France: Deradicalization Of Jihadists A "Total Fiasco"

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Via Soeren Kern of The Gatestone Institute,

  • The report implies that deradicalization, either in specialized centers or in prisons, does not work because most Islamic radicals do not want to be deradicalized.
  • Although France is home to an estimated 8,250 hardcore Islamic radicals, only 17 submitted applications and just nine arrived. Not a single resident has completed the full ten-month curriculum.
  • By housing Islamists in separate prison wings, they actually had become more violent because they were emboldened by "the group effect," according to Justice Minister Jean-Jacques Urvoas.
  • "Deradicalizing someone does not happen in six months. These people, who have not been given an ideal and who have clung to Islamic State's ideology, are not going to get rid of it just like that. There is no 'Open Sesame.'" — Senator Esther Benbassa.
  • "The deradicalization program is a total fiasco. Everything must be rethought, everything must be redesigned from scratch." — Senator Philippe Bas, the head of the Senate committee that commissioned the report.

The French government's flagship program to deradicalize jihadists is a "total failure" and must be "completely reconceptualized," according to the initial conclusions of a parliamentary fact-finding commission on deradicalization.

The preliminary report reveals that the government has nothing to show for the tens of millions of taxpayer euros it has spent over the past several years to combat Islamic radicalization in France, where 238 people have been killed in jihadist attacks since January 2015. The report implies that deradicalization, either in specialized centers or in prisons, does not work because most Islamic radicals do not want to be deradicalized.

The report, "Deindoctrination, Derecruitment and Reintegration of Jihadists in France and Europe" (Désendoctrinement, désembrigadement et réinsertion des djihadistes en France et en Europe) — the title avoids using the word "deradicalization" because it is considered by some to be politically incorrect — was presented to the Senate Committee on Constitutional and Legal Affairs on February 22.

The report is the preliminary version of a comprehensive study currently being conducted by a cross-party task force charged with evaluating the effectiveness of the government's deradicalization efforts. The final report is due in July.

Much of the criticism focuses on a €40 million ($42 million) plan to build 13 deradicalization centers — known as Centers for Prevention, Integration and Citizenship (Centre de prévention, d'insertion et de citoyenneté, CPIC) — one in each of France's metropolitan regions, aimed at deradicalizing would-be jihadists.

The original plan, which was unveiled with great fanfare in May 2016, called for each center to host a maximum of 25 individuals, aged 18 to 30, for periods of ten months. The government said that 3,600 radicalized individuals would enter these deradicalization centers during the next two years.

The government's first — and, until now, only — deradicalization center, housed in the Château de Pontourny, an isolated 18th-century manor in central France, opened in September 2016.

When Senators Esther Benbassa and Catherine Troendlé, both of whom are leading the task force, visited Pontourny on February 3, they found only one resident at the facility. That individual has since been imprisoned for committing "acts of domestic violence."

After just five months of operation, Pontourny is now empty, even though it employs 27 people, including five psychologists, a psychiatrist and nine educators, at an annual cost of €2.5 million ($2.6 million).


The Château de Pontourny "Center for Prevention, Integration and Citizenship," in France. (Image source: 28 minutes - ARTE video screenshot)

Although France is home to an estimated 8,250 hardcore Islamic radicals, only 59 people have inquired about going to Pontourny since its opening. Of those, only 17 submitted applications and just nine arrived. Not a single resident has completed the full ten-month curriculum.

One of the residents was a 24-year-old jihadist named Mustafa S., who was arrested during a counter-terrorism operation near Strasbourg on January 20, 2017. Police said he has links to one of the authors of the November 2015 jihadist attack on the Bataclan Theater in Paris. Mustafa S. was arrested while on leave from Pontourny: He was allegedly on his way to join the Islamic State in Syria.

Another one of the residents of Pontourny was a 24-year-old pregnant woman named Sabrina C., who lived in the facility from September 19 to December 15. She revealed to a local newspaper that she has never been radicalized but took advantage of Pontourny to escape her "family cocoon" and get some "fresh air":

"At no time did I feel interested in any religion whatsoever. My family is Catholic, non-practicing, we go to church from time to time, but no more. My boyfriend wanted me to wear the headscarf, but I always refused."

Sabrina's mother said the deradicalization facility "was an opportunity for our daughter to attend vocational training, to learn cooking, to be near the animals." Sabrina added that her stay there was a nightmare: "I wept every night, I did not feel in my place. In Pontourny, they treated me like a criminal." She speculated that the only reason she was allowed into the facility was because the government needed "to make the numbers."

