Is Denmark On The Brink?

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Authored by Erico Matias Tavares via Sinclair & Co.,

Iben Thranholm examines political and social events with focus on their religious aspects, significance and moral implications. She is one of Denmark’s most widely read columnists on such matters. Thranholm is a former editor and radio host at the Danish Broadcasting Corporation (DR), at which she created a religious news program that set a new standard for religious analysis in the newsroom. She has traveled extensively in the Middle East, Italy, the United States and Russia to carry out research and interviews. She has been awarded for her investigative research into Danish media coverage of religious issues.

 

E Tavares: Iben, thank you for being with us today. Over a year ago we talked to Dr. Tino Sanandaji, an economics professor at a leading Swedish university, on the inconsistencies of Swedish immigration policies. The resulting post was hit, revealing a significant interest for this topic. 

In a sense Sweden is the canary in the coalmine of Europe’s demographic future, since they have been at the forefront of this transformation and openly embrace it. Being a close neighbor we would like to get your views on what is happening there, as well as in Denmark. How do the Danes look at Sweden, with hope or apprehension? 

I Tranholm: With absolute horror! 

The Swedish media, which is quite pro-government and its leftwing policies, does not always report the full extent of the problems in their society. So it is hard to have a very accurate picture of what is going on. But we in Denmark have a good sense. We are very aware of the murders, rapes, riots, violence and the hand grenades that go on there. This does not often make the news but we know it is going on. And we don’t want to go down the same route. 

This is the result of decades of policies promoting multiculturalism in Sweden. And what is left is this hollow house. You know, in the Bible it is said that if a house is left swept, tidied and unoccupied it eventually it will be taken over by evil. And I fear that this is what is happening in Sweden. Far from being a multicultural paradise, the problems can no longer remain hidden. 

ET: Indeed, even President Trump made some controversial comments about Sweden at a recent rally in the US, causing an international uproar, with many debates on whether he was right or wrong. Did this cause some discussion in Denmark as well?

IT: It wasn’t much of a discussion because we in Denmark know what is happening in Sweden. Malmo is very close so we only need to go there to see it with our own eyes. 

There was a TV ad partially paid by the Swedish government recommending that all Swedes integrate into this new multicultural society they are creating. Think about that. Even old Swedes now need to adjust to this new reality, instead of immigrants adapting to Swedish society. They call it “Det nya landet”, which means the new country. Traditional Sweden is gone.

ET: Swedes and Danes share many cultural traits. What explains this divergence in opinions? Is it because you do not face the same societal problems? 

IT: We are not as politically correct as the Swedes. So there is a lot of discussion here. (…) As such we have a greater awareness of our heritage and tend to be more protective of it.

Which is not to say we don’t have problems. We do. We face the same identity issues, and our traditions – in particular our Christian heritage – are fast disappearing from our society. That same hollowness is now becoming mainstream in Denmark. And this eliminates much of the arguments to defend ourselves against the importation of foreign values and customs, many of which are at odds with our own. Simply forbidding things will not change this reality. 

ET: And how has integration been? Seems to be going better than other European countries since we don’t hear much about “no-go” zones and riots in your country, unlike France and Sweden, for instance.

IT: We have those problems as well but because Denmark is a small country you won’t hear about them as much. 

We have this belief here that welfare is the solution for everything. No matter who comes here from whatever part of the world will get housing, work, entertainment and healthcare. The government will give those to you with the expectation that if you have all those things you will happily assimilate into Danish society, learn Danish and adapt to our culture. As a result we will become a vibrant multicultural society. 

The reality is quite different. The relativism that this multiculturalism engenders ends up putting different sides of society at odds with each other, especially when their values and beliefs are very different to begin with.

When immigrants come to Denmark they may be taken care of, but they have no dominant culture that they can assimilate into, certainly not in the religious sense. We are completely devoid of God. And as a result they end bringing elements of their culture and religion which often create friction, misunderstandings and also crime. So Danish society becomes more and more divided as a result. 

ET: Politicians seem to be getting the message. Your parliament recently passed legislation to ensure that immigration would never reach a level that would threaten Danish national identity. What do you make of this?

