Russia's Lavrov To Tillerson: "We Do Not Interfere In The Domestic Matters Of Other Countries"

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Secretary of State Rex Tillerson met his Russian counterparty, Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, at a G20 summit in Germany in the pair’s first meeting since Tillerson became secretary of state, and comes as a possible Russia-US rapprochement is in the spotlight. Moscow and Washington have much to discuss, Lavrov told Tillerson at their first meeting in Bonn, Germany, on Thursday.

"Mostly, it includes issues addressed by the two presidents during their phone conversation. I think that we could identify parameters of our future cooperation on each of those topics," he stated.

More importantly, Lavrov once again focused on current developments in Washington in which Trump administration links to Russia are under the spotlight, and said that these are US domestic affairs, in which Moscow has no interest in meddling.

"You should know we do not interfere in the domestic matters of other countries," Lavrov told reporters when asked if "turbulence" in the American capital has ramifications for US-Russia relations.

He spoke days after U.S. President Donald Trump asked for the resignation of his key national security adviser Michael Flynn amid questions about his conversations with Russian officials. He added the two countries had "plenty of issues" to discuss."

Earlier comments from the Russian Foreign Ministry suggested that Syria and sensitive bilateral issues would be discussed at the meeting, RT reported.

The US State Department told reporters the upcoming conversation with Lavrov “obviously will be a very important one,” adding that Tillerson is likely to use the occasion to seek “ways for pragmatic and constructive cooperation in areas where our interests overlap.” Areas of mutual interest might include “counter-ISIS [Islamic State] and counterterrorism” efforts, State Department officials said at a special briefing.

The officials also said that Tillerson would not soften Washington's stance on Ukraine, a crisis which remains largely unresolved. The secretary of state would “push for full implementation of the parties’, including Russia’s, commitments under the Minsk agreement for the Donbass.”

 

Ukraine and the issue of economic sanctions look like becoming a stumbling block for future dialogue between Moscow and Washington. President Donald Trump has claimed that Crimea – a region that was reunited with mainland Russia following a 2014 referendum – was “taken” by Moscow, prompting a measured but swift response from the Russian Foreign Ministry.

 

“Crimea is part of the Russian Federation,” Zakharova told reporters on Wednesday.

It will be the first time Lavrov has met the newly-appointed Tillerson. It comes as US-Russia relations are under particular scrutiny following the election of President Trump, who has repeatedly pledged to mend ties with Moscow.

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Stan522's picture

....and you don't wear wooley hats in winter too...

The central planners's picture

Oh he met with a Russian, so... Tillerson got to be a spy.

wildbad's picture

wow, two rational people talking, both sensibly relieved that the days of double dealing obama treachery are over.

this makes me feel good

BabaLooey's picture

Oh Sergey STOP......you toothy grinning liar....

We ALL "involve ourselves in other countries domestic operations" - you shot of dirty vodka down the hatcher.....

ALL of us do.

PT's picture

No, I believe he is telling the truth.  When your enemy is self-destructing, you stay the hell outta the way.  Said many years ago by some smart guy.

BennyBoy's picture

 

Russia's Lavrov To Tillerson: "We Do Not Interfere In The Domestic Matters Of Other Countries"  Tillerson Replies To Lavrov: "We Do Interfere In The Domestic Matters Of Other Countries"
Creative_Destruct's picture

If Tillerson were to speak bluntly and honestly, he would say that, because, in addition to  covert intervention....

marching your military in in the name of democracy is REALLY intervening.

MAJOR case of cognitive dissonance for the neocon interventionists to bitch and moan so indignantly.

LawsofPhysics's picture

...unlike the U.S.S.A.  Sure sure...

War is a racket folks, and a rather profitable one at that.

Ignatius's picture

We need to get those dual citizen, dual loyalty, war mongering Russians out of our government.  Oh, wait....

froze25's picture

dual citizens loyalty is in question, the shouldn't be allowed to hold government positions. Especially in senior positions.

Dame Ednas Possum's picture

Perhaps an impartial referendum should be held for the people of Crimea... and Lugansk... and Donetsk... for ascension into Russia. 

