Mike Flynn May Face Felony Charges For Lying To The FBI

Tyler Durden's picture

The FBI had no problem letting Hillary Clinton off the hook despite numerous attempts to hide the truth; Mike Flynn may not be so lucky.

Earlier today, media reports hit that FBI agents interviewed Michael Flynn when he was national security adviser in the first days of the Trump administration about his conversations with the Russian ambassador.

While it is not clear what he said in his interview, the FBI now adds that investigators "believed that Mr. Flynn was not entirely forthcoming, the officials said." That avenue raises the stakes of what so far has been a political scandal that cost Mr. Flynn his job, and which Sean Spicer explained today was merely a matter of Trump "losing trust" in his Security advisor, because if authorities conclude that Mr. Flynn knowingly lied to the F.B.I., "it could expose him to a felony charge", even though some have questioned how an illegally obtained transcript of his phone conversation could be admissable as evidence in a court of law.

The NYT adds that it was shortly after the F.B.I. interview, on Jan. 26, that the acting attorney general, Sally Yates, told the White House that Flynn was vulnerable to "Russian blackmail" because of inconsistencies between what he had said publicly and what intelligence officials knew to be true, as the WaPo reported last night, launching the sequence of events that ultimately led to Flynn's resignation. At issue is a conversation during the presidential transition in which Flynn spoke to the Russian ambassador about sanctions levied against Russia by the Obama administration. The call spurred an investigation by the FBI into whether Flynn had violated the rarely invoked Logan Act, which prohibits private citizens from negotiating with foreign governments in disputes with the United States.

It was here that the NSA, which routinely eavesdrops on calls involving high-ranking foreign diplomats, got involved and recorded the phone call. While officials have said that Flynn was not a focus of the eavesdropping, in retrospect that now appears suspect.

Meanwhile, as clouds gather over Flynn, the White House battled Tuesday to insulate Donald Trump from the scandal over a top aide's contacts with Russia, as calls grew for an independent investigation. Trump's young presidency has been "thrown into turmoil", according to the AFP, after the forced resignation of his national security advisor and long-time supporter Michael Flynn.

The White House said that after weeks of internal investigation - which turned up no wrongdoing but "eroded" trust - Trump had requested and accepted Flynn's resignation late Monday. Flynn is the third Trump aide to step back amid questions about his ties to Russia since the mogul began his improbable White House bid.


The unprecedented early resignation of a key member of staff has rocked an administration already buffeted by leaks, infighting and legal defeats. Amid the tumult, the White House denied that Trump had instructed Flynn to discuss the possibility that Obama-era sanctions would be rolled back.

"No, absolutely not. No, no, no," said White House spokesman Sean Spicer, when asked whether such a conversation took place.

Spicer said the president "instinctively thought that General Flynn did not do anything wrong and the White House counsel's review corroborated that," adding that the counsel "determined that there is not an illegal issue, but rather a trust issue." "The evolving and eroding level of trust as a result of this situation and a series of other questionable instances is what led the president to ask for General Flynn's resignation."

In his first public defense following last night's tumultuous events, Flynn told The Daily Caller before his resignation on Monday that he "crossed no lines" during his conversations with the Russian Ambassador to the U.S. In an effort to defend himself, Flynn pointed to the government leaks about his December conversation as a factor that led to the media furor. He described them as part of a larger trend of government leaks in this administration.

Trump agreed on Tuesday morning when he took to Twitter to insist that "The real story here is why are there so many illegal leaks coming out of Washington?"

Spicer echoed his boss' statement saying "People who are entrusted with national security secrets, classified information, are leaking it out. That's a real concern for this president" and then he pivoted toward Russia. As reported previously, Spicer next insisted that Trump "has been incredibly tough on Russia." In a new clear shift in sentiment, and a hardening of the US line on Russia, Spicer added that "President Trump has made it very clear he expects the Russian government to de-escalate violence in the Ukraine and return Crimea."

The State Department meanwhile expressed concern that Russia is in breach of the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty, after reports that Moscow had deployed an operational ground-launched cruise missile unit.

