Senator Sasse Issues Statement On Trump's "Very Serious Wiretapping Allegations"

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Senator Ben Sasse, a Republican member of the Senate Judiciary and Armed Services Committees, has issued the following statement after President Trump accused former President Obama of wiretapping his phones in 2016 and Obama's spokesman said that was false.

Sasse raises several key points: if the wiretap was authorized by a FISA Court, Trump should demand to see the application, find out on what grounds it was granted, and then present it to the US public at best, or at least the Senate. In case there was no FISA court, it is possible that Trump was illegally tapped. Finally, there is the possibility that Trump was not wiretapped at all, although for the president to make such a public allegation one would hope that there is at least some factual basis to the charge.

Here is Sasse's full statement.

Sasse Statement On Wiretapping


"The President today made some very serious allegations, and the informed citizens that a republic requires deserve more information.


If there were wiretaps of then-candidate Trump's organization or campaign, then it was either with FISA Court authorization or without such authorization.


If without, the President should explain what sort of wiretap it was and how he knows this. It is possible that he was illegally tapped.


On the other hand, if it was with a legal FISA Court order, then an application for surveillance exists that the Court found credible.


The President should ask that this full application regarding surveillance of foreign operatives or operations be made available, ideally to the full public, and at a bare minimum to the U.S. Senate.

Sasses then concludes:

"We are in the midst of a civilization-warping crisis of public trust, and the President's allegations today demand the thorough and dispassionate attention of serious patriots. A quest for the full truth, rather than knee-jerk partisanship, must be our guide if we are going to rebuild civic trust and health."

It appears that the Trump admin may already be working on Sasse's recommendations: as the NYT reports, "a senior White House official said that Donald F. McGahn II, the president’s chief counsel, was working on Saturday to secure access to what the official described as a document issued by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court authorizing surveillance of Mr. Trump and his associates. The official offered no evidence to support the notion that such a document exists; any such move by a White House counsel would be viewed at the Justice Department as a stunning case of interference."

Alternatively, it would be viewed as a case president seeking to determine if his predecessor was actively plotting to interfere with the election via wiretapping, also a quite "stunning" case.

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sinbad2's picture

Yeah I'm waiting, when do you think he will start?

johnwburns's picture

Fuck this guy. Neocon waterboy.

Atomizer's picture

Ben Sasse, handing you a shoval to dig your career 6 feet under. 

Dr. Venkman's picture

Am i off on the timing that the second FISA application was contemporaneous with the "Trump Dossier" bullshit being turned over to the government? If they used that doc as a basis there might be some trouble.

WTFUD's picture

Sometimes i feel like somebody's watching me, and i got no Privacy.

In the beginning God created Obama . . .

The sooner Obama and the Clinton's are in bright orange jumpsuits the safer i'll feel.

roadhazard's picture

Trump needs a lawyer by his side when he tweets.  He's in the shit now because you have to have, "probabal cause" to get a wire tap.


Making hole bigger. 

NihilistZerO___'s picture

7 week member with padwan level CTR trolling skills (at best)...

We will only mock or ignore you :-)

BigFatUglyBubble's picture

O sorry, "we"?  Is this

This used to be a cool libertarian site but now it's filled with toadies, lackeys, and sycophants.

If you like your big government statist, you can keep your big government statist.

I'm not new.


booboo's picture

Um, no actually dumb ass Lowrenta Lynch could have started wiretapping Trump for 6 days before being required to obtain a FISA warrant and if she was denied even more time to continue until a second try at it so Obama may not have even had a warrant at the time of the tap.

roadhazard's picture

Maybe, or Trump is spreading fake news. "Where's the Beef."

monad's picture

Pitch in Sasse.

RagaMuffin's picture

The real question that matters, who isn't "wiretapped"?

ThunderStruck's picture

So this asshole concludes:  

We are in the midst of a civilization-warping crisis of public trust, and the President's allegations today demand the thorough and dispassionate attention of serious patriots. A quest for the full truth, rather than knee-jerk partisanship, must be our guide if we are going to rebuild civic trust and health."

Spoken as of all these cockroaches that live in the dark will EVER be able to rebuild the public trust after Edward Snowden shone the light on them.

mc888's picture

rebuild civic trust and health

what a fucking joke.

