Is Denmark On The Brink?

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Authored by Erico Matias Tavares via Sinclair & Co.,

Iben Thranholm examines political and social events with focus on their religious aspects, significance and moral implications. She is one of Denmark’s most widely read columnists on such matters. Thranholm is a former editor and radio host at the Danish Broadcasting Corporation (DR), at which she created a religious news program that set a new standard for religious analysis in the newsroom. She has traveled extensively in the Middle East, Italy, the United States and Russia to carry out research and interviews. She has been awarded for her investigative research into Danish media coverage of religious issues.

 

E Tavares: Iben, thank you for being with us today. Over a year ago we talked to Dr. Tino Sanandaji, an economics professor at a leading Swedish university, on the inconsistencies of Swedish immigration policies. The resulting post was hit, revealing a significant interest for this topic. 

In a sense Sweden is the canary in the coalmine of Europe’s demographic future, since they have been at the forefront of this transformation and openly embrace it. Being a close neighbor we would like to get your views on what is happening there, as well as in Denmark. How do the Danes look at Sweden, with hope or apprehension? 

I Tranholm: With absolute horror! 

The Swedish media, which is quite pro-government and its leftwing policies, does not always report the full extent of the problems in their society. So it is hard to have a very accurate picture of what is going on. But we in Denmark have a good sense. We are very aware of the murders, rapes, riots, violence and the hand grenades that go on there. This does not often make the news but we know it is going on. And we don’t want to go down the same route. 

This is the result of decades of policies promoting multiculturalism in Sweden. And what is left is this hollow house. You know, in the Bible it is said that if a house is left swept, tidied and unoccupied it eventually it will be taken over by evil. And I fear that this is what is happening in Sweden. Far from being a multicultural paradise, the problems can no longer remain hidden. 

ET: Indeed, even President Trump made some controversial comments about Sweden at a recent rally in the US, causing an international uproar, with many debates on whether he was right or wrong. Did this cause some discussion in Denmark as well?

IT: It wasn’t much of a discussion because we in Denmark know what is happening in Sweden. Malmo is very close so we only need to go there to see it with our own eyes. 

There was a TV ad partially paid by the Swedish government recommending that all Swedes integrate into this new multicultural society they are creating. Think about that. Even old Swedes now need to adjust to this new reality, instead of immigrants adapting to Swedish society. They call it “Det nya landet”, which means the new country. Traditional Sweden is gone.

ET: Swedes and Danes share many cultural traits. What explains this divergence in opinions? Is it because you do not face the same societal problems? 

IT: We are not as politically correct as the Swedes. So there is a lot of discussion here. (…) As such we have a greater awareness of our heritage and tend to be more protective of it.

Which is not to say we don’t have problems. We do. We face the same identity issues, and our traditions – in particular our Christian heritage – are fast disappearing from our society. That same hollowness is now becoming mainstream in Denmark. And this eliminates much of the arguments to defend ourselves against the importation of foreign values and customs, many of which are at odds with our own. Simply forbidding things will not change this reality. 

ET: And how has integration been? Seems to be going better than other European countries since we don’t hear much about “no-go” zones and riots in your country, unlike France and Sweden, for instance.

IT: We have those problems as well but because Denmark is a small country you won’t hear about them as much. 

We have this belief here that welfare is the solution for everything. No matter who comes here from whatever part of the world will get housing, work, entertainment and healthcare. The government will give those to you with the expectation that if you have all those things you will happily assimilate into Danish society, learn Danish and adapt to our culture. As a result we will become a vibrant multicultural society. 

The reality is quite different. The relativism that this multiculturalism engenders ends up putting different sides of society at odds with each other, especially when their values and beliefs are very different to begin with.

When immigrants come to Denmark they may be taken care of, but they have no dominant culture that they can assimilate into, certainly not in the religious sense. We are completely devoid of God. And as a result they end bringing elements of their culture and religion which often create friction, misunderstandings and also crime. So Danish society becomes more and more divided as a result. 