For now, the White House's efforts are likely to do little to mitigate Congressional concerns about Russia's influence in US politics. On Tuesday the White House admitted the president had known as early as January 26 that Flynn may have made misleading statements, apparently contradicting Trump's statement last Friday that he was unaware of the issue.

Republicans and Democrats in Congress have now called for an investigation into what occurred, although they differ sharply on the scope and powers. "This. Is. Not. Normal." said Democratic Senator Elizabeth Warren, insisting "Trump owes Americans a full account" of his administration's dealings with Moscow before and after the 2016 election.

Making things worse for the president, the US Senate's top Republican Mitch McConnell said it was "highly likely" that Flynn would have to testify before an intelligence panel, potentially heaping pressure on Trump. The CIA, FBI and other intelligence agencies have already investigated Moscow's influence over the 2016 vote, concluding the Kremlin tried to sway it in Trump's favor.

Various committees in the Republican-controlled Congress are looking into Russia's election-related hacking and the Trump campaign's links to Moscow.

For now the focus shifts on the pressing issue at hand - Flynn's immediate replacement: as discussed this afternoon, after Flynn quit, the White House said Trump had named retired lieutenant general Keith Kellogg, a decorated Vietnam war veteran who was serving as a director on the Joint Chiefs of Staff, to be interim national security advisor. However, as both WaPo and the NYT reports, the person who has emerged as the leading candidate to replace Flynn is Vice Admiral Robert Harward, a senior naval officer who served under President Donald Trump's Defense Secretary James Mattis.

Harward is the Chief Executive Officer for Lockheed Martin in the UAE - in which this role "he is responsible for all aspects of the company’s business interests in the UAE, including strategy, operations, growth and execution of Lockheed Martin programs"

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bugs_'s picture

ROFL i am sure the fbi will find that they didn't mean to do anything wrong and grant immunity to everyone since there isn't a double standard

greenskeeper carl's picture

Maybe he can share a cell with James Clapper. He got locked up for lying under oath to congress right?


Oh, right....

Boris Badenov's picture

Democrats set the Non-Presecurial precedent with Obama, how is this not a huge double stanadard?

greenskeeper carl's picture

"It was here that the NSA, which routinely eavesdrops on calls involving high-ranking foreign diplomats, got involved and recorded the phone call."


Looks like it was also the NSA setting a doublestandard when they were unable to keep up with any of killery's 35k deleted emails. Hopefully trumps sees this for what it is and gets busy shitcanning these people. You know who could REALLY provide trump a great service in figuring out who to shit can? Edward Snowden. Give Binney a call, too. Im sure he still knows them.

NoDebt's picture

This is why I didn't get upset when Trump 'resigned' Flynn.  You don't want somebody around who's a question mark when you're trying to roll back the soft coup attempt by the communist who occupied the WH immediately before you.  I know a lot of people think Flynn's an OK guy here on ZH but that's got not a damned thing to do with this.

Oh, and by the way, Comey at the FBI itself should be shown the door, too.  Comey can investigate Flynn as his last act and then Comey gets the axe, too.

Nobody said draining the swamp was going to be some kind of sterile operation.


greenskeeper carl's picture

No, Trump did the right thing here. Whats funny about all this, in a fucked up sort of way, is people hammering trump over this when he DID do the right thing. Clapper perjured himself, committed a felony on TV. He didn't resign, and Obama didn't fire him. Crickets.

Freddie's picture

Neo  Cons still in total control.  Clintons will skate with endless crimes.

Trump better watch his back.  Pence is a Bush snake and was in Houston for the Super Bowl with old devil Bush and James Baker.  They helped whack JFK for LBJ and tried to get Reagan then prioned him.  Reagan should have never let Bush get close to him.

Endless war and Russia aka Christian Russia and Christian Putin will always bethe enemy.  The manufactured Al Qdeacda morphing into ISIS is getting old. 

The honorable and brave Syrian Army keeps plugging away.


Billy the Poet's picture

Only the people can clean out the trash. I'm just about fed up.

Manthong's picture


How do you spell “Presidential Pardon”.


