Rand Paul Responds To "Unhinged" McCain

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On the heels of yesterday's McCain meltdown exclaiming that Rand Paul "is now working for Vladimir Putin," the Kentucky Senator released a short statement...

"Currently, the United States has troops in dozens of countries and is actively fighting in Iraq, Syria, Libya, and Yemen (with the occasional drone strike in Pakistan). In addition, the United States is pledged to defend 28 countries in NATO. It is unwise to expand the monetary and military obligations of the United States given the burden of our $20 trillion debt."

And then appeared on MSNBC's 'Morning Joe' to explain...

he did not pull any punches (via RealClearPolitics)...

GEIST: So, Senator, a little context around that. The vote was around putting Montenegro into NATO. What's your reaction to Senator McCain's characterization of your objection?


PAUL: You know, I think he makes a really, really strong case for term limits. I think maybe he's past his prime; I think maybe he's gotten a little bit unhinged.


I do think that when we talk about NATO, there can be a rational discussion about the pros and cons of expanding it. We currently have troops, combat troops, in about six nations. We have troops actively just stationed in probably a couple dozen others. We have a $20 trillion debt. And one of my favorite articles of the last couple years is one that talked about the angry McCains, and if they -- if we put active troops and got involved in combat where McCain wants us to be, they put a little angry McCain on the globe, on the map. And it's virtually everywhere. So his foreign policy is something that would greatly endanger the United States, greatly overextend us. And there has to be the thought whether or not it's in our national interest to pledge to get involved with a war if Montenegro has an altercation with anyone.


There's also another argument, is that when you ask the people of Montenegro, only about 40 percent or slightly less are actually in favor of this. They are close to Russia, they're close to being sort of, like Ukraine, in the transition from Europe to Asia. Perhaps it would be good to be like Switzerland and be more neutral and trade with both.


So, there's a lot of considerations but to call someone somehow an enemy of the state or a traitor might be considered by most reasonable people to be a little over the top.


GEIST: But Senator, you just called John McCain unhinged. You said he was past his prime. Why do you think so many other senators have voted in favor of this measure if it's so crazy?


PAUL: I think that there is a bipartisan consensus that's incorrect that we should have the whole world be in NATO. For example, if we had Ukraine and Georgia in NATO -- and this is something McCain and the other neocons have advocated for -- we would be at war now because Russia has invaded both of them.


And so I think having former satellites or former parts of the Soviet Union is NATO is very provocative. And you have to decide in advance whether you're ready go to war. If you guys are ready to send a million troops into Ukraine and fight World War III, you're going to do it without my support because I think that's a really foolish notion.


GEIST: Do you think, Senator, places like Albania and Croatia then should have been allowed into NATO in 2009?


PAUL: I think it's a real debate how big NATO should be and whether or not it's more provocative than good. And there's also the debate that the president brought up throughout the campaign, and that is we seem to be paying for all of it. Whenever there's a war fought, our soldiers fight it and our dollars pay for it. And so the 45 soldiers that Montenegro has I think are hardly an asset to our national security. And, really, our decisions need to be about our national security. And so I just don't think it enhances our national security to have Montenegro part of NATO.

Paul makes a good point, and as Mike Krieger noted yesterday, the McCain outburst should alarm all Americans. McCain is accusing a fellow Senator of disloyalty and allegiance to a foreign power simply because he disagrees with him. It’s remarkably similar to what we saw Adam Schiff do a few months ago in an embarrassing interview with Tucker Carlson. It seems yelling “Russia” is simply the new strategy for clueless politicians when they can’t win an argument.

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Belrev's picture

McCain accuses Rand Paul of working for Putin.


Looney's picture

Why does John McCain still work?

<<<   Mental hospitals refuse to admit him. They don’t want the Retard to fuck up their “normal” loonies.

<<<   He can’t make ends meet and needs the paycheck.


Ignatius's picture

It's clear McCain has a big infected and cancerous tumor where his head used to be, how come nobody is talking about that?

How to meet John McCain:

"What's a matter, John?"

"What, what do you mean?"

"That thing, that thing on your shoulders... what is that?"

