Trump Warns Germany "Owes Vast Sums To US... Must Be Paid For Defense"

Tyler Durden's picture

Amid #NoHandshakeGate and the "we have something in common" moment, yesterday's meeting between President Trump and German Chancellor Merkel was at best cordial, judging by the G-20 discussions, and this latest tweet from Trump...

Of course this is not the first time he has pointed this out... NATO, he said, “has problems.”

“[NATO] is obsolete, first because it was designed many, many years ago,” Bild quoted Trump as saying about the trans-Atlantic military alliance. “Secondly, countries aren’t paying what they should” and NATO “didn’t deal with terrorism.”


While those comments expanded on doubts Trump raised about the North Atlantic Treaty Organization during his campaign, he reserved some of his most dismissive remarks for the EU and Merkel, whose open-border refugee policy he called a “catastrophic mistake.”

FACT CHECK: Trump is 100% Correct - Germany has been under-funding its defense budget for years... NATO's 28-member countries committed in 2014 to spending 2 percent of their gross domestic product on defense within a decade. But only the U.S. and four other members of the post-World War II military coalition are meeting the standard, Pence said.

Failure to meet the commitment, he said, "erodes the very foundation of our alliance."

"Let me be clear on this point: The president of the United States expects our allies to keep their word, to fulfill this commitment and, for most, that means the time has come to do more," Pence said.

More awkward looks to come...

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nmewn's picture

"If you like your NATO you can keep your NATO!"

But the fine print says "the Secretary shall determine" ;-)

Rich Stoehner's picture

We bombed our way in, and we will probably bomb our way out

nmewn's picture

But what about FDR's legacy?!

Logan 5's picture
Logan 5 (not verified) Rich Stoehner Mar 18, 2017 9:01 AM


(Oh wait! That's Netanyahu channelling his inner Beach Boys)

crossroaddemon's picture

In a perfect world this is where Germany tells the US forces to GTFO.

Sanity Bear's picture

Trump is basically embarrassing them into it. Should they not react in a "that deal's terrible, forget it, we'll defend our own damn country" way, then Merkel will forever be Trump's bitch.

Anarchyteez's picture

You see the look on her face during that presser? He definitely made her his bitch.

crossroaddemon's picture

Naw, theater. The whole thing. Anything that comes out of DC is bullshit until proven otherwise.

Racer's picture

Greece is second?! WTF

nmewn's picture even a barrel of frozen fish to donate to this "just and mighty cause"?

Parasites ;-)

cossack55's picture

Iceland has the "volcano discount".  No payment to NATO, no eruption of Yrttswiielmmweu or Bwwtgghhiiiewww volcanos

Sweet Chicken's picture

I'm pretty sure you're missing a few j's and k's in there somewhere. Lol

JoeTurner's picture

I was thinking the same squad of SEALs could invade and takeover Iceland in a day

swmnguy's picture

Right, and a week later, when all there was to eat was fermented shark, they'd leave and the Icelanders would go right back to normal.

Although the Icelanders are the one people who have actually appled their laws to banksters.  They're tougher than they look.

MuffDiver69's picture

Most likely their Navy and border commitments...

ableman28's picture

Greece was scammed into buying a large amount of military hardware as part of a loan package some years ago.  Favors to people who could influence those who could extend more credit to Greece.  Greece is still paying for it.

Oldrepublic's picture

must be all those expensive German submarines the Germans force poor Greece to buy!

shovelhead's picture

Might come in handy since Erdogan is getting a bit froggy of late.

Too bad they can only afford yogurt and olive oil warheads for the missiles.

"Release the goats of mass destruction".

slicktroutman's picture

Like they (Greece the fleeced broke country) can afford it? Yet Germany pays half, WTF??

Herdee's picture

Should have listened to President Eisenhower. John Senile McCain is the focal point of what is wrong today. World War 2 ended a long time ago and so did the Cold War.

MuffDiver69's picture

Very good. I thought President Trumps meeting was spot on. Why the hell would he act like the trained globalist monkey Obama. Makes me laugh libtards think the President not shaking Merkels hand is some kind of news...He made her look small and the puppet she is.

johnnycanuck's picture

She looked like the adult in the room, El Donaldo not so much.

robertocarlos's picture

Be a shame to ruin a perfectly good country like Germany.