BrownCoat's picture

Senator Sasse made a good point: "We are in the midst of a civilization-warping crisis of public trust"

In fact, because of public distrust in national government institutions (IRS targeting political groups, Vets dying while waiting for medical care so govt workers could receive bonuses, Justice Dept selling weapons to Mexican drug cartels), it seems plausible that a president would wiretap a rival candidate.

But, finding the truth gets murky. The so-called Patriot Act prevents some government actions from being made public. If the president makes a FISA ruling public, does he violate the law? If so, can he pardon himself?

Maybe better advice is to rearrange the deck chairs on the sinking ship called the former USA.



sinbad2's picture

I'm glad you brought up the Vets.

If Trump was smart, he would have made a big deal about the treatment of war veterans, the Democrats would not dare to oppose him, and he could lay the blame on Obama.

He would also be seen to be doing something more than just tweeting.

Trump has to take the initiative, if he just keeps responding to Democrat attacks, it will destroy his credibility.

hmmmstrange's picture

Wonder how much Trump would have won by if he had the whitehouse tapped.

gmak's picture

Are you not entertained?  If civilization is ending, I'd rather be laughing throughout until I give up the ghost, than hiding in sheer terror while zombies and cannibals run loose - unti they get me.

Able Ape's picture

Burn CONgress at the STAKE - just 535 plastic tie-wraps, 535 stakes, 535 gallons of gas, and a Zippo lighter manufactured in Bradford, PA. and America can be back on the road to greatness...

Insearch's picture

Trump could have shot out tweet. Just to get a response from Obama
Then boom evidence comes out... Just like dems did w/Sessions

We Are The Priests's picture

Didn't they ban the word lynch?

aloha_snakbar's picture

Yes... Lynch is *racist*. From now on we refer to Ms Tarmac as, "the glandularly challenged, dishonest, affirmative action FAIL"...

Hammer of Light's picture

You got a real good chuckle outta me today! That's damn funny! "Glandularly Chellenged", shnikee's that's a hoot!

ronaldwilsonreagan's picture

Trump makes Hillary look truthful. Amazing

We Are The Priests's picture

Now this little tit for tat has some hair on it.  Is this going to lead to a show down directly between Trump and Obomber?  Trump going directly at Obomber like this is going to seriously rile the Obomberite Army of the Dead.

The stakes in dangerous games are always high, just like the risks.  Shit like this can go south real quick.  As Dave at X22 Report always says, "We'll have to keep an eye on this."

Hammer of Light's picture

Love Dave! X22 Report is badass! This guy truly knows his stuff! This info should give Trump the ability to decapitate Obama once and for all. I guarantee you ole man Trump Mr. President sir would not have uttered a word unless there was ROCK SOLID evidence to prove this material fact. Mt. Trump is NOT prone to rookie mistakes like that. It appears Sasse is however and comes off looking like a 2 pump chump for it. Man you never comment on something this serious unless you really do know the facts and truth of a thing. This is a a very big story no question.

Elco the Constitutionalist's picture
Elco the Constitutionalist (not verified) Mar 4, 2017 6:34 PM

The end game is many of these congress critters behind bars. They are the ones with the oversight of the military/security complex. They are the ones who go to jail when the curtains are lifted.

Elco the Constitutionalist's picture
Elco the Constitutionalist (not verified) Mar 4, 2017 6:40 PM

There is no constitutional argument for a FISA court. The concept makes a mockery of legal systems in general. The 5th and 6th amendments were established as conditions of accepting a federal government. The 5th and 6th amendments are in place to ensure that legal proceedings are legitimate extensions of the Will of The People. Transparency and citizen participation are predicates of this.

No argument can be made that any of those preconditions are demonstrated by FISA courts.

The corporate media (including Conservative Inc.) is never going to discuss these issues. It is looking more like the only solutions is a 2nd American Revolution.

Trucker Glock's picture

"The judicial power of the United States, shall be vested in one Supreme Court, and in such inferior courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish."