ET: Politicians seem to be getting the message. Your parliament recently passed legislation to ensure that immigration would never reach a level that would threaten Danish national identity. What do you make of this?

IT: We have a very divided society here as well, even without considering the waves of immigration that have recently settled here. 

Half of the population wants open borders, mass immigration and welfare for all. They reject traditional values and are very much in favor of globalism and multiculturalism. The other half is very much opposed to that, but they lack any persuasive arguments to support that position. All they can do is to forbid immigration, forbid women from wearing a head cloth and so on. 

We no longer have a moral compass. Before, Christianity provided this role, keeping us united over centuries. Now we can no longer distinguish between good and evil, and ultimately this is what this struggle comes down to. Without this any preventive measures like this are just quick fixes that will not solve anything over the longer term. What is needed is a positive alternative in a moral sense. 

ET: Is there any data or independent studies on the benefits and costs of immigration in Denmark? In Sweden for instance this topic is almost taboo, but there are many concerns in terms of finding good employment opportunities for immigrants, coming from the immigrants themselves in fact.

IT: With this new culture we have adopted in the West we stopped having enough children to support our welfare state. So yes, one argument is that we need more people to support it. 

In our own very secular society the state is God. It is supposed to provide and care for everybody. So the economic arguments become less relevant. Of course they are consideration since people are paying for these policies, but in a sense they are secondary.

ET: We are at the cusp of an automation wave that threatens to displace millions of workers across the developed world. This will raise even more concerns regarding mass immigration, which traditionally consists of lower skilled workers. Is there any discussion in Denmark about this?

IT: No. The only discussion is around the cultural aspect, namely the impact on our values and traditions. 

And in a sense this just shows how weak we are. For instance, there are only 250,000 Muslims in Denmark, so a tiny minority. And yet the majority of our political debates focusing on culture over the last ten years have largely revolved around Islam. That’s how weak our culture has become.

So while as an open society there is resistance to women having to cover themselves up, having separate swimming pools for men and women and so forth, we have lost the argument to combat these imported traditions largely because we have lost our Christian roots and values. So over time they will become more prevalent in our society. We are already seeing it.

ET: Secular Muslims may also lose out a result. Many cherish Western values but will increasingly find a native society that is at odds with them, as their own communities become more extremist. Many complain that the Islam in Denmark and other European countries is more hardcore or even radical than in their home countries.

IT: That is true. And again that is largely a result of this cultural hesitation in the societies that host them. As a result, those more aggressive forms gain more ground to the detriment of everyone, especially women. 

ET: Much of the developing world faces a difficult situation and undoubtedly the countries that can help should. Let’s face it, faulty Western foreign policies have made bad situations even worse across much of the Middle East, although other very important sectarian and ethnic conflicts play a large role as well. 

There are those who suggest that instead of opening the borders this help should be provided at the origin, which would be cheaper and thus could help many more people, would place refugees closer to their homes and avoid many of the social problems we are unfortunately seeing across Europe – caused by a minority to be sure, but still very problematic. What do Danish politicians think about this?

IT: That would be logical in many ways, but again the debate is not economical. People want to be perceived as doing good, meaning opening their communities, welcoming and caring for others. 

I would be in favor of that if we were talking about women and their children, even families. But the reality is different. The majority of people we have welcomed in recent years, especially following the migrant crisis, are fit young men. They bring their conflicts and their frustrations with them, creating a difficult environment for everyone. 

So yes, arguably it would be more efficient to provide care at the source but this is not how the debate is framed.

ET: Denmark is supposedly the happiest country on the planet. But you have little reason to be happy these days as you find yourself on the receiving end of government censorship, not only for expressing your concerns about the future of your country but also for working for a Russian news outlet. What happened here? You recently wrote a powerful piece about this, expressing your feelings not only as a woman who does not toe the party line but especially as a Christian. 