And nothing to stop him from being a well paid consultant with a measly general’s pension for pocket change.


FU Establishment democrats and your McCain/Graham coterie of republican cucks.

PT's picture

I'm hearing good things about the "Grossly Negligent" defence.

jeff montanye's picture

yes trump is probably better off without flynn and his self imposed baggage.

and hillary did far worse and was never prosecuted.  and should be.  soon.

but you want a real tear your heart out blow your mind conflict of interest? 

the judge in charge of the 9-11 families' suits against those that contributed to their losses (that had money and could be found) was alvin k. hellerstein.  at the time, his son was an israeli lawyer working for the firm defending the israeli company that provided passenger sceening security at newark, logan and d.c.

not one of those suits was allowed to go to trial and that decision was upheld at the supreme court.  no one thought it odd the judge's son worked for the defense.  

good to know who rules us.

the trump administration is looking a tad behind the curve in its recent activities.  as a supporter i think they need to put forward some ideas that will change the subject and give the people who voted for trump something to feel better about and some of those that opposed him, the salvageables, a reason to reconsider:

1.  medical and recreational marijuana in all states that want it.  yes i know that’s the way it “is” now (the meaning of is, is) but the trump administration needs to pick its curves to be in front of and this one reduces crime, dials the border a click or two closer to peace, adds to state coffers and provides jobs and entrepreneurial opportunities in the taxed world.  err on the side of no possession arrest.  it is growing in political popularity.  

really put some ingenuity into finding the dea attractive, alternative opportunities.


2.  medicare and those related insurance ppo’s for everyone.  negotiated drug and healthcare prices like canada.  no denial of care based on pre existing conditions (is, is).  

repeal of obamacare as we have come to know it.  http://www.visualcapitalist.com/u-s-healthcare-system-global-outlier-not...


3.  make a trade and aid deal with russia, however the master of the deal thinks best, but just trade and aid, no military or political negotiations as they are trouble and slow things down (russia will never give up crimea), and then lift the damn sanctions.  

sanctions are an act of war and the u.s. has led, not just to war crimes but to the banality of war itself.  war should be special.  it should mean something.  

in general trade and aid not loan or drone. 


4.  follow the lead of israel’s president and negotiate with the israelis and the palestinians toward a one state solution.  full israeli citizenship with full voting rights for every adult in the occupied territories (and gaza) which are then israel proper.  the palestinian leaders will oppose this as they want the job.  they will never get it 'til elected to the knesset.  trust me on this.  the two state solution is both a non starter with israel and a recipe for war.  one state is the answer.  

how much better would the average person in the occupied territories be as a citizen of israel?  the poorest people?  with maybe superior conscientious objector status as part of the reparations for past abuse and to avoid endless bickering over service in the idf.  likely more palestinians will want to be in the military with its marvelous benefits than the israelis will want.  

tear down that wall mr. netanyahu. 


5.  at the margin, on the absolute cheap, encourage wind and photovoltaic power.  not by further impeding fossil fuel but since the former are economically competitive with coal, https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=wind+and+solar+are+..., it makes sense to get in front of another benign curve that melts snowflakes and actually pleases most of trump’s supporters.  wind and solar offer revenue and job opportunities to property owners and workers.  

the utility companies’ establishment is an impediment.  trump didn’t get their campaign contributions.  again, why should he protect them over the common person?  do elections have consequences?  at the margin and on the cheap, fund research on increasing the efficiency of long distance electricity transmission, batteries, wildlife protection, etc.  the real future is covering all buildings in photovoltaic shingles, paint whatever and storing the excess in batteries, broadly defined, for transportation and the night.


6.  convene grand juries under someone of the stature, skills and experience of william k. black (if available, negotiate as needed) to investigate, indict, prosecute and convict the banksters guilty of running the greatest control fraud in history.  no more too big to jail.  giving in to their threats to crash the economy is worse than negotiating with terrorists, yet strangely like it.  

this is also a relatively popular idea on both sides of the aisle at the common person level, the ones who supposedly elected president trump.  and will elect the next congress.


these ideas are strongly revenue, vote and snowflake melting positive and cost, hatred and armageddon negative.

