James Clapper Denies Obama Wiretapped Trump

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The former Director of National Intelligence under the Obama administration, James Clapper, denied there was a secret court order for surveillance at Trump Tower. Speaking on NBC's Meet The Press, Clapper said that in the national intelligence activity he oversaw, "there was no such wiretap activity mounted against the president, the president-elect at the time, as a candidate or against his campaign."

Clapper was asked if he would be aware if something like that had happened. "I would certainly hope so ... Obviously I can't speak officially anymore," "But I will say that for the part of the national security apparatus that I oversaw as DNI, there was no such wiretap activity." Clapper said that as intelligence director he would have known about a "FISA court order on something like this. Absolutely, I can deny it."

Clapper also said he would know if a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) court order existed for "something like this."

"And at this point you can't confirm or deny whether that exists?" host Chuck Todd asked.

"I can deny it," Clapper said in response. "There is no FISA court order," Todd asked. "Not to my knowledge," Clapper responded.

Clapper left the White House on January 20 when Trump took office.

Clapper's comments come after President Trump accused former President Barack Obama of wiretapping Trump Tower in the last stages of the 2016 presidential campaign, and at the same time as the White House announced it would request a Congressional probe into whether Obama abused "executive branch investigative powers."

Some have pointed out the irony of relying on Clapper's word to deny Trump's - so far unsourced - allegations.

In addition to his political role in firing Michael Flynn from the directorship of the Defense Intelligence Agency in 2014, Flynn is perhaps best known for his March 2013 appearance in Seante, months before Snowden provided extensive NSA data documenting sweeping domestic and international communications dragnets, in which Clapper engaged in a back and forth with Senator Ron Wyden, an Oregon Democrat on the intelligence committee.

Wyden asked Clapper: “Does the NSA collect any type of data at all on millions, or hundreds of millions, of Americans?”

Clapper replied, untruthfully: “No sir,” rubbing his head. “Not wittingly.”

After Snowden's documents confirmed Clapper lied, the former intelligence director offered a shifting series of explanations for his publicly uttered falsehood. He first said it was the “least untruthful” answer he could provide in an unclassified hearing. Later he said he misunderstood which particular communications collection program Wyden was asking about – despite Wyden’s staff alerting Clapper’s before the hearing as to the question – and apologized to the committee.

Later, Clapper's lawyer, Robert Litt, would deny that Clapper lied and said the director simply forgot. Litt would also say that Clapper finds open intelligence-committee hearings, a requirement of congressional oversight, as annoying as folding fitted sheets, citing a distinctive turn of phrase used by his boss.

In November 2016, some lawmakers renewed their calls for perjury charges to face perjury charges. As USNews reported last year, "to his critics, Clapper lied under oath, a crime that threatens effective oversight of the executive branch. In an apology letter to lawmakers, however, Clapper said he gave the “clearly erroneous” answer because he “simply didn’t think of” the call-record collection. Clapper later told MSNBC he considered the question akin to asking, “When did you stop beating your wife?” and so gave the “least untruthful” answer."

No charges were filed against Clapper, but his critics say the incoming administration of President-elect Donald Trump could change that. Trump frequently railed against a “rigged system” on the campaign trail, alleging powerful people such as Hillary Clinton, his Democratic rival, avoid criminal charges thanks to a corrupt legal system.

 

"No one is above the law. Officials who commit perjury or lie to Congress should be held accountable,” Texas Republican Rep. Blake Farenthold tells U.S. News by email.

 

"Given the implications, a cursory examination of the facts to date under a less biased DOJ is in order,” says Arizona Republican Rep. Trent Franks. "I will withhold my judgment contingent on those findings."

Then-outgoing Rep. Alan Grayson, a Florida Democrat, said that Clapper could have sidestepped Wyden’s question but chose not to do so and further faults him for not issuing a prompt correction.  “This lie was particularly egregious because the answer actually affected the lives of every American,” Grayson says. “Clapper’s subsequent attempts at rationalization are no different from what Richard Nixon said: ‘When the President does it, that means that it is not illegal.’ If we want to call ourselves a nation of laws, then it is important that Clapper be prosecuted, and convicted.”

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For the time being, it's Clapper words versus that of Trump. Should Trump persist with his demand for a Congressional probe into Obama's alleged wiretapping, it is almost certain that Clapper will once again be called in to testify. It is unknown if he will again commit perjury and lie to Congress.

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Ramesees's picture

"Trust me, why would I lie."

