A Civil War For Control Of The US Government Has Erupted Between "The Deep State" And Donald Trump

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Submitted by Michael Snyder via The End of The American Dream,

The ruthless political assassination of Michael Flynn was just one battle of a major civil war that has erupted for control of the U.S. government. Donald Trump and his new administration are now under relentless assault by “the deep state”, and at this point it is not clear who will emerge as the victor. There are many that use the term “deep state” as a synonym for the intelligence community, but the truth is that it is much broader than that. In reality, the deep state encompasses thousands upon thousands of unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats that never seem to change no matter which party wins an election. Certainly the intelligence community is at the heart of this system, but there are countless others that are embedded within key government agencies and the Pentagon that deeply resent Donald Trump and the kind of change that he is attempting to bring to Washington.

There is a vast and exceedingly complex tapestry of laws, rules and regulations that govern the behavior of government officials. In past administrations, those laws, rules and regulations have been very selectively enforced, but now the “deep state” intends to use them as weapons against the Trump administration.

In essence, Donald Trump and his team are walking through a minefield, and his enemies are watching like a hawk for even the smallest slip up.

Theoretically, everyone working for the federal government is now working for Donald Trump. But in reality that is not the case. I wrote about the sabotage that is being done by Obama loyalists a few days ago, and it isn’t going to stop until Donald Trump does a complete housecleaning.

Michael Flynn was taken out because he was an easy target. But now that he is gone, the saboteurs are immediately going to proceed to their next targets.

For example, just today we learned that Trump’s choice for labor secretary, Andrew Puzder, was forced to withdraw.

Trump’s political enemies are going go after whoever they can. Trump’s family, friends and business associates are all fair game. Politics in America has become an exceedingly dirty game, and many believe that this is an indication that our republic is in the process of failing. I really like how Damon Linker described this in an article for The Week

The whole episode is evidence of the precipitous and ongoing collapse of America’s democratic institutions — not a sign of their resiliency. Flynn’s ouster was a soft coup (or political assassination) engineered by anonymous intelligence community bureaucrats. The results might be salutary, but this isn’t the way a liberal democracy is supposed to function.


Unelected intelligence analysts work for the president, not the other way around. Far too many Trump critics appear not to care that these intelligence agents leaked highly sensitive information to the press — mostly because Trump critics are pleased with the result. “Finally,” they say, “someone took a stand to expose collusion between the Russians and a senior aide to the president!” It is indeed important that someone took such a stand. But it matters greatly who that someone is and how they take their stand. Members of the unelected, unaccountable intelligence community are not the right someone, especially when they target a senior aide to the president by leaking anonymously to newspapers the content of classified phone intercepts, where the unverified, unsubstantiated information can inflict politically fatal damage almost instantaneously.

For many years, I have written about how the U.S. government has been transformed into a police state. And ultimately it is not the politicians that have been spying on all of us – it is the deep state that has been doing it.

According to USA Today, the deep state has been intercepting communications from Trump and his team for “months”, and so this “investigation” was actually going on all the way back during the election. And now the deep state is disclosing the “dirt” that they have collected in order to destroy political reputations. As Bloomberg has pointed out, this “is what police states do”…

Normally intercepts of U.S. officials and citizens are some of the most tightly held government secrets. This is for good reason. Selectively disclosing details of private conversations monitored by the FBI or NSA gives the permanent state the power to destroy reputations from the cloak of anonymity. This is what police states do.

This entire episode makes me deeply ashamed of my country.

In the end, it doesn’t even matter that much if Michael Flynn would have done a good job in his position or not.

What matters is that we have an intelligence community that has gone rogue and that is completely out of control.

And now that this “civil war” has begun, it is being reported that there are some within the intelligence community that are absolutely determined to destroy Donald Trump. In fact, one former NSA analyst says that he got a message from a friend still inside the intelligence community that stated that Trump “will die in jail” once this civil war is over…

According to former NSA analyst John Schindler, elements of the intelligence community have gone “nuclear” against President Donald Trump and are now vowing “he will die in jail”.


Schindler, a former professor at the Naval War College, is known to be provocative with his tweets, but what he revealed earlier today is still raising eyebrows.


Schindler was asked by another Twitter user, “What do you think is going on inside NatSec right now after Trump’s “intelligence” tweet this morning?”


That was a reference to Trump tweeting that information was being illegally leaked by members of the CIA and NSA to the Washington Post and the New York Times.


Schindler responded, “Now we go nuclear. IC war going to new levels. Just got an EM fm senior IC friend, it began: “He will die in jail.”

Can you see why I am describing this conflict as a “civil war”? To me, this is definitely treason…

For now, this civil war is a “cold war”, but we aren’t too far away from it potentially becoming a “hot war”.