IT: In 2015 I wrote an article criticizing our politicians who for the most part hate Christianity but nevertheless use Christian values, especially charity and compassion, to promote their own agendas, in particular mass immigration. So I called them out on that.

A few months later I got a call from a politician here who told me that I was on a government blacklist, supposedly acting as a pro-Russian propagandist agent, despite having absolutely no evidence to that effect. I occasionally work for a Russian news outlet, but that’s simply my job as a journalist. 

Today, in a society where supposedly there is freedom of speech, if politicians want to silence their critics they simply accuse them of working for the Kremlin, or having some unexplained ties with Russia. That is what happened to me, and it also happening to high profile politicians and journalists in the US, France and Germany. If you don’t agree with the multicultural policies of Europe then you are labeled a Russian agent. Which is really a form of political or character assassination. 

They are so afraid of the rise of what leftist politicians in Europe call “populism”, which threaten the existence of their beloved European Union. And this year the stakes are very high with elections in France and Germany. So they resort to these kinds of tactics to quash any dissenters. 

So I find myself in a blacklist in a supposedly free country like Denmark, but if a conflict with Russia emerges I can end up in prison under the pretext of being a foreign agent. Again, with no proof and no judicial process. This is very much how totalitarian societies operate. First they put you on a list, then when there is a problem or a made-up reason they will come for you.

ET: You were only expressing views that are consistent with those of many conservatives on both sides of the Atlantic. There are certainly many people concerned about the future of Western societies. In many ways this evokes memories of the Soviet Union, and the great new society they tried to create, with the disastrous consequences we all know.

That is actually a very real and concerning comparison. After all, communism was a Western idea and it was imposed on Russia, they did not create it. And it did not die with the collapse of the Soviet Union. On the contrary, it is still very much alive and roaming around our continent. While it operates differently, the goals are not too dissimilar. The version we have spreading across the West is Cultural Marxism.

We no longer have families, religion, even genders. In Sweden now they have invented a gender neutral term to address little boys and girls at kindergarten. This is a complete change from traditional Western values that have kept Europe safe from outside invasion for centuries. And this is now gone. 

All this talk of multiculturalism and open borders sounds very nice, but in practice it has led to a progressive transformation of our societies, and as Sweden shows not for the better. Less freedoms, less safety, less cohesion; more crime, more fragmentation, more social problems. It really is a struggle of good versus evil, and we in the West can no longer distinguish between the two. I would even call it diabolical disorientation. 

ET: So how long you think before the Christian cross is removed from your flag? And how does the Danish monarchy, which is sworn to protect Danish culture and religion, feel about all of this?

IT: No European politician will stand up for Christianity. Nobody. Expect from perhaps Hungarian Prime Minister, Victor Orbán. 

There is this unholy alliance between the left and radical Islam. Many Europeans have such a disdain for their own traditions that they would prefer to see Christianity being eradicated even if it might cost their way of life and even personal freedoms in the end. 

We have this bizarre situation where Western feminists support women having to wear a head cloth, along with foregoing many of the rights they should be able to enjoy in our countries. And these women often get penalized by their own communities when they try to assimilate into our society, while the feminists stay quiet. It is all very multicultural and good.

ET: You know Russia well as part of your work. Can you contrast what is happening there relative to the transformation taking place across much of Western Europe?

Believe it or not, we have swapped lanes. Now it is Russia who is adopting Christianity as the West gets rid of it by any means possible. 

Christianity runs very deep in Russia: in their literature, in their arts, in their culture. When the Soviets brutally tried to suppress it, at the cost of countless lives, it survived underground. People still celebrated it in secrecy, performing baptisms and the like behind closed doors. 

President Putin recently inaugurated an enormous statue of St. Vladimir, the patron saint of the Russian Orthodox Church, about 100 yards from the Kremlin walls. If you stand at a certain point across the street from the Kremlin, the cross that he bears is even taller than the star in the Red Square, so the symbolism is very potent. 

