Ihre Papiere, Bitte!: Are We Being Set Up For A National ID System?

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Via John Whitehead of The Rutherford Institute,

You can’t have it both ways.

You can’t live in a constitutional republic if you allow the government to act like a police state.

You can’t claim to value freedom if you allow the government to operate like a dictatorship.

You can’t expect to have your rights respected if you allow the government to treat whomever it pleases with disrespect and an utter disregard for the rule of law.

If you’re inclined to advance this double standard because you believe you have done nothing wrong and have nothing to hide, beware: there’s always a boomerang effect.

Whatever dangerous practices you allow the government to carry out now - whether it’s in the name of national security or protecting America’s borders or making America great again - rest assured, these same practices can and will be used against you when the government decides to set its sights on you.

Nothing is ever as simple as the government claims it is.

The war on drugs turned out to be a war on the American people, waged with SWAT teams and militarized police.

The war on terror turned out to be a war on the American people, waged with warrantless surveillance and indefinite detention.

The war on immigration will be yet another war on the American people, waged with roving government agents demanding “papers, please.”

So you see, when you talk about empowering government agents to demand identification from anyone they suspect might be an illegal immigrant—the current scheme being entertained by the Trump administration to ferret out and cleanse the country of illegal immigrants—what you’re really talking about is creating a society in which you are required to identify yourself to any government worker who demands it.

Just recently, in fact, passengers arriving in New York’s JFK Airport on a domestic flight from San Francisco were ordered to show their “documents” to border patrol agents in order to get off the plane.

This is how you pave the way for a national identification system.

Americans have always resisted adopting a national ID card for good reason: it gives the government and its agents the ultimate power to target, track and terrorize the populace according to the government’s own nefarious purposes.

National ID card systems have been used before by oppressive governments—in Nazi Germany against the Jews, in South Africa against black citizens, in Rwanda against the Tutsis—in the name of national security, invariably with horrifying results.

In the United States, post-9/11, more than 750 Muslim men were rounded up on the basis of their religion and ethnicity and detained for up to eight months. Their experiences echo those of 120,000 Japanese-Americans who were similarly detained 75 years ago following the attack on Pearl Harbor, a practice the U.S. Supreme Court has yet to declare illegal.

Fast forward to the Trump administration’s war on illegal immigration, and you have the perfect storm necessary for the adoption of a national ID card, the ultimate human tracking device, which would make the police state’s task of monitoring, tracking and singling out individual suspects—citizen and noncitizen alike—far simpler.

A federalized, computerized, cross-referenced, databased system of identification policed by government agents would be the final nail in the coffin for privacy.

Granted, in the absence of a national ID system, “we the people” are already tracked in a myriad of ways. This informational glut—used to great advantage by both the government and corporate sectors—is converging into a mandate for “an internal passport,” a.k.a., a national ID card that would store information as basic as a person’s name, birth date and place of birth, as well as private information, including a Social Security number, fingerprint, retina scan and personal, criminal and financial records.

The Real ID Act, which imposes federal standards on identity documents such as state drivers’ licenses, is the prelude to this national identification system.

At some point, however, it will not matter whether your skin is black or yellow or brown or white. It will not matter whether you’re an immigrant or a citizen. It will not matter whether you’re rich or poor. It won’t even matter whether you’re driving, flying or walking.

Eventually, all that will matter is whether some government agent—poorly trained, utterly ignorant of the Constitution, way too hyped up on the power of their badges, and authorized to detain, search, interrogate, threaten and generally harass anyone they see fit—chooses to single you out for special treatment.

You see, the police state does not discriminate.

It’s a short hop, skip and a jump from allowing government agents to stop and demand identification from someone suspected of being an illegal immigrant to empowering government agents to subject anyone—citizen and noncitizen alike—to increasingly intrusive demands that they prove not only that they are legally in the country, but that they are also lawful, in compliance with every statute and regulation on the books, and not suspected of having committed some crime or other.

It’s no longer a matter of if, but when.

In the case of a national identification system, it might start off as a means of curtailing illegal immigration, but it will end up as a means of controlling the American people.

We have been down this road before.

