The Kagans Are Back; Wars To Follow

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Authored by Robert Parry via The Strategic Culture Foundation,

The Kagan family, America’s neoconservative aristocracy, has reemerged having recovered from the letdown over not gaining its expected influence from the election of Hillary Clinton and from its loss of official power at the start of the Trump presidency.

Former Assistant Secretary of State for European Affairs Victoria Nuland, who pushed for the Ukraine coup and helped pick the post-coup leaders. (She is the wife of neocon theorist Robert Kagan.)

Back pontificating on prominent op-ed pages, the Family Kagan now is pushing for an expanded U.S. military invasion of Syria and baiting Republicans for not joining more enthusiastically in the anti-Russian witch hunt over Moscow’s alleged help in electing Donald Trump.

In a Washington Post op-ed on March 7, Robert Kagan, a co-founder of the Project for the New American Century and a key architect of the Iraq War, jabbed at Republicans for serving as “Russia’s accomplices after the fact” by not investigating more aggressively.

Then, Frederick Kagan, director of the Critical Threats Project at the neocon American Enterprise Institute, and his wife, Kimberly Kagan, president of her own think tank, Institute for the Study of War, touted the idea of a bigger U.S. invasion of Syria in a Wall Street Journal op-ed on March 15.

Yet, as much standing as the Kagans retain in Official Washington’s world of think tanks and op-ed placements, they remain mostly outside the new Trump-era power centers looking in, although they seem to have detected a door being forced open.

Still, a year ago, their prospects looked much brighter. They could pick from a large field of neocon-oriented Republican presidential contenders or – like Robert Kagan – they could support the establishment Democratic candidate, Hillary Clinton, whose “liberal interventionism” matched closely with neoconservatism, differing only slightly in the rationalizations used for justifying wars and more wars.

There was also hope that a President Hillary Clinton would recognize how sympatico the liberal hawks and the neocons were by promoting Robert Kagan’s neocon wife, Victoria Nuland, from Assistant Secretary of State for European Affairs to Secretary of State.

Then, there would have been a powerful momentum for both increasing the U.S. military intervention in Syria and escalating the New Cold War with Russia, putting “regime change” back on the agenda for those two countries. So, early last year, the possibilities seemed endless for the Family Kagan to flex their muscles and make lots of money.

A Family Business

As I noted two years ago in an article entitled “A Family Business of Perpetual War”: “Neoconservative pundit Robert Kagan and his wife, Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland, run a remarkable family business: she has sparked a hot war in Ukraine and helped launch Cold War II with Russia and he steps in to demand that Congress jack up military spending so America can meet these new security threats.

Prominent neocon intellectual Robert Kagan. (Photo credit: Mariusz Kubik, http://www.mariuszkubik.pl)

This extraordinary husband-and-wife duo makes quite a one-two punch for the Military-Industrial Complex, an inside-outside team that creates the need for more military spending, applies political pressure to ensure higher appropriations, and watches as thankful weapons manufacturers lavish grants on like-minded hawkish Washington think tanks.

 

“Not only does the broader community of neoconservatives stand to benefit but so do other members of the Kagan clan, including Robert’s brother Frederick at the American Enterprise Institute and his wife Kimberly, who runs her own shop called the Institute for the Study of War.”

But things didn’t quite turn out as the Kagans had drawn them up. The neocon Republicans stumbled through the GOP primaries losing out to Donald Trump and then – after Hillary Clinton muscled aside Sen. Bernie Sanders to claim the Democratic nomination – she fumbled away the general election to Trump.

After his surprising victory, Trump – for all his many shortcomings – recognized that the neocons were not his friends and mostly left them out in the cold. Nuland not only lost her politically appointed job as Assistant Secretary but resigned from the Foreign Service, too.

With Trump in the White House, Official Washington’s neocon-dominated foreign policy establishment was down but far from out. The neocons were tossed a lifeline by Democrats and liberals who detested Trump so much that they were happy to pick up Nuland’s fallen banner of the New Cold War with Russia. As part of a dubious scheme to drive Trump from office, Democrats and liberals hyped evidence-free allegations that Russia had colluded with Trump’s team to rig the U.S. election.