IT: We have a very divided society here as well, even without considering the waves of immigration that have recently settled here. 

Half of the population wants open borders, mass immigration and welfare for all. They reject traditional values and are very much in favor of globalism and multiculturalism. The other half is very much opposed to that, but they lack any persuasive arguments to support that position. All they can do is to forbid immigration, forbid women from wearing a head cloth and so on. 

We no longer have a moral compass. Before, Christianity provided this role, keeping us united over centuries. Now we can no longer distinguish between good and evil, and ultimately this is what this struggle comes down to. Without this any preventive measures like this are just quick fixes that will not solve anything over the longer term. What is needed is a positive alternative in a moral sense. 

ET: Is there any data or independent studies on the benefits and costs of immigration in Denmark? In Sweden for instance this topic is almost taboo, but there are many concerns in terms of finding good employment opportunities for immigrants, coming from the immigrants themselves in fact.

IT: With this new culture we have adopted in the West we stopped having enough children to support our welfare state. So yes, one argument is that we need more people to support it. 

In our own very secular society the state is God. It is supposed to provide and care for everybody. So the economic arguments become less relevant. Of course they are consideration since people are paying for these policies, but in a sense they are secondary.

ET: We are at the cusp of an automation wave that threatens to displace millions of workers across the developed world. This will raise even more concerns regarding mass immigration, which traditionally consists of lower skilled workers. Is there any discussion in Denmark about this?

IT: No. The only discussion is around the cultural aspect, namely the impact on our values and traditions. 

And in a sense this just shows how weak we are. For instance, there are only 250,000 Muslims in Denmark, so a tiny minority. And yet the majority of our political debates focusing on culture over the last ten years have largely revolved around Islam. That’s how weak our culture has become.

So while as an open society there is resistance to women having to cover themselves up, having separate swimming pools for men and women and so forth, we have lost the argument to combat these imported traditions largely because we have lost our Christian roots and values. So over time they will become more prevalent in our society. We are already seeing it.

ET: Secular Muslims may also lose out a result. Many cherish Western values but will increasingly find a native society that is at odds with them, as their own communities become more extremist. Many complain that the Islam in Denmark and other European countries is more hardcore or even radical than in their home countries.

IT: That is true. And again that is largely a result of this cultural hesitation in the societies that host them. As a result, those more aggressive forms gain more ground to the detriment of everyone, especially women. 

ET: Much of the developing world faces a difficult situation and undoubtedly the countries that can help should. Let’s face it, faulty Western foreign policies have made bad situations even worse across much of the Middle East, although other very important sectarian and ethnic conflicts play a large role as well. 

There are those who suggest that instead of opening the borders this help should be provided at the origin, which would be cheaper and thus could help many more people, would place refugees closer to their homes and avoid many of the social problems we are unfortunately seeing across Europe – caused by a minority to be sure, but still very problematic. What do Danish politicians think about this?

IT: That would be logical in many ways, but again the debate is not economical. People want to be perceived as doing good, meaning opening their communities, welcoming and caring for others. 

I would be in favor of that if we were talking about women and their children, even families. But the reality is different. The majority of people we have welcomed in recent years, especially following the migrant crisis, are fit young men. They bring their conflicts and their frustrations with them, creating a difficult environment for everyone. 

So yes, arguably it would be more efficient to provide care at the source but this is not how the debate is framed.

ET: Denmark is supposedly the happiest country on the planet. But you have little reason to be happy these days as you find yourself on the receiving end of government censorship, not only for expressing your concerns about the future of your country but also for working for a Russian news outlet. What happened here? You recently wrote a powerful piece about this, expressing your feelings not only as a woman who does not toe the party line but especially as a Christian. 

IT: In 2015 I wrote an article criticizing our politicians who for the most part hate Christianity but nevertheless use Christian values, especially charity and compassion, to promote their own agendas, in particular mass immigration. So I called them out on that.

A few months later I got a call from a politician here who told me that I was on a government blacklist, supposedly acting as a pro-Russian propagandist agent, despite having absolutely no evidence to that effect. I occasionally work for a Russian news outlet, but that’s simply my job as a journalist. 