I have previously written about how the U.S. is on the verge of major civil unrest, and it is also a major theme in my novel. The anger and frustration that have been building up in this country for a very long time could explode at any moment. All it is going to take is some sort of trigger event.

And there are many that very much agree with me. For example, just today I saw an article by Charlie Daniels in which he warned that we could soon see “blood on the streets”…

I see young people interviewed on television who can’t even articulate the reason they are protesting. Others bent on destruction who probably espouse no cause but chaos.


I’ve seen hysterical protestors screaming about First Amendment rights which they seem to think only protect them and those who think like them and that the opposition has no First Amendment protection and should be shouted down at all costs.


The rhetoric is becoming hotter and more nonsensical, the radical element more apparent, the violence and destruction of property more common place.


The pot is boiling and it’s only a matter of time before there will be blood on the streets.

If I was Donald Trump, I would make a major housecleaning of every government agency and the Pentagon my top priority.

Because if he allows thousands of saboteurs to remain embedded in key positions within the government, his administration will fail.

So let us hope that we see the biggest wave of firings and resignations in modern American history in the weeks and months ahead, because that is what is going to be necessary for Donald Trump to win this struggle for control of the government.

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Kill 'em all Donnie.

Let God sort 'em out. 

TeamDepends's picture

Congratulations commies, you are fighting FOR the Deep State! You knew that, right?

Chris Dakota's picture
Chris Dakota (not verified) TeamDepends Feb 16, 2017 9:05 PM

Pic on the left is Rick Santorum's mouth.

AlaricBalth's picture

And who controls the Deep State? Follow the money.
The Defense contactors. Big Pharma. Etc.
Those deep pocketed mega corporations who gain only if the status quo in maintained.

NoPension's picture

Frog march some of these motherfuckers. Lock them up, for serious time. Make some examples.
Fire. Pull pensions.

This is war. A coup d'etat. And I don't trust that fucking Obama one bit.

Trump will not ever have it easy. Even if he completely rolled. So, he might as well pull out all stops. As one of his supporters, that's what I want to see.

TheMeatTrapper's picture

If Trump goes to jail, I go to war.

J S Bach's picture

I hate to even speculate on this, but if the "Deep State" wins this civil war... one great thing will come of it.  At least half of the sane population of this country will KNOW who the treasonous creatures are.  There will inevitably follow a second civil war on the heals of this clandestine one.  Righteous assassinations of the traitors will begin.  There is no stopping truth once it's known to a majority.

beemasters's picture

Just came across this right after posting my comment below:

BREAKING - HUGE Exclusive Interview With DHS Insider! Talks About #PizzaGate #PedoGate & Much

"Do you ever wonder why both Democrats and Republicans fall all over themselves to kiss up to Israel? Odd, since Israel is the size of Rhode Island… The fact is, many of our politicians – on both sides – have been compromised by CIA and Mossad for years. It’s actually not admiration they are expressing for Israel, but fear. Notice Lindsay Graham and Chuck Schumer repeating the same salute when it comes to Israel. How does that even happen? The American people are finally seeing that there is no two-party system, but one big shadow Government pretending we have political dichotomy."

"PedoGate is only a modern term associated with a long history of Pedo-blackmail connected to both Israel and the Intel community. There is a full court press to stop PedoGate from being looked at because if people knew the true motives behind the pedophilia epidemic, they would do more than march on Washington. They could actually seed a revolution, with the spark coming from decent American parents who want to protect their kids. Our politicians are compromised. The senior analyst nicknamed “FBI Anon” alluded to this in his exchange with folks on 4chan and with you."

"There are videos of some of the most powerful players in the most humiliating positions. If this gets out, not only are the politicians ruined, but the extortion game is over and suddenly, the influence CIA and Mossad wield over Washington, is gone."


Lyman54's picture

Thanks for that link Beemaster, I watched the video.  It was pretty good.

RibbitFreedom's picture

Watched that clip man, looks like sound information, that would all make sense.

c0nan's picture

Thanks beemasters!

All of you read this article, it's important everyone knows the truth: http://victuruslibertas.com/2017/02/exclusive_interview_with_dhs_insider/

TwelveOhOne's picture

I cannot reach it, get a service down and 503 error.  Fortunately, the YouTube link that beemasters shared contains the same content.  (I watched it paused, and just hit the right-arrow to move forward 5 seconds at a time, reading while it scrolled.)

Lyman54's picture

There is a great book out that is still in publication that outlines the beginning of the Deep State.  It is called The Secret Team by Fletcher Prouty.  A real eye opener.  This has been going on since the late 1950's.