Chris Dakota's picture
Chris Dakota (not verified) Billy the Poet Feb 14, 2017 11:21 PM

kill     (((them)))    all while you still can.

rbianco3's picture

This would have sounded like a radical idea a few years ago.

rbianco3's picture

Time to treat sedition like an act of war - dissapear them

HRClinton's picture

Flynn did not lie to Pence.  Pence was too dense, and did a CYA. 

Classic "He said v. he said".  DJT chose to fire Flynn over Pence. 

Welcome to the Swamp, Crock Trump.

jeff montanye's picture

trump can't fire pence.  he's elected and can only resign or be impeached.

bh2's picture

That Pence "was not entirely forthcoming" isn't particular evidence of a lie. It may be evidence of an evasion, but all he has to do to explain this is to use the old standard Clinton response: "I don't recall".

Worked like a charm for all the Clintonistas. But maybe not for anyone else.

logicalman's picture

Depends what the meaning of 'is' is.

Could you imagine the outcome od some John Doe trying that one on in front of a judge?!

There is NO RULE OF LAW.

There's a 'legal system, and it is not lawful.


Dr. Spin's picture

That's what nullification is for. We need to start practicing it much more often...


hoyeru's picture
hoyeru (not verified) bh2 Feb 15, 2017 12:54 AM

Worked like a charm for all of ol' senile Ronnie's crimes too. Guess you werent born yet. Better start learnin; your history.

BeanusCountus's picture

Nice theory. But doubt that one. You might have prefaced it with "wouldn't be surprised to find out....". Lots of smart people here who will consider theories. Few that take yours as fact with what is available so far.

847328_3527's picture

Comey has to go. He is a weasel and has proven to be inept at his job. He screwed up the San Bernardino massacre and worse yet, he dropped the ball in Orlando. After interviewing the killer twice and following him, they drop the case and a couple of weeks later he slaughters over 50 people?!

Then crooked Hillary and all her co-felons walk away scott free?!

Out the door for you Comey. Replace with a true Amerian patriot who will enforce the law for the American people, not protect DNC and soros friends.

BeanusCountus's picture

Damn, he is a tough one for me to figure out. Not sure of his personal involvement in San Bern and Orlando, please forward me stuff that can help me there.

On Hillary, was really bummed with the first get out of jail free, watching it unfold I swore it was going the other way. But... then he opens it up with what might be THE election swingpoint? Regardless of takin it back on final weekend, damage was done. The guy is a puzzle.

Wouldn't disagree with out the door. Just wondering if this guy turns out to be the American Patriot we all hoped for when history does it's review. Time will tell. Donald's performance will answer the question.

Chauncey Gardener's picture

I'm all in for Sheriff David Clarke to take over Comey's position. He'll clean house and it will be none too soon.

otschelnik's picture

Flynn was Trump's best hope to drain the intelligence community swamp, and he had a vendetta after Obama fired him. The real anti-govt moles are the Clinton/Obama people in DOJ, FBI, NSA, State dept.  First round goes to them. 

roadhazard's picture

You still believe the "draining" shit. How cute.

Chris Dakota's picture
Chris Dakota (not verified) Freddie Feb 14, 2017 9:00 PM

AT LEAST the fuckers didn't get the guns.

eclipse 26th is on progressed USA Sun in Pisces square to Uranus and Moon.

That's us, they are going to be soooooooooooooo sorry.

I denouce my American citizenship right now.

Most of the people here are worthless!

only 25% voted for real change, even though he sold the fuck out.

We own this place, just wait and see.

I wrote to Eeeevanka early on saying "this isn't about your Dad, its about us and we are a movement with or without him" few days later Trump "This is a movement" lol

fuck off

piss off

bastards ^&*%^&%&^$

Whoa Dammit's picture

Hi Chris,

Have you done any work yet on the 8-21 total eclipse that will be visable here?

Chris Dakota's picture
Chris Dakota (not verified) Whoa Dammit Feb 14, 2017 9:44 PM


This is the most important time in American history.

