Is Denmark On The Brink?

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Authored by Erico Matias Tavares via Sinclair & Co.,

Iben Thranholm examines political and social events with focus on their religious aspects, significance and moral implications. She is one of Denmark’s most widely read columnists on such matters. Thranholm is a former editor and radio host at the Danish Broadcasting Corporation (DR), at which she created a religious news program that set a new standard for religious analysis in the newsroom. She has traveled extensively in the Middle East, Italy, the United States and Russia to carry out research and interviews. She has been awarded for her investigative research into Danish media coverage of religious issues.

 

E Tavares: Iben, thank you for being with us today. Over a year ago we talked to Dr. Tino Sanandaji, an economics professor at a leading Swedish university, on the inconsistencies of Swedish immigration policies. The resulting post was hit, revealing a significant interest for this topic. 

In a sense Sweden is the canary in the coalmine of Europe’s demographic future, since they have been at the forefront of this transformation and openly embrace it. Being a close neighbor we would like to get your views on what is happening there, as well as in Denmark. How do the Danes look at Sweden, with hope or apprehension? 

I Tranholm: With absolute horror! 

The Swedish media, which is quite pro-government and its leftwing policies, does not always report the full extent of the problems in their society. So it is hard to have a very accurate picture of what is going on. But we in Denmark have a good sense. We are very aware of the murders, rapes, riots, violence and the hand grenades that go on there. This does not often make the news but we know it is going on. And we don’t want to go down the same route. 

This is the result of decades of policies promoting multiculturalism in Sweden. And what is left is this hollow house. You know, in the Bible it is said that if a house is left swept, tidied and unoccupied it eventually it will be taken over by evil. And I fear that this is what is happening in Sweden. Far from being a multicultural paradise, the problems can no longer remain hidden. 

ET: Indeed, even President Trump made some controversial comments about Sweden at a recent rally in the US, causing an international uproar, with many debates on whether he was right or wrong. Did this cause some discussion in Denmark as well?

IT: It wasn’t much of a discussion because we in Denmark know what is happening in Sweden. Malmo is very close so we only need to go there to see it with our own eyes. 

There was a TV ad partially paid by the Swedish government recommending that all Swedes integrate into this new multicultural society they are creating. Think about that. Even old Swedes now need to adjust to this new reality, instead of immigrants adapting to Swedish society. They call it “Det nya landet”, which means the new country. Traditional Sweden is gone.

ET: Swedes and Danes share many cultural traits. What explains this divergence in opinions? Is it because you do not face the same societal problems? 

IT: We are not as politically correct as the Swedes. So there is a lot of discussion here. (…) As such we have a greater awareness of our heritage and tend to be more protective of it.

Which is not to say we don’t have problems. We do. We face the same identity issues, and our traditions – in particular our Christian heritage – are fast disappearing from our society. That same hollowness is now becoming mainstream in Denmark. And this eliminates much of the arguments to defend ourselves against the importation of foreign values and customs, many of which are at odds with our own. Simply forbidding things will not change this reality. 

ET: And how has integration been? Seems to be going better than other European countries since we don’t hear much about “no-go” zones and riots in your country, unlike France and Sweden, for instance.

IT: We have those problems as well but because Denmark is a small country you won’t hear about them as much. 

We have this belief here that welfare is the solution for everything. No matter who comes here from whatever part of the world will get housing, work, entertainment and healthcare. The government will give those to you with the expectation that if you have all those things you will happily assimilate into Danish society, learn Danish and adapt to our culture. As a result we will become a vibrant multicultural society. 

The reality is quite different. The relativism that this multiculturalism engenders ends up putting different sides of society at odds with each other, especially when their values and beliefs are very different to begin with.

When immigrants come to Denmark they may be taken care of, but they have no dominant culture that they can assimilate into, certainly not in the religious sense. We are completely devoid of God. And as a result they end bringing elements of their culture and religion which often create friction, misunderstandings and also crime. So Danish society becomes more and more divided as a result. 

ET: Politicians seem to be getting the message. Your parliament recently passed legislation to ensure that immigration would never reach a level that would threaten Danish national identity. What do you make of this?

IT: We have a very divided society here as well, even without considering the waves of immigration that have recently settled here. 

