What First Amendment? Arizona Wants Power To Seize The Assets Of Protesters

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Submitted by James Holbrooks via TheAntiMedia.org,

If Republicans in Arizona’s senate have their way, police in that state could soon have the power to seize assets and property from protesters, the Arizona Capitol Times reports.

From a February 22 article:

“Claiming people are being paid to riot, Republican state senators voted Wednesday to give police new power to arrest anyone who is involved in a peaceful demonstration that may turn bad — even before anything actually happened.

 

“SB1142 expands the state’s racketeering laws, now aimed at organized crime, to also include rioting. And it redefines what constitutes rioting to include actions that result in damage to the property of others.

 

“But the real heart of the legislation is what Democrats say is the guilt by association — and giving the government the right to criminally prosecute and seize the assets of everyone who planned a protest and everyone who participated.”

Essentially, under this bill cops could arrest anyone at a demonstration that suddenly turns violent, however peaceful it might’ve started. They would even be able to target people who had nothing to do the property damage.

Stephen Lemons, writing for the Phoenix New Times, covered a hearing on S.B. 1142 by Arizona’s Senate Judiciary Committee last week.

Highlighting that certain senate Democrats “noted the obvious: that public protests often involve different groups with varying tactics,” he pointed out that, hypothetically, peaceful protesters could be held responsible “for the violent actions of a different faction or of individuals who act out while others remain calm.”

But it gets even worse than that, as the Arizona Capitol Times pointed out Wednesday: “By including rioting in racketeering laws, it actually permits police to arrest those who are planning events.”

Planning events. Meaning cops will have the authority to investigate activists before the demonstrations even take place.

This is what Republican state senator Sonny Borrelli, the author of S.B. 1142, called targeting “the money source” in his defense of the bill before the committee meeting last week.

Citing the conservative notion that a legion of privately funded progressive protesters is clogging up governmental works all over the country, Borrelli said the law would go after those “paid to go out and create this damage.”

And if it takes cops infiltrating political groups on the taxpayers’ dime — on the razor-thin pretext of maybe preventing a potentially violent demonstration down the road — so be it, at least according to Republican attitudes in Arizona.

“I should certainly hope that our law enforcement people have some undercover people there,” state senator John Kavanagh said, referring to police authority under S.B. 1142 to investigate political demonstrations while in the planning stages.

 

“Wouldn’t you rather stop a riot before it starts?” he also said.

Again, potential riot.

The bigger issue at play, as noted by the Arizona Capitol Times, is the chilling effect such legislation would have on free speech. After all, if a person could get arrested for simply participating in a political demonstration — regardless of their own peaceful motives and actions — that person might decline to get involved.

S.B. 1142 would actively enforce the notion of guilt by association. If would punish the innocent who are wishing only to exercise their right of free expression, all because of the actions of criminals.

Such legislation would further complicate an environment of political unrest, made of both positive and negative forces, as State Senator Martin Quezada, Democrat out of Phoenix, highlighted Wednesday:

“When people want to express themselves as a group during a time of turmoil, during a time of controversy, during a time of high emotions, that’s exactly when people gather as a community. Sometimes they yell, sometimes they scream, sometimes they go too far.”

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Croesus's picture

Great...so when does "Civil Forfeiture Law" get applied for "suspicion of rioting"?

Smooth move, Traitors.

This shit-show can't collapse fast enough.

"Wake up homeless, in the land their fathers conquered."

The Saint's picture
The Saint (not verified) Croesus Feb 25, 2017 10:36 PM

They may pass the law but it will be challenged and thrown out by the courts.  I don't see this standing.

 

Richard Chesler's picture

But only if they're identified as Libturd Terrorists.

 

tmosley's picture

Organized crime must be stopped. Prove they are members of any antifa group, and I don't care if you immediately execute them. Communists don't have rights because they don't respect anyone else's rights. Same as animals.

xythras's picture
xythras (not verified) tmosley Feb 25, 2017 11:16 PM

This proves that (civil) war might even be good for the economy

Is War Good For the Economy? Well Not Always!

http://dailywesterner.com/news/2017-02-25/is-war-good-for-the-economy-we...