Today, in a society where supposedly there is freedom of speech, if politicians want to silence their critics they simply accuse them of working for the Kremlin, or having some unexplained ties with Russia. That is what happened to me, and it also happening to high profile politicians and journalists in the US, France and Germany. If you don’t agree with the multicultural policies of Europe then you are labeled a Russian agent. Which is really a form of political or character assassination. 

They are so afraid of the rise of what leftist politicians in Europe call “populism”, which threaten the existence of their beloved European Union. And this year the stakes are very high with elections in France and Germany. So they resort to these kinds of tactics to quash any dissenters. 

So I find myself in a blacklist in a supposedly free country like Denmark, but if a conflict with Russia emerges I can end up in prison under the pretext of being a foreign agent. Again, with no proof and no judicial process. This is very much how totalitarian societies operate. First they put you on a list, then when there is a problem or a made-up reason they will come for you.

ET: You were only expressing views that are consistent with those of many conservatives on both sides of the Atlantic. There are certainly many people concerned about the future of Western societies. In many ways this evokes memories of the Soviet Union, and the great new society they tried to create, with the disastrous consequences we all know.

That is actually a very real and concerning comparison. After all, communism was a Western idea and it was imposed on Russia, they did not create it. And it did not die with the collapse of the Soviet Union. On the contrary, it is still very much alive and roaming around our continent. While it operates differently, the goals are not too dissimilar. The version we have spreading across the West is Cultural Marxism.

We no longer have families, religion, even genders. In Sweden now they have invented a gender neutral term to address little boys and girls at kindergarten. This is a complete change from traditional Western values that have kept Europe safe from outside invasion for centuries. And this is now gone. 

All this talk of multiculturalism and open borders sounds very nice, but in practice it has led to a progressive transformation of our societies, and as Sweden shows not for the better. Less freedoms, less safety, less cohesion; more crime, more fragmentation, more social problems. It really is a struggle of good versus evil, and we in the West can no longer distinguish between the two. I would even call it diabolical disorientation. 

ET: So how long you think before the Christian cross is removed from your flag? And how does the Danish monarchy, which is sworn to protect Danish culture and religion, feel about all of this?

IT: No European politician will stand up for Christianity. Nobody. Expect from perhaps Hungarian Prime Minister, Victor Orbán. 

There is this unholy alliance between the left and radical Islam. Many Europeans have such a disdain for their own traditions that they would prefer to see Christianity being eradicated even if it might cost their way of life and even personal freedoms in the end. 

We have this bizarre situation where Western feminists support women having to wear a head cloth, along with foregoing many of the rights they should be able to enjoy in our countries. And these women often get penalized by their own communities when they try to assimilate into our society, while the feminists stay quiet. It is all very multicultural and good.

ET: You know Russia well as part of your work. Can you contrast what is happening there relative to the transformation taking place across much of Western Europe?

Believe it or not, we have swapped lanes. Now it is Russia who is adopting Christianity as the West gets rid of it by any means possible. 

Christianity runs very deep in Russia: in their literature, in their arts, in their culture. When the Soviets brutally tried to suppress it, at the cost of countless lives, it survived underground. People still celebrated it in secrecy, performing baptisms and the like behind closed doors. 

President Putin recently inaugurated an enormous statue of St. Vladimir, the patron saint of the Russian Orthodox Church, about 100 yards from the Kremlin walls. If you stand at a certain point across the street from the Kremlin, the cross that he bears is even taller than the star in the Red Square, so the symbolism is very potent. 

In the West, as we discussed, we are going the other way. We can’t discard our values and heritage fast enough. 

ET: There was a 2014 Russian movie, Leviathan, which alluded to this transformation. However it put Orthodox Christianity in a less positive light, essentially being used as an ideological argument to justify the power of the oligarchs in society. President Putin is certainly no saint. Isn’t this all just superficial?

IT: There are people in Russia who are also opposed to their own traditional values and who want a more Westernized Russia. I have not seen that movie so I can’t say if the director supports that view or not. 

People need to go to Russia and see it for themselves. President Putin is only responding to what is happening there and he respects the Russian people’s faith in Orthodoxy.

