Senator Sasse Issues Statement On Trump's "Very Serious Wiretapping Allegations"

Tyler Durden's picture

Senator Ben Sasse, a Republican member of the Senate Judiciary and Armed Services Committees, has issued the following statement after President Trump accused former President Obama of wiretapping his phones in 2016 and Obama's spokesman said that was false.

Sasse raises several key points: if the wiretap was authorized by a FISA Court, Trump should demand to see the application, find out on what grounds it was granted, and then present it to the US public at best, or at least the Senate. In case there was no FISA court, it is possible that Trump was illegally tapped. Finally, there is the possibility that Trump was not wiretapped at all, although for the president to make such a public allegation one would hope that there is at least some factual basis to the charge.

Here is Sasse's full statement.

Sasse Statement On Wiretapping

 

"The President today made some very serious allegations, and the informed citizens that a republic requires deserve more information.

 

If there were wiretaps of then-candidate Trump's organization or campaign, then it was either with FISA Court authorization or without such authorization.

 

If without, the President should explain what sort of wiretap it was and how he knows this. It is possible that he was illegally tapped.

 

On the other hand, if it was with a legal FISA Court order, then an application for surveillance exists that the Court found credible.

 

The President should ask that this full application regarding surveillance of foreign operatives or operations be made available, ideally to the full public, and at a bare minimum to the U.S. Senate.

Sasses then concludes:

"We are in the midst of a civilization-warping crisis of public trust, and the President's allegations today demand the thorough and dispassionate attention of serious patriots. A quest for the full truth, rather than knee-jerk partisanship, must be our guide if we are going to rebuild civic trust and health."

It appears that the Trump admin may already be working on Sasse's recommendations: as the NYT reports, "a senior White House official said that Donald F. McGahn II, the president’s chief counsel, was working on Saturday to secure access to what the official described as a document issued by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court authorizing surveillance of Mr. Trump and his associates. The official offered no evidence to support the notion that such a document exists; any such move by a White House counsel would be viewed at the Justice Department as a stunning case of interference."

Alternatively, it would be viewed as a case president seeking to determine if his predecessor was actively plotting to interfere with the election via wiretapping, also a quite "stunning" case.

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turkey george palmer's picture

Sausage or bacon. Democrat or Republican

Winston Churchill's picture

Sausage or chipolata, both pizza toppings.

chunga's picture

Can't argue with any of that. Let's go!

 

OccamsCrazor's picture

OBAMA IS GOING DOWN FOLKS.  This is Trump's way of warning you all whats coming. He would not ever do this, if it wasn't true.  He knew from back before he got elected.  

youarelost's picture

He reads minds . He is god. He knows all

Kneel before him

IndyPat's picture

14 week old guppytroll.
Straight from the Soros hatchery.

Swim, little fish.

dalefi36's picture

I have noticed on several occasions somebody pointing out that another commenter has only been here for "x" amount of time and therefore his opinion is not valid. Whats up with that? What difference does it make how long a person has been commenting here?

Jim in MN's picture

This is one of the most influential websites in the world.  Years ago ZHers like Cognitive Dissonance and George Washington went to great lengths to research, analyze and describe the easily observed traits of paid trolls and operatives in online forums.  So folks here basically know what to look for.

Not all newbies are trolls, but those who lay dormant for a while then pop up with dozens of posts per day espousing a 'party line' view, and often accompanied by other new accounts that parrot back to create a pantomime of actual conversation reinforcing that party line, are among the easiest to spot.

Newbies who exhibit honest curiousity and critical thinking are not so prone to being accused of such shenanigans.  But we are pretty cranky here, so we all accuse each other of many things.  Believe me I have been accused of much and I am practically a silverback.

chunga's picture

Then there's the track record, street cred thing. It took me 6 years but I think moast everybody knows what an asshole I am, thousands of crazy comments later, I've earned it.

That's something I'm pretty proud of.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpUMSarCSQw

Mustafa Kemal's picture

And youve earned it chunga,

Kenny Powers, is that you?

Nikao7's picture

What this guy ^ said.

Krungle's picture

Basic hominid social dynamics, isn't that obvious? Hell, it is actually basic social animal dynamics--all social animals distrust newcomers to the group. For most of evolutionary history that is because newcomers were likely to not be genetically related and thus not have the same investment in the existing group's wellbeing. As humans have evolved into non-genetic based social networks, the same thing is at play, only it isn't genetic but memetic. Someone who just shows up to the group is assumed to not have the same core beliefs, and thus, there is a defensive group reaction to protect itself against outside ideas. That person may have the same set of ideas, or ideas worth listening to, but a group is inherently wary of such individuals.

On top of that, we are all aware this site has been singled out as a propaganda outlet, and as such, is a target for well documented attacks by other groups. Hence, the natural resistance of social groups to newcomers is with merit here. 

Fed Supporter's picture

Not to mention we don't want any outsiders messing with our confirmation bias.

Theta_Burn's picture

No... that would be Bushes/obama's..DHS

Trump has had enough of getting fucked with.

Jim in MN's picture

Remember, although this is right and fitting, Clinton/McCain and the Deep State Evildoers will be ecstatic watching Obama burn.