NoDebt's picture

"You know, I think he makes a really, really strong case for term limits. I think maybe he's past his prime; I think maybe he's gotten a little bit unhinged"

PERFECT response.  Couldn't have done better myself.  I'm not even a Rand Paul fan (like his dad a lot better) but that fucker McCain needs to be slapped down HARD.


pliny the longer's picture

totally agree, sort of downplay it, couched in terms of faux concern with some condenscension thrown in for good measure.  well played.


AllTimeWhys's picture

Rand with the RIGHT HOOK.

Son of Loki's picture

MSNBC taunts Rand so badly. The necons control MSNBC just as they sponsor many other subversive networks hand-in-hand with the violent left wing, but for different reason.


It was good to speak the obvious truth, that McStain is unhinged.


erkme73's picture

Rand Paul: "Russia has invaided Ukraine".   Right there.  That's all you need to read to know he's either helplessly clueless, or dangerously deceptive.   Crimea VOTED democratically to join Russia.  

Phuk u's picture

Pideras idi na huy you russian pricks are in Ukraine you know Donbass and as for crimea ask the Tatars how they feel about being fucked over by the russians...Arsehole


beemasters's picture

McCain will not be hurt by Rand Paul's remarks; McCain just needs to be sued for his public accusation of Paul being under Russia's payroll.

espirit's picture

Hey, I'm all for Rand holding McCaine down, sticking a shiv into his ear and the toddler growing out of his face but...

Rand said: "We currently have troops, combat troops, in about six nations. We have troops actively just stationed in probably a couple dozen others."


Who the hell is he kidding? Not me. I have at least 21 digits to count off of.

HowdyDoody's picture

Yo, John, seems like you finally worked how to use the Teh Interweb. Pity it was another wet start.

Chris Dakota's picture
Chris Dakota (not verified) erkme73 Mar 16, 2017 7:30 PM

He knows how far he can go.

You spend all your time here and like places, maybe you don't know how far gone this is.

You called me crazy....hahaha......I know how far gone it is.

RiverRoad's picture

WHY? (the trip to Hawaii)  Because no one knows better than Obama does that ALL phone lines are tapped.  Ipso facto  personal visits are required.

LyLo's picture

Give Rand a little props: he's the junior for KY, for goodness sake.  He's up against Mitch half the time, who owns the political apparatus in the state (Elaine Chao being in Trump's admin is a red flag, btw), and managed to hold his own throughout a Democratic governorship that was/is so pro-Obama it hurts. 

As a resident, I honestly have never been more pleased of a sitting congressman representing me.  Last November was the first time in my life I voted for someone to retain their seat--violating my longstanding pledge to the party of vote-the-bums-out.  And I was friggin' happy as a clam to be able to do it.

MagicalUnicornFarts's picture

Rand blew it when he backed Turtleman over Bevin. 

MagicalUnicornFarts's picture

Rand blew it when he backed Turtleman over Bevin. 

justdues's picture

Rand blew it when he said Russia has invaded Ukraine , a mistake his father would never have made and which plays right into the lying narrative of the likes of McStain.

Jubal Early's picture

Rand Paul is practically the only senator wih at least a shred of honesty.   Imagine if you were senator, and your election had been dependent on you not contradicting the narrative.  You would have spent years parroting state lies, selecting only those issues close to your heart to fight over, and even possibly using the narrative lies to try to illustrate that the narrative is bullshit.

So in this case I cut Rand Paul a little slack...

TwelveOhOne's picture

What he did to his dad in 2012 was unforgettable.  We'll see if it's forgivable.  This was a good move.

Onehundredpercentofnuthin...'s picture

He endorsed Mitt Romney for POTUS. A few people I know that were close to Ron's campaign told me that he (Rand) did it knowing that his father would never get the nomination and there was supposedly a deal made between Rand and Romney to audit the FED. Ron didn't really want to be the POTUS from what I understand. He just wanted to get his message out and used the platform of a presidential campaign for that. And even he would say that it wasn't his message. It was the message of our founders. IMHO, what his son in law, Jesse Benton, who was his campaign manager did was much more despicable. I like Rand, but in his zeal to try and get the big gig. He kissed the ring of the GOPe, a lot of his supporters said that he had to do this to try and climb the ladder. But if he's willing to sell out trying to get there. What will he do if actually elected? I kept saying the same thing about Trump. There is NO political solution to what is wrong with this country sadly. Just my $.02

TwelveOhOne's picture

Exactly.  And what I saw was Rand endorsing Romney before the Republican nomination -- at which a bus full of delegates kept circling in order to avoid the vote outcome that the elite didn't want (IIRC it was to get a certain number of states behind Ron).  I saw validly-elected delegates replaced by the owner of Kowloon's Restaurant on Route 1 northbound in Saugus, MA, and will never eat there again.