In the West, as we discussed, we are going the other way. We can’t discard our values and heritage fast enough. 

ET: There was a 2014 Russian movie, Leviathan, which alluded to this transformation. However it put Orthodox Christianity in a less positive light, essentially being used as an ideological argument to justify the power of the oligarchs in society. President Putin is certainly no saint. Isn’t this all just superficial?

IT: There are people in Russia who are also opposed to their own traditional values and who want a more Westernized Russia. I have not seen that movie so I can’t say if the director supports that view or not. 

People need to go to Russia and see it for themselves. President Putin is only responding to what is happening there and he respects the Russian people’s faith in Orthodoxy.

This is one of the reasons why I believe the West hate the Russians so much. They cannot tolerate the thought of having a resurgent and powerful Christian Russia who openly rejects their Cultural Marxism. And accordingly they demonized it in much of our media and political circles.

ET: So, is Denmark on the brink? Indeed, is the rest of Europe on the brink?

IT: Yes, Denmark is on the brink. And Europe is on the brink. We completely lost our culture, our values and our moral compass. What used to be good is now evil and vice-versa. 

You mentioned Denmark being the happiest country in the world but I am not sure that is true. We have high alcohol consumption and about half a million people on happy pills for a reason. 

Channel 1, our main TV channel here, recently aired a documentary on three Danish girls who converted to Islam out of their own will, not because they got married or anything like that. They all had the same background, coming from broken homes, dealing with alcoholism and so forth – basically part of the legacy of the 1968 revolution we had across Europe. What these girls lacked was structure, and they found it in Islam because it regulates all aspects of your life: how you dress, what you eat, with whom you can socialize with, how to pray, how to interact as a wife and so on. 

That is what the right-wing parties in Europe don’t understand. This is a spiritual battle. There is no political freedom without spiritual freedom. If you go around just forbidding things, like don’t wear the head cloth and so forth, it will not work. Our civilization will gradually disappear.

The only thing that can save Europe right now is a true spiritual, dare I say Christian, revival across the Continent. This played a significant role in the demise of communism in the Soviet Union and East Germany. The churches there provided hidden venues for people to congregate, express ideas and share their faith and hardships.

Since its inception Christianity was always about fighting evil with love, prayer and faith because these three are the key to freedom. And these are the values that the radical left and radical Islam do not tolerate, because of course both demand total obedience to the state and their conception of God, respectively. 

ET: Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts and your courage. You deserve to be in the cover of a magazine, not on some government blacklist. Wish you all the best.

IT: Thank you.

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French Bloke's picture

Enough already. Like it or not the USA and Europe are both deep in the shit. Millions of refugees are entering Europe at the point of a gun thanks to USA and European policies in the ME. Stop meddling there and this would not be happening.

Of course, our politico’s tell us we need higher numbers to pay for the next generations pensions and increased GDP. This is flawed. The first issue is that there aren’t enough jobs available for the indigenous (unless you count zero hours low paid work) so any immigrant that comes is a direct drain on the state through welfare, or indirectly if they take a job from from an indigenous person.

The second issue is also obvious – at which point will we be forced to stop this madness due to their being insufficient resources available to continue this deathly spiral? When do we admit we’ve concreted over all of the beautiful countryside and there is nowhere to go to relax and enjoy any calm? If you have been to the UK you’ll know that there are fewer and fewer places you can go where you won’t see hundreds of others all trying to do the same thing which rather defeats the object.

Why does nobody appear to see that a lowering population is a sign of economic stagnation and not necessarily a bad thing under the circumstances?