Much much more to this fight. 

BrownCoat's picture

@ OccamsCrazor,

Obama going down? Your statements would be more believable if Hillary was in prison.

At best it is Trump firing a warning shot. At worse it is a continuation of the playground name calling between Schumer, Pelosi and Trump.

 

Remember, elites don't go to jail, they get bailouts and bonuses. 

stant's picture

Obama needs to get his ass outa DC.

BrownCoat's picture

Back to Illinois? Ha! Even Peter Fitzgerald did not go back after his term in the Senate.

Zorba's idea's picture

Send in the predator drones...skip the "have a nice day Barry" leaflets.

BadDog's picture

One word. Lamposts.

alexcojones's picture

Just had to be PUTIN-!

alexcojones's picture

Putin in the library with Colonel Mustard

gregga777's picture

One should be extremely wary of trusting anything from the United States of America's Feral Gangster Government.

LukeWorm's picture

" If federal authorities did have cause to listen in on Trump Tower, though, and they provided enough evidence for a FISA court to approve the snooping, Obama is not the one who ought to worry. "

https://www.wired.com/2017/03/feds-wiretap-trump-tower-not-obama-worry/

booboo's picture

Do you know how many applications to the FISA courts to wire tap a U.S. Citizen that have been turned down?

Hmmmm? Not very many and from what is out there tapping Trump TOwer was one of them but they went back a second time on a narrower pretense. It fuckjing better be good or Ojackass is getting a free ride back to his mud hut in Kenya.

Fed Supporter's picture

I want to know what the fvck kind of treason can a presidential candidate be engaged in to require a an fking investigation. If this wasn't politically driven investigation from the beginning I dont know what is.  Anyone half awake saw the Clinton campaign create this whole damn "Russian did it" narrative as soon as there shit started to get exposed and why not pile on Trump in the mean time. 

Wiki leaks said it was not the Russians on the Podesta email.  Putin denied the hacks but said it was a public service to the American who ever did it.  YOu know this must of just fried the left and the intelligence community who collectively have never ever predicted or stopped one terrorist attack.  The IC would be lucky if they could find their own asses with both hands.

NDXTrader's picture

This article is absolute nonsense and could only have been written by a liberal

Winston Churchill's picture

I'm sure many ham sandwiches have been wire tapped with FISA court approval.

Its a Star Chamber, prohibited by the constitution. as well as a kangaroo court..

Don Sunset's picture

Signs of a failing GOVT probably go something like this:

1.  Can't produce reasonable budgets

2.  GOVT parties lose their identities

3.  Finger pointing everywhere

4.  Huge debts

5.  Lawlessness

6.  Attempts to change the GOVT system/form/type

7.  Over tax

8.  Failure to perform routine government activities

9.  Failure to protect rights

10. Manipulation of Economy (lack of free price discovery, currency manipulation and permitting bailouts)

11.  GOVT DEPTs supporting political agendas.

USA is in death spiral.

BigFatUglyBubble's picture

12. Never-ending, stagnating, unconstitutional, imperialistic foreign wars

apoplectic query's picture

13. Too many Elites, and they are split factions. Fighting each other.

insanelysane's picture

Seems to me to be a list of government activities regardless of failing or suceeding.

Zorba's idea's picture

I'm betting on "failure to perform".

VWAndy's picture

 Was Trump under secret service protection as a front running candidate? They might have some explainning to do also. jus sayin

Stormtrooper's picture

Come on Donald!  Issue a blanket pardon to all patriots who take the initiative and we will drain the swamp for you, one round at at time.

Smedley's picture

Who is this clown?

They ALREADY have the denied application (June 2016) AND the APPROVED one dated later!!!

Really???

nibsy's picture

Who is this clown?

 

Associated with Dennt Hastert according to scuttlebutt on the deepweb. Pizzagate implications.

 

Maybe they're starting to get worried.


Fred Bear's picture

Oooooooo, Let me get my Popcorn before the Comment section begins......

flaminratzazz's picture

a quest for the full truth, rather than knee-jerk partisanship, must be our guide if we are going to rebuild civic trust and health."

yeah ok.. good luck with that..

Atomizer's picture

This senhor is gambling with Trump again. Trump always wins. He's history. 

BigFatUglyBubble's picture

"always" ???

Repealing Obamacare is a big behind schedual LOSE

 

gatorengineer's picture

Its a tax, where constitutionally do all tax bills have to originate?  Tick Tock

DirtySanchez's picture

This bitch, sasse needs a fucking beating about the head with an aluminum baseball bat until he stops pissing me off.

BigFatUglyBubble's picture

They are trying to rile you up because they feed off the hate.

dalefi36's picture

What part of his completely rational statement pisses you off?

hotrod's picture

Remember FISA court is not a CONSTITUTIONAL COURT.  They get to do what they want in accordance with the Deep State.  Let's see the application

BigFatUglyBubble's picture

Just like Libya and Syria are not CONSTITUTIONAL wars.

bookofenoch's picture

YES!!!!!! Go Trump!

Drain that swamp!!!!!