No doubt it will be an overwhelming majority to protect themselves from genocide. 

And it will shut up the NATO tribe and lackeys. 

Will Russia accept the D and the L? It removes their buffer zone. 

PT's picture

No, the liars will never give up lying.  They will lie louder and bolder.  Power never simply gives up and walks away.

Torgo's picture

Those referendums were held in 2014.

AlexCharting's picture

From WWII to Syria... America has made a bad situation worse by intervening. 

East Indian's picture

For the first time in nearly one hundred years, Russians are in a position of widely acknowledged moral superiority; they should thenk Obama and his team. 

Gazooks's picture

We don't 'intervene'.

 

We create crisis and pretend interest in resolving it with bombs and invasion.

 

We are Corruption Inc.

Dollar_Store_Confucius's picture

At least Tillerson didn't arrive wearing a pink bicycle helmet like his predecessor Mr. Ed. First impressions and all that.....

BigFatUglyBubble's picture

We interfere with them:

 

Feb 15

"Crimea was TAKEN by Russia during the Obama Administration. Was Obama too soft on Russia?"

A. Boaty's picture

Russia should demand that the USSA give California back to Mexico.

Caleb Abell's picture

What about the US occupation of the Hawaiian Kingdom?

barysenter's picture

Southern California was claimed by the spanish empire, not the criminal oligarchy ne socialist dictatorship that is Mexico. The spanish failed miserably to occupy it.

Flybyknight's picture

And Hawaii back to the Hawaiians Diego Garcia back to the Diego Garcians, Okinawa back to the Japanese, Bikini Atoll back to the .....oh thats right that place is totally fucked.

samjam7's picture

Lavrov thinking to himself "No ugly Idaho potato and no red reset button, well I guess that's a start."

roadhazard's picture

I know I'm sold how about you.

barysenter's picture

I know organized criminals posing as my representatives hypothecated my name, oversold it to the tune of about 84 million silver dollars and ran off with your money. How about you?

Thought Processor's picture

 

 

U.S. Reply:  We do!

 

Just look the history of U.S. intervention over the last, oh I don't know 100 or so years.........

 

Instances of the United States overthrowing, or attempting to overthrow, a foreign government since the Second World War. (* indicates successful ouster of a government)

  • China 1949 to early 1960s
  • Albania 1949-53
  • East Germany 1950s
  • Philippines 1950's
  • Iran 1953 *
  • Guatemala 1954 *
  • Costa Rica mid-1950s
  • Syria 1956-7
  • Egypt 1957
  • Indonesia 1957-8
  • British Guiana 1953-64 *
  • Iraq 1963 *
  • North Vietnam 1945-73
  • Cambodia 1955-70 *
  • Laos 1958 *, 1959 *, 1960 *
  • Ecuador 1960-63 *
  • Congo 1960 *
  • France 1965
  • Brazil 1962-64 *
  • Dominican Republic 1963 *
  • Cuba 1959 to present
  • Bolivia 1964 *
  • Indonesia 1965 *
  • Ghana 1966 *
  • Chile 1964-73 *
  • Greece 1967 *
  • Costa Rica 1970-71
  • Bolivia 1971 *
  • Australia 1973-75 *
  • Angola 1975, 1980s
  • Zaire 1975
  • Portugal 1974-76 *
  • Jamaica 1976-80 *
  • Seychelles 1979-81
  • Chad 1981-82 *
  • Grenada 1983 *
  • South Yemen 1982-84
  • Suriname 1982-84
  • Fiji 1987 *
  • Libya 1980s
  • Nicaragua 1981-90 *
  • Panama 1989 *
  • Bulgaria 1990 *
  • Albania 1991 *
  • Iraq 1991
  • Afghanistan 1980s *
  • Somalia 1993
  • Yugoslavia 1999-2000 *
  • Ecuador 2000 *
  • Afghanistan 2001 *
  • Venezuela 2002 *
  • Iraq 2003 *
  • Haiti 2004 *
  • Somalia 2007 to present
  • Honduras 2009
  • Libya 2011 *
  • Syria 2012
  • Ukraine 2014 *

Oh yeah and a U.S. Gov. 1963.  Of course this is the one that should raise the most questions.  As in, hey wait a minute.............