BullyBearish's picture

Is it possible that there is even 1 person on this earth would believe this POS?

Arnold's picture

Ben Rhodes.

Bleeder.

remain calm's picture

Obama and Clapper say they didn't do it. Whom am I to question these 2 honest honarable patriots. But I digress now, fuck off you lying fucking scumbags

Belrev's picture

Obama also wiretapped Jeff Sessions as sitting senator in his Congressional office

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XytaCITmikw

Hugh_Jorgan's picture

He lied then, so is he lying now or is he telling the truth? Let's see, he is defending the indefensible (as ususual) so my guess is...

Never One Roach's picture

Clapper is a pathologic liar like his employer, Obama.

Keyser's picture

Funny, but Mark Levin outlined exactly what took place, referencing articles in WaPo, the NYT and other MSM outlets...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91fNfGjZdM0

 

Gaius Frakkin' Baltar's picture

A more pertinent question may be "Who are they not spying on?"

Be careful though, you may find out who's really in charge.

USisCorrupt's picture

I'm with TRUMP !

Clapper speaks like a TRUE Pedophile.

xythras's picture
xythras (not verified) USisCorrupt Mar 5, 2017 1:14 PM

Looks like Clapper wants to join the negro at Guantanamo Hotel

The nerve on this guy...when even the weasel Ryan admitted there were wiretaps on Trump:

VIDEO: Paul Ryan Admits to Having Knowledge of Trump Tower Wiretap

http://dailywesterner.com/news/paul-ryan-admits-to-having-knowledge-of-t...

 


stocker84's picture

I read your poorly written article. Title is very misleading and Ryan says no such thing. Either you're retarded or no better than the lying Democrats

 

Either way, you're a spammer so why would anybody trust anything you write? That's a rhetorical question. 

Your site will fail. Taking all that time to get a few dozen or a hundred clicks will eventually take it its toll. 

If your site was decent and truthful, you wouldn't need to troll or spam. People would spread the word. The fact that you are constantly going up against opposition.. The fact that you are lying to get readers... The fact that instead of your ratings going up exponentially and only go up when you spam here and then plummet when you back off just tells everyone you're destined to fail.... Because you just suck.

 

Try decency, hard work, word of mouth approach instead of trying to get something for nothing like the Democrat's base. You are very much better than the NYT fake nooz. Pathetic.

 

Check out his stats at Alexa. He pulls up in clicks right after a post and then plummets to the ground when he doesn't.

He spends hours writing articles that are full of shit. He is trying to become fight club... But it's more like spam club. Lol

This clown doesn't even have enough sense to space his own upvotes apart. But picture this clown hitting the refresh button on ZH a few hundred times to get in early so his message can be seen then he posts, signs out and back in several times in succession to upvote himself. Just imagine that scene in your head. Pathetic.

I wish, at the very least, there was an ignore button here.

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xythras (not verified) stocker84 Mar 5, 2017 3:45 PM

Since I triggered you, my mission was a success.

Eat shit and die, leftard.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

#PizzaGate

eatthebanksters's picture

Is that pizza sauce on the side of his mouth?

philipat's picture

Read what Clapper said carefully. He denied that there had been a wiretap on "Trump as a candidate or the Trump campaign". Quite apart from the fact we know Clapper is a congenital liar known to lie even under oath, his statement does NOT eliminate the possibility that the wiretap was against Trump as an individual citizen

The problem with that is, in the absence of a FISA Court Order, which Clapper claims to be the case, that would be completely ILLEGAL. Either way, this smells of problems for the Dem administration.

Chris Dakota's picture
Chris Dakota (not verified) SenselessPanic Mar 5, 2017 1:19 PM

10/__/16: wiretap granted (sometime in Oct.)

10/31/16: NYT reports FBI can't tie Trump to Russia

10/31/16: Mother Jones reports FBI has Dossier (FBI given Dossier months earlier)

11/07/16: 10:18 pm!! (election eve): Heat Street breaks “Exclusive” re: both FISA apps; author is Louise Mensch (Wikileaks emails of her chatting w/ HRC staff); walks back FBI conclusions from NYT article (because of Mother Jones’ article on Dossier? - article seems to reference Dossier (see picture w/ purple boxes below).

