MSM Touts New Poll Showing "Record" Obamacare Support; Ignores 14-Point Dem "Oversample"

Tyler Durden's picture

Throughout the day the mainstream media will undoubtedly be "informing" you about a new poll from the PewResearchCenter (PRC) that concludes that support for Obamacare has surged to new record highs in recent months just as Republicans in Congress get set to repeal and replace the legislation, how convenient.

We, on the other hand, would like to inform you that, in reality, there is no "news" to be reported as a result of PRC's latest work, but rather just another "rigged" poll that utilized an aggressive 14.4-point Democrat "oversample" to goal seek a desired result.  But don't take our word for it, here is the sampling data as presented by PRC:

Pew

Somehow we suspect that if Democrats really enjoyed a 14.4-point advantage among registered voters that Donald Trump would not be occupying the White House right now...but maybe the Russians are just that good.

But, if the sampling data above isn't quite egregious enough to convince you of it's "fakeness", below we present to you the survey methodology of PRC's previous Obamacare poll, conducted just two months prior to the current oneNotice that the sampling advantage for Democrat/Lean Dem pool in this poll was 4.7 points lower than the poll above.  And to our 'complete shock', this poll showed Obamacare's approval rating roughly 6-points below the poll above at 48%.  Shocking...less Dems equals less support for Democrat policies. 

Pew

So did the number of registered Democrats surge nearly 5 points in just over 2 months?  Somehow we sincerely doubt that...but it was a very nice try. 

And that's how you engineer trends like this where widely-held historical opinions suddenly 'shift' dramatically in a matter of weeks...except they didn't.

Pew

 

And, even though we find the data to be largely useless due to the obvious sampling bias, here is a quick review of the conclusions drawn by PRC which will frequently be drilled into your head by the likes of CNN, MSNBC, NBC, ABC....throughout the day.

Apparently a  record-high 54% of voters now suddenly approve Obamacare even though PRC's own historical polling data shows that a plurality of voters have pretty much always disapproved of the legislation since it's passage in 2010.

Currently, 54% approve of the health care law passed seven years ago by Barack Obama and Congress, while 43% disapprove, according to a national Pew Research Center survey conducted Feb. 7-12 among 1,503 adults.

 

Throughout the law’s history, opinions about the Affordable Care Act have tended to be more negative than positive — or, less frequently, divided. As recently as December, about as many approved (48%) as disapproved (47%) of the law.

 

The new survey finds that when those who disapprove of the law are asked about what should happen to it now, more want GOP congressional leaders to focus their efforts on modifying the law than on getting rid of it. One-in-four adults want Republican leaders to modify the law, while 17% want them to get rid of it entirely.

PEw

 

Meanwhile, approval among "Independents" also surged in PRC's latest poll even though we prove above that the "surge" is easily explained by the "oversample" of "Independents" that "lean Democrat."  Nice try, but nobody's buying it.

Pew

 

Fake News!

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froze25's picture

LOL, yeah just like how people trust the MSM. They really think people still buy their bull shit?

In case you missed it. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-23/okeefe-drops-bombshell-undercov...

JRobby's picture

Health Insurers not ready to swithch to methadone yet?

"They just love that nice pure GOVT H"

VinceFostersGhost's picture

 

 

Oh yeah......I've got cheap insurance......but the deductible is so high I can't use it.

 

Thanks Obama........thanks Boehner..........thanks Ryan!!!

TeamDepends's picture

Can't wait until going to the doctor is like visiting the DMV, because government makes the sun come up.

FireBrander's picture

It is a MISTAKE to waste time and political capital to "repeal and replace".

Remove the ACA's mandate and reinstate low price "catastrophe plan" options, but leave the ACA intact for now.

FOCUS on the ROOT OF THE PROBLEM > COSTS ARE TOO DAMN HIGH!

BUST THE MONOPOLIES and PRICE FIXING BASTARDS and WATCH PRICES FALL DRAMATICALLY.

Then you can repeal everything and replace it with nothing because people will be able to afford it all on their own.

 

 

chunga's picture

Attacking waste, cronyism, and pure fraud is like the third rail for swamp creatures. There's just no going there.

There's picture

Busting monopolies is not in the best interest of the Billionaire Club.

JRobby's picture

Ummmmm, they paid for the poll and paid MSM to air it.

Try to keep up.

LawsofPhysics's picture

War is Peace

Ignorance is Strength

Freedom is Slavery

(and Big Brother knows that Knowledge is Power)

that is all.