Half of the population wants open borders, mass immigration and welfare for all. They reject traditional values and are very much in favor of globalism and multiculturalism. The other half is very much opposed to that, but they lack any persuasive arguments to support that position. All they can do is to forbid immigration, forbid women from wearing a head cloth and so on. 

We no longer have a moral compass. Before, Christianity provided this role, keeping us united over centuries. Now we can no longer distinguish between good and evil, and ultimately this is what this struggle comes down to. Without this any preventive measures like this are just quick fixes that will not solve anything over the longer term. What is needed is a positive alternative in a moral sense. 

ET: Is there any data or independent studies on the benefits and costs of immigration in Denmark? In Sweden for instance this topic is almost taboo, but there are many concerns in terms of finding good employment opportunities for immigrants, coming from the immigrants themselves in fact.

IT: With this new culture we have adopted in the West we stopped having enough children to support our welfare state. So yes, one argument is that we need more people to support it. 

In our own very secular society the state is God. It is supposed to provide and care for everybody. So the economic arguments become less relevant. Of course they are consideration since people are paying for these policies, but in a sense they are secondary.

ET: We are at the cusp of an automation wave that threatens to displace millions of workers across the developed world. This will raise even more concerns regarding mass immigration, which traditionally consists of lower skilled workers. Is there any discussion in Denmark about this?

IT: No. The only discussion is around the cultural aspect, namely the impact on our values and traditions. 

And in a sense this just shows how weak we are. For instance, there are only 250,000 Muslims in Denmark, so a tiny minority. And yet the majority of our political debates focusing on culture over the last ten years have largely revolved around Islam. That’s how weak our culture has become.

So while as an open society there is resistance to women having to cover themselves up, having separate swimming pools for men and women and so forth, we have lost the argument to combat these imported traditions largely because we have lost our Christian roots and values. So over time they will become more prevalent in our society. We are already seeing it.

ET: Secular Muslims may also lose out a result. Many cherish Western values but will increasingly find a native society that is at odds with them, as their own communities become more extremist. Many complain that the Islam in Denmark and other European countries is more hardcore or even radical than in their home countries.

IT: That is true. And again that is largely a result of this cultural hesitation in the societies that host them. As a result, those more aggressive forms gain more ground to the detriment of everyone, especially women. 

ET: Much of the developing world faces a difficult situation and undoubtedly the countries that can help should. Let’s face it, faulty Western foreign policies have made bad situations even worse across much of the Middle East, although other very important sectarian and ethnic conflicts play a large role as well. 

There are those who suggest that instead of opening the borders this help should be provided at the origin, which would be cheaper and thus could help many more people, would place refugees closer to their homes and avoid many of the social problems we are unfortunately seeing across Europe – caused by a minority to be sure, but still very problematic. What do Danish politicians think about this?

IT: That would be logical in many ways, but again the debate is not economical. People want to be perceived as doing good, meaning opening their communities, welcoming and caring for others. 

I would be in favor of that if we were talking about women and their children, even families. But the reality is different. The majority of people we have welcomed in recent years, especially following the migrant crisis, are fit young men. They bring their conflicts and their frustrations with them, creating a difficult environment for everyone. 

So yes, arguably it would be more efficient to provide care at the source but this is not how the debate is framed.

ET: Denmark is supposedly the happiest country on the planet. But you have little reason to be happy these days as you find yourself on the receiving end of government censorship, not only for expressing your concerns about the future of your country but also for working for a Russian news outlet. What happened here? You recently wrote a powerful piece about this, expressing your feelings not only as a woman who does not toe the party line but especially as a Christian. 

IT: In 2015 I wrote an article criticizing our politicians who for the most part hate Christianity but nevertheless use Christian values, especially charity and compassion, to promote their own agendas, in particular mass immigration. So I called them out on that.

A few months later I got a call from a politician here who told me that I was on a government blacklist, supposedly acting as a pro-Russian propagandist agent, despite having absolutely no evidence to that effect. I occasionally work for a Russian news outlet, but that’s simply my job as a journalist. 

Today, in a society where supposedly there is freedom of speech, if politicians want to silence their critics they simply accuse them of working for the Kremlin, or having some unexplained ties with Russia. That is what happened to me, and it also happening to high profile politicians and journalists in the US, France and Germany. If you don’t agree with the multicultural policies of Europe then you are labeled a Russian agent. Which is really a form of political or character assassination. 