11/08/16 — Election Day

https://www.google.com/#q=louise+mensch+&*

eatthebanksters's picture

Did he say that they didn't tap Trump's server or any of his circle of advisors, aides and assistants.  No.  They very easil could have tapped someone else on the Trump server to wach what he was doing.  There is a there here....otherwise Obozo would have flatly denied any type of tap...he only said that he or his administration never ordered tap on a U.S. citizen (which is a lie when you thin of James Rosen).  The scumbags are about to have thrier dirty litle secrets uncovered and Clapper isone of the dirtiest.  I wouldn't be surpirsed if the Obama/Clapper moles are destroying eveidence as you read this.

Chris Dakota's picture
Chris Dakota (not verified) Keyser Mar 5, 2017 4:57 PM

James Clapper scared lying pedogater.

Clapper going down, very soon.

Chris Dakota's picture
Chris Dakota (not verified) Never One Roach Mar 5, 2017 12:46 PM
johngaltfla's picture

The same Clapper who said he didn't surveil US citizens until Snowden proved he did.

The same Clapper who said ISIS wasn't that big of a threat in Syria until it was.

The same Clapper who said the Muslim Brotherhood was not a threat or terrorist group.

The same Clapper who said the Arab Spring would bring about American style political reform in the region.

The same Clapper who lied about the Iran deal.

Yeah, that asswipe.

Cognitive Dissonance's picture

Ooh....that Clapper!

Why didn't you say so in the first place? I thought you meant this Clapper.

/humor

cdog's picture

Same Clapper that forgot he received a butt-ton more money to
build bigger, faster, computer centers to track all the data
he was collecting on Americans?

Ya that guy.
Either/Or, baby.
Either you're an up-to-no-good-lying-POS, or
you're f*n incompetent and mentally ill.

onewayticket2's picture

obama did not "order" it.....he did not have to....he hired people who felt exactly the same way he did....so that he didnt have to intruct them on how to destroy republicans..

 

stop asking/caring if obama did it.....it's if the obama ADMINISTRATION or their internal supporters did it.

Chris Dakota's picture
Chris Dakota (not verified) onewayticket2 Mar 5, 2017 12:57 PM

Obama was the president, buck stops with him.

New_Meat's picture

for eight years the buck stopped with Bush, now all of o's chickens will roost on ttump plaza.

Logan 5's picture
Logan 5 (not verified) New_Meat Mar 5, 2017 1:44 PM

Sadly ~ the buck hasn't stopped since 1913

Lumberjack's picture

"If you like your legacy...."

j0nx's picture

The most likely scenario is that in October they knew their goose was cooked from their own internal polls so they threw up a Hail Mary FISA court request to bug Trump tower in the hopes of getting some kind of dirt on him ASAP before the election to sway the results they knew were going against them. Flat out imo what happened if this is true. It is highly illegal and inappropriate to bug the campaign of a competitor in this fashion and we all know the probable cause was bullshit. Someone is going to jail over this.

Also is chuck schumer going to be held culpably responsible for the molestation of that young girl by that foreigner he sponsored to enter the country after the Trump ban? If not then why?

Chupacabra-322's picture

This scandal cries out for aggressive investigation. Let’s see the initial FISA application, and the court order denying it. Then let’s see the second application, and the order that approved it. Let’s put the Obama administration officials who signed the applications under oath, and find out who put them up to it. Let’s find out what judges denied the first application, and what judges granted the second one. Let’s get the details on the Obama administration’s spying. Did they tap the Trump campaign’s telephones? If so, which lines? Did they hack into the Trump campaign’s servers? If so, which ones?

Obviously, as President Trump said, the Obama administration learned nothing of significance from its spying on the Trump campaign. But it now appears that the election of 2016 may have been hacked after all, in a far more meaningful way than an intrusion into Debbie Wasserman-Schultz’s email account. It may have been hacked by the Obama administration. We need to find out what happened. Congress should give top priority to this investigation.

Absolutely.

So what Criminals at large Obama, Clapper & Lynch have done 17 days prior to former CEO Criminal Obama leaving office was to Decentralize & weaken the NSA. As a result, Intel gathering was then regulated to the other 16 Intel Agencies.
Thus, taking Centuries Old Intelligence based on a vey stringent Centralized British Model, De Centralized it, filling the remaining 16 Intel Agenices with potential Spies and a Shadow Deep State Mirror Government.

All controlled from two blocks away at Pure Evil Criminal War Criminal Treasonous at large, former CEO Obama's Compound / Lair.

It's High Treason being conducted "Hidden In Plain View" by the Deep State. It's the most Bizzare Transition of Power I've ever witnessed.

Unprecedented.