This is one of the reasons why I believe the West hate the Russians so much. They cannot tolerate the thought of having a resurgent and powerful Christian Russia who openly rejects their Cultural Marxism. And accordingly they demonized it in much of our media and political circles.

ET: So, is Denmark on the brink? Indeed, is the rest of Europe on the brink?

IT: Yes, Denmark is on the brink. And Europe is on the brink. We completely lost our culture, our values and our moral compass. What used to be good is now evil and vice-versa. 

You mentioned Denmark being the happiest country in the world but I am not sure that is true. We have high alcohol consumption and about half a million people on happy pills for a reason. 

Channel 1, our main TV channel here, recently aired a documentary on three Danish girls who converted to Islam out of their own will, not because they got married or anything like that. They all had the same background, coming from broken homes, dealing with alcoholism and so forth – basically part of the legacy of the 1968 revolution we had across Europe. What these girls lacked was structure, and they found it in Islam because it regulates all aspects of your life: how you dress, what you eat, with whom you can socialize with, how to pray, how to interact as a wife and so on. 

That is what the right-wing parties in Europe don’t understand. This is a spiritual battle. There is no political freedom without spiritual freedom. If you go around just forbidding things, like don’t wear the head cloth and so forth, it will not work. Our civilization will gradually disappear.

The only thing that can save Europe right now is a true spiritual, dare I say Christian, revival across the Continent. This played a significant role in the demise of communism in the Soviet Union and East Germany. The churches there provided hidden venues for people to congregate, express ideas and share their faith and hardships.

Since its inception Christianity was always about fighting evil with love, prayer and faith because these three are the key to freedom. And these are the values that the radical left and radical Islam do not tolerate, because of course both demand total obedience to the state and their conception of God, respectively. 

ET: Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts and your courage. You deserve to be in the cover of a magazine, not on some government blacklist. Wish you all the best.

IT: Thank you.

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Vuke's picture

Idiot! Do you want to go on a list?  It's clearly the Irish.

LA_Goldbug's picture

I keep posting for him but he has not delivered the box of cabbage that I was promised. Crap !!!

Gen. Ripper's picture

Post 1492, the weak DNA remained in Europe. This is the result.

robertocarlos's picture

I just saw a T-shirt in a shop and it was 4 Native American Indians each holding a rifle with the caption "fighting terrorism since 1492".

Gen. Ripper's picture

Whisky, casinos and pills - they've never had it so good.

LA_Goldbug's picture

Would love to buy that one and have it on going through airport security.

just the tip's picture

masculine pose.  jawline.  take off them damn feathers and let's see your tits. 

BingoBoggins's picture

She's handsome. Her eyes ... always the most important feature.

ebear's picture

Agreed, although in the context of this discussion I'm more impressed by the content of her character, even if I don't hew to the same religious beliefs.

ebear's picture

Let's see yours. 

On second though, let's not.  Even when they're the same size, man-titties just don't have the same appeal....LOL!

TeethVillage88s's picture

So here is how it works. Bankers love Defense companies in Europe and the US. But Defense work is cyclical and requires both R&D Dollars and Wars or at LEAST Police Actions.

- Good think no one can prove Military Intel is correct, Propaganda, Control of part of the Press and Publishing is enough
- So the Hardliners demand a Police Action or a war, usually expensive bombing at least, then use of expensive Logistics to put an army on the ground
- Then the Progressives, Georgii Soros, take action, we need to offer the refugees and the destitute a place in our country

Therefore:

- War is tied directly to Refugees;
- Hardliners are directly tied to Progressives;
- Direct links to MSM & Publishing Houses
- Sounds like US Congress, Correct;
- Bankers are pleased their investments in MIC Pay off & Grow, plus the Economy gets support through new Credit & Spending

scatha's picture

In fact Sweden is a much better country in comparison to the US abhorrent regime as far as immigration policies are concerned, however, they slowly started to realize that they entered a path to nowhere but dissolution of their thousands years old national identity, collapse of country economic foundation of their quasi-egalitarian society and politics and their citizen high standard of living and political discourse.

