California Is Exporting Its Poor To Texas

Tyler Durden's picture

California exports more than commodities such as movies, new technologies and produce. As The Sacramento Bee reports, it also exports truck drivers, cooks and cashiers.

Every year from 2000 through 2015, more people left California than moved in from other states. This migration was not spread evenly across all income groups, a Sacramento Bee review of U.S. Census Bureau data found. The people leaving tend to be relatively poor, and many lack college degrees. Move higher up the income spectrum, and slightly more people are coming than going. About 2.5 million people living close to the official poverty line left California for other states from 2005 through 2015, while 1.7 million people at that income level moved in from other states – for a net loss of 800,000. During the same period, the state experienced a net gain of about 20,000 residents earning at least five times the poverty rate – or $100,000 for a family of three.

 

“There was really nothing left for me in California,” said Kundurazieff, who also writes a blog about his cats. “The cost of living was high. The rent was high. The job market was debatable.”

Not surprisingly, the state’s exodus of poor people is notable in Los Angeles and San Francisco counties, which combined experienced a net loss of 250,000 such residents from 2005 through 2015.

The leading destination for those leaving California is Texas, with about 293,000 economically disadvantaged residents leaving and about 137,000 coming for a net loss of 156,000 from 2005 through 2015. Next up are states surrounding California; in order, Arizona, Nevada and Oregon.

 

Losing impoverished residents to other states is better for the state’s economy than losing wealthy residents, some experts said. But they said the migration itself is a symptom of deeper social problems largely related to how expensive California has become.

“Why are people leaving? Economic reasons, the high cost of living, are certainly a part of it,” said Hans Johnson, senior fellow at the nonpartisan Public Policy Institute of California. “For those people (near the poverty line), California is not viable.”

By some measures, California has the highest poverty rate in the nation.

And as more and more residents leave, the burden to fund the state's welfare exuberance will fall more and more on the wealthier (that actually pay taxes). Rather than secession, perhaps it's time for the wealthy to join 'the poor' exodus and beat the crowd out of California...

George Bernard Shaw said, “A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul.” In many cases Peter quietly moved away and took his money with him.

Remember when top professional golfer, Phil Michelson created quite a stir complaining about California taxes, while putting his home up for sale? He would have been better off staying quiet about his reasons. California Political Review reports:

“Tiger Woods moved from Orange County, California to Orange County, Florida. In the first year of that move, he saved $13 million in taxes. Is it worth $13 million a year taken by government to live in California? Woods said no. Now it looks like Phil Michelson is about to make the same decision. He earns $60 million a year-he would save north of $5 million a year to move to a free State, like Florida or Texas.”

And as Dennis Miller previously noted, the election of President Trump sent shock waves through much of the political class. Many public union pensions are woefully underfunded. They donated millions to Hillary Clinton’s election campaign and expected federal bailouts. They knew they could count on Mrs. Clinton; she has a great track record of rewarding her political donors. Today no one knows what the new administration will do.

In the meantime, the scramble is on. The politicians in states that have been heavily supporting Paul have a huge base, not because they have won over the hearts and minds of Peter; but rather because the working class got tired of being fleeced and left. The politicos have to find ways to make good on all their free programs. Cutting benefits will cause citizens to storm the palace. They must find ways to generate more revenue.

Brian Daniels warns us, The Growing Specter of State “Exit Taxes” as Residents Abandon High-Tax States:

“To be clear, it is not legal for states to charge a true exit tax on citizens changing their residency from one state to another (this is not the case for the federal government, which does charge a large exit tax).

So what do high-tax states do to try and prevent their residents from moving their legal residence to low- or no-tax states? In a word, they audit them.”

When a taxpayer is audited, the agency issues an assessment for unpaid taxes. It’s not “innocent until proven guilty.” You must prove they are wrong or the assessment stands.

Once you intend to leave you are of no value to the politicos. Most people do not have the means to go to court. For some, it becomes a government shakedown to extract as much wealth as they can on your way out the door.

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Belrev's picture

California is filled with Mexicans and it is not poor?

Croesus's picture

The People's Republic of Commiefornia...

I feel for the ZH reader that's stuck there.

Logan 5's picture
Logan 5 (not verified) Croesus Mar 11, 2017 3:42 PM

Did u get that message hedgeless_h ?

 

Soon you'll have plenty of labor on hand so you can go 'speer' fishing all day long!

 

#WINNING!

cheka's picture

hurry up with that wall around cali

Stainless Steel Rat's picture
Stainless Steel Rat (not verified) cheka Mar 11, 2017 3:51 PM

"Fuck off, we're full" -Texas

PAPA ROACH's picture

These stupid motherfuckers better not come here and vote Dem.