And, If Obama, Lynch & Clapper all agreed 17 days out to change the surveillance structure of the NSA. What date exectly did the changes occur in relation to the first FISA request for the Trump Wire Taps?

Thing is, there are multiple different High Crimes at play.
1. The looting of Fanny Mae & Freddie Mac to fund Obamacare.
2. The Lynch DOJ tax payer slush fund to fund Political Leftists Groups
3. The FISA wiretapping

strannick's picture

Deny deny deny, then make counter accusations 

Dame Ednas Possum's picture

You know when this prick is lying... whenever his mouth is open.

Giant Meteor's picture

Exactly correct.. And the truth is, he isn't even very good at it.

Ignatius's picture

Confirmed liar. 

He wasn't held to account for lying to Congress before, so why would it be different now?

laser's picture

Everyone is tapped all the time.

Excursionist's picture

You have to parse these people's words carefully... based on my read, Clapper's entire premise for denying the wire tap is that he would have been aware of a FISA order and that he was unaware of one's existence for snooping on Trump et al.  Fine.  But if Trump's allegation is true, then Clapper's comments are extremely helpful, since the tap would have occurred without a FISA order.  Or Clapper lied re: the existence of a FISA order.

Almost Solvent's picture

Exactly - and a third option to ponder: There might have been a FISA order Clapper was unaware of, which would in and of itself prove the decision came from the White House to cut Clapper out of the loop. Maybe Rhodes or Jarett made that decision on their own. Maybe their boss had no clue. Maybe, but I doubt it in that scenario. 

Jim in MN's picture

Actually there's an easier way to have this be the 'least untruthful' line for Clapper to take.

The FISA warrant was for someone in Russia but they used it to dragnet Trump Tower just in case the Russian might be on the phone, or email, or anything else.

In fact, the story that seems to be emerging is that they may have planted malware that caused a Trump-operated server to communicate with a Russian one (a bank or something), then used the FISA warrant on the Russian end to implement surveillance on Trump.

So there may in fact not be a warrant for Trump.  Just a warrant that got Trump wiretapped even though his name was never on it.

See?  Easy peasy.

swmnguy's picture

That's far more likely.  These people aren't idiots.  They know exactly how to do this stuff.  Assuming people one disagrees with are stupid is, well, stupid.

sgt_doom's picture

Righto!

It's like Hillary tweeting:  "...every survivor of sexual assault deserves to be heard, believed, and supported"

But when a voter in New Hampshire town hall asked her whether should would apply this same standard to the many women who had accused her husband (Billygoat Clinton) of misconduct, she replied:  "I would say that everyone should be believed at first until they are disbelieved based on evidence."

Hmmmmm. . . . I don't recall her actually acting on this!?!?!?!

Uncertain T's picture

So-called Journalists on NBC, CNN ... the list goes on.

localsavage's picture

And the "journalists" didn't grill him on his adding of " in the national intelligence activity he oversaw" 

robertsgt40's picture

Clapper, another bastion of integrity.  Let's just call him Clap for short. More fitting. 

Giant Meteor's picture

Probably be better to get the clap. At least there is a surefire treatment for that ..

I would not mention the surefire remedy for Clapper, as  being Sunday and all, I'd prefer not to be rendered in the rendition. Heh , a great name for a band!

PS; yes I just committed a thought crime .. There's a pefectly good pot roast in the oven!

May as well save some tax payer fiat on the overtime .. what the hell, over?

Logan 5's picture
Logan 5 (not verified) robertsgt40 Mar 5, 2017 12:32 PM

Might as well just roll Obama, the Wookie, Pelosi, Schumer, Loretta Lynch, Wasserman, & Hillary herself up there & ask their opinions about it.

 

Let's really get to the bottom of this.

 

Fucking kangaroo court in a banana republic

Giant Meteor's picture

Let's get to the bottom of this!

Yes, I believe we've only just begun, to plumb the depths. Hope everyone has extra miners hats and plenty of extra battery power. Its a long way down and very dark and confusing, in that cavernous labyrinth.

Hellooooooo Gitchi Gummi !

Winston Churchill's picture

Don't forget your canary.

Swamp gas you know.

Logan 5's picture

Does any one know where the love of God goes, when the waves turn the minutes to hours?

Giant Meteor's picture

Sure I do! Have always loved that piece by Lightfoot.

A true treasure, and of course I'm partial to it as I was born and raised just a bit east of the Canadian border, so naturally Lake Ontario, for me, although not Superior, was a thing ..

Well done!