Solution

1)      Stop immigration and allow the indigenous to continue working for the best that they can get unhindered by cheap foreign labour

2)      Cease government funding of welfare and pensions (difficult to imagine for those who have become dependent but could work if jobs are there) and make people accountable for their own retirement provision

Method – Return to the gold standard and low tax economies allowing people to put a share of their hard earned away for retirement with a tangible source of income in later years. (Let’s be honest, the paper Ponzi pensions invested in Wall St and the City are not going to be worth jot in 10 years time. I’ve encouraged my kids not to pay a penny into the pensions scam but take personal responsibility and do it outside of the system)

Without government intervention, the marketplace would correct and an increase in living standards would ensue thus incentivising people to have larger families. This is a natural economic cycle. The elites are using this downturn as an opportunity to impose social engineering on a scale never seen in the history of mankind and ensure we lose our identity, have no roots and make us more malleable.

It really does not have to be this way

 

Macavity's picture

Lovely. First you/we've got to deal with the power dynamics. Parasites are global: achieving a stable return on real capital in a diminishing national real economy is anathema to their raison d'être...as nominal returns would be negative.

I don't think gold solves anything, sadly. Outlawing usury (Islamic definition being any interest at all, but you've also got to address NIRP and a receding national economy) might improve things. Truly free, unmanipulated markets might work, too. Bit of a strange, uber-manipulated kerfuffle where anything and everything that can be monetised or brought from the future to the current day is fair game and "makes good economic sense." My fecking arse.

When you say...

"Why does nobody appear to see that a lowering population is a sign of economic stagnation and not necessarily a bad thing under the circumstances?"

...think about the global parasitic class. Good advice to your kids.

Chris Dakota's picture
Chris Dakota (not verified) Macavity Mar 19, 2017 10:11 AM

I used to work on a Norwegian cruise ship in the early 80s. I had a boyfriend from Norway, I went home with him and I said "You don't see any strange people here." He said "they are all locked up, including the mentally retarded."

I couldn't believe it, and so matter of fact. I had to leave and come back to California. Everyone was all in line and marching FORWARD!

compassionate Scandinavians.

what a joke this has all been, they aren't liberal they are fascists.

 

Killdo's picture

anyone religious does not understand freedom either

it's mutually incompatible to slvishly and fearfully  worship an invisible master and to even understand what it means to be free. 

I think Europeans understand freedom a bit better than Americans (they are temporarily confused from watching too much Hollywood shit on TV)

I think Americans are not just the most slavish in their mentality , but also by far most abused by their own government (or shoudl I say corporations).They are treated like shit. You can tell by how obedient to traffic lights they are when trying to cross a streat. In Europe, Latin America, Japan - everyone woudl cross if there are no cars regardless of what the stupid traffic light says - not in the USSA - everyone, young, old..patiently and slavishly waits for the green light even if there are no cars anywhere...

Even when I fly aboraad - pretty much all the foreign  airlines I've used give you much more knee space than Delta or United (while having much less obese people to deal with) , or the toxic additives in food (many are illegalin EU) plus here the actual Big Food writes their own laws about what's safe or not. Monsantos 'proof' that GMO is safe was a 90-day study on rats (a sutudy which coudl not even be recreated  - the rats got all kinds of diseases and after a year or 2 they got cancers). That's what passes as 'science' in 21st century America

Slavery has never left the USSA - it has  just been  extraploated it on everyone else

Macavity's picture

To quote David Bowie, "I'm afraid of Americans." Yanks are lovely. Big Gov/Big Biz are frightening. Food and water are dangerous or poisonous.

That said, the Founding Fathers understood and were able to reconcile Freedom and a largely Christian populace. What have we forgotten?

Squid-puppets a-go-go's picture

Last week a Swedish politician said they need to rehouse and intergrate returning ISIS fighters. No shit.

If that is the position of a minister of the Swedish Caliphate we need to cut off diplomatic ties with Sweden until/unless they see sense

X- x3's picture

Take a look at your "a Swedish politician said".

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Alice+Bah+Kunke&t=ffcm&ia=web

That should answer anyone's question.