Art Van Delay's picture

This way Texas will become Mexico again

 

Escrava Isaura's picture

Food for though

California vs. Texas

California had one more economic bright spot in 2015: Per capita personal income grew at twice the rate as in Texas, 5.4 percent to 2.6 percent, according to federal data.

http://www.politifact.com/california/statements/2016/dec/19/jerry-brown/are-jobs-california-growing-hell-lot-faster-texas/

 

Logan 5's picture
Logan 5 (not verified) Escrava Isaura Mar 11, 2017 4:16 PM

Meanwhile: In Brasil...

 

Per capita Ryan Lochte piss on buildings, DOUBLED the volume of sanitary spray washing of same said buildings!

 

But piss is sterile ~ so you're all OK...

Theosebes Goodfellow's picture

I guess some folks just can't read the article before chiming in. Some cogent shit:

 

1.) These are WORKERS who are leaving.

2.) Left out of the article is all the upper wage WORKERS who are leaving as well.

3.) The migration is not from California alone.

4.) These are all ECONOMIC REFUGEES. They are moving to some place they can afford to live.

5.) california still has an illegal overpopulation problem that isn't going away and is bankrupting the state.

6.) The Big Sur Bridge just crapped out. Repair estimate... $50 BILLION DOLLARS! (Who pays for that?)

vato poco's picture

doesn't mean shit. they're californians, in their precious little suntanned brie-eating wine-sipping bones. they WILL do their best to fuck up Texas, because that's what viruses DO to the host. 

as exhibit A, I offer you the once rock-solid-republican states of Washington, Oregon, Nevada, Colorado, Montana....

drive them away with fire and hate speech, or nuke em from orbit. it's the only way to be sure.

peddling-fiction's picture

Do you have a greencard vato?

If you really want to integrate into the States, it is not with a vato poco handle.

yogibear's picture

Californians  infested Colorado and liberalized that state. Now Colorado is all fucked up.

UmbilicalMosqueSweeper's picture

"Who pays for that?" - Progressive parasites?

zippedydoodah's picture

"At its completion, the bridge was built under budget for $199,861 (equivalent to $3.5 million in 2016)"

It's difficult to imagine a $5 Billion dollar cost, let alone $50 Billion. Where is your link to this clearly fake news?

Manthong's picture

California is also exporting its businesses and their tax revenues to anywhere but Callifornia.

jmack's picture

from the linked article:

 

"In 2014, Texas recorded a 3.7 percent job growth rate, ahead of California’s 2.9 percent pace.

Looking to the future, California’s job gains may slow. The closely watched UCLA Anderson Forecast predicts jobs to grow by only 1.5 percent in the state during 2017 and just 0.8 percent in 2018.

Because Brown used the phrase "is growing," we’ll judge him on the most recent figures, not future forecasts."

billybobtx's picture

Cost of living way less in TX. Wait, no...it's expensive as hell, nobody should ever come here.

Alamo'd's picture

Go billybob.  Us Texans want no more new people.  If you weren't born here, you need a visa to get in and when you do you can't work here.  AND your visa is only good for 1 month.  Gov Abbot needs to get new legislation.  I know he's thinking about a number of suprising moves.

BarkingCat's picture

I put forth an idea if state citizenship before.

It would work on similar principal as federal citizenship with regard to voting.

People don't get to vote until they lived in the state for at least 5 years.

I would put further restrictions on it. For example out of state college students are not allowed to vote until after graduation. 

crazzziecanuck's picture

Nah, once things settle down, peole in Texas will move again to wherever to escape rising taxes and rents.  It's inevitable as our entire system is held up by these kind of parasitic economics.  If you have a dime, Goldman Sachs believes ten cents of that is naturally theirs and working very hard with Washington to rob you of it.

Lather.  Rinse.  Repeat.

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prime american (not verified) crazzziecanuck Mar 12, 2017 5:17 AM

I'm making over $7k a month working part time. I kept hearing other people tell me how much money they can make online so I decided to look into it. Well, it was all true and has totally changed my life. This is what I do... http://bit.ly/2jdTzrM

Escrava Isaura's picture

OVI.

LMAO.

That was great.

 

peddling-fiction's picture

Maybe its time to start leaking the dirt file you have on OVI, the capon, Wikileaks style.

canisdirus's picture

Oh, they are doing it everywhere they go. That's why many states are as purple as they are out west.

JamesBond's picture

It's because the rents too damn high

 

jb

Darkman17's picture

I'm moving from CA to austin. Will be voting straight republican preferring libertarians. i don't have any data but my instinct is that the more conservatives will move there to escape the nonsense here.
california is plagued with europeans and canadians who get their citizenship and want to recreate the socialist state they fled to find work.