The government has also failed in its efforts to stamp out Islamic radicalization in French prisons. In October 2016, the government reversed a policy to house radicalized prisoners in separate units after an increase in attacks on prison guards.

The original idea was to isolate Islamists to keep them from radicalizing other inmates, but Justice Minister Jean-Jacques Urvoas admitted that by housing them in separate prison wings, the Islamists actually had become more violent because they were emboldened by what he called "the group effect."

The report also denounced the emergence of a "deradicalization industry" in which associations and non-governmental organizations with no experience in deradicalization have been awarded lucrative government contracts. "Several associations, seeking public funding in times of fiscal shortage, turned to the deradicalization sector without any real experience," according to Senator Benbassa.

Benbassa said that the government's deradicalization program was ill-conceived and rushed for political reasons amid a growing jihadist threat. "The government was in panic as a result of the jihadist attacks," she said. "It was the panic that guided its actions. Political time was short, it was necessary to reassure the general public."

French-Iranian Sociologist Farhad Khosrokhavar, an expert in radicalization, told France 24 that the government's only option for dealing with hardcore jihadists is to lock them up:

"Some people can be deradicalized, but not everyone. It's impossible with the hardcore jihadists, those who are totally convinced. These types of profiles are very dangerous and represent about 10% to 15% of those who have been radicalized. Prison might be one of the only ways of dealing with these die-hard believers."

In an interview with L'Obs, Benbassa said the government has also failed to address prevention:

"Young candidates for jihadism must be socialized. We must teach them a profession, professionalize them and offer them an individualized follow-up. This involves the help of the family, imams, local police officers, educators, psychologists and business leaders, who can also intervene....

"I also think that our political leaders should adopt a little sobriety and humility when approaching this complex phenomenon. The task is extremely difficult. 'Deradicalizing' someone does not happen in six months. These people, who have not been given an ideal and who have clung to Islamic State's ideology, are not going to get rid of it just like that. There is no 'Open Sesame.'"

Senator Philippe Bas, the head of the Senate committee that commissioned the report, described the government's deradicalization program this way: "It is a total fiasco. Everything must be rethought, everything must be redesigned from scratch."

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gespiri's picture

Oh....this is just too FUNNY~~!!!

Put lipstick on pigs and they're still gonna be pigs.  Just "neutralize" all of 'em and feed the goats they raped for revenge.

thunderchief's picture

There is only one good way to de raddicalise those sons of bitches.

Send them home or kill them trying. 

bh2's picture

There is no obligation to "fix" these people. Much easer, cheaper, and more certainly successful to deport than to deradicalize them.

jeff montanye's picture

that of course makes more sense.  these "programs" seem put together by the same geniuses that designed the moderate rebels training operations in syria.  all fools.

ersatz007's picture

No wonder it's not working.  There is no such thing as radical Islam - remember?

jus_lite_reading's picture

Allow me to say, NO SHIT SHERLOCK.

Swamp Yankee's picture

See "Dehydrating water".

south40_dreams's picture
Deradicalization Of Jihadists = Guillotine!
DirkDiggler11's picture

The program should be re-named "EXECUTION"

halcyon's picture

Easy to de-radicalize:

1. Close down all wahabist mosques

2. Separate the groups of people from each other

3. Give the jihadists free booze, drugs, video games, unlimited hbo/netflix, fast food, football season tickets and titty bars

4. Make them work for pay - no social hand-outs.

Works every time: bread and circus (+ diversion + dispersion + debt slavery).

It works with Asians, with Africans, with caucasians, why wouldn't it work on persians and arabs?

 

 

SpanishGoop's picture

"to build 13 deradicalization centers — known as Centers for Prevention, Integration and Citizenship (Centre de prévention, d'insertion et de citoyenneté, CPIC)"

With showers and central heating ?

 

RovingGrokster's picture

Resorts for Jihadis - kind of like Club Gitmo!

DosZap's picture

Send FRANCE Sheriff Joe Arpaio from AZ, fame's, "GUIDE FOR IMPRISONMENT".

Outdoor tents colored PINK, inmates uniforms PINK,cots to sleep on,NO central, heat, air, no cable, and work during the days.

Doug Eberhardt's picture

You can't reverse jihad by some feel good mumbo jumbo physco speaking influencer. It is their calling. Maybe introduction to LSD might be better? Or extacy and some trance music? Get em hooked.

tuetenueggel's picture

Drown them in their own shit.