They are so afraid of the rise of what leftist politicians in Europe call “populism”, which threaten the existence of their beloved European Union. And this year the stakes are very high with elections in France and Germany. So they resort to these kinds of tactics to quash any dissenters. 

So I find myself in a blacklist in a supposedly free country like Denmark, but if a conflict with Russia emerges I can end up in prison under the pretext of being a foreign agent. Again, with no proof and no judicial process. This is very much how totalitarian societies operate. First they put you on a list, then when there is a problem or a made-up reason they will come for you.

ET: You were only expressing views that are consistent with those of many conservatives on both sides of the Atlantic. There are certainly many people concerned about the future of Western societies. In many ways this evokes memories of the Soviet Union, and the great new society they tried to create, with the disastrous consequences we all know.

That is actually a very real and concerning comparison. After all, communism was a Western idea and it was imposed on Russia, they did not create it. And it did not die with the collapse of the Soviet Union. On the contrary, it is still very much alive and roaming around our continent. While it operates differently, the goals are not too dissimilar. The version we have spreading across the West is Cultural Marxism.

We no longer have families, religion, even genders. In Sweden now they have invented a gender neutral term to address little boys and girls at kindergarten. This is a complete change from traditional Western values that have kept Europe safe from outside invasion for centuries. And this is now gone. 

All this talk of multiculturalism and open borders sounds very nice, but in practice it has led to a progressive transformation of our societies, and as Sweden shows not for the better. Less freedoms, less safety, less cohesion; more crime, more fragmentation, more social problems. It really is a struggle of good versus evil, and we in the West can no longer distinguish between the two. I would even call it diabolical disorientation. 

ET: So how long you think before the Christian cross is removed from your flag? And how does the Danish monarchy, which is sworn to protect Danish culture and religion, feel about all of this?

IT: No European politician will stand up for Christianity. Nobody. Expect from perhaps Hungarian Prime Minister, Victor Orbán. 

There is this unholy alliance between the left and radical Islam. Many Europeans have such a disdain for their own traditions that they would prefer to see Christianity being eradicated even if it might cost their way of life and even personal freedoms in the end. 

We have this bizarre situation where Western feminists support women having to wear a head cloth, along with foregoing many of the rights they should be able to enjoy in our countries. And these women often get penalized by their own communities when they try to assimilate into our society, while the feminists stay quiet. It is all very multicultural and good.

ET: You know Russia well as part of your work. Can you contrast what is happening there relative to the transformation taking place across much of Western Europe?

Believe it or not, we have swapped lanes. Now it is Russia who is adopting Christianity as the West gets rid of it by any means possible. 

Christianity runs very deep in Russia: in their literature, in their arts, in their culture. When the Soviets brutally tried to suppress it, at the cost of countless lives, it survived underground. People still celebrated it in secrecy, performing baptisms and the like behind closed doors. 

President Putin recently inaugurated an enormous statue of St. Vladimir, the patron saint of the Russian Orthodox Church, about 100 yards from the Kremlin walls. If you stand at a certain point across the street from the Kremlin, the cross that he bears is even taller than the star in the Red Square, so the symbolism is very potent. 

In the West, as we discussed, we are going the other way. We can’t discard our values and heritage fast enough. 

ET: There was a 2014 Russian movie, Leviathan, which alluded to this transformation. However it put Orthodox Christianity in a less positive light, essentially being used as an ideological argument to justify the power of the oligarchs in society. President Putin is certainly no saint. Isn’t this all just superficial?

IT: There are people in Russia who are also opposed to their own traditional values and who want a more Westernized Russia. I have not seen that movie so I can’t say if the director supports that view or not. 

People need to go to Russia and see it for themselves. President Putin is only responding to what is happening there and he respects the Russian people’s faith in Orthodoxy.

This is one of the reasons why I believe the West hate the Russians so much. They cannot tolerate the thought of having a resurgent and powerful Christian Russia who openly rejects their Cultural Marxism. And accordingly they demonized it in much of our media and political circles.

ET: So, is Denmark on the brink? Indeed, is the rest of Europe on the brink?

IT: Yes, Denmark is on the brink. And Europe is on the brink. We completely lost our culture, our values and our moral compass. What used to be good is now evil and vice-versa. 