 

 

 

 

 

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PoasterToaster (not verified) Thought Processor Feb 16, 2017 10:36 AM

Certain people have been using the US government to destabilize the world.

jjtech's picture

of course. But it's up to the US citizens to get rid of this "certain people's" influece... How it's being done? Take a look at Trump's advisor team - young J'wish hawks

Thought Processor's picture

 

 

"Certain people have been using the US government to destabilize the world."

 

This is correct.  

 

And most people don't realize that the JFK assasination was actually a counter coup, in that Nixon was supposed to win and was sponsored by the 'Old Boys' network (Prescott Bush, Rockefellas, CIA and the Israel / Zionist faction with the Lansky link).  JFK essentially did an end run around them (using largely his family money and therefor not being in debt to anyone [except perhaps the Chicago Giancana episode via the Joe Kennedy deal which may have helped get his son killed]), and snuck past the gate and into the Presidency.  

 

JFK actually disrupted the 'Old Boy' network in what can be considered a coup of what was then the shadow governemnt which had been running the show since the early 1900's.  He then proceeded to 'castrate' this network by gutting the CIA via. the Dulles, Bissell faction firing, issuing currency via the treasury directly and not via the FED, and putting all Joint Chiefs operations under the President.  He was also beginning to rethink the whole cold war era policy. 

 

 

After JFK's assasination everything reverted back to the 'Old Boy' network which then quickly turned itself into the 'Deep State' in part via Vietnam / Cambodia / Laos / Thailand.  

 

Here's the crazy part- the deep state is now, today far larger and encompases far more than the covert / overt U.S. operations alone.  Another factoid that should wake people up-  The 'classified' U.S. Government is now larger than the 'unclassified' U.S. Government.  

 

The above is the real fundamental problem at play.  

goldinpenguin's picture

they bring new jersey to heel with federal highway funds,"the power to toll is the power to destroy", Daniel Webster

goldinpenguin's picture

what part of New World Order don't you unnerstand?

PoasterToaster's picture
PoasterToaster (not verified) Feb 16, 2017 10:36 AM

Why would they need to?  The CIA is apparently doing the work of the old KGB for them.  Fucking traitors in Langley.

hangemhigh77's picture

That's actually a true and credible statement in my opinion.

Mike Masr's picture

The US Meddled and Interferred in Ukraines internal affairs ie; Regime Change-Coop

The US Obama Administration should never have done what it did in Ukraine. No more than Russia should ever get involved if there was a problem between the US and Mexico. I can only imagine the hell that would break loose if Russia fomented, paid for, and assisted in a violent overthrow of the legitimately and democratically elected government in Mexico. Imagine the FSB working from the Russian Embassy inside Mexico  helping radicals use social media to foment violent pubic unrest. Then Russian Duma members in Mexico City handing out tacos, and tamales emboldening / urging people to riot, to overthrow the government and toss the bums out. Then Putin's executive group hand picking all the new (anti-USA) drug cartel junta puppet leaders of Mexico and a Russian senator, Ivan MiKainelov in Mexico City stating on RT, there are no drug cartels here!

On the other side of the world Obama's neocon warmongers spent billions doing exactly this! See my links below. Instead of drug cartels it was Banderist Neo-Nazis. Obama and our evil Russophobe neocons, including Victoria Nuland, Geoffrey Pyatt and John McCain intentionally caused all of this fucking mess, civil war and horrific death in Ukraine on Russia’s border and then placed the blame for all of THEIR evil deeds on Putin and Russia. The US State Department and the MSM began their demonization of Putin and Russia. Putin is Satan and Russia is aggressive. The new boogeyman was created. WTF!!!   

Thanks to John McCain and our evil fucking neocons - the regime change policy implemented by Obama, Hillary Clinton, Victoria Nuland and her minions, like Geoffrey Pyatt, the Ukraine today is totally fucked. The golden prize of this violent undemocratic regime change was supposed to be the Crimea. This neocon scheme did not work out as planned. No matter what sanctions the neocons put on Russia they will NEVER give back the Crimea!