If they can nail Soros with this law and pluck all assets from him, I am for it

LetThemEatRand's picture

Putting aside that you are incessantly shilling your blog and constantly upvoting yourself with your own accounts (don't think some of us haven't noticed), there are already more laws on the books than you can count if Soros is doing what this law would address.  There's treason, inciting violence, conspiracy to commit violence, RICO, and many more.

This proposed law is a direct assault on the First Amendment and is one of the most dangerous examples I've ever seen of the police state encroaching on individual liberty in the name of freedom.  Why would you think the same government that does not enforce the other laws against Soros would enforce this one against him?  Why is it not obvious to you that it is intended for other purposes?

Khan Bucklin's picture

Thank you. Faith in humanity restored for a few minutes at least.

PT's picture

Has anyone looked at Arizona's balance sheet?  I'm guessing you could look at incomes and expenditures of the different states and from there work out which states will try to introduce similar laws next.  Anyone got some free time on their hands?

DownWithYogaPants's picture

How about investigating the people funding the rent-a-mobs?????

Would that not make much more sense?  

QuantumEasing's picture

Yes. It would.

Which is why it will never happen.

Since when has logic and government ever been a thing?

The leftists that are protesting because their authoritarian mistress was slapped down do not see the second and third order effects that their actions are causing.

They are not even pawns, since they would be hard-pressed to explain the rules of checkers. Their rallying cry is "Muh feelz!" and their end goal is the endorphin rush of instant gratification. Because they "stood up for Social Justice."

Useful idiots, expendable retards, being set up as the crumple-zones to protect the real perpetrators when the hard-stop happens.

PT's picture

You can do that too.  I see no reason to be mutally exclusive.

Khan Bucklin's picture

ZH doesn't disappoint. Took less than 2 minutes to read the dumbest thing I've seen all day. Soros. Lol.

rehypothecator's picture

But, selective enforcement is a tool of tyranny itself.  If a law "should" only be enforced against a certain subset of the population (e.g. communists), it's a bad law and should be repealed.  Because you can't be sure that it will only and always be enforced against your desired target group - it may become enforced against a friendly group - or against you, personally.

UmbilicalMosqueSweeper's picture

The only good Red is a DEAD Red!

Arnold's picture

Lots of selective memory forgotten.

Joe McCarthy was right.

 

http://www.aim.org/media-monitor/joe-mccarthy-was-right/

http://josephmccarthywasright.com/

http://theothermccain.com/2013/02/24/never-forget-joe-mccarthy-was-right/

 

However, evidence before the committee showed that Lattimore had supported Soviet policy at every turn, even declaring that the Stalin purge trials in Russia, "sound like democracy to me." With then-Vice President Henry Wallace in Russia, Lattimore compared concentration camps to the Tennessee Valley Authority, and later urged Washington to abandon China to communism and to withdraw from Japan and Korea.

http://www.rense.com/politics6/mc.htm

338's picture

Organized crime must be stopped.

 

I couldn't agree more, any government I look at anymore is nothing but a power hungry, force based system of theft and slavery, where you get to vote every few years for a new plantation owner to hold your leash.

 

I'm stuck in Arizona under the nazi fucks, I wish them all a wonderful bout of colio'rectal cancer.

 

S

markpower49's picture

The Left must be destroyed by any means. They are traitorous filth. They deserve to be ovened.

Teja's picture

Which means, everyone politically left relative to you? Maybe easier if you move to a lonely island in the Pacific.

Mr. Universe's picture

It's not so much politics but plain stupidity that has me yearning for a spot under a coconut tree. Of course the moment I get settled in I'll get bonked on the head by a coconut. There is no justice in this world, only the signal.

Nehweh Gahnin's picture

I can see you need a punch in the face, fascist pig.

t.whiteguy's picture

If you communists understood the concept of "peaceably protest"
then this wouldn't be on the table. Unfortunately for the rest of us you feel it's your right to cause destruction and violence in order to make a point.. no doubt because you lack the intelligence to construct an argument well enough to win over the minds of rational, intelligent people.

tough shit
people like you made your bed and now you get to sleep in it

nite nite

gearbaby's picture

tmosley ... you're a fascist moron

AtATrESICI's picture

“I should certainly hope that our law enforcement people have some undercover people there,” state senator John Kavanagh said, referring to police authority under S.B. 1142 to investigate political demonstrations while in the planning stages."