New York Times columnist Thomas L. Friedman spoke for many of this group when he compared Russia’s alleged “meddling” to Japan’s bombing of Pearl Harbor and Al Qaeda’s 9/11 terror attacks.

On MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” show, Friedman demanded that the Russia hacking allegations be treated as a casus belli: “That was a 9/11 scale event. They attacked the core of our democracy. That was a Pearl Harbor scale event.” Both Pearl Harbor and 9/11 led to wars.

So, with many liberals blinded by their hatred of Trump, the path was open for neocons to reassert themselves.

Baiting Republicans

Robert Kagan took to the high-profile op-ed page of The Washington Post to bait key Republicans, such as Rep. Devin Nunes, chairman of the House Intelligence Committee who was pictured above the Post article and its headline, “Running interference for Russia.”

Gen. David Petraeus posing before the U.S. Capitol with Kimberly Kagan, founder and president of the Institute for the Study of War. (Photo credit: ISW’s 2011 Annual Report)

Kagan wrote: “It would have been impossible to imagine a year ago that the Republican Party’s leaders would be effectively serving as enablers of Russian interference in this country’s political system. Yet, astonishingly, that is the role the Republican Party is playing.”

Kagan then reprised Official Washington’s groupthink that accepted without skepticism the claims from President Obama’s outgoing intelligence chiefs that Russia had “hacked” Democratic emails and released them via WikiLeaks to embarrass the Clinton campaign.

Though Obama’s intelligence officials offered no verifiable evidence to support the claims – and WikiLeaks denied getting the two batches of emails from the Russians – the allegations were widely accepted across Official Washington as grounds for discrediting Trump and possibly seeking his removal from office.

Ignoring the political conflict of interest for Obama’s appointees, Kagan judged that “given the significance of this particular finding [about Russian meddling], the evidence must be compelling” and justified “a serious, wide-ranging and open investigation.”

But Kagan also must have recognized the potential for the neocons to claw their way back to power behind the smokescreen of a New Cold War with Russia.

He declared: “The most important question concerns Russia’s ability to manipulate U.S. elections. That is not a political issue. It is a national security issue. If the Russian government did interfere in the United States’ electoral processes last year, then it has the capacity to do so in every election going forward. This is a powerful and dangerous weapon, more than warships or tanks or bombers.

“Neither Russia nor any potential adversary has the power to damage the U.S. political system with weapons of war. But by creating doubts about the validity, integrity and reliability of U.S. elections, it can shake that system to its foundations.”

A Different Reality

As alarmist as Kagan’s op-ed was, the reality was far different. Even if the Russians did hack the Democratic emails and somehow slipped the information to WikiLeaks – an unsubstantiated and disputed contention – those two rounds of email disclosures were not that significant to the election’s outcome.

Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Sen. Bernie Sanders. (NBC photo)

Hillary Clinton blamed her surprise defeat on FBI Director James Comey briefly reopening the investigation into her use of a private email server while serving as Secretary of State.

Further, by all accounts, the WikiLeaks-released emails were real and revealed wrongdoing by leading Democrats, such as the Democratic National Committee’s tilting of the primaries against Sen. Bernie Sanders and in favor of Clinton. The emails of Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta disclosed the contents of Clinton’s paid speeches to Wall Street, which she was trying to hide from voters, as well as some pay-to-play features of the Clinton Foundation.

In other words, the WikiLeaks’ releases helped inform American voters about abuses to the U.S. democratic process. The emails were not “disinformation” or “fake news.” They were real news.

A similar disclosure occurred both before the election and this week when someone leaked details about Trump’s tax returns, which are protected by law. However, except for the Trump camp, almost no one thought that this illegal act of releasing a citizen’s tax returns was somehow a threat to American democracy.

The general feeling was that Americans have a right to know such details about someone seeking the White House. I agree, but doesn’t it equally follow that we had a right to know about the DNC abusing its power to grease the skids for Clinton’s nomination, about the contents of Clinton’s speeches to Wall Street bankers, and about foreign governments seeking pay-to-play influence by contributing to the Clinton Foundation?

Yet, because Obama’s political appointees in the U.S. intelligence community “assess” that Russia was the source of the WikiLeaks emails, the assault on U.S. democracy is a reason for World War III.