Reporting on the trial of Nazi bureaucrat Adolf Eichmann for the New Yorker in 1963, Hannah Arendt describes the “submissive meekness with which Jews went to their death”:

arriving on time at the transportation points, walking under their own power to the places of execution, digging their own graves, undressing and making neat piles of their clothing, and lying down side by side to be shot—seemed a telling point, and the prosecutor, asking witness after witness, “Why did you not protest?,” “Why did you board the train?,”


“Fifteen thousand people were standing there and hundreds of guards facing you—why didn’t you revolt and charge and attack these guards?,” harped on it for all it was worth. But the sad truth of the matter is that the point was ill taken, for no non-Jewish group or non-Jewish people had behaved differently.

The lessons of history are clear: chained, shackled and imprisoned in a detention camp, there is little chance of resistance. The time to act is now, before it¹s too late. Indeed, there is power in numbers, but if those numbers will not unite and rise up against their oppressors, there can be no resistance.

As Arendt concludes, “under conditions of terror most people will comply but some people will not, just as the lesson of the countries to which the Final Solution was proposed is that ‘it could happen’ in most places but it did not happen everywhere.”

It does not have to happen here.

As I make clear in my book Battlefield America: The War on the American People, we do not have to condemn ourselves to life under an oppressive, authoritarian regime.

We do not have to become our own jailers.

We do not have to dig our own graves.

We do not have to submit.

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LetThemEatRand's picture

The police state is cool again. Trump won.  Everyone go to sleep.  You are very tired....

crossroaddemon's picture

That is funny, isn't it? I'm watching ZH give trump a pass on shit they'd be howling about if Clinton or Obama were in the WH. It's pathetic and sad.

LetThemEatRand's picture

I do not know what you mean. I am with Trump.  Are you a Hillary supporter?  [Invasion of the body snatchers scream].

crossroaddemon's picture

You said it... the police state is cool again. Trump is coming out more and more as a statist and ZH readers keep defending him.

And no, I don't support Clinton. I think expecting anyone in high political office to do anything for us is stunningly naive.

LetThemEatRand's picture

I think it's a mental illness, crossroad.  Or mass hypnosis.  Maybe people just can't admit they were wrong.  I don't really know what it is, but it tells me there's not much chance of anything ever changing.

WTFRLY's picture

Exactly that, Joo World Order continues to reign

Billy the Poet's picture

Haven't you heard? Trump knocks over tombstones in Jewish cemeteries for kicks.

Four chan's picture

when a large enough percentage of the population are retarded enough to vote

democrat they will be for voter id. until then their fraud is necessary.

Logan 5's picture
Logan 5 (not verified) Four chan Mar 2, 2017 1:37 AM

He turned me into a jewish newt!

PT's picture

It's a ratchet.  You can swing it back and forth but it ain't going backwards.

Erek's picture

The only paper of importance anyone really needs comes on a roll in 3 or 4 ply. It's a great equalizer because it doesn't matter if you are an average Joe or king of the world. Everyone needs it.

prime american's picture
prime american (not verified) Erek Mar 2, 2017 3:58 AM

I'm making over $7k a month working part time. I kept hearing other people tell me how much money they can make online so I decided to look into it. Well, it was all true and has totally changed my life. This is what I do... http://bit.ly/2jdTzrM

Erek's picture

You can make more selling toilet paper.

tmosley's picture

I read the article, and it seems like nothing more than hysterical ranting to me. We've had state issued IDs for a LONG time, but I don't think many people felt like their state governments were authoritarian privacy snatching Nazis. Lots and lots of countries have national IDs. Indeed, ours does already as well, even though it isn't supposed to serve that function. Everyone setting their hair on fire over this needs to first burn their social security cards and passports. Oh, and also your REALID compliant driver's licenses.

Seems like a case of "Trump drinks water, and Hitler drank water, therefore Trump is Hitler!

Lots of libertarians have gone absolutely off the deep end right along with the liberals. It's weird to watch.

aminorex's picture

All the powers which Trump gains today will be used against his supporters when the pendulum swings tomorrow

Killdo's picture

I think it's to do with religion. the more religiously brainwashed to glorify slavery and to think you are nothing and your invisible master is everything, the less likely you are to rebel in any context.