Keep passing more and more pro gun and anti welfare laws and you'll keep the socialist californians from moving there. also push to cut all mass transit, that will keep them out.

vato poco's picture

if that's your ideological bent, you're going to hate Austin. 30 years ago? Sure. Gentle mellow stoner hippies steeped in live n let live. 

Now? Berkeley West. (*EAST*, goddammit. no more afternoon tequila) more to the point, they're gonna hate you - and will try to harm you just like any self-worshipping Berkeley asshole would. good luck; you're gonna need it....

canisdirus's picture

Austin is a hellhole of ex-Californians now. You're not really doing yourself a favor. The 909 is more conservative.

ThisIsMadness's picture

Oh they are. Houston, Austin, San Antonio, and Dallas are already full of libs. Operation Purple Texas in progress. 

JimJinNJ's picture

they will, be certain of it.  libtardism is like leprosy--it just keeps spreading and eating its host.

time for some extreme vetting at the Texas borders.

meterman's picture

PAPA - But they will vote Demoncratic - California ruined Oregon and Washington with the Immigrant puss they oosed north - Now Texas?

Hateful 

Yog Soggoth's picture

Same for Florida. Here it is usually some poser surfer types with CALIFLORIDA stickers on their brand new foriegn car. I hate every one of them geeks. Why don't they just move to Ohio where everyone is a Barney.

fedupwhiteguy's picture

Hey Turtle... Nice reference.

Croesus's picture

@ Logan 5:

I never could stand bullshit artists or phonies...I grew-up in an area where a lot of people had money; the pretenders were the ones who lived in "more house than they needed", drove a car that was "as much as their credit allowed them to borrow", etc. The braggards who act like they're "big shit", and tend to look down their nose at people.

Then, there were the "legitimately wealthy" - live respectable lives, and actually have some class. Live by the KISS principle...

I'll give you 1 guess at which group had more accumulated wealth.

Logan 5's picture
Logan 5 (not verified) Croesus Mar 11, 2017 5:01 PM

well, you DID mention 'nose'

Croesus's picture

Hedgeless is a decent guy, and he means well; I just wish he'd keep it real.

This isn't regular "social media": we've got a fairly intellectual crowd here, who are generally more impressed by practical knowledge, than by boasting.

If I had the ability to author articles for this site, I could teach a good course on alternative investments; they've outperformed most of Wall Street's paper for decades, and the "taxes" are much better.

In that sense, I guess I am a little jealous of Hedgeless...he's got the platform, but isn't using it to its fullest potential.

hedgeless_horseman's picture

 

So unfair that you are prevented from writing all that compelling content in your mind, and sharing your surefire get-rich schemes with much better "taxes" whatever that means. 

If only you could type whatever you wanted in the comments on this site, then everyone would know how intelligent and successful you really are, and yet still be impressed by your humility and ability to, "keep it real."

Unfortunately, I guess your just stuck making ad hominem attacks.

Skateboarder's picture

California: land of million-dollar homes on pot-holed streets.

D-plorable's picture

That would be me behind enemy lines :(

JesterPSU99's picture

Thanks for comisserating lol

Newsboy's picture

You can get a job and a house here in Texas, but leave your other expectations in California. Have a breakfast taco...

Darktarra's picture

Kalifornians ... stay the FUCK out of my great state of Arizona! Thank you! 

Croesus's picture

Your state would be a lot greater if one of you gave John McCain a good beating.

DFCtomm's picture

Like Mexico it's full of poor with just a smattering of the really, really well off. It's a middle class that they lack, but it's the middle class that is so important to stability and the economy.

USofAzzDownWeGo's picture

i just moved here two weeks ago... yes, tons of mexicans but hardly any niggers at all. What's better, tons of mexicans or tons of niggers everywhere????? Compare San Diego to Detroit, or to Cleveland, or to St. Louis, or to Baltimore... or any other filthy fucking nigger city that's completely ruined. Mexicans don't bother me. 

Mikeyy's picture

That's hilarious. Wasn't it just the other day everybody here was laughing and criticizing California because so many people were leaving?

Turns out it was all the poor dumb fucks and they're now gonna make Texas even dumber and poorer! Ha ha!

migra's picture

I'm packing up my stuff next month to leave San Diego. Its just not worth it here any more. Nevada has no state tax and my income will only drop 10% but housing is 50% cheaper there. Its a no brainer. The only peole who want to stay in California are the really weathly and the ghetto poor. Everybody else is tired of the BS and heading east.