More Loose Talk

But Kagan was not satisfied with unsubstantiated accusations regarding Russia undermining U.S. democracy. He asserted as “fact” – although again without presenting evidence – that Russia is “interfering in the coming elections in France and Germany, and it has already interfered in Italy’s recent referendum and in numerous other elections across Europe. Russia is deploying this weapon against as many democracies as it can to sap public confidence in democratic institutions.”

U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry, flanked by Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs Victoria “Toria” Nuland, addresses Russian President Vladimir Putin in a meeting at the Kremlin in Moscow, Russia, on July 14, 2016. [State Department Photo]

There’s been a lot of handwringing in Official Washington and across the Mainstream Media about the “post-truth” era, but these supposed avatars for truth are as guilty as anyone, acting as if constantly repeating a fact-free claim is the same as proving it.

But it’s clear what Kagan and other neocons have in mind, an escalation of hostilities with Russia and a substantial increase in spending on U.S. military hardware and on Western propaganda to “counter” what is deemed “Russian propaganda.”

Kagan recognizes that he already has many key Democrats and liberals on his side. So he is taking aim at Republicans to force them to join in the full-throated Russia-bashing, writing:

“But it is the Republicans who are covering up. The party’s current leader, the president, questions the intelligence community’s findings, motives and integrity. Republican leaders in Congress have opposed the creation of any special investigating committee, either inside or outside Congress. They have insisted that inquiries be conducted by the two intelligence committees.

 

“Yet the Republican chairman of the committee in the House has indicated that he sees no great urgency to the investigation and has even questioned the seriousness and validity of the accusations. The Republican chairman of the committee in the Senate has approached the task grudgingly.

 

“The result is that the investigations seem destined to move slowly, produce little information and provide even less to the public. It is hard not to conclude that this is precisely the intent of the Republican Party’s leadership, both in the White House and Congress. …

 

“When Republicans stand in the way of thorough, open and immediate investigations, they become Russia’s accomplices after the fact.”

Lying with the Neocons

Many Democrats and liberals may find it encouraging that a leading neocon who helped pave the road to war in Iraq is now by their side in running down Republicans for not enthusiastically joining the latest Russian witch hunt. But they also might pause to ask themselves how they let their hatred of Trump get them into an alliance with the neocons.

Russian President Vladimir Putin, following his address to the UN General Assembly on Sept. 28, 2015. (UN Photo)

On Wednesday in The Wall Street Journal, Robert Kagan’s brother Frederick and his wife Kimberly dropped the other shoe, laying out the neocons’ long-held dream of a full-scale U.S. invasion of Syria, a project that was put on hold in 2004 because of U.S. military reversals in Iraq.

But the neocons have long lusted for “regime change” in Syria and were not satisfied with Obama’s arming of anti-government rebels and the limited infiltration of U.S. Special Forces into northern Syria to assist in the retaking of the Islamic State’s “capital” of Raqqa.

In the Journal op-ed, Frederick and Kimberly Kagan call for opening a new military front in southeastern Syria:

“American military forces will be necessary. But the U.S. can recruit new Sunni Arab partners by fighting alongside them in their land. The goal in the beginning must be against ISIS because it controls the last areas in Syria where the U.S. can reasonably hope to find Sunni allies not yet under the influence of al Qaeda. But the aim after evicting ISIS must be to raise a Sunni Arab army that can ultimately defeat al Qaeda and help negotiate a settlement of the war.

 

“The U.S. will have to pressure the Assad regime, Iran and Russia to end the conflict on terms that the Sunni Arabs will accept. That will be easier to do with the independence and leverage of a secure base inside Syria. … President Trump should break through the flawed logic and poor planning that he inherited from his predecessor. He can transform this struggle, but only by transforming America’s approach to it.”

A New Scheme on Syria

In other words, the neocons are back to their clever word games and their strategic maneuverings to entice the U.S. military into a “regime change” project in Syria.

The neocons thought they had almost pulled off that goal by pinning a mysterious sarin gas attack outside Damascus on Aug. 21, 2013, on the Syrian government and mousetrapping Obama into launching a major U.S. air assault on the Syrian military.

But Russian President Vladimir Putin stepped in to arrange for Syrian President Bashar al-Assad to surrender all his chemical weapons even as Assad continued to deny any role in the sarin attack.