You mentioned Denmark being the happiest country in the world but I am not sure that is true. We have high alcohol consumption and about half a million people on happy pills for a reason. 

Channel 1, our main TV channel here, recently aired a documentary on three Danish girls who converted to Islam out of their own will, not because they got married or anything like that. They all had the same background, coming from broken homes, dealing with alcoholism and so forth – basically part of the legacy of the 1968 revolution we had across Europe. What these girls lacked was structure, and they found it in Islam because it regulates all aspects of your life: how you dress, what you eat, with whom you can socialize with, how to pray, how to interact as a wife and so on. 

That is what the right-wing parties in Europe don’t understand. This is a spiritual battle. There is no political freedom without spiritual freedom. If you go around just forbidding things, like don’t wear the head cloth and so forth, it will not work. Our civilization will gradually disappear.

The only thing that can save Europe right now is a true spiritual, dare I say Christian, revival across the Continent. This played a significant role in the demise of communism in the Soviet Union and East Germany. The churches there provided hidden venues for people to congregate, express ideas and share their faith and hardships.

Since its inception Christianity was always about fighting evil with love, prayer and faith because these three are the key to freedom. And these are the values that the radical left and radical Islam do not tolerate, because of course both demand total obedience to the state and their conception of God, respectively. 

ET: Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts and your courage. You deserve to be in the cover of a magazine, not on some government blacklist. Wish you all the best.

IT: Thank you.

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homebody's picture

I understand you but you obviously missed my sarcasm.  I was born there, but when taxes topped 60% for socialist programs, I no longer see Denmark as the same country.  It is that free shit that is attracting all the garbage of the middle east. 

IronForge's picture

I miss Borgen.  Awesome Show.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borgen_(TV_series)

aliens is here's picture

Don't expext Americans come to rescue your assholes when rapefugees takes over your land. You fucker should just go die.

Joe A's picture

Rapefugees come to Europe thanks to America's policies in MENA. So thanks a lot America.

Dave's not here's picture

What you say is true.. But only because politicians are trying  to fight a shooting war with PC tactics. Either brutally and completely destroy the enemy, or be prepared for the bullshit we now enjoy..  They knew this up thru WW2.. We seem to have lost our spine somewhere along the way.

FBaggins's picture

WWII solidified Danish identty and pride for generations thereafter. Sweden was in total control of international banksters and industrialists and made deals to remain neutral during WWII. No idently it that.   The Danes have a bithrright and a culture to protect and pass on, but the Sweds appear to have sold out for a potage. 

random999's picture

great article, smart woman

DeadGuy's picture

You cannot win this war by having 2 different sets of rules of war...  They must be completely and utterly destroyed...  War is coming and it won't be pretty.

 

Not one stone upon another...

 

THe Ka'bah must be destroyed.

custard's picture

Don't fret. America will go the way Europe has gone. Just taking a little longer because it has a much bigger population to change. When that happens The world as we used to know it will be gone. Can't understand why the Left are pushing for Muslim intergration when it will eventually be their downfall as well as everyone elses

Joe A's picture

You as a nazi do realize that the nazis and Islamic world were in love with each other, don't you? In Bosnia there was a Islamic division that helped the nazis to round up and kill Serbs, Jews and Roma. Also, the great mufti of Jerusalem was great friends of the nazis, had an office in Berlin and is rumoured to encourage the nazis to kill Jews in order to prevent them from coming to Palestine. There are more examples. So you as a nazi should rejoice and welcome the Muslims into America or wherever you are. You have so much in common.

Xena fobe's picture

Have you been to California lately, like since 1970?

Grandad Grumps's picture

I guess I do not understand why Soros is still walking free and allowed to terrorize humanity.

Oberst-Gruppenfuhrer's picture

With jews, you lose.  Hitler was right.  Until western countries address the jew problem, the world will continue its downward spiral.

Joe A's picture

Hey, we have a 19 weeks nazi troll here with a funny nazi name. I am sure you will feel right at home here because ZH has gone down the hill a bit in the commenters department.

Hitler was right, so the holocaust happened? Cause there are plenty here that say it didn't happen. They can't really explain though where all the Jews that were put on trains East (well documented also by the nazis themselves) went to eventually. Nor can they explain the witness accounts of also non Jews about what happened in the camps. But I am sure you can us give a good explanation.