If security forces are involved in the protest they should be locked up first and all of their assets forfeited along with all who vote positively on S.B. 1142.

French Bloke's picture

Libturd terrorist already Identified. SOROS. Freeze all his accounts and see the riots diminish.

True Blue's picture

I never would have thought 'Civil Asset Forfeiture' or random roadside checkpoints, or ZeroCare would have made it through the courts as all three obviously violate the plain meaning of the Constitution; but in this world of extreme bias and blossoming stupidity, nothing surprises me anymore.

nmewn's picture

lol...why, its almost as if they knew beforehand they could use the tax code to target any individual or group on ever-changing political whims and the Patriot Act to create another vast agency that targets us all while ObamaCare gets to go after the "young & healthy".

I'm telling you people, there are bureaucratz inside state & federal governments (paid for by us) whose entire days are filled with crafting "new & exciting ways" to GROW government at all levels consisting of dreamz they had the night before.

They look at this as "job security", we of course don't.

People need to understand the self serving nature of these weasels or its never going to get better but before we correct it, really, as a matter of my own self interest...

The 2017 Revenge & Retribution Tour must roll on ;-)

LN's picture

You were thing about rioting, I know you were, and that's enough.

We need more laws like we need additional holes in our heads, or maybe we do...

LN

847328_3527's picture

Ditto. If one of these black-masked soros thugs comes at me I don't want the police to get in my way. The pussies might get hurt if they are anything like those San Francisco Pussy Patrolmen who stood by sipping their Starbucks in the student union bldg while the thugs beat people up outside.

CoastalCowboy's picture

Where I live the black masked Soros thugs would not dare make an appearance  They'd be gunned down. Therefore, you never see them here.  Obviously, they don't really believe in their cause if they are no willing to die for it.

Treat them exactly like every other domestic terrorist is treated.  I seem to recall the Left saying patrotic Americans were the terrorists yet another case of projection.

Arnold's picture

I "felt" threatened, so I shot the pigfucker.

Croesus's picture

The fact that "Laws" like this are even suggested (& in some cases, passed), would have brought out the torches and pitchforks, during America's infancy.

Politicians need to be reigned-in, on penalty of death.

Until these assholes start living with a healthy amount of fear, it will just be "forward, Soviet", inch by inch.

LN's picture

"Politicians need to be reigned-in, on penalty of death."

We should skip the formalities, and go straight to the death part.  The situation would become self-correcting in short order.

LN

nightwish's picture

Extreme leftists causing extreme pushback. Great job Soros, and other liberal agitating mother fuckers.

tmosley's picture

These laws ARE the torches and pitchforks.

LetThemEatRand's picture

That's rich.  The government taking by force the liberties and property of individuals who organized a protest is equivalent in your mind to "torches and pitchforks."  War is peace and slavery is freedom.

political_proxy's picture

"The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws."

 -Tacitus

some things never change

steve2241's picture

Two laws repealed for every law passed.

TwelveOhOne's picture

Yeah, like Thunderdome: two laws enter, one law leaves!

ThanksChump's picture

President Camacho approves!

 

Drink Brawndo.

UmbilicalMosqueSweeper's picture

More like two hundred laws repealed for every law passed...and ALL unconstitutional "laws" IMMEDIATELY repealed!

AtATrESICI's picture

This is not a good thing...It will be used in ways not yet thought of to fuck over those who speak out even in the smallest ways.

847328_3527's picture

I think it might be brilliant. Connect the dots to soros or the Clinton krime Family and you might be able to seize millions if not hundreds of millions.

UmbilicalMosqueSweeper's picture

Civil asset forfeiture does have a place. It should be vigorously applied to all of the racketeers in law "enforcement" and Congress.

MasterControl's picture

When you wear masks and destroy property while taking money from a hostile foreign enteties you are an enemy of the republic.  Take all their shit and kick them out of the country.

claytonmoore50's picture

There are two political partys.

The evil one, and the stupid one.

This just shows how stupid the Republicans are

dark fiber's picture

This is probably in direct response to the recent series of SJW rioting across the country.  In which case I cannot really object.  They are not protesters they are organized rioters commuting violent criminal acts.  They are insurgents and they should be treated accordingly, along with those who fund and organize them.