I can not stress that enough.

It is, do or die.

PT's picture

Re "eclipse 26th is on progressed USA Sun in Pisces square to Uranus and Moon.":

What on earth does that even mean?

But I do appreciate reading your comments.

Razor Burn'd Capitalist's picture

+1 Fred



Dennis K drops it like its hot....


Trump folded..... wonder why the Russians are rattling the sword in the last 48hrs.....because they're remiding the Neo'cons just because Trump folded we can "reach out and touch someone"


Shits getting real by the hour....





IndyPat's picture

Also watch this cooz Katie Walsh.
Her and Pence are leaking like a screen door.

Search: Lame Cherry, she's all over it.

JRobby's picture

I think this was a designed plan to show what the "intelligence community" is up to. Flynn was sacrificed and he knew he would be going in.

The "intelligence community", unelected henchmen, exists to advance the interests of the corporate oligarchy by "whatever means necessary" period. This is done with the assistance of all branches of GOVT until now. They no longer "have" the Executive. They set Trump up for failure and embarrassment with the raid where one of our Special Forces soldiers was killed. That is treason. Trump will not forget.

There is a war underway. It is expanding rapidly.

eatthebanksters's picture

Trump needs to carefully and quieltly find a few of the leakers and make examples of them.......then he needs to fire the Obozo accolytes and charge them with felonies, evenn minor ones, and convict them so they can never have a real job again.  What Trump does not realize is the depth of penetration of the government that the Obuttfuck Admin succeeded in and how many enemies he has deep in the pits of the morass.  He needs to ave a polygraph test done on every one in the NSA security sector, the NSA, the CIA, Homeland, FBI and more. They need to answer these questions: 1. Have you ever leaked any confidential information to someone outside your department? 2. Have you ever leaked any confidential information to someone who has a security classification below what was required to learn about the info?  3. Do you support your president, regardless of poitical affiliation?  4. Do you support Donald Trump?  If they answer question 1 or 2 with a yes or 3 and 4 with a no or fail the test they should be immediately fired. 

Drain the fucking swamp.



Chris Dakota's picture
Chris Dakota (not verified) JRobby Feb 14, 2017 9:49 PM

back in 2006 some leftist neighbor of mine said re: Bush impeachment
"Pelosi is playing her cards close to the vest"

Are ya kidding me, people who mean what they say do it and do it bold!

Trump was a foil.

All the Jew kids, all the jew appointments.


you will end up in an oven believing this crap.

Offthebeach's picture

Flynn deserves this for not being up to speed on the two rules reality.

Now three. When you are in a crew taking on the Dems, the Repugs, the Media, MIC, the shufflebum no intelligence rest homes ......it's-ah-gonna-get-rough-capiche?

LowerSlowerDelaware_LSD's picture
LowerSlowerDelaware_LSD (not verified) NoDebt Feb 14, 2017 6:50 PM

Did he say that he wiped it with a cloth?

wisefool's picture

I found my pre 911 physics books. I wiped them with the tax returns I am supposed to file.

wren's picture

Time to circle the wagons. They will go after ANYTHING they can get their hands on! Leave no man standing, no IT workers, nobody that has ties to the former administration!

LowerSlowerDelaware_LSD's picture
LowerSlowerDelaware_LSD (not verified) wren Feb 14, 2017 7:15 PM

And prosecute that old IRS bitch (Lois Lerner?) who made sure to harass any group not of her political liking. She's retired taking in over $100K per year from the tax payer when she should be sitting in jail.

JRobby's picture

She should be burned at the stake.

ReZn8r's picture

Only after they ram a splintered telephone pole up her fucking ass. I mean force the telephone pole up her ass till she bleeds and keep it in there.

Whoa Dammit's picture

I dunno about all this. The way Trump's getting all his people killed off, I'm beginning to think we elected Custer for Prez. (He had orange hair too, at least in the movies.) 

Freddie's picture

Mike Pence is a bush neocon. He was at the super bowl with Poppy Bush and James Baker.  People die and wars get started when old demonic Poppy says so,  Watch out Trump.