Putin’s interference in thwarting the neocons’ dream of a Syrian “regime change” war moved Putin to the top of their enemies’ list. Soon key neocons, such as National Endowment for Democracy president Carl Gershman, were taking aim at Ukraine, which Gershman deemed “the biggest prize” and a steppingstone toward eventually ousting Putin in Moscow.

It fell to Assistant Secretary Victoria “Toria” Nuland to oversee the “regime change” in Ukraine. She was caught on an unsecured phone line in late January or early February 2014 discussing with U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt how “to glue” or “to midwife” a change in Ukraine’s elected government of President Viktor Yanukovych.

Several weeks later, neo-Nazi and ultranationalist street fighters spearheaded a violent assault on government buildings forcing Yanukovych and other officials to flee for their lives, with the U.S. government quickly hailing the coup regime as “legitimate.”

But the Ukraine putsch led to the secession of Crimea and a bloody civil war in eastern Ukraine with ethnic Russians, events that the State Department and the mainstream Western media deemed “Russian aggression” or a “Russian invasion.”

So, by the last years of the Obama administration, the stage was set for the neocons and the Family Kagan to lead the next stage of the strategy of cornering Russia and instituting a “regime change” in Syria.

All that was needed was for Hillary Clinton to be elected president. But these best-laid plans surprisingly went astray. Despite his overall unfitness for the presidency, Trump defeated Clinton, a bitter disappointment for the neocons and their liberal interventionist sidekicks.

Yet, the so-called “#Resistance” to Trump’s presidency and President Obama’s unprecedented use of his intelligence agencies to paint Trump as a Russian “Manchurian candidate” gave new hope to the neocons and their agenda.

It has taken them a few months to reorganize and regroup but they now see hope in pressuring Trump so hard regarding Russia that he will have little choice but to buy into their belligerent schemes.

As often is the case, the Family Kagan has charted the course of action – batter Republicans into joining the all-out Russia-bashing and then persuade a softened Trump to launch a full-scale invasion of Syria. In this endeavor, the Kagans have Democrats and liberals as the foot soldiers.

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blue fin's picture
blue fin (not verified) xythras Mar 22, 2017 2:19 AM

Someone is not fulfilling his promise. hint hint

I do hope though GOP are not that retarded to fall for this Ziocunt's siren song. 

Then again, is GOP we're talking about. 

Dame Ednas Possum's picture

Evil is as evil does. 

And they don't come much more evil than this lot of blood-thirsty yids. 

One of the primary reasons I believed in Trump was an expectation that he would stand-up to the MIC... but clearly my hopes were delusional. 

The US economy is dependent on the war machine. US hegemeony is dependent on the war machine. The US police-state is dependent on the war machine. 

Same as it ever was. 

 

chubbar's picture

IF there is anyone out in ZH land that has terminal cancer or something along those lines, please do humanity a favor and buy a .22 with a suppressor (or large caliber unsuppressed if you don't care) and stalk these assholes then put them out of action with some close up head shots. This is fucking ridiculous. All of humanity hanging on the actions of a few assholes like this couple.

JRobby's picture

Euthanize the entire Kagan lineage. ALL!

Erdicate it from the gene pool completely.

stizazz's picture

They're doing it all for that shitty country IsraHell.

fleur de lis's picture

If any family ever deserved elimination it's the Kagans.

Every last one of them need to be rounded up and confinded to a hospital for the criminally insane in isolation and under sedation.

Al they are good for is spreading murder and carnage on Americans and foreigners while they sit on their fat asses and count the money they scam off the rest of us on their vile wars. 

And neither they nor their vile spawn have ever fought for America.

They are the worst kind of cowards -- they set up others to fight and die while they enjoy the footage in their safe rat nests.

 

 

 

 

Gaius Frakkin' Baltar's picture

They're jews. I'd bet money their also Boleshiviks.

Snípéir_Ag_Obair's picture

nuland kagan pyatt gershman and the 'neocon' movement is Zionist and Jewish

http://mycatbirdseat.com/2013/06/the-machiavelian-threefold-game-of-the-...

and absolutely about using American blood and treasure to help Israel expand, help Jewish bankers and oligarchs, and FUCK parry for being too much of a chickenshit to not ever note the stunning over-representation of Jews amongst those endlessly advocating for moar war.