Vilfredo Pareto's picture

With this new culture we have adopted in the West we stopped having enough children to support our welfare state. So yes, one argument is that we need more people to support it. 

 

Maintaining the welfare ponzi  obviously drives the debate.   

Joe A's picture

That is really ironic when you think that many immigrants are actually on welfare and also receive child support. It is more ironic when you realize that many low skilled jobs will be automated putting more people out of the labor force and on welfare support.

ZD1's picture

No, it's more about globalists destroying countries and borders to enable their one world government.

GoldenDonuts's picture

Europeans have spat on the hard work of hundreds of years of their ancestors.  Bought the bullshit of the globalists hook line and sinker.  If you have any interest in your future or even your present your going to have to get a backbone and start shipping the fake refugees back.  By force if necessary.

damicol's picture

 I have a very good Chinese friend visited me recently, and we talked about problems in the world and about it affecting his business. Export.

We talked about immigration in Europe and US and asked him if he ever thought China would face same problems.

His answer was the simplest and best I ever heard. He paused a minute thing about it and then said this.

You know every Chinese know China is our home. China is for Chinese people. Is not home other people.

Parent in China understand these things. When have a child, their child like to bring friend to play in its room. Wise parent always agree that and child is happy and friend is happy. But every parent know friend will play with child's toys. This ok for a a while, Child and friend enjoy together. But late smart parent will see child get bored and then suggest friend should go home so can come back net time. When child face is smiling then know right decision. Now child can play with own toys and still good friend with friend. Say goodbye and will enjoy meet next day.

Chinese very kind neighbor, If neighbor has disaster, Chinese will always help, let neighbor stay their house. But Chinese know this is not  solution, so good Chinese neighbor make big efforts to fix problem so can leave. This way is always grateful help and friendship get stronger.

If neighbor sty too long then make mess, always in bathroom, always under feet now. This cause unhappiness, soon is argument, then is fight, then throw neighbor out so can have peace. This very bad, now friends before not friends and not even speak.

Chinese know this. Foreigner is very welcome visit China. Chinese people so happy they visit, they like show beautiful country, watch visitor taste delicious food, drink good beers and enjoy company. Every Chines is so happy make new foreign friend.

But when time to go home visitor must leave, always welcome to get new visa and visit next time. This way, always stay friends.

 

Wow, those Europeans, So fucking stupid don;t understand this.

 Wow this so amazing can be so fucking stupid. So fucking crazy.

Trust me, Chinese never so stupid as fucking European hahahahahahaha

 

UnShocked's picture

There is a larger percentage of Muslims in China than in the US, sure their mostly Chinese, but they are Muslim and there is an occasional uprising within China. Then of course there is the fact that public demonstrations within China have risen over 10 times the amount that was recorded in the early 90's. China has Economic problems, religous problems and ethnic population problems that are on the increase. Trust me Chinese have been pretty stupid numerous times throughout history (Their human beings.) and that will continue. I don't believe people especially refugees, or any immigrants for that matter that are fighting to get into China, in fact a lot of rich Chinese are slowly getting out of China, at the least they try to get their money out of China. It's actually been said that their Union Pay Card is one way in which they get their assets out of Chinese hands.

custard's picture

I have been to China a number of times, more recently last year. If the Muslims protest or even blow their nose the Chinese military are down on them like a ton of bricks. The Chinese Governemnt don't take any nonsense from uprisings or protest. Look what happened in Tianiman square. As for wealthy chinese getting out of China. Many are ex Government and some of those people have accumulated illegal money through their positions in Government. SO a number of Yen being transferred over seas through varies illegal ways could be dirty money. Countries around the world as well as the Chinese Government are aware that this is going on and have or are using intensive vetting where Immigrants from China worked in the Chinese Government

LA_Goldbug's picture

The Anglo-Zionist's would love to bring their Democrassy to China. Results were spectacular the first time around but that was under the umbrella of "Open Trade" with Opium.

_ArC_'s picture

Your English gave me a fucking headache!

damicol's picture

I was repeating what my Chinese friend said, you fucking moron.