Anarchyteez's picture

NATO is as useless as tits on a boar.

small axe's picture

When you don't get paid, you don't provide the service or product.

US should cut its NATO funding by an amount equivalent to the under-funding by Germany and others.

crossroaddemon's picture

Horseshit. The US forces are there to keep Germany from cozying up to Russia... there isn't any other reason. They're not defending Germany, they are an army of occupation. And Trump knows that.

post turtle saver's picture

what a load of fucking horseshit... the US has 35k troops total from all branches stationed in Germany and that's an occupation force?

man if that's all it takes then the Germans are the biggest cucks on earth...

TheLastTrump's picture



Listen you don't hear much lately about the Russian troll brigades but I guarantee you they're alive & well and pushing the whole "Russia GOOD, AmeriKA BAD" meme right here on this thread.


Been watching these fucksticks brainwashing the gullible here & elsewhere for a long time.


Russia is a nation of drunks & murderers and will be one of the armies at Armageddon that will be COMPLETELY DESTROYED along with IRAN's.


The same fucktwits that are constantly pushing the anti semitic "It's The JOOOS" meme are also often the ones pushing the Russia GOOD meme. hmmmm....Kiss my ass fuckers.

DingleBarryObummer's picture

TheLastTrump is MillionDollarBonus doing a new schtick.  It's just as not funny as the last one.

Kaeako's picture

Most people seem to mix up NATO funding and national funding. Non-US NATO members pay the majority of NATO expenses. What Trump refers to is national funding. He's angry that the American occupation forces in Germany and elsewhere are so expensive, and so he wants others to waste money as well.

orangegeek's picture

Donald The Great

Wild E Coyote's picture

Ask not what my country can do for you,

ask how much you can pay for what my country has already done. ~ DJ Trump

DingleBarryObummer's picture

Forced the world to only trade oil in joo-credits, else face a furious propaganda campaign and subsequent bombings?

R.I.P. Colonel Gaddafi

RawPawg's picture

Why are we(USA) Still paying for this "Racket"?

should have been in budget cuts that came out this week

slicktroutman's picture

Kind of like the US funding and providing weapon to ISIS?

TheLastTrump's picture



I can't WAIT to watch OBAMA get hung for THAT one.


Aiding & abetting an enemy is....????

shimmy's picture

That kooky Trump. How dare he expect people to actually follow the rules that have been set up. First with illegal immigrants and now NATO. I mean only evil people have the nerve to expect laws and rules be followed.

What a fucked up world we live in now where you get criticized and vilifed for actually saying laws and rules should be followed. Bizarro world indeed.

yogibear's picture

The US should exit out Germany, Korea and Japan.

We have huge deficits protecting these countries.

Time they start paying. Send them all bills for the past decades.

Kaeako's picture

Didn't Merkel already agree with Trump that two percent is indeed a very important number. The best number. Of course, Germany also agreed to two percent in 2006 so it might take a while, but at least they have until 2024 to reach it. Very important number, two percent.

DrDre's picture

Terrorism would be a lot less if the US had not spent all that money on screwed up military intervention in the Middle East 

post turtle saver's picture

terrorism would be a lot less if European colonialism hadn't screwed up EMEA... there, fixed it for you...

shovelhead's picture

We should tell Turkey to take the whole place back. Give those ragheads something to cry about.

The look on Netanyahu's face would be worth it.

Ignorance is bliss's picture

Oil and by extension everything else would be a lot more expensive if the U.S. didn't interfere. The petro Dollar would have collapsed under Bush Jr. these guys are A-holes but realize that they are maintaining the U.S. Petro Dollar standard with this intervention. I don't advocate the crime, but I at least understand the motive.

trader1's picture

just like the American people expect Trump to keep his commitment to draining the SWAMP!!!!



Kellyanne's husband getting a nice position in the DOJ....


God, I love me some nepotism in the morning!



DingleBarryObummer's picture

If you like your government Sachs, you can keep your government Sachs.

Obama 3rd term, Bush 5th term, Goldman sachs 9th term.

crossroaddemon's picture

As near as I can tell we are in the 37th year of the Reagan administration.