SpanishGoop's picture

They are really helping Le Pen at the moment.

 

Boscovius's picture

They haven't got a clue.

chairman mao's picture

Why in the fucking world would you arrest cunts when they want to leave for Syria, send them on their way!

Madness.

nightwish's picture

Are these EU sympathetic clowns serious? Anything to give these fucks a chance in the name of 'humanitarianism'. Damn J construct.

IranContra's picture

Terrorism is staged, and so is radicalism. The banksters started the Muslim Brotherhood:

Muslim Brotherhood & Khomeini's Iran: Made in Britain.pdf

Terroism Is Made in Britain.pdf

Just notice how many "terrorists" were known to the state.

Yes, a lot of Muslims are radicalized by the banksters, but without state-sponsored logistics and coverups, they are all talk.

Stu Elsample's picture

sorry to say this, frogs...but your muslim problem will not go away until your leftist problem is gone.

Expat's picture

Sorry to say this asshole, but your intelligence problem won't go away until you learn something about French history.  The problem with Muslims in France is a problem caused by the right, not by the left.  If you are talking about radical solutions, then I suppose your notion of a solution would be to kill them all.  Hmm, can I use that same solution on mullet-headed sister fuckers like you?

Stu Elsample's picture

Good lord you're a dumb fuck. During WWII, little faggot traitors like yourself were executed for helping the enemy. That tradition needs so badly to return. Kissing and sucking the muslim savages will not make them like you any more, but deporting them all will guarantee that they will not attack French citizens on French soil....you blithering idiot

Your muslim pals will soon take care of cowards like you (not soon enough). It's a damn shame that you weren't in the path of that semi driven by your muslim terrorist friend....and how many frogs were killed that day??? Thanks to gutless cowards such as yourself, there will be a lot more of that coming.

nmewn's picture

The French Empire(s) 1534-1980 were right wing?

Well, at least they loved marvelous architecture, were patrons of the arts & fine dining, so there's a little the left can still be proud of ;-)

Blanco Diablo's picture

What is it about the ISLAMIC RELIGIOUS RAPE and DESTRUCTION of Europe that you don't understand?  

What is it about the ISLAMIC RELIGIOUS rapes of over over one million British woman and girls (and little
boys) that you can't relate to?  

What is it about the ISLAMIC RELIGIOUS desecration of Sweden and the grievous wounding of Germany and
France that you missed?

What is it about 1,400 years of ISLAMIC RELIGIOUS horror and genocide (800 MILLION slaughtered in India
alone) that isn't sinking in?  

What is it about the fact that NO Muslims are renouncing the ISLAMIC RELIGIOUS directive to KILL ALL NON-
BELIEVERS that you don't get?

What is it about their rock hard ISLAMIC RELIGIOUS position that they will NEVER assimilate into any other
culture that you don't grasp ?

What is it about their ISLAMIC RELIGIOUS immutable goal of putting their brutal, Medieval Sharia Law above
the Constitution that eludes you? 

What is it about this story 'Norway: Oslo Police Declare “We Have Lost the City”…Islam Has Taken Over' that
doesn't register?

Are you living in your underground bunker out on the ranch drinking yourself to oblivion ?  

Or, more likely, are you just doing your Globalist NWO duties and pretending to be so stupid and uninformed?  

just the tip's picture

if you had included in your comment, something along the lines of, "i'll through myself in front of a raghead before i let you kill one" i could get behind your comment and thinking.

BFYTW

man of Wool's picture

Bullshit. France colonised much of North Africa. Arabs/Muslims/Islam is their legacy. Its their heritage.

Take a holiday to Algiers. You wouldn't come out with such dumb comments.

RovingGrokster's picture

Hold on a moment.
The Brits colonized HongKong, India, Singapore, Jamaica...
How many radicalized Chinese restaurant owners? Indian engineers? Jamaican musicians? Etc., etc.,
OK, forgive the sterotypes, but the point is that all are a productive part of British society today, except for the muslims. Pakistanis came, integrated, and worked, just like the Indians, then as they reached critical mass in some areas began to impose Sharia, molest and harass British women, and engage in Jihad.

You can take the boy out of Islamabad, but you can't take Bad Islam out of the boy!