X-

Obadiah's picture

Damm hot Christian chicks!!!!!... are there any HOTTER??   

HockeyFool's picture

Yep, lots of them. Go to church on Sunday and see for yourself.

Jon Bong Jovi's picture

I love church girls. Dated one in my youth, we couldn't have vaginal sex, she wanted to hang on to her virginity. She was a backdoor champ. I'm long and strong, it's time to get the friction on...

c0nan's picture

And why do we accept this? We know who is behind it all (watch the video), so why are they living in peace when we are not? Know the truth, the real truth, and you will be free from the mental bondage you are in, and then free to act: https://youtu.be/ER9Ul_ostZ8

flaunt's picture

It always ends up being the latter, because white people as cucked and "nice" as they are have a breaking point. 

rtb61's picture

Not doomed at all. Unfortunately normal cyclic political activity. People forget the bad decisions of the past, forget to pay respect to history and repeat those bad decision. There is a period of troublesome sociopolitical fallout and this gives rise to significant opposition, sometimes just as bad as what triggered it, kind of a snapped stretched steel cable thing.

So they got carried away with political correctness and a rush of power and made some really bad decisions, now will come the big push against political correctness and it will be quite violent, this violence brought on the the negative violent impacts of those bad decisions. The political twonks will try to block it, but it will just build up and become more violent in the end.

So the current bad choices in migrants will serverly impact long term existing migrants, the EU, will take quite a political beating but not as much as the migrants who get tossed out, it will get quite rough in the end and will spread throughout Europe. There is not doubt that many of those migrants are unsuited to living in more modern socially connected societies, as a result of cultural practices, education and genetics (the last one is a tough one to claim but it is true, it is just the way it is, wishing it is not, is quite foolish).

Not all migrants are going to contribute to the society they join and the failure in Europe was a failure to vet the immigrants to ensure they were capable of assimilating to the culture they were joining. It seems very much like a group of European Politicians were blackmailed into making decisions they knew were wrong by the US deep state, using material garnered by the NSA and CIA but all those corrupt politcians will now be replaced as a result, so nothing was gained, just chaos was sown and the US will reap the consequences.

BobEore's picture

Though the "West" indeed be "doomed," it doesn't (necesarily) follow that the "white people" who live there are.

"We," of the deficient melatonin & colorful pupils mutations, the light tints of hair and inveterate genius in finding ways to ferment plants into euphoriants... have lived in many different places, at different times in our history. Sometimes at peace with neighbors, most often in a state of permanent war.

Sometimes submerged under waves of relentless invasion- to disappear, like the Tocharians of Kucha, forever, more often to bob back to the surface as contenders in whatever local contest for dominance was going down. To live in the West is not be be "westerners" in any genetic or innately cultural sense. Whether "we" started out from the Caucaus, Siberia, the steppes of Kazan or the Balkan peaks, we knew Asia when most "Asians" as we use the term today were neither living where they are today, nor ethnically consolidated into the forms which are supposed constant and immutable in time.

Domesticators of the horse, techno-junkies who needed to not just invent the wheel,[chinese probably did that] but make it perform functions of economic value, forge weapons and tools that gave  an 'edge' in more senses than one, "we" couldn't stop long enough in one place to ever become integrated into the surrounding cultures and then lost to our own sense of unique destiny.

If that's to be lost now, it won't be because of any dictate of 'fate' nor fortune, but rather -  due to the mistake of staying too long in one place, confusing 'home' with where the hearth is, rather than the heart. The very heart of 'our' longevity, inventiveness and staying power was always the desire to see what lay over that next hill, across that sea, be bold enough to explore terrain that otthers shrank from in fear. Empires come and go - a people survives on it's dreams of new pastures, not ruined castles.