"The judicial power shall extend to all cases, in law and equity, arising under this Constitution, the laws of the United States, and treaties made, or which shall be made, under their authority"

FISA Court was created by Congress and upheld by SCOTUS.  When will so-called Constitutionalists realize the Constitution is the problem, not a solution?

Kelley's picture

Sasse should have contacted the WH to find out what evidence the WH has to back up what Trump has said rather than going off half cocked admitting he doesn't know what the facts are.

He looks like a chump, wanting to make a statement to get his name into the news cycle without offering anything of substance.

MuffDiver69's picture

Nah...This is what Trump wants...people to demand the FISA order be released...Sessions has seen it for sure

Hammer of Light's picture

Looks like a chump? This guy Sasse is a full blown crawlin up the asshole of McCain and McConnell kind of CHUMP - Hey Sasse, I donated to your campaign to get you elected... guess what, man did I frak up! You're nothing but a statist corporate greedy scumbag in a suit now infecting us all while oozing out your totally incompetent spilling your candy in the lobby utter bullshit. Premature intellectual ejaculation's got nothing on you!

Your comment is TOTALLY inappropriate and since you know NOTHING about strategy, you opened your stupid repugnakin corporate mouth before knowing any facts. You will NOT be getting one thin dime from me ever again that's for damn sure!

You come off looking like a 2 Pump Chump there Ben! Now Choke it!

dogmete's picture

wow you really let him have it, he'll never recover.

joeyman9's picture

He's an asshole and a never trumper.  Enough said.

MuffDiver69's picture

Good boy...Graham said a similiar thing....Sessions has been AG three weeks and I guarantee he has seen the FISA order...This is Trumps play...he is bringing this out in the open and denying the smear campaign set up by Obama to have the media twist leaks from anonymous sources for months before Trump is cleared...The plan has been to attack anyone in Trumps administration that even looks at a Russian,while at the same time the democrats invited the Russian Ambassador to Trumps speech Tuesday...not hard to figure out really

Davidduke2000's picture

On my home I was listening to NPR on the radio and they were freaking out , " Trump has no evidence", I enjoy listening to these freaks going mad when things do not go their way.

I really believe the US cannot avoid a civil war and possibly disintegration.

joeyman9's picture

There's a  chance that by the time this is over, the entire fedgov will go the way of the Soviet Union.  Fortunately (or not) some of the states will pick up the slack of having a civil govt in place to replace the feds.  Just think, no deductions for SSI, Medicare and no Federal Income Tax!!!!!  No Fed TSA either!!!

MuffDiver69's picture

This is a good take on what the FISA judge thought they were doing with the warrant...Turns out Trump has servers that spam out advertisements to his resorts and other properties..Some hit the email of a Russian bank.If they kept the warrant open or used it to collect other data to spread around this is huge...Trump has denied any bank loans or financial ties to Russia.....good read

BrownCoat's picture

@ MuffDiver69,

Your source is NOT credible. Financed by an eBay millionaire. Employed Juan Thompson of Jewish bomb threat fame.


hoyeru's picture
hoyeru (not verified) Mar 4, 2017 7:06 PM

haha Amerikka is becomign the best circus to watch. The whole world is laughing their asses off at "America", the *former* "land of freedom and democracy".

The Navigator's picture

"land of freedom and democracy"

Land of the Free and a Constitutional Republic - we are NOT a Democracy.

A Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb asking 'What's for dinner'

Thanks for fucking up the discussion with your imbecilic comment.

Danedog's picture

I am sure that Trump wanted to keep Sessions out of this for now because the Dems would cry foul.  Also, the Justice department still has many swamp creatures.

shimmy's picture

I am sure the MSM cult fucks are out in full force trashing Trump over this. So democrats can make any Russian claim and it's fact without evidence but Trump makes a claim and it MUST be bullshit.

Love the bias of these morons. The best will be if this turns out to be true, the media will blame it on Russia. Somehow Russia will have set it up so Obozo looked like he did the tapping.

Stef1304's picture

It was time to call in the fight. Hope Trump is ready to unlash some heavy artillery here.

(not sure that those democrats are used to battle the way Trump is, especially when the man is in the white house. They probably walked in a dead end they set for themselves)

nc551's picture

They didn't expect Trump to win, I doubt they covered their tracks, the full truth is likely on the way.