Oldrepublic's picture

 Iben Thranholm  ,Op Ed on RT

Europe's tragedy: Too much Angela Merkel,too little masculinity

 

https://www.rt.com/op-edge/329241-europes-tragedy-merkel-immigration/

She used to be a radio host on the state radio, DBC, Danish Broadcasting Corporation,

Very different from the BBC viewpoints

uncle_disgusting's picture

Lapsed Catholic here. You're telling me that going to church is the only thing that will save us?

Bullshit. How about we just think for ourselves, instead of needing some guy in a frock to do it for us?

Edit: she's right about it being a spiritual battle tho - good vs evil, same as it ever was...

newworldorder's picture

You are right, with one huge difference - however.

The only alleged religion that would mandate conversion to itself, if it could. - is Islam.  The mandate is legal, governace and allegedly religious.

As to good or evil as a concept, it does not exist in Islam. It is either written in the Quran and the Hadiths or it is not.

Everything written must be obeyed and practiced, while anything not written is forbidden, - factually or through interpretation. 

William Dorritt's picture

Islam is not a Religion,

it is a totalitarian Political Ideology and System with one goal, world conquest and domination

NuYawkFrankie's picture

"Destroy Europe for the Greater Glory Of USSA-ISISrael"

THAT was THE PLAN all along... just aak NeoCON ZIO-SCUM Thugette, Sicky Vicky Nudelman "FUCK EUROPE" Kagan.

Batman11's picture

It’s just part of the plan for the New World Order to dissolve national identity; this is why George Soros is so keen on it.

The plans for the New World Order have been spiraling out of control since 2008, but this part is still firmly in place.

No one can admit things aren’t working.

The problems run very deep and aren’t going to be fixed with monetary policy.

Knowledge of economics and monetary theory has been regressing for one hundred years as the very rich and powerful tinker with it to their advantage.

1920s inequality suited them just fine, so they have bought back 1920s neoclassical economics.

Why everything looks so familiar:

1920s/2000s – high inequality, high banker pay, low regulation, low taxes for the wealthy, robber barons (CEOs), reckless bankers, globalisation phase

1929/2008 – Wall Street crash

1930s/2010s – Global recession, currency wars, rising nationalism and extremism

1940s – Global war.

The same absolute faith in markets ensured no one recognized the bubble that had been blowing up which will wreck the economy

“Stocks have reached what looks like a permanently high plateau.” Irving Fisher 1929.

In 2007, Ben Bernanke could see no problems ahead.

The Euro is based on an assumption from today’s economics that it will naturally head to a stable equilibrium. It is an assumption I wouldn’t have much faith in.

The bankers create money out of nothing, we better hide that, though it is just a mechanism to allow you to borrow your own money from the future. When you know how it works you know why prudent lending is essential and why you don’t want bankers creating money to feed into speculation and asset bubbles. It also help you to realise the debt load is money borrowed from the future, the more debt there is, the more impoverished the future is.

“…banks make their profits by taking in deposits and lending the funds out at a higher rate of interest” Paul Krugman, 2015.

This is today’s theory (financial intermediation theory), but it is nothing like the reality.

If we knew how it really worked we could have seen 2008 coming.

This is the build up to 2008 that can be seen in the money supply (money = debt):

http://www.whichwayhome.com/skin/frontend/default/wwgcomcatalogarticles/images/articles/whichwayhomes/US-money-supply.jpg

Everything is reflected in the money supply.

The money supply is flat in the recession of the early 1990s.

Then it really starts to take off as the dot.com boom gets going which rapidly morphs into the US housing boom, courtesy of Alan Greenspan’s loose monetary policy.

When M3 gets closer to the vertical, the black swan is coming and you have an out of control credit bubble on your hands.

Credit bubbles are reflected in the money supply (money = debt).

Batman11's picture

How did they get 1920s economics back?

They used a pseudo Nobel prize to give their biased economics credibility so it could replace the older redistributive capitalism.

Neoclassical economics corrupted Classical economics at the end of the 19th and beginning of the 20th Century.

The distinction between “earned” and “unearned” income disappears at this point and the once separate areas of “capital” and “land” are conflated.

The landowners, landlords and usurers are now just productive members of society and not parasites riding on the back of other people’s hard work, but they are.

Free-trade needed a low cost of living as they knew in the 19th Century when they repealed the Corn Laws.