I've noticed in Serbia/Argentina/Japan etc people freely cross roads on red light (if safe to do so ) and policemen don't say anything.

In teh USSA you'll get a ticket, and most people are scared so they stand and waith even though there are no cars. I see that robotic behavior only in teh USA. Also having to cover your drink like a retarded idiot - only in the slavish USA - no other country does that.

Also having to pay tax even though you live abroad 9as a US citizen) - again only the USA enslaves its sheeple like that

and we have the most people in jail

the land of the slave

Oldrepublic's picture

I am not a big fan of Mexico, but down there driving is a pleasure, not having to be constantly worried about the speed limits.Very nice!

Stopping at red lights at nights in optional in many Latin American countries.


PT's picture

I never blamed people for supporting Obama when he got in.  I did blame them for supporting him four years later.
Likewise I don't blame people for supporting Trump, even now that he HAS raised a series of red flags, though sooner or later one of those red flags will be big enough to change that.

It's not mental illness or mass hypnosis.  It's just that the next step involves becoming very uncomfortable.  And people are not yet ready to be that uncomfortable.

VWAndy's picture

 Thats the best part of it. Obama turned out to be just like the guy before him but worse. Its been the trend going on 50 years or more. Trump is going down the exact same path. With a cult of mindless followers eating every lie as gospel. Got there own catch phrase to trigger the ignore reflex and everything will bounce right off. Fake News is the new race card. Just call it fake news and all his peeps will be truth proofed. It worked for Obama for 8 years straight.


PT's picture

So busy defending him from all the lies, they ain't got time to attack him on the truth.  Perhaps the whole point of MSM anti-Trump hysteria - we don't care who you vote for, as long as you ain't calm.

I'm not US so didn't vote for him but I'm still glad he got in.  IF ANY one else had have gotten in then it would be business as usual anyway.  When's the last time a 70 yo non-politician became a President?  When Trump fucks up NO-ONE should be left with any false hope.  But perhaps TPTB don't need the plebs to have any false hope any more.  "Brick wall at the back of the theatre" time.

PT's picture

In sales they teach a very simple card trick in which you appear to get someone else to read your mind.  You pick a card, look at it, don't let the other person see it, start asking questions "Pick red or black", "Pick hearts or diamonds / clubs or spades", "pictures or numbers", "odds or evens" etc
Every step of the way, if the other person picks what is on your card then you say, "Correct" but if they pick the opposite then you say "Correct, and that leaves <the opposite choice> doesn't it?" ... narrowing it down until the other person "chooses" the card you selected.
Sometimes people do not recognize how the trick works, other times they get it quickly.

The point is that this simple trick demonstrates the technique used by clever sales men to narrow things down until customers "choose" what the salesman decided from the beginning.
No prizes for guessing that the same technique is used for "choosing" Presidents. 

Actually, the technique for "choosing" Presidents is much sloppier than that.  For example, in my country I would like to vote for the team that supposedly is on the side of the working man.  The fact is that, since I have been old enough to vote, that team has been openly neglecting the working man while embracing the whims of perverts and thieves.  Needless to say, my vote goes elsewhere.  I would like to vote for the team that acknowledges that the numbers in housing and finance simply do not add up.  These issues are not even acknowledged so they don't even get anywhere near being treated like the card trick.

VWAndy's picture

 Yep it was a false set of choices from the start. You cant outbid the banksters for a stick of gum. To even think you could outbid them for control of the nation? That takes some mental gymnastics.They can spend 85 B$ a month or more to prop up the markets? How much do you think they would be willing to spend on the potus?

IntTheLight's picture

Couldn't one argue we already have a national ID system for anyone in America? Our W2 and 1099s sent to government to track our income. Meanwhile, welfare cheats use our hard earned money and not only don't file returns but live off of us who must submit or have our assets taken.

aminorex's picture

You don't have any money.  It is all owned by the private banks which own the feral reserve system.  You are a slave and own nothing.

HRClinton's picture

"Your papers, please" is so 1900s.

We now have biometrics, stored any number of ways. Your smartphone or even a microchip implant is all the ID we need to keep you safe. 