2012 ended my "faith in politics as a solution".  Now I'm reading Scripture, and gardening and home-repair books.

Chris Dakota's picture
Chris Dakota (not verified) justdues Mar 16, 2017 7:32 PM

Yeah and his father did so well as a congressman and Presidental candidate.

It's a tightrope with a mass brainwashed public and Jew owned media 100%.

Trump should have taken Rand as VP.

jerseychris's picture

Rand Paul is wrong.  McCain was unhinged when after years of training he couldn't figure out how to get out of his airplane.  Now he's batshit crazy.

QuantumEasing's picture

The Growth prefers to be addressed as Lionel.

Syrin's picture

Anyone ask John ISIS McStain what he was doing in Syria a few weeks ago?

Embrey's picture

McCain's logic is exactly the same as the Hawaiian judge that shot down Trump's temporary immigration ban:
McCain is apparently clairvoyant now since he 'knows' that the reason for Rand Paul's objection to his motion was because he is working for Vladimir Putin. Conversely, the judge 'knows' that President Trump's intent is to ban Muslims rather than the reasons for the ban that were enumerated in the executive order.
The office of the President has the right to curtail any and/or all immigration, illegal or otherwise, by statute and is not subject to legislative or judicial consent. A Senator also has the privilege to object to a motion such as McCain's without explanation.
All the globalist whores are attacking politically while the media gives them cover as if they have a legal argument. Once people recognize that the phony legal arguments are just politics, the swamp will really begin to freak out.

Ghost of PartysOver's picture

All together now ....  Thank You Arizona.

algol_dog's picture

McCain's a fucking relic. He's stuck in a Vietnam era cold war decade. Maybe time he & his friend lindsey graham retire to a military base somewhere.

SgtShaftoe's picture

Nah, I vote for Arlington.

bonderøven-farm ass's picture

McCain doesn't deserve a plot in Arlington.

Robert Trip's picture

"doesn't deserve a plot in Arlington."

How about a plot anywhere, right now?

The Gun Is Good's picture

Send McShame back through basic training, and soap-beat that fucker, a la Full Metal Jacket. Heart attack and end of problem.

mojine's picture

Gitmo first then Arlington 

booboo's picture

That's Linda Graham to you bub

archie bird's picture

Sounds good...how about Syria or Libya?

RiverRoad's picture

McCain's on the Deep State's payroll.  'Splains it all.

JRobby's picture

"Mental hospitals refuse to admit him. They don’t want the Retard to fuck up their “normal” loonies."

I beg to differ by stating 2 things:

1. If you have good insurance, the nut house is happy to "keep you". We know "The Congress" has the best health insurance our tax dollars can buy.

2. Haldol


Haldol is the brand name for haloperidol, an anti-psychotic medicine used to treat mental and mood disorders, including schizophrenia and acute psychosis.

It is often used in emergency room psychiatric situations. It helps reduce aggression, negative thoughts, and the desire to harm someone or oneself.

 It can also help to reduce hallucinations, as well as to treat uncontrolled outbursts related to Tourette's disorder, and it can be used for short periods of time for people who have acute agitation.

political_proxy's picture

Grandpa McCrony will be employed as long as he desires.

johngaltfla's picture

Why does John McCain still work?

Because he's banned from local dog tracks and even Target restrooms where he might expose himself to little boys and girls.

HRClinton's picture

Hmm, McUnhinged somehow isn't catchy.

But McInsane or McShame might be. Even if it's rude to call him that. 

silverserfer's picture

could you change your handle and avatar to an open festering herpes sore? It would look better.

Erek's picture

How about "McPain-in-the-Drain"?

knukles's picture

One of my neighbors had a crazy grandpa once.  He'd lost a testicle on the Canal. 

IridiumRebel's picture

You know Hitler had one ball.

WTFUD's picture

. . the other is in the Albert Hall
his mother, a dirty fucker
she bit it off, when he was small.

Can remember singing that 20 odd years ago.