Fearlessness - another genetic 'deficiency' welded to our being. Fearless in action and character, not made so by stories of 70 virgins or endless paradise, hardwired to be needless of cheap iinducement, those who preceded us had no instinct to shrink back from what life handed them, or what survival demanded. Being conquered is a state of mind. Freedom is only found in mobility, and fluidity of thinking. A birthright is always lost by choice.

Yes, America, and the rest of the west are "doomed." Long live those bold enough to leave the burning wreckage, and may you prosper in your wanderings - as the boldest usually do.

Teja's picture

Yes, absolutely low IQ. Thats obviously why the US academic levels are so low - too many foreigners, with more than 50% of PhD students coming from abroad, most from 3rd world countries or countries overrun by muslims, like all of Europe. Please throw out those PhD students as soon as possible, this will raise your scientific levels to the sky.

 

Dancing Disraeli's picture

Just the Hispanix.  Not too many Doctoral candidates in that cohort, alas.

Killdo's picture

I studied at Imerial College in London (it was rated 2nd best in the world a couple of years ago). 

About 40% of my class were English, the rest were all foreigners many Indians, Chinese and the most cleaver of us all was a black guy from Africa. He understood everything immediately and was a really nice guy and shared his knowledge with everyone  (unlike the not-so bright English students). 

Reichstag Fire Dept.'s picture

I'm not so sure Denmark is doomed...they are far more "bad ass" then Sweden and have closer ties to their aristocracy. That could be a good thing in this case...

BingoBoggins's picture

Homogenous. . Not just just your ordinary sexual preference.

shamus001's picture

If Europe can be converted to ISLAM, then the people at the TOP of the EU can be Islamic leaders, and COMMAND THEIR EU SUBJECTS with violent force!  Christianity puts too many BRAKES on their EVIL DOINGS & PLANS!

BingoBoggins's picture

Chess, anyone? How about you? Mr. Death!?

X- x3's picture

No, not quite.

What we really need is less........dots.....dots.....connecting the dots...

Did you miss, "The Swedish media, which is quite pro-government and its leftwing policies, does not always report the full extent of the problems in their society. So......"

WE need everyone to know that the largest msm-media concern in Sweden & Scandinavia is .......the (((Bonnier Group))), owned by the (((Bonnier Family))).


Bonnier family - Wikipedia

"The Bonnier family is a Swedish family of Jewish origin, who since the beginning of the 19th century has been active in the book industry and later also in the mass ..."

Bonnier Group - Wikipedia

"Bonnier AB (Swedish pronunciation: [?b?n?ni?r]; also the Bonnier Group) is a privately held Swedish media group of 175 companies operating in 15 countries..."

Obadiah's picture

Damm can it BE ANYMORE EVIDENT??

HowdyDoody's picture

For many ZH'ers, yes, it needs to be mpore evident.

GooseShtepping Moron's picture

If anybody is still on the fence, just trust me. You're going to feel a hell of a lot better once you go full fash.

Ms No's picture

Hitler was funded by the Warburgs and a bunch of other Wall Street types.  He also spoke quite a bit about creating "a New Order".  We have heard much about that from countless presidents including Hitler's Buddies the Bush Family.  They all used the term New World Order but Obama used Hitler's term "New Order".  Maybe he thought he was fooling somebody.

Hitler was also into mediums, channeling and had that weird ass Thule society that branched off the Rosicrucians.  All kinds of séance cooks were in his circle.  Then they ran around the world trying to grab weird spiritual artifacts.  They fit in with the spirit cooker New World Order types pretty well.  They all had the same funding so why not? 

 

X- x3's picture

With regards to Hitler & Jews, did you know;

1- Hitler's personal physican, cook were jewish?

2- As many as 150,000 jews served in Hitler's army?

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=150%2C000+jewish+wermacht+nazi+army&t=ffcm&ia=...