Our neocon fuck heads spent billions of our hard earned taxpayer dollars to create pain, suffering, death and a civil war inside Ukraine on Russia's border!

 

Tech Camp NGO operating out of US Embassy in Kiev

(using social media to help bring out radicals-to cause civil war-pre Maidan Rada speech 2013)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9hOl8TuBUM

Nuland talks about $5 billion spent on Ukraine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaR1_an9CnQ

Neocons -Nuland and Geoffrey Pyatt in Kiev's Maidan Square

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVs2tcSyyuA

Nuland - intercepted phone call hand picking the post coop Junta leaders.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CL_GShyGv3o

US Support of Banderist Neo-Nazis in Ukraine 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-RyOaFwcEw 

 

 

nardami's picture

You forgot the zionazi attacks in Korsun on the busloads (8) of Crimeans returning where they beat,burned, "dissappeared", and murdered the anti-Maidan protesters which drew the serious attention of the Crimeans, and the the Odessa Trade House Massacre which removed any doubts as to what the fate of Russian-Ukranians in Crimea would face.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CP8QhKddKNE

jjtech's picture

Yeah - Ukraine conflict of course will remain unresolved until US (who prepared, instigated and supported the coup against democratically elected govt. of Ukraine) stops pumping support fo Ukrainian fascist in Kiev shelling eastern parts of the country.,. Putin is unusually restrained in this matter... It's one of those issues where everyone involved knows exactly what is happening but no one will say anything because turth would be to "uncomortable" and "politically incorrect"...

I'm wondering why none of the sites supporting Trump don't mention ANYTHING about Trump demands from Russia to return Crimea to the fascist junta in Ukraine (which will NEVER happen).

My hopes that Trump will actually change anything for the better are diminishing with every stupid demand Trump makes.

His will to persecute whistleblowers and apparent lack of understanding of what's going on in the Middle East and Ukraine, sanctions against Iran, plans to build embassy in Jerusalem, his slapping medal on Saudi henchmen (literally - e medal to Saudis for fight against terrorism, whereas everyone who has more than 2 brain cells knows that Saudis are precisely the guys who bank roll and arm ISIS!).

The only thing Trump achieved is get us closer to the WWIII (by increasing tensions between US and Iran)...

Trump wants to "fight terrorism" by sponsoring it.

All difference between him and Clinton seem to be his stance on abortion and maybe gay marriage....

DeeZ_nutZ's picture

I TOTALLY BELIEVE EVERY WORD THAT COMRADE MOLOTOV, I MEAN LAVROV IS SAYING!

 

nardami's picture

Meh...like the US hasn't interferred with anybody's bidness...excepting these 50-some countries (and the list is growing)

http://theduran.com/the-list-of-foreign-governments-overthrown-by-the-us-and-cia-is-massive/

barysenter's picture

I appreciate the stoicism of Russians when they say things like this without cracking up.

Duc888's picture

 

 

Trump needs to let Crimea go, seriously.  Re:Ukraine he's probably playing tough guy now but is looking for a political way out to save face.

jjtech's picture

He'd have to be super-dumb to even have a shadow of belief Russia will ever return Crimea without a war....

Trump just seems to say stuff wihtout regard of the consequences, and the consequences of his demands for Russia to return Crimea to Ukraine can be grave for those being killed in Donetsk everyday. This statement might only embolden fascist junta from Kiev to increase shelling of the Eastern Ukraine

kommissar's picture

crimea has been part of russia for hundreds of years.  i work with a dutch company, and the owner of that company and i agreed on that back when this all happened.  the europeans KNOW this, but persist regardless.  

the ussr spun it off in the 50's as a practical, adminstrative matter, without much thought.  

exartizo's picture

Dear Mr. Lavrov,

Ok. I've got to call Bullshit on that one.

Sincerely,

A ZH Reader

quax's picture

C'mon you are undermining ZH's revenue sources. The Kremlin expects better results. 

SharkBit's picture

Nice to see Tillerson on the job.  Now let's get to work.