But before we all are swept by our love and admiration for Swedes and their wonderful humanistic government and social system of equality and love for immigrants few facts about recent history of Sweden and origin of their recent decades of wealth would shed more light on Sweden’s political reality.

Even before WWII neutral Sweden benefited from racist/anti- immigrant Nazi Germany building up their war machine enormously especially Swedish high quality military-grade steel industry and more, but they were not alone, in fact number one Nazi industrial cooperation leader was the US via direct investment by value but German Nazi state was huge industrial partner not only of other German allies like Italy and Japan by also Denmark, Spain, Romania, Hungary etc., and even their future victims of Nazi military aggression like Poland and Russia.

During the WWII Sweden maintained their good economic and political relationship with Nazi Germany despite pressure from the west especially after German invasion of Denmark and Norway which west could not prevent. All while Europe was burning. On the other hand they did not join in Hitler in his war like their eastern neighbors in Finland did by attacking Soviet Union together with Nazis.

But in reality what made them rich was their role in massive money laundering stolen from national museums of conquered countries art laundering and general smuggling of goods as well of people especially rich Jews who bought their freedom out of German controlled territories with gold, diamonds of hard currency of US dollar making German Nazi elites from occupied Europe millionaires.

Sweden welcomed immigrants, rich immigrants who were let out by corrupted Nazi German elites in a process that euphemistically they now call saving Jews and their gold.

After war they continued this lucrative practice of intermediary of illegal trade specializing with breaking all conceivable UN and often US and Eurpoean embargos (they have not been members/associates of EU/NATO until 1990-ties) on weapons, commodities, and hi-tech. Hence Soviets were shopping in Stockholm for new US technology to steal or copy while US used Sweden to recruit Russian spies and buy military tech secrets from soviets. Fat fees were earned by Swedish intermediaries.

But liberty loving US and even openly anti-colonial Soviet Union looked away when Swedish industry [but also Austrian and Swiss] was providing weapons of war at enormous profits for most abhorrent regimes such Apartheid South African regime, Rhodesian racist regime of Ian Smith or Namibia or murderous black regimes of Congo or Central African Republic or middle east Islamic or secular regimes (Iran/Iraq) or south American dictatorships all under strict UN embargoes one time or another.

Hypocrisy of Swedish humanistic, high principled society at home, freedom liberty loving, criminalizing racism, pontificating equality of all while most of that was bought by money earned by supporting most racist autocratic regimes on earth and  fueling of murderous civil wars on African and South American continents.

Highly taxed Swedish corporations were not allowed to exploit Swedes at home but they became brutal and unfettered capitalist monsters abroad as they invested to benefit abhorrent regimes often became a proxies to US dark interests when US could not stoop so low to openly support them.

 For example it was Swedish corporations that not only delivered weapons but participated in pre-1990 South Africa’ Nuclear program under strict UN sanctions while the US remained silent.

Swedish socialism of 1950-ties to 80-ties was wonderful but expensive thing and someone had to pay for it and color people all over the word did pay for it not swedes alone themselves.

Swedes as well as colonial Europe must realize that what happening there with a wave of immigration is their own historical fault and they,[not actually those who are guilty of it namely European elites], have to pay or they will have to get rid of the fascist EU empire and return power to the people.

Only in this context one can see reality of Swedish immigration policy within EU what cannot be describe otherwise but a disaster for Swedish people who see only sharp polarization of the public opinion, raise of fascist political sentiments and movements, closed borders with their neighbors like Norway and Denmark first time in about 50 years of unimpeded crossings, no go zones in the massively gentrified cites, public/private school race/color/religion segregation and most of all huge profit for Swedish oligarchy robbing national treasure and people retirement savings while artificially depressing economy in an effort to bailout the insolvent Swedish banks that rule the country for last 15 years at least.

Does Sweden have an immigration problem? You bet but they are also victims of US global imperial policy and chaos and regime change. If fact in contrast to current MSM orthodoxy about inevitability of globalization and resulting mass migrations the truth is quite different.

The vast majority of people want to live among their own people where graves of their ancestors are located or are accessible, they want to live and contribute within their own culture, feel belonging to a harmonious community of friends sharing the same understanding, religion and moral values whatever they are. In fact most of immigrants deride emigration as a tragic last resort to safe themselves from more destruction, pain suffering or death.

