Top US, Russian Military Generals To Meet Thursday

Tyler Durden's picture

With a Russian ship sailing in very close proximity to the primary east coast submarine base, and tensions between the US - and perhaps the Trump administration - and Russia, once again rising it seems like an odd moment to organize a meeting between the top US military general and his Russian counterpart on Thursday in Azerbaijan, the first such meeting between the two since military cooperation between the two nations was suspended in 2014 following the hostilities in Ukraine.

U.S. Marine Corps General and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Joseph Dunford will meet with the head of the Russian army's General Staff Valery Gerasimov on Thursday in Azerbaijan, Dunford's office said in a statement on Wednesday.

Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Joseph Dunford

"The military leaders will discuss a variety of issues including the current state of U.S.-Russian military relations and the importance of consistent and clear military-to-military communication to prevent miscalculation and potential crises," the Office of the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff said.

Accompanying Dunfort will be Secretary of State Rex Tillerson who will also meet his Russian counterpart on Thursday, as the Trump administration evaluates the future direction of US-Russian relations.

Tillerson departed Wednesday for a G-20 ministerial meeting in Bonn, Germany, his inaugural international trip as the United States' top diplomat. He'll be joined in Bonn by Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi, and representatives from the world's other major economies.

The Russian Foreign Ministry announced Wednesday that Tillerson and Lavrov will meet on the sidelines of the conference on Thursday. It will be their first such meeting since Tillerson took office. Tillerson's trip comes as the Trump administration is seeking to reassure skittish allies in Europe the US has their backs, all while exploring new areas for cooperation with Russia as advocated by President Donald Trump.

At the same time, European diplomats are watching the new US officials all the more closely after Trump's disparagement of NATO and questions about the utility of sanctions. Similarly, Western military officials are closely following Defense Secretary James Mattis' participation in the NATO ministerial meeting in Brussels and Munich Security Conference this week as well. As CNN adds, it remains to be seen whether the Cabinet secretaries will outline any specific shifts in US positions both on European issues as well as the Middle East.

It's still unclear exactly how the new administration will go about changing course in Syria, and whether doing so will involve additional cooperation with Russia -- which provides military support to the Assad regime.

As Tillerson's plane was taking off in Washington, the Pentagon announced the meeting between Dunford and his Russian counterpart Valeriy Gerasimov, set to take place tomorrow in Azerbaijan.

Meanwhile, in a sign that Trump's pro-Russia stance is moderating, the president's envoys have been expressing positions more keeping with previous US policies. While the Trump administration's response to the recent violence in Ukraine has, so far, been muted, the US Ambassador to the United Nations, Nikki Haley, indicated the US would maintain sanctions on Russia for annexing Crimea in 2014. She condemned what she called the "Russian occupation" of the Ukrainian territory, giving some reassurance to US allies in the region. The sentiment was echoed by Sean Spicer yesterday who said Trump hopes Russia will "return" Crimea to Ukraine.

The Russian Embassy in Washington made it clear this would not happen in a tweet Tuesday afternoon: "We will continue to patiently explain to the new US administration why Crimea is Russia."

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apoplectic query's picture

It's a meeting of peers. The peer to Mattis would be the Russian Minister of Defence, I suppose.

Killdo's picture

having lived in the US for 12 years, I fully agree with you. They would probably welcome the invaders as libarators. There are some moderately brave peple I have met here, but overall it's the most cowardly nation I have ever seen anywhere and I have been aroudn the world a few times. Especially Hillary's voters, gays, young people etc - it's tragic

Killdo's picture

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Ace006's picture

You got the "welcome invaders" part right. Then we give them welfare and jobs or, rather, they take the jobs.

Killdo's picture

I got that quote from Cervantes' Don Quixote

Dickweed Wang's picture

Americans wouild just roll over if invaded because they are FAT lazy fucks and cowards to boot.


Maybe the majority are but far from all, that's for damn sure.  Keep in mind that the Revolutionary War in America involved only about 3% of the colony's population at that time.  The majority of people back then either supported British rule or were on the fence . . . until the end.  Now the percentage that "would resist" either an invasion or something like a dictorial regime is about 15-20% of the population in the USA, or about 50-60 million people - and most if not all of them are gun owners or could be described as being "heavily armed".  Lastly, about 1/5th of that group, or about 10 million people, have either experience in, or knowledge of, things like explosives, guerrilla tactics, IED's, etc.  My bet's on the people of the USA . . . . but with the detonation of a few dozen well placed nukes by someone like China or Russia all bets are off.  Why would they do that you ask?  Use the analogy of the kid in school that constantly gets bullied by some thug and eventually loses it and sucker punches the thug, breaking his jaw and knocking him out . . . people (and countries) can only take so much shit before losing it.


Collectivism Killz's picture

The majority in most countries roll over. Russians are unique in that they become stronger in the face of hardship. I, for one, prefer dialogue and trade over war.