 

chunga's picture

Who gives a fuck about fake polls? We know they're fake already.

What isn't fake is the Red Team frauds, who've got nothing and who absolutely suck. The only thing worse than the Red Team is the Blue Team, and from their deeds, it's very hard to tell them apart.

LawsofPhysics's picture

They are owned by the same families!!!  that's the fucking point.

chunga's picture

Hope for the maverick, non-politician who is gonna "make america great again" is fading fast. Instead of tweeting out about CNN and fake news he might try tweeting about fake politicians who supposedly on the same team who are sitting on their dicks, for example Jason "subpoenas are not suggestions" Chaffetz.

The very first thing out of Sessions yesterday had absolutely nothing to do with draining the swamp. These people are tone deaf to liberty, they don't care. They aren't going after Hillary and her life of crime, or Creamer, or Wasserman, or Lynch, or any of the DC cronies.

They are privatizing prisons for profit??? I'm just about done.

VWAndy's picture

 That so many cannot see that one clearly demonstraightable fact bends my noodle. Its like some magic trick they fall for every four years.

Jim in MN's picture

https://anticap.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/how-to-lie-with-statistics.jpg

 

"How To Lie With Statistics"

 

The image is of the edition that I have owned for 30 years or so.   Well worth the short, clear read.

NoWayJose's picture

Obamacare is a give-a-way program to subsidize healthcare for unemployed or under employed, low income individuals, with pre-existing conditions. It is paid for by higher prices for anyone else who has to buy insurance.

It is also a program to allow the government to define what a healthcare plan should contain and. Over.

drendebe10's picture

Fuk obamascare, fuk the corrupt elected political turds who passed it, fuk the corrupt elected political turds who wont repeal it ten times & fuk all the do nothing gubmint bureaucratic turds. Fukemall

FireBrander's picture

BULLSHIT!

The people you list didn't write "ObamaCare" and they likely didn't spend a single penny lobbying in DC to "shape" and "Pass" the legislation.

CORPORATE AMERICA WROTE "OBAMACARE"!

~~~~~~

The "Health Industry" had reached a wall:

1. People said "FUCK IT" and went without insurance.

2. People that needed insurance, couldn't afford to pay the price increases necessary to keep "Corporate Profits" rising.

So, CORPORATE AMERICA lobbies for, and gets passed, THE ACA which FORCES you to buy insurance...and if you truly can't pay, IT FORCES THE GOVERNMENT TO BUY IT FOR YOU!

~~~~~

OBAMACARE IS A "GIVE-A-WAY" TO COROPORATE AMERICA!

Davidduke2000's picture

Eventually the US will have a universal healthcare system like it or not, the difference it will be run by private non profit interests to be well managed.

FireBrander's picture

Eventually, the US will have a non-functional Health Care System because it will collapse under it's own greed...then we'll have something else..."single payer", "free market", "whatever"...we'll see.

dlfield's picture

Obviously the oversample, but also Trump already did away with that oppressive mandate.  ?

small axe's picture

these days polls are designed to tell us what we should think, not what we do think.

Kayman's picture

MSM polls confim the MSM is a lying pack of propaganda shit. 

Any statistician knows if you ask the right question to the right group of people you will get the answer you are looking for.

ToSoft4Truth's picture

Why should a healthy person be forced to pay for a sickly neighbor? 

 

End all these "insurance" schemes. 

 

 

Intelligence_Insulter's picture

Dems and liberals are dumb as fuck but what really worries me the most about obamacare is the rhinos and old establishment coming out defending it. 

Premiums skyrocket it fucks and taxes people mandatorily...but yet both parties support it and the media comes out with all these polls showing how everybody loves it.....hmmmm.....

 

gregga777's picture

Ho hum. Just more lies as usual from the failed CONporate Mainstream FAKE NEWS Media (CMSFNM). ROTFLMAO (rolling on the floor laughing my a** off).

Long memory man's picture

They have not failed yet,  many many months to go before this ends and President Trump may not win, I hope he does. This will be a true test of his metal, I think he has it, needs to keep cool and statesman like, the snowflakes will blow up in the end.

 

 

Dead Indiana Sky's picture

Or better yet....a true test of his mettle.

World-Gone-Mad's picture

Even if this were true - NOT - it is terrible legislation and unconstitutional. REPEAL & REPLACE.

