters (as if any further proof was needed as to her inherent treason and guilt).

If Trump prosecutes either one of these guys, he will lose a great deal of respect from his base.  He's an intelligent man and I am hopeful that he understands these potential repercussions.

kommissar's picture

agreed.  i'm a late arrival on the trump train, cuz i despise him personally.  i'm all in with the job he's doing, though.  my 71 year old next door neighbor was on board from the beginning, and he's also outspoken in his pro-snowden support.  i think you nailed it.  pretty smart for a dead composer.  btw: luv your brandenburg concertos.

philipat's picture

Bach has always been very special to me also and, if you are not familiar with them, you would also probably like his (only) two Violin Concertos, #1 in A Minor (BMV 1041) and #2 in E (BMV 1042). Quite remarkable music and amongst my favorite classical pieces of its type. I'd recommend the old recordings featuring Yehudi Menuhin for stunning musicianship.

J S Bach's picture

* blush *

Personally, there is still nothing more refined and cultivated than the Mass in B minor.  If this Masterwork doesn't stir your soul to its core, nothing will.

philipat's picture

Yes beautiful and, together with another of my favourites, the Toccata and Fugue in D Minor (BMV 565) at the "Heavier" end of the Bach spectrum unlike the Brandenburg Concertos the OP mentioned and the Violin Concertos in similar style which I recommended in response.

bundas kenyer receptek's picture
bundas kenyer receptek (not verified) philipat Feb 11, 2017 12:01 AM

joo-fiddle playing christian musik .... u out ur fucking mind?

philipat's picture

Music and art don't come with religious or any other labels. It is in the soul and it is universal. Not that your bigotry would in any way allow to appreciate such finer things of being alive. Moron.

lucitanian's picture

So, why go after the messengers instead of the culprit identified in the message?

Trump will do nothing to enforce US law on the Clinton mafia, he's just another poor wanna be branch on the same corrupt elitist tree. Under his tenure, I have no doubt, the security state will be strengthened and become even more abusive against the growing descent of the US people as they discover that, yet again, they've been royally duped, and that the new boss and his regime is even more hideous than the old boss and his or the one before.

Once people are conditioned to accept lesser evils, there's no limit to the depth and breadth of the swamp and the monstrous tyrannies they can be desensitized to abide with. Drain it, my ass. He's already restocking it with a whole new bread of sociopath deviants from the Goldman Sachs, or war loving mad dog, Zionist ass kissing, or corporate oligarch variety.

You wanted change? Its not Bach but You want it darker..

philipat's picture

Wait and see. I think he has no choice but to go fater the Clintons after he offered them TWO olive branches and they pissed on him (recounts, interfering with the electoral college, "Russian" hacking etc.) There comes a point at which if  you can't keep your enemies clsoe you must finish them off. And that is what I expect now we have a new AG in place.

The Chief's picture

JSB,

Let's assume for one second that this isn't fake news. Rule of thumb: anything that comes from MSM via un-named sources is fraudulent....

The real problem (as I see it) for Snowden is the "intelligence community". Trump will come around on Snowden and pardon him if he hasn't changed his mind already....Like Hannity.

However, if Snowden isn't a gargantuan mind fuck, his pardon would destroy the entire intelligence gathering apparatus as we know it. In order to pardon Snowden, we have to acknowledge that its ok for employees of the intelligence community to reveal the secrets of a black, deep state that tracks our every move. I think we have a lot of traitors working for them in Utah, Denver, and Langley, for the record.

The NSA/CIA/DIA etc would kill him if he wasn't a plant or cointelpro against the US population as a giant mindfuck. Do you know how much money is made by certain ZOG parties in the business of fucking over the American people every second via their data gathering and tracking operations?

I say pardon him. I think Trump will. He has to because "op" or "no op", Snowden is viewed by enough peeps on both sides of the phony political spectrum as a hero. If he is dead soon thereafter, we know he was legit.

If he lives, we know he wasn't. But then again, can even Snowden be sure that his zionist puppeteers wont kill him should he return to the US for his many book tour stops?

A bigger problem: The zio-leftist murder machine would likely kill him and blame it on Trump because of his former, public views on Snowden. Note that the recent savage-in-chief never acknowledged Snowden as a hero. What does that tell you about him?

spaniel's picture

Thats for sure, for most Trump supporters, including myself, "hands off Snowden" .

BarnacleBill's picture

I agree that it's more likely to be fake-news from NBC than not. There would be absolutely no benefit for either Trump or Putin to make a deal like this. Trump shoots his mouth off from time to time, but I really don't think he's bastard enough to bring Snowden back for torture.

bh2's picture

It isn't a "win-win" for Russia at all, IMO.

The more apt description of this fake news is: "a kind of utter nonsense."

whoflungdung's picture

Are there any direct flights from Russia to Ecuador?

That might solve the "problem"

philipat's picture

Only via European airspace, which hasn't worked out too well in the past? Europe, to the eternal discredit of its "leadership" is a US vassal State and will do what it is told by Washington. Further evidence in a related matter: Sweden and Assange.