Kevin Trader's picture

Meeting to discuss what to do with Grahm and McShitstain

Whopper Goldberg's picture

Give McAnus and his butt buddy Graham  a nice Polonium on rye sandwich

Dickweed Wang's picture

Give McAnus and his butt buddy Graham  a nice Polonium on rye sandwich


We can only dream some Patriot out there has the balls to do something like that . . .

oncemore's picture

Imperial ambitions have to be forgotten. That is all.

DeeZ_nutZ's picture

no spy ships will get hurt!

Overdrawn's picture

Best way to spy on the US these days is to watch CNN, they're getting first pick on US intelligence leaks it seems.

Swamp Yankee's picture

Lets hope the adults are able to negotiate a situation that does not involve mushroom clouds.


protip: keep the press far, far away.

iClaudius's picture

Mad chihuahua McCain will be demanding the resignation of the US generals. They are clearly traitors to the stars and stripes.

angry_dad's picture

McCain needs another vacation in the hanoi hilton

he still hasn't learned that dropping bombs on people is bad

Duc888's picture



Good, now they can diffuse the debacle that NATO / State Dept created.

gdpetti's picture

Maybe they want to talk about this??

Greenland Ice Sheet defying alarmist predictions – Showing massive growth

alexcojones's picture

Wow, first time since Potsdam? In 1945?
NEVER in my lifetime and I'm almost 70 

quasi_verbatim's picture

Military-to-military is the best and only hope.

William Dorritt's picture

Both Militaries have been in constant contact since the begining of WW2, a good thing

Ace006's picture

Except US officers were strangely unavailable during the US attack on Deir ez-Zor. Coffee break apparently.

Mike Masr's picture

The Crimea is more Russian than the Plymouth Rock is American!

It will be Russia forever.

Maybe our neocon fuck heads want to go to thermonuclear World War 3 with Russia over it!

William Dorritt's picture

NeoCons are still mad at Russia for how they treated the Jews 100 years ago.

Even though the Bolshevik Jews murdered 10s of millions of Russians and Ukrainians in the 1920s, 30s and 40s

World-Gone-Mad's picture

What NEOCONS like is taking war as far as they possibly can without going to all-out nuclear war.

It's a game of chicken. This keeps the war racket going for contractors and their massive bribes and paybacks to politicians and the top corporate sponsors of Big Pharma, Big Media, Big Education, etc. Keep the highest amout of money rolling in at top optimization all the time. This is why Obama did nothing, nor Bush, Clinton.....

IridiumRebel's picture

"what? We need nuclear war!"
with love,

Son of Captain Nemo's picture




Why is it again that Dunford hasn't been eliminated like Prince Bandar yet for his crimes against humanity starting with 9/11?!!!

HenryHall's picture

The Ukrainian authorities introduced a state of emergency in the country's energy sector today 15 Feb 2017. Though DNR is willing to ship coal, it is blocked by Ukrainian nationalists in the Kiev controlled sector of Donbas. Kiev will run out of coal in 45 days unless supplies are restored.

cheech_wizard's picture

Meanwhile (a bit old news, but puts things in perspective) in Crimea...

Standard Disclaimer: Raise a toast to Putin.

TabakLover's picture

Why are Americans conditioned to hate the Russians?  Stoopid.  Russians are the mofoing Neocons favorite wolf to scare the American 'sheeple' with.

angry_dad's picture

it'ss called propaganda distributed by the fake news factories

chubbar's picture

Every news outlet, whether CNN or FOX, is banging the war drums for Russia. Why? It is so obvious that the deep state is pushing this narrative I can only think it has something to do with the economy. They must be desperate to deflect attention away from domestic issues or something along those lines. I can't remember the last time I've seen all the networks align behind one central theme since 911.

Ace006's picture

FoxNews trots out anti-Russian zealots like Bolton, Keane, McFarland, and Peters on the hour every hour.

Opposing views? Don't hold your breath.

Ace006's picture

They were a real threat with a monstrous history during the time of the USSR. Now it's as you say.

angry_dad's picture

The rooskies will give TRUMP their latest surveillance tapes of people who visit orgy island.

I wonder who they could be?

William Dorritt's picture

Bush 2 is the one that gave Epstein a pass and disappeared the tapes from all of Epstein's properties and airplane.

Herdee's picture

NATO gradually creeping in on Russia's borders over the years hasn't helped.

Ace006's picture

That's so rude of you to point that out.

vesna's picture

let's wait what the smart guys say

cheech_wizard's picture

Meanwhile in Brussels, Mattis has some choice words for NATO.

Standard Disclaimer: Pay up, bitchez.

World-Gone-Mad's picture

Exacty what needs to happen. Good work. Now, keep McCain and Graham locked away in a playpen while the real men talk this out.

jabs69's picture

Imagine if in the end what we find out has been causing all of this tension across the world for the last decade+ is Podesta's love of kiddie genitalia?

wonderfulme's picture

At the same time, Mattis is urging "the need to negotiate with Russia "from a position of strength."

Thus far, this administration is nothing short of schizophrenic.

khnum's picture

The Apprentice with nuclear weapons with a foreign policy back in Israels hands...this will not work out well