The globalization or a dream of global uniform community of seven billion pushed down our throat is a lie. It is nothing but a psychotic delusion of those global oligarchs who see it as an exponentiation of their own, very old global cosmopolitan attitudes of aristocracy or 0.01% who had a castles in every country and from behind their walls proclaimed phony diversity and fake inclusiveness where was none.

People must realize that there is no problem with immigrants. They are human beings who respond to viscous policies of their own abhorrent regimes they live under and US global regime that threaten their very survival.

But there is a huge problem with the fact of immigration itself and policies of globalization and imperialism that purposefully fuel massive peoples' movement around the world.

And the US as a imperial power pushing globalization via war or economic terror, bears 90% of responsibility of misery of the people pushed off their land from their villages and cities unable to marry and set up their families and live decent live in their own cultural settings on their own self-sustained economy and self-governed and not being raped by global oligarchy and monkey trained in greed for money and economic exploitation of a fellow human being.

In fact so-called policy of mass migration and "diversity" is a very old imperial policy existing in any emporiums from Roman to British/American empire and serve a purpose of stirring previously nonexistent animosity among people by putting them together in a mix of diverse groups set up to compete among themselves for cultural and economic dominance while oligarchic elites are safe from discontent that is always funneled into racism and ethnic struggles away from true culprit of ruling elite policies who set them up for a bloody and useless cockfight.

The only and ultimate solution, a true and honest solution to mass immigration we are facing now is to stop the motivations and reasons for it, to stop the sources of suffering of the people who in desperation sought to emigrate and abandon their beautiful ancestral land.

The only way we truly mitigate this human disaster of emigration is when we stop the US/NATO instigated wars like in Syria, Libya or financial terrorism Greece, Italy etc.,.
To be pro-immigrants means to be against wars that create immigration and refugees otherwise it is pure political propaganda that's all.

Let's not fight the phony oligarchic cockfight about immigration or anything else that divide us, let's unite because there is only one social division that matters, a class division that unite 99% against one percent of power usurpers.

kuwa mzuri's picture

The wars are not the reason for the immigration/ invasion of  dissimilar cultures into the West.  The wars are the means and excuses for same.

Recent population displacements and resettlements have been engineered a la the eugenics and racial debasement Kalergi Plan, as laid out early last century for the fulfillment of a luciferian two-tiered (capstone/ pyramidal base) new world order.

The US is a power player, but not the only one in this sick satanic play for inhuman world domination.  All of the nations are led by matrix minions in thrall to luciferian evil and control.  World leader-flunkies give the hand signals at every photo op.

OCnStiggs's picture

USA bad. Sweden not so bad. Poor helpless refugees. Immigration is natural and borders are evil concepts created by oligarcs.

Sounds like someone who can't see the forest for the trees. Somebody is missing the point.

Sweden (and the rest of the world) is being invaded by muslim refugees prosecuting the largest Jihad in history. Their aim is to come to countries where the cultures have been destroyed and replace those cultures with Sharia Law. And, the leftist governments and actors in many other governments are aiding and abetting the Jihad by placing all the refugees on social assistance. These refugees DO NOT ASSIMILATE and the evidence is clear in Sweden and France that their aim is destruction of the culture.

For all those like Scatha who seek to point out flaws in western society yet refuse to see the truth in muslim emigration and the ruthlessness and wholesale violence they bring with them are fools.

The Elites are creating this problem by their support of culture destruction and the move for a borderless one-world-government where they have full control. Yes, fight the elites but, do not lose our cultures because the world of the future depends on our differences.

LA_Goldbug's picture

Did you read his comment to the end ?

"In fact so-called policy of mass migration and "diversity" is a very old imperial policy existing in any emporiums from Roman to British/American empire and serve a purpose of stirring previously nonexistent animosity among people by putting them together in a mix of diverse groups set up to compete among themselves for cultural and economic dominance while oligarchic elites are safe from discontent that is always funneled into racism and ethnic struggles away from true culprit of ruling elite policies who set them up for a bloody and useless cockfight."