Paul Kersey's picture

Deep State is ruled by totalitarian corporatists. Deep State ruled during the Clinton, Bush and Obama years, and the Trump Administration has become the safest of safe harbors for Goldman Sachs/Rothschild-schooled totalitarian corporatists. These corporatists will increase their wealth extraction at a feverish pace, in order to extract all they can, in money and natural resources, before the system finally collapses. They will control the exponentially growing army of struggling debt-serfs they have created, with an iron fist.

turnoffthewater's picture

Yeah someone needs to post a list to work from if it should happen.

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espirit's picture


Fake News.

CWII starts when bullets fly and Walmarts shut down.

Until then, popcorn bitchezz.

strannick's picture

Satanist CIA, drug dealing, blackmailing, killing Presidents . More in common with the KGB than America

Heavy's picture

They are anti-american

Zorba's idea's picture

I would advise team trump to order daily "top gun" flybys over Obummer's new residence. 

bionicknees's picture

Its time to turn Blackwater loose on these traitors.

Lockdown the CIA headquarters. Turn it into prison camp.

beemasters's picture

One way to destroy the Deep State is to tackle their stranglehold on politicians. Investigate #pedogate in DC!!! Saving those helpless kids should have been a priority in the first place.

Chupacabra-322's picture

The Deep State has completely lost the ability to Gas Light the masses. The Presstitute media operative's have officially been discredited with the masses finally critically thinking for themselves.

The Deep State will always exist. However, the Pure Evil Criminal Psychopathic Highly Compartmentalized Rogue Levels of it are being delt with. Which is what the World is witnessing.

c0nan's picture

Agreed. We all need to open our eyes to the scope of their deception, which is staggering, and start from the beginning. The truth will lead to a mental revolution, set us free, and change the world: https://youtu.be/QnVQUSSUQH4


In the immortal words of AAHHNOLD, when he still did less harm in movies than he did as the Goobernator..............

Fuck you, Asshole.

Constitution Rules.

Shove your hysterical Schopenhauer rhetoric right up your poop chute covered in flaming napalm for lube.. 

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solkashberg (not verified) TeamDepends Feb 16, 2017 9:21 PM

Actually, everyone involved is fighting for the deep state. Just like at this years super bowl, they own both teams. This is theatre, people, and we are just the over excited spectators. Nothing is going wrong. Trump IS the deep state. Or do you believe a 70 year old man had an epiphany and decided to fight for whats right? Do people still really believe anyone counts the votes in 'elections'?

exi1ed0ne's picture

Sometimes people DO have enough and decide to do something about it, and he has articulated that since the 80's.  Trump is pure miscalculation by the Deep State.  They figured that he would be easy to prop up Hillary against and hand her the crown.  Fucking whoops!  There would not be such intense outrage at all the historically controlled institutions - Media, Hollywood, Universities, and even some of the larger new media (fuck you /u/Spez!) - if this was some part of the master plan.  The modern day brown shitrs, or as I call them the rainbow shirts, are mobilized in full. Trump is a lot of things, but he is one thing for sure - a YUUUUGE spanner in the works with an ego large enough to win.

I honestly haven't enjoyed politics like this in never.  Bring on the next act!

Squid-puppets a-go-go's picture

very accurate assessment, my man

TheLastTrump's picture



Trumps been planning on running for prez at least since 2000. Fuck yourself with a red hot poker.

HardAssets's picture

I truly hope there are the military & intel insider 'White Hats' helping & guiding Pres Trump as some have suggested.

The author of this article says Trump should purge those working against him. - - And how exactly is he to do that ? They're not waving a sign saying "Here I Am".

In this, Putin is at a great advantage. He comes from the intelligence world & knows their methods and the players. Our President is a patriot and real estate businessman. He's very smart, but will require the help of those experienced in all this. The challenges he faces are likely tremendous.

sarz's picture

The president, thanks to the exertions of Obama and friends, has vast emergency powers that would have been anathema to the founding fathers. Since the republic is coming unglued, he should use them, starting with control over the airwaves and major media. He could empower competing respected journalists such as Christopher Bollyn, Mike Rivero and many, many others associated with independent websites of a vast variety of persuasions. And then he could use the military to take over or neutralize the intelligence agencies. 

If he doesn't act quickly, he should expect impeachment proceedings soon, where he will be judged by thoroughly compromised Congressmen fighting for their privileges, their necks and their satanic dishonor. 

D Nyle's picture

When the intell agencies start spying on its own citizens, shows that there are way too many of them

chindit13's picture

Well aren't you a fucking tool. Intel agencies are not spying on US Persons. Trumps wants to correct that so that they can.

I can put up your name, home address, everything about you, including your goddamn High School Yearbook photo, just because of your post here. You like that? You actually think you are anonymous? Child.

Trump wants that power. We won't give it to him.