This knowledge is lost today and the West has priced its labour out of international markets with excessive housing, healthcare (US) and education costs (student loan repayments).

Free-trade needs subsidised housing, healthcare and education to keep the cost of living down, all known in the 19th Century.

What if you don’t get the cost of living down?

You need protectionism.

Trump has the protectionist solution.

Bernie had the re-distributive solution.

Neo-liberal free trade with a high cost of living causes the populists to rise (aka those priced out of global labour markets by national rentiers).

Batman11's picture

Economics before the corruption.

The Classical Economist, Adam Smith, looking at a world of small state, raw capitalism in the 18th Century.

Adam Smith on rent seeking:

“The labour and time of the poor is in civilised countries sacrificed to the maintaining of the rich in ease and luxury. The Landlord is maintained in idleness and luxury by the labour of his tenants. The moneyed man is supported by his extractions from the industrious merchant and the needy who are obliged to support him in ease by a return for the use of his money. But every savage has the full fruits of his own labours; there are no landlords, no usurers and no tax gatherers.”

So, landlords, usurers and taxes all raise the cost of living and minimum wage.

Western housing booms have raised the cost of living and priced Western labour out of international markets leading to the rise of the populists.

Adam Smith on price gouging:

“The interest of the dealers, however, in any particular branch of trade or manufactures, is always in some respects different from, and even opposite to, that of the public. To widen the market and to narrow the competition, is always the interest of the dealers. To widen the market may frequently be agreeable enough to the interest of the public; but to narrow the competition must always be against it, and can serve only to enable the dealers, by raising their profits above what they naturally would be, to levy, for their own benefit, an absurd tax upon the rest of their fellow-citizens.

So this is why hedge funds look for monopoly suppliers of drugs.

Adam Smith on lobbyists:

“The proposal of any new law or regulation of commerce which comes from this order ought always to be listened to with great precaution, and ought never to be adopted till after having been long and carefully examined, not only with the most scrupulous, but with the most suspicious attention. It comes from an order of men whose interest is never exactly the same with that of the public, who have generally an interest to deceive and even to oppress the public, and who accordingly have, upon many occasions, both deceived and oppressed it.

Not surprising TTIP and TPP didn’t go down well with the public.

Adam Smith on the 1%:

“All for ourselves, and nothing for other people seems, in every age of the world, to have been the vile maxim of the masters of mankind.” 

2017 – Richest 8 people as wealthy as half of world's population

They haven’t changed a bit.

Adam Smith on Profit:

"But the rate of profit does not, like rent and wages, rise with the prosperity and fall with the declension of the society. On the contrary, it is naturally low in rich and high in poor countries, and it is always highest in the countries which are going fastest to ruin."

Exactly the opposite of today's thinking, what does he mean?

When rates of profit are high, capitalism is cannibalising itself by:

1) Not engaging in long term investment for the future

2) Paying insufficient wages to maintain demand for its products and services

Today’s problems with growth and demand.

Amazon didn't suck its profits out as dividends and look how big it's grown (not so good on the wages).

We’ve been here before.

William Dorritt's picture

Good post, keep working on it and keep posting it.

Some reference links ?

gregga777's picture

I bet that you can't guess which group:

  • designed the criminally fraudulent fractional reserve banking system.
  • was behind the enactment of the Federal Reserve Act of 1913 and made sure that it made its way into law.
  • absolutely refuses to allow the United States Congress to audit the Goldman Sachs Feral Reserve System.
  • has controlled the Goldman Sachs Feral Reserve System for four of the past five decades.
  • looted more than $11,000,000,000,000 ($11 Trillion) from banks, GSEs, investors and pension funds causing the Great Financial Crisis and the Greater Depression.
  • handed out $16,000,000,000,000 ($16 Trillion) in loan guarantees to the very banks that they had just looted.
  • has to date stolen at least $8,000,000,000,000 ($8 Trillion) from pensioners, savers and pension funds with ZIRP to subsidize the banks that they had looted.

 

Manipuflation's picture

OHHH.  It's a DANE viking woman.  Danes, protect yourselves or I will sick my Russian viking woman on your...your leadership.  

Shut up and make us some rolls already.   

The 20th century was but a blip in history. 