The concept of drawn lines on the planet has been brought to its peak thanks to European Anglo-Zionist powers. There is no Zionist without the Anglo and it is they that are CREATING these conflicts. There is no effort to seek cooperation, none. The Game is "Have Power Take It All"

OCnStiggs's picture

Yes but, read the earlier parts of the article.

If you truly believe its all caused by the Oligarcs then shouldn't they bear blame for the above claims and not the "countries" themselves. Nowhere in this response does the writer state that the islamic jihad is a unilateral movement. Your response suggests that jihad is just another movement created by the Anglo Zionists. It is not.

It may be used by the Elites to further their cause but, as the muslim House of Saud is finding out, money is no barrier to the will of an islamic fundamentalist. If the jihad is allowed unchecked, the Elites will die in the end. No one will produce in a society filled with radical muslims. All their countries are fourth-world societies. They have no idea how to fit in in the western world and they don't care to. They expect the west to change to their needs.

This will not end well and Europe will lead the way...

 

LA_Goldbug's picture

IF, and that is a BIG IF, they (West) wanted to shut down the "jihad" they would do what they are best at, a coups/revolutions. Where? Saudi Arabia. This is the radicalization center with approval of the West.

The Middle East is full of examples of how this is done. So for me jihad is something that is allowed to be on the front page. Gaddafi's , Saddam's, Assad's , Mubbarek's could be found to be put in place to simmer down the pot. BUT "THEY" DON'T want it. "They" have shafted so many people in so many countries that they are looking for a way to wipe this away. War with Russia is not lighting up as expected, Iran also a bust .... What's left? Choas with muzzi's.

LA_Goldbug's picture

Excellent post Scatha.

"Of his life, little is known. However it is possible that Scatha was a remnant of the dragons of Morgoth that fled into Northeast after the War of Wrath at the end of the First Age. It is not certain whether Scatha was the dragon which killed Dain I and his son Frór. "

William Dorritt's picture

Sweden calls itself Little America.

They make some good weapons, a few good cars and some other stuff.

They are a little distant and stuffy, and yes like most Europeans think they are superior.

At some point, Russia will need to occupy Scandinavia, take all Muslims and leftest leaders into custody, deport the Muslims to the Middle East perhaps via Syria, and take the Leftist leaders back to Russia and keep that in a Luxury Resort for 20 years until they are completely irrelevant.

At most, the Russians should occupy Scandinavia for 30 days and leave.

Zipper43's picture

I mean WTF.

When my Ontario buddy relocated to Texas the first thing his neighbour said was "What church do you belong to?"

"M-mmm, a-a-a-h, We used to worship Jimmy Swaggart. Does that count?'

"

kuwa mzuri's picture

What cheap and easy faux sophistication to bad-mouth God and/or Christ believers.

kuwa mzuri's picture

Yes, It (Luciferian It) is absurd.

God is Perfect, but we mortals have to strain to even accept the premise and promise of perfect good.

And, yet, strain we should.

TeethVillage88s's picture

ZH correct me on this.

- Middle East Countries, where Refugees are coming from, Afghanistan, and Israel = Don't allow Christian Missionaries to visit
- So these Refugees have no context for Christianity, except for the few that were isolated in these countries (Suppressed)
- Muslim Culture is often in conflict with Christian Cultures, Booze, Gambling, Women half Dressed, Drug subculture, Western TV/Radio/Music/Movies/Theater/Musical... Equal Rights... Women's Rights... Law enforcement... Children's Rights... Anti-Slavery Laws and Enforcement... Anti Thuggery Laws or Organized Crime Laws & Enforcement... Public Nuisance Laws... Disturbing the Peace Laws... and High Tech & Organized Sheriffs Offices & Police Stations
- Plus they have Koran that requires infidels to be killed & Christians to be Crucified
- Plus they have Sharia Law

You can't pass out Christian Literature in any Muslim Country world wide; there are historical reasons for this.

BingoBoggins's picture

But I thought Open Society brought them into the 21st century?

JuicedGamma's picture

Imagine no dogs, pork or beer.

rwe2late's picture

The terminology of "left" and "right" is over-simplistic when used to categorize

the current political/social situation.