LA_Goldbug's picture

A nice reminder of what integration is all about. Goat herders on average know nothing about hard work hence these poor just love to death countries like Germany or Sweden. Welfare is super there.

just the tip's picture

the french did not colonize northern africa.  the french invaded and conquered northern africa to put an end to the barbary pirates of the day.  and that didn't occur until about 1830.  it worked.  unlike the pussy americans and british, who didn't want to get their delicate hands dirty, and were happy to tolerate islamic terrorism of the day.

but they paid the price by allowing those ragheads that wanted to to assimilate and started a two way street between france and algeria.  they did not assimilate, and generations later paris is little algiers.

dogismycopilot's picture

you know what's going to happen next, right?

The Jihadis will convert the nurses, doctors and staff at this place.

World War Z wasn't just a zombie movie It was a glimpse of how radical islam is an infectous disease.

World War MuZZie.

IranContra's picture

Here's the FBI's experience according to a friend of a friend:

When 9/11 happened, the FBI arrested hundreds of Israelis involved. Chertoff told the FBI to release them and deport them.

Then, Chertoff ordered the FBI to stay out of 9/11 investigation, and stick to prosecuting other Islamic terrorists, so they did.

For years after 9/11, the FBI bugged every mosque, recruited informants, and prosecuted alleged terrorists. No evidence against the accused was found. All cases fizzled on their way to the court. Many embarrassing fiascos.

The fundamentalists in the mosques just talked about the infidels (kind of like the trolls and racists here), but never did anything. The FBI knew those mosques inside out.

However, British intelligence, in collaboration with the CIA, kept sending "radicalized Muslims" into the US, but the FBI caught them. I was personally aware of one such incident.

However, Chretoff "reorganized" the FBI (counter-terrorism agents were furious at that). Years later, this "reorganization" allowed the authorities to stage terrorist acts that were never investigated by the FBI. Three tall white men were seen shooting in San Bernardino, but a short dark girl was accused and shot. The FBI was rigged and ready to support the myth of terrorism.

The issue is not some fundamentalist Muslims. It's the deep state in the US, Britain, France, Belgium, etc. who stages terror acts and uses Muslim patsies.

LA_Goldbug's picture

"The report implies that deradicalization, either in specialized centers or in prisons, does not work because most Islamic radicals do not want to be deradicalized."

No kidding. Who would have guessed. :-(

Fred123's picture

Add a little lead to their diet, it instantly calms down the most insane muslim.

tuetenueggel's picture

Kill them. Thats´s the only way to get rid of them.

CRM114's picture

It's not the only way, but I do not think there are the funds, the time or the expertise to make the psychoanalytical way work for the number of jihadis that there now are.

And more are arriving, and being converted, every day.

IranContra's picture

Trump put Sessions in charge, and good guys in charge of DHS and CIA, it must be impossible to stage a terror act in the US, despite the corruption in the FBI. If they staged a terror act, the FBI and the deep state would now be caught red-handed.

Maybe they can still stage terrorism in Canada... I guess they did, and blamed an innocent Trump supporter for it. How transparent!

just the tip's picture

can't agree with your assessment of the see eye aye.  DCI come and go.  the deep state lives without them.  the lone exception being when bush41 was DCI.  they are compartmentalized for a reason, and with the deep state, it is to prevent meddling by the DCI.

hell, i bet the director of planning for most of these false flags is a six year secretary working in the mail room.  and no, she doesn't have great tits.

tuetenueggel's picture

Marine le Pen will do so after becomming Commander in Chief in may.

Just few more weeks to wait. Fuck all sandniggers and their coalbags.

Vadogga66's picture

LePen is an anti-European putin-driven bitch.

farflungstar's picture

Yes I've heard that repeatedly. Anyone going against the status quo of mass Muslim immigration and silencing people who complain about it is tarred as Putin-driven. Seems a ringing endorsement to me rather than the feminists and faggots pretending to govern individual countries in Europe right now.  

redc1c4's picture

put a 22 short into the base of their skull at an upward angle, and you'll have a 100% cure rate on jihadis.

next problem?

IranContra's picture

Do you realize that you are a radical and you are talking about deradicalization? Go deradicalize your head and your tongue instead.

Canoe Driver's picture

It seems to me that the French are now trying to cure "radicalization," as if it were mental illness. I suppose, if the French people are this stupid, they deserve whatever they get. The subjects of this effort are invaders, an occupying force, a paramiiitary enemy, guerilla cadres, whatever you like. Maybe they are not even very bright. But they are not mentally ill. They simply want to impose their will on the West. All warfare is so.