Mimir's picture

A very un-Danish Catholic fanatic who mostly is shown on RT trying to say something chocking about Denmark !!!

Forget about her and go to other sources to understand what is happening in one the world's most wealthy social welfare democracies where most people consider themselves happy with life. Denmark certainly has a problem with integrating a relatively small group of young immigrants (first and second generation children) but it is also one of the EU countries which has accepted only a small number of refugees from the Middle East. See article here.

tuetenueggel's picture

How can one person be that ignorant ?

Never read a newspaper or see TV ?

Or simply one of the nowadays stupids ?

Mimir's picture

I'm just someone who regularly stay in the country and speak the language. 

Don't believe what you read in fake newsoutlets like Foxnews, Breitbart or even New York Times, Bloomberg or even ZH on the subject, all with agendas of their own. Go and visit the country where you will be welcomes with big smiles.

IProtectYou's picture

Go and visit the country where you will be welcomes with big smiles.

 

Like those smiles one is being welcomed in mental health clinics...

And dont try lecture me about Europe. I am European.

Mimir's picture

But you know next to nothing about Denmark, as you have shown to us all.

Do you speak the language ?

Do you visit the country ?

Do you have Danish friends or relatives ? 

Yes, surely, you can find some extreme right mavericks in the country who repeat the same falsehoods.

 

tuetenueggel's picture

If you´d speak my mothertong as good as I do English you can argue about.

If not, just shut up.

William Dorritt's picture

I call BS

I have been living, working and traveling to Europe for more than 40 years.

For the Past 25 years the Islamic Invasion becomes more unavoidable on every trip.

 

 

gregga777's picture

He is most likely one of the Islamic invaders being imported to destroy Christianity in Europe in preparation for the Islamic conquest of Europe.  European Christian refugees will soon be fleeing to Russia to escape the European Islamic Caliphate.  Russia will be defending Christianity as Europe descends into a new Islamic dark age.

tuetenueggel's picture

Why didn´t Donald jail Merkel. Or even better ordered someone to shoot her.

She is fully responsible for this devellopment.

He could have saved Europe from this muslim shit turds.

When those goatfuckers and sandniggers have finished Europe it´s your turn over there.

You don´t believe ? Wait and see. Time will tell as time told us in Germoney.

SmallerGovNow2's picture

Merkel is simply a conduit for the bubbling caldron of chaos that the US created dropping bombs all over the middle east for the past two decades...

IProtectYou's picture

This smart lady should run in the next election and may be drain the swamp of money sucking parasites.

Redbone's picture

This is the first person who has even come close to explaining why the feminists align themselves with Islam. That alignment makes absolutely no sense to me but as she explains, Believe it or not, we have swapped lanes. Now it is Russia who is adopting Christianity as the West gets rid of it by any means possible.

I am not so sure about the strong religous conotation, but indeed we have swapped lanes.  The liberals loved Russia when it was the USSR and now they despise it.  Almost as confusing as feminists embracing Islam. The liberal or progressive left does indeed seem to be trying to get rid of its heritage, including Christianity, by any means possible.  In doing so they are leaving their children with no values, morals or structure.  This in turn leaves the children, the snowflakes, very susceptible to cult influences like Islam and global warming. 

gregga777's picture

I bet that you can't guess which group:

  • designed the criminally fraudulent fractional reserve banking system.
  • was behind the enactment of the Federal Reserve Act of 1913 and made sure that it made its way into law.
  • absolutely refuses to allow the United States Congress to audit the Goldman Sachs Feral Reserve System.
  • has controlled the Goldman Sachs Feral Reserve System for four of the past five decades.
  • looted more than $11,000,000,000,000 ($11 Trillion) from banks, GSEs, investors and pension funds causing the Great Financial Crisis and the Greater Depression.
  • handed out $16,000,000,000,000 ($16 Trillion) in loan guarantees to the very banks that they had just looted.
  • has to date stolen at least $8,000,000,000,000 ($8 Trillion) from pensioners, savers and pension funds with ZIRP to subsidize the banks that they had looted.
  • heavily subsidizes the organizations destroying Chiristianity in the West while simulataneously importing Muslims.

 

smokescreen's picture

Bring back the crusades turn the middle east garbage into a parking lot and bury the globalists destroy the banks wipeout the money changers !!!!!