Yes, some "leftists" have a thoughtless support of globalism and multiculturalism.

But the global corporations have been the biggest supporters of globalism and

borderless exchange, much to their economic benefit. The MIC provides the organizational

support for global militarism and arms dealing, as well as serving as the proximate cause of

global refugee/migration. Does it not merely cause confusion to now characterize the MIC

and its supporters as "leftist"?

The false apologies for empire building and aggression have been around for a long time,

white man's burden, spreading democracy, and now necessity to protect. But although the

propaganda may appeal to both traditional left and right, are the excuses for empire and "homeland" policing

the explanation, and are they strictly  excuses used by the "left"?

The fragmentation of society, the anomie, the alienation are not simply products of a philosophy.

We have arrived here step by step, with US and European colonization and exploitation of the world's people,

and the wanton destruction and pollution of the world's environment and other species.

"Christianity", for the most part, supported all the self-serving arrogance of empire.

Yes, we need to  re-examine our current beliefs AND actions. We need to re-examine how our society is

organized to promote destruction and waste. A simplistic "return" to Christianity will not do. Nor will the

unrealistic philosophy that all beliefs are equally good serve to improve the situation.

I do not know if humanity will be able to change the self-destructive path it follows.

It may be too late and beyond the capability of human biology.

 

trader1's picture

if I were living in Denmark, I'd be much more concerned about the consequences from climate change.

 

 

trader1's picture

down arrows don't get the joke or have a shallow sense of humour.

 

Dildocks's picture

You hid it well under your ass, but saw your sarcasm spreading out from under the weight.

didthatreallyhappen's picture

climate change?  bwaaaaa.  you mean the global warming hoax

BingoBoggins's picture

It's Ex-es-ten-tial-ism. Can't you read?

didthatreallyhappen's picture

nordic women give excellent fellatio 

BingoBoggins's picture

That's an inappropriate greeting, isn't it?

10mm's picture

There no longer women. Sorry

chosen's picture

Europeans seem to be bent on self-destruction.  I think WWI and WWII mind-fucked them.

kuwa mzuri's picture

Yes, but you left off Americans, Latinos, Africans, Asians, Australians, and Canadians.

 

[Seriously, downvotes??]

SmedleyButlersGhost's picture

"Seriously, down votes??".  

Fuck off   if you have something to say, fucking say it.  If you are cruising for votes, go to a gay dating website.

chosen's picture

Is he/she the result of one of those Denmark sex change operations we used to hear about?

kuwa mzuri's picture

You're on the list.  You've been used and refuse to see it.

Not going to lol.  The satanic/ baphomet gender mutilation horror the matrix perpetrates on its victims isn't at all amusing.  Neither is what happens to the players. 

The med profession of faith to Satan will be exposed, by deed and name of each so-called doctor and hospital administrator.

Houston, we have a problem.

[Edit:  Whosoever could have a problem with my comment is a problem in him or her or itself and one

hailing from our esteemed medical center in Hou.   Vids and first-person testimony will be coming out as to the organ, baby, and genomic trafficking that supports the "medical" complex in financials and demonic soul.]

 

kuwa mzuri's picture

One has to suppose down-voters here support the Houson Med Center trafficking of death, sadistic mutilation, and horror parts.

Well, ok, rot in hell.

(After you're exxposed and eliminated in the mortal realm.)

 

BingoBoggins's picture

Her eyes lead to the soul.

10mm's picture

Let me help my peeps out. You're old, over 50, white, and stiff near dead. Your kids, their kids, whatever, are fucked.

10mm's picture

None. Over rated.  Back in your hole.

kuwa mzuri's picture

Your comment sounds a bit sick.

BingoBoggins's picture

Don't you hate "knowing" some things, yet feeling so helpless sometimes? Not "fallen and can't get up" helpless either. Don' exist for fight club anyhow. But, you know, that foreboding ill that you can't do enough?

Killdo's picture

She looks exactly like a Danish girl I used to date when I was in high school

kuwa mzuri's picture

Your avatar is no disguise.  

Stupid, "kill-do".