Fuck you Parry - what do you think, that the truth is hate speech?

http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=oded_yinon&printerfriend...

http://www.counterpunch.org/2006/04/25/is-the-us-waging-israel-s-wars/

The war on Russia and Putin is driven largely, and disproportionately by Jews. Jews who care only about Israel and other Jews and care not how many others die.

To refuse to say this is to decide that being called a name by disingenuous cunts is worse than the wars and deaths those cunts foment.

aurum4040's picture

Why would Nap sacrifice 18 years at Fox and possible Supreme Court appointment? A fucking disgrace this country is... Trump should call it out. .......These psychopath neocon fucks are going to get their ass handed to them if they go at Russia...Theres no way we will win. And I guarantee there, for the first time, will be a significant amount of American defectors if they try this shit. Thousands upon thousands. I want to know the military's opinion - real soldiers not politician nutjob pussys. 

Bay of Pigs's picture

I see millions of dead bodies if these fuckers get back in charge. The left just doesn't get it. These psychotic warmongers will take the US straight into war with Russia.

land_of_the_few's picture

Putin already got his 10 years to prepare to defend against her. She should read some Vonnegut to see what can happen to people that think they are OK in an underground shelter.

You can get turned into soup (broken water mains or sewers plus extreme heat) barbecued like a hog, buried up to your neck in hot dust and stones ... dehydrated and mummified like beef jerky ....

 

lil dirtball's picture

Only you have the power to do ... nothing.

Doing nothing would solve this problem in a few days. No violence. No protests. No shopping. No going to work. No buying gas. No nothing.

But, most ZH readers just want to bitch about it and continue on with their little lives like something is going change as if by magic. Or, the belief that little lying Donny Trump will fix all the problems by next Tuesday - 'cause he said so.

Every day you get up and go to work, buy things and pay taxes is another day this shit will go on.

I'm talking to you, reader. You have no reason to bitch about this shit until you do nothing about it.

Pliskin's picture

SPAM, pushing his shitty website on every post, then logging in under one of his many accounts to upvote himself.

Please ignore, when he first came here I foolishly visited his website, it's full of adware, malware and trojans.  Had to rebuild my P.C. to get rid of it all.

Just a warning to other REAL ZHers.

You've been warned!

Escapeclaws's picture

Thanks for the warning--will heed it.

Krungle's picture

Cant' that fat fuck just challenge Putin to a judo match? And then maybe send his wife to the front lines in Donbass wearing an SS uniform and we'll see how long she lasts. McCain at least some real duty before he turned into a lunatic. These two shitheels have probably neither thrown, nor, more importantly, ever taken a punch to their ugly mugs and therefore do not get a say about dragging the rest of us into their bullshit wars. No, we literally don't give two shits that your ancestors had a run-in with some Cossacks back in the day. Too bad. Get over it. 

Ms No's picture

I feel sorry for Putin.  How can one man and country stand against all of this?  Yeah there are few others but Trump better get off his ass and back the world against this obvious evil.

Vageling's picture

Meh... I wouldn't describe it as sorry. It's more the pressure they put on him. I can imagine his own people are forcing for some form of retaliation. Adding more pressure.

It's plain propaganda no matter how I look at it. Elections or an referendum didn't go as desired? Must be that somebody else manipulated better than we did! That's their mindset. Old saying were I hail from. There is no English equivalent for it but I guess you can say "There's the pot calling the kettle black". Which is close. The saying means that if the host distrusts his guest, it doesn't necessarily means the guest are dishonest, but more that the host isn't honest himself and therefor expects the guests not to be either. 

If you're constantly trying to manipulate everything and the desired outcome isn't there... Well from that mindset the only conclusion can be that somebody else did a better job of manipulating. Insert Russia. 

ebworthen's picture

Kagand-Nuland; barking up the wrong tree as neutered cats.

Watch out dumb kitties, us Bulldogs are after you!

Ms No's picture

The Kagans have a long history going back to the Bolshevik revolution.  They are demonic and you can see their evil in their weird ass eyes and generally evil faces.  What they hell is going on?  Holy shit!  