I expect adoption rates to be the quickest and fastest in those conservative, law-loving areas of Flyover country. You're so #1!

Jein's picture

They've already developed sophisticated facial recognition software and iris scanners. Only a matter of time before these technologies evolve and integrate into society much like minority report. An auto eye/face scan everywhere you go, impossible to avoid.

Idaho potato head's picture

People must refuse or it's Gulag Archipelago all over again. It will be much worse. Do not allow yourself to be disarmed. Liberty is indeed worth dying for.

PT's picture

It's Gulag Archipelago all over again. Your only choice will be how many you can take with you.  And not many will even have that choice.

Idaho potato head's picture

This has been tried before by many governments, especially in recent history. The most notable being the Soviet Union, and red China. It is brutal and cruel and must be stopped before it gains a foothold. Unfortunately, I think it already has in the former USofA and is well on the way.

Elco the Constitutionalist's picture
Elco the Constitutionalist (not verified) LetThemEatRand Mar 2, 2017 1:25 AM

Legitimate verifiable elections are not an evil plot, you morons.

Dead Canary's picture

But, isn't ok if it makes us more safe? Quick, put the shackles on me now.

Dollar_Store_Confucius's picture

Why is it zerohedge, the only entity I fully trust to know what is going on in this crazy place, is accessible only through a device that is designed to spy on me while simultaneously enhancing the police state's boot on my neck?

jughead's picture

Your accessibility issues are of your own choice...or ignorance of the choices available.  

DirtySanchez's picture

The government has all the information and more than they will need from us.

Databases collect inf on you via your phone, transponder, ip address, computer activity, web activity, cable viewing, credit card purchases, etc....

Do you really believe the national id actually matters?

The national id simply keeps the political party that enjoys the votes of the minority voter, off balance for the coming years.

If the democrats can't fix elections, they are fucked!

crossroaddemon's picture

So youre in favor of this bullshit, are you? Statist fuck.

DirtySanchez's picture

Wake up, stupid, you are in a dream world.

I didn't say I am for it. I just said the horse left the fucking barn 20 years ago.

You just didn't  know it.

crossroaddemon's picture

Oh, I knew it. But why make it any worse? 

Anyway your premise is flawed. It won't hurt either party because the elections are rigged anyway.

DirtySanchez's picture

Yeah, that's right, stupid.

This is exactly why Trump was elected POTUS and the political/media establishment is throwing tantrums.


crossroaddemon's picture

They're throwing tantrums for your benefit... its the best orchestrated theater in human history. Meanwhile trump stacks his cabinet with insiders and is laying the groundwork to give them everything they want, and you seriously think they're not happy with him? Im telling you you're being played.

DirtySanchez's picture


You figured this all out yourself.

You should be running the country.

VWAndy's picture

 Yes we are getting fucking played fool. Wake Up!

tmosley's picture

You guys are flushing your credibility right along with the Dems. I really hate to see it. I wanted to see a new opposition party that was devoted to freedom, but it looks like all we are going to get is deranged screeching for all time.

VWAndy's picture

 Trump worshiping is not going to work out any better for you then Obama worshipin worked out for his peeps.

Vigilante's picture

The world is not populated by sovereign citizens/saints/philosophers but by dumb/violent/nihilistic fucks (mostly)

Authoritarian rule has always been the norm with a few exceptions.


crossroaddemon's picture

Are you suggesting we bend over and take it?

PT's picture

No, he's just suggesting we will, whether we should or not.

jughead's picture

we already did.  The question now is whether we have the fucking balls to put our fat, dumb and happy lives at risk to start reversing it.


aminorex's picture

and the answer is no.  we might see a gandhi/mlk type - how many of those in history though? - one who can dismantle the police state without waging war, but it is pretty clear that americans are unwilling to defend themselves by arms.

anyhow jesus told me not to fight, so i will just go hide instead.  i will however pray that god raise up a rod to strike the root of evil, since he has proscribed me from doing so.


jughead's picture

and we, the USA were one of those exceptions...until we got fat, lazy and complacent and gleefully submitted to allowing government to do what governments always do...grow and gorw and suffocate any shred of personal freedom.