D Nyle's picture

You have issues, you just proved my point in your own post. Intellectually challenged must be expressed a lot when your around

TheMeatTrapper's picture

#Fuckyou #Seeyoumotherfuckersinhell 

SgtShaftoe's picture

Interesting. Are you claiming everything Binney, Snowden and the people I knew at Gordon weren't listening to US citizens and person's calls? Xkeyscore certainly has everything.

I know there are some good people at NSA and other places like Naval Intelligence, but they're becoming fewer every day from my read of the situation.

I purposefully walked away from that stuff a long time ago so I'm no longer plugged in.

SixIsNinE's picture

i liked Deity Bounce & Drop Jeep too :) Lulz!

Bill of Rights's picture

Seriously? Give someone else a chance at the computer, it's a library dam it.

TheLastTrump's picture

lol this guys a laugh riot, went FULL RETARD and never looked back....


Giant Meteor's picture

I agree with several of your thesis points. Of note is your first "official" piece titled, "Cult of Personality."

Now, where we seriously disagree is the matter of "intelligence gathering" and its usage. Let us say, for the sake of your argument, the intellligence community writ large, (and it is, very large) is not in the business of "spying on Americans", you know, little John, Mary and Jane Doe, who merely go about their business doing no wrong, minding their own business etc.

It is widely understood, well documented by Binney, Wilkerson, as example, and many others, what the deep state capabilities have evolved, devolved in to  . Further, I believe it is well documented, just how much chaos, death, and destruction, the deep state, and its bureaucratic lackeys have done around the world and to the nation. That fact is not open to debate, by reasonable and rational people.

So are we to assume, that all this evil done, in the "NAME" of the American people and our republic, for which it stands, will never be used against its own citizens? Of course not. It is, has, and will be used. The mere fact that these "deep state" actors even possess the amount of unelected, unaccountable power that they do, to destroy all of us, is the very argument that should allow the dissolution, and cancellation of their very existence. How would this occur in theory or practice?

Donald Trump being no saviour, certainly no saint, has forced a few corrupt, dirty, statist assholes from their lofty perches. He has for better or for worse, forced into the open the vipers, and statists, and brought the debate into the national conscience, front and center. I see this as a positive development after sleep walking through the last 8 years.

Do you believe that this would have happened any other way, or that Hillary and company would have somehow been "transparent" with the American people in regards to, anything?

I'll take my chances with the accidental president, DJT, calling out the game as he and his "team" sees it, whether or not I even agree with him at this point matters very little. What you see, is what you get. Let him either on purpose or by accident, incriminate and expose it all, to finish perhaps where Snowden left off, to show the depth and breadth of corrupt America, land that I love.

In short, you have those that believe present POTUS is enemy #1, a maniacal, ego driven narcissist, (aren't they all) crazy to the bone, who will devolve the nation into chaos, civil and or, global war.

On the other hand there are those who believe, he is a champion of the people, the hired gunslinger rode into town, to save the day at this the hour of vindication and deliverance. Our showdown at high noon in defense of the Republic. In truth neither of these are entirely true, nor are they entirely false ..

But if he has done nothing else but this one thing, he is to be credited for bringing down generations of corrupt political "dynasties" which were NEVER, ever intended by the framers, to be at the root of the nations continued and healthy survival.

The tree of liberty, all that ...

Mr. Trump has, if you will, made the game clear, as to what is at stake. Far to long un-elected deep state actors have had their way with the American people and their "democratic process." Mr. Trump now an elected member, of the deep state, and all fake Russian news, assorted propaganda aside, we will see soon enough, where the rubber finally does, meet the road.


Zorba's idea's picture

Well said, very well said. may we call your meteor PaineII?

webmatex's picture

I don't even have a goddamn High School Yearbook photo.

Please tell me who i am.

Dildocks's picture

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SixIsNinE's picture

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halcyon's picture

" Intel agencies are not spying on US Persons"

Stop smoking crack. Read about NASA Prism.

US Intel agencies spy on everybody. Everywhere. Even outside US, where they have zero jurisdiction.

Any democratically elected representative should just blow all the US agencies to smithereens.

JFK tried that with CIA and that didn't go down too well...



NoPension's picture

Over 25,000 a day go to NSA at Ft. Meade MD.

The same number that used to go to the now gone Bethlehem Steel.

Manufacturing gone. Replaced by Government PAID spies.

And that's just one location. What in the fuck is going on?

webmatex's picture

It was called 9/11 but some folks forget.

DosZap's picture

Your statement is exactly why in retropect I wish the Cold War never ended.

Back then, Americans as a whole were left the hell alone.Cause the PTB had BIG Fish to fry.(LIFE FOR most Americans was far better in every way.)