 

It's probably an exit poll from the illegal aliens.

gregga777's picture

The Dimmo-Marxist and Repussican political parasites support Bucking Ofamacare because they get massive bribes from the pharmaceutical and sick-maintenance CCC (Criminal crony capitalists) CONporations.

hooligan2009's picture

this type of polling is sickening in its stupidity and crassness

the fundamental question being asked - and hidden in the stupid questioning - is to take a sample of those who are on benefits and ask them:

"do you agree that someone else should pay for your health care?"

much like a question that asks a poor person:

"if someone offered you one thousand dollars, would you take it?"

of course the last question could be qualified with "even if it meant the other person would not be able to feed or buy clothes for their children for three months"

we are beyond oversampling by political persuasion, the MSM is now oversampling by income bracket and asking beneficiaries of a corrupt system that benefits those sampled, to answer a question objectively.

watch out for more samples of this imcome demographic type - the samples are wholly biased to create the only possible ratinal answer from those benefitting from a handout from others.

Kido's picture

In case you missed it, http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/24/politics/pew-survey-obamacare-support-reco..., posted at 9:45am EST

Note: not in any point in the article mentions the sampling bias

RandomAnglican's picture

I don't call it the DemocRAT News Media for nothing.

tttan's picture

fakes news and faked polls go hand in hand

MrGalt's picture

Very, very, very fake news.

VWAndy's picture

 Can we do a poll using just employed folks and see how it sits with the ones paying for it?  Im thinkin those #s wont be as nice.

 Just guessing they took the poll during working hours. That might be why Ds were so well represented.

stant's picture

Keep digging that hole fake news. The bulldozers coming

Long memory man's picture

MSN ? what is that? anyone still take it seriously?

Barney08's picture

Liars figure but figures don't lie.

Insurrexion's picture

Bullshit.

 

Sue the Media.

Make them prove their story is true.

Make them prove their sources.

SRV's picture

Been back and forth with Quinnipiac this week on their President Approval rigged poll.

The Methodology Report shows a sample split of 35/26 for Dems, but the reply from the Director of the program explained it's a random result, as their advanced model demographics assure accuracy and the Party Affiliation is just a random result reported by those sampled (they do not "select" a specific sample split).

Well, thank goodness for an honest pollster... so I go to the last Q pol (they don't do them often, Gallup is the villain there as they're always low, 40% Fav, and report often, keeping the Avg down, although most of the presstitutes just ignore that and use the lower 40%) report and guess what I find... the same 35/26 split!

So... two identical results in a supposedly random sample factor... DID NOT HAPPEN.

Sent the bad news to the Director last night and waiting for the BS reply... there is NOTHING that is not compromised by these pigs!

But, at least they answered... as I said, Gallup is the real villain with consistent 40% Fav results coming out most days that skew the Real Clear Average. They don't even publish the sample split, and to date have not replied to emails... wonder why?

Oh, and Rasmusen comes out as often as Gallup with 50% Fav results that are just ignored by the media... and even more egregious is, even though the 40/50 gap has been there since Jan 20 I've never heard a word about trying to understand why or how... they just report the lower Gallup/CBS/NBC numbers since they no longer pretend to be impartial.

dizzyfingers's picture

Since MSM is FAKE NEWS, why report its prattlings?

skunzie's picture

Christmas, the MSM just doing the same old bullshit just like they did with their fake polling numbers showing Hitlary with a 95% chance of winning the Presidency.  I believe the exact opposite of this article.

moneybots's picture

"rigged" poll that utilized an aggressive 14.4-point Democrat "oversample"

 

Fake Polling to go along with Fake News.

All they are doing is preaching to their fake choir.

SRV's picture

Grossly under reported fact...

We have slayed the Corporate Media Fake News meme... it is dead and has been turned into a scathing rebuke of the professional liar class!

A beautiful thing.

Jack's Raging Bile Duct's picture

One thing nobody seems to want to admit, is that there are more people associated with the democratic party in the USA than the republican party. This is not necessarily an "over sample", despite that deception having been used in the past.

whatisthat's picture

Get real folks this is an Obama Tax extortion put into effect by the Congress and Insurance Companies which promises subpar "healthcare" coverage and clinical practice.....the unAffordable Care-Tax Act is a scam from a number of perspectives and scope, it is so bad the majority of Insurance Companies are working to "not participate" and will leave the American taxpayers holding the debt.

ThunderStruck's picture

If it's so popular then let them keep it, along with the triple digit premium increases and the outrageous deductibles. Just keep it the fuck away from me...