3- Ever hear of the Haavara Agreement-Transfer Agreement :

"...was an agreement between Nazi Germany and Zionist German Jews signed on 25 August 1933. The agreement was finalized after three months of talks by the Zionist Federation of Germany, the Anglo-Palestine Bank (under the directive of the Jewish Agency) and the economic authorities of Nazi Germany. It was a major factor in making possible the immigration of approximately 60,000 German Jews to Palestine in 1933–1939.[1]...."

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=haavara+agreement+nazi+jew&t=ffcm&ia=web

 

For the truly inquistive, try starting with this:

https://www.youtube.com/user/TheRapeOfJustice

The Rothschilds, Hitler, Holocaust, Israel & Zionist World Government TheRapeOfJustice
44magnum's picture

"For while the Zionists try to make the rest of the world believe that the national consciousness of the Jew finds its satisfaction in the creation of a Palestinian state, the Jews again slyly dupe the dumb Goyim.

It doesn't even enter their heads to build up a Jewish state in Palestine for the purpose of living there; all they want is a central organization for their international world swindle, endowed with its own sovereign rights and removed from the intervention of other states: a haven for convicted scoundrels and a university for budding crooks." -- MEIN KAMPF,

ffed's picture

You can also use math to disprove certain ideas...I believe it takes around an hour to cremate a dead person, and you will still need to crush up the bones.....Oh and to cremate a person you will require a significant  amount  of  fuel...

land_of_the_few's picture

"Hitler was also into mediums"..... the Reagans were into Astrologers.

 

44magnum's picture

You were alive then and talked to him?

Ms No's picture

Trying to cut and paste old PDFs in here and then make them readable is a joke.  Never mind I give up.  Hopefully this blank post isn't a whole thread long.

44magnum's picture

Lame excuse, use a different reader.

BingoBoggins's picture

Get with the program - come in for the big win.

flaunt's picture

I'm starting to understand the whole Jewish thing.  It's just like every other minority group trying desperately to make whites a minority group in their own countries. Not every single one of them is working to undermine us, but the vast majority leading the charge are. It's like with the muslims. Not every one of them is blowing shit up and shooting us, but damn if the vast majority blowing shit up and shooting us aren't muslims. IT'S A PATTERN PEOPLE. STOP BEING TALKED OUT OF COMMON SENSE!  That headache that won't go away is your brain telling you something isn't right... Listen!

brianshell's picture

Since both islam and judaism endorse deceit and subterfuge as holy tools to further their agendas, it seems the zionists are more capable in their craft.

On the other hand, the islamists are far more numerous and violent.

 

 

philipat's picture

And I think the Jews are smart enough to recognise that if Islam does take over (Deliberately planned by the Jews according to the intellectuals above) their days would be even more numbered than during the holocaust. Christian white males, by comparison, wouldn't seem so bad? Duh......

Northern Flicker's picture

If you want to understand the "whole Jewish thing" go back and investigate the Israeli involvement in 9-11.  Hint: it wasn't a bunch Arabs that were arrested and later released.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCkeAIQJykk

brianshell's picture

O/T My furnace was making strange noises, rat ta tat and chirp chirp. The repair man couldn't find anything. Then I caught a Northern flicker pecking at my chimney pipe.

The Onion Of Twickenham's picture

So let me get this right - the Jews are responsible for the Islamization of Europe?

LA_Goldbug's picture

Hell, Specter in Sweden is NOT hiding it. What do you think Soros is doing ? You can make excellent money on conflict. Weapons, prisons, policing, hospitalization, selling pills, selling drugs to despondent ......

44magnum's picture

Its a great pressure relief valve, the patsy. It takes the pressure of them as they work in the background.

Koba the Dread's picture

If so, she needs better than you could supply.

IridiumRebel's picture

Jeebus Christmas is was a fucking joke I thought of spur of the moment.
Yes Europe is doomed but can I anonymously admire a beautiful Danish woman and make a stupid remark? Lighten up.

BingoBoggins's picture

Her eyes mock you. Challenging ...

IridiumRebel's picture

The moon hangs low in the sky like a testical.