Global Hunter's picture

Kagans and Nuland don't appear to be normal human to me. I wonder if they are inbred but I'm guessing not an expert on that subject. Something is not right with that mob.

Ms No's picture

There is something really not right about a lot of things.  I know that the Rothschilds were inbreeding because the female descendants couldn't get an inheritance otherwise.  It was almost like the old man was encouraging it.  It just all TOO WEIRD.

 

 

 

RagnarRedux's picture
Exponential Growth Of Ashkenazi Jews Following A Medieval Population Bottleneck

"What this means is that, despite the lacrymose interpretations of Jewish history so common in the academic world, Jews have done very well in Europe over the last 700 years or so. Much of the Jewish population increase came in the 19th century in the Russian Empire."

http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2014/09/exponential-growth-of-ashke...

http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/science/.premium-1.614893

12 Genetic Studies On Jewish Ethnicity

http://davidduke.com/rethinking-khazar-theory/

farmerunder's picture

I have read they are descendants of Lazar Moiseyevich Kaganovich (the butcher of Ukraine), cant find any references linking them, any chance u have any?

Ms No's picture

They are the same family.  You can't prove that they are cousins or anything (althought they could definitely prove that), but they are the same family.  The -ovich addition to the name means "son of" similar to Mc or Mac, only it's a slavicization of a famous and well tracked historic Jewish bloodline.

This family (Kagan/Kohen/kahn/etc) is going to be one of the best tracked in all of Jewdom.  The reason why is they are supposed ancestors of Aaron, moses' brother.  They are named after a priest class.  As such, many were not required to serve in the Bolshevik military due to name alone, no shit.  These aren't just any Jews.  All of these names come from the same family just in Russia alone:

Kogan, Kogen, Kokhen (Kochen), Pop (Priest) Brevda, Kagedan/Kagidan (in Hebrew, this name is spelled "kaf-shin-daled-nun" and is an acronym for "Kohanei Shluchei DeShmaya Ninhu," which is Aramaic for "priests are the messengers of heaven"). Kamadan, Kazhdan, Kazdan, Kasdan, Kasdin, Kasden, Kogan, Kogon, Kozen, Kozer, Kogensohn, Kagan, Kaganovich, Kaganovsky.  This is what the family name has morphed to in Germany, assuming they haven't changed their name and gone crypto: German: Kohn, Cohn, Kogen, Korn, Kuhn, Kahn, Cahn, Kane, Konel, Cön/Coen, Katz...

"The patronymic is formed by a combination of the father's name and suffixes. The suffix -???? (-ovich) is used for son, suffix -???? (-ovna) - for daughter. For example, if the father's name was ???? (Ivan), then the patronymic will be ???????? (Ivanovich) for a son, and ???????? (Ivanovna) for a daughter....-i? -vi? -ovi? -i? -vi? -ovi? -ich, -vich, -vych, -ovich, -owicz/-ewicz: Croatia, Serbia, Montenegro, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Slovenia, Belarus, Poland, Slovakia, Ukraine, Russia, Republic of Macedonia (rare), occasionally Bulgaria. Yugoslav ex.: Petrovi?, means Petar's son. In Russia, where patronyms are used, a person may have two -(ov)ich names in a row; first the patronym, then the family name (see Shostakovich). "

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Slavic_naming_customs

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kohen

"This developed from the original Hewbrew word "kohen", meaning a priest. However not all Jews bearing this name belong to the priestly caste which descended from Aaron, the brother of Moses. In the 18th and 19th centuries many Russian members of the faith changed their name to Kogan or Cagan as examples, to avoid forced military service in the army, priests being the only males exempt from such service."

http://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/Kagan

They don't give us the details but they keep track to see that they are still related to who they are supposed to be.  They take this seriously which is why they traditionally follow the mother.  If they are big power brokers and carrying the name they are the real deal.  It looks like they are back to get revenge from the Ukraine and Russia.  Guaranteed they are not imposters.  They are tied to the Butchers of the Ukraine... Guaranteed. 

https://www.familytreedna.com/public/Cohen/default.aspx?section=yresults

https://www.familytreedna.com/public/Cohen/default.aspx?section=yresults

https://www.familytreedna.com/public/Cohen/default.aspx?section=ysnp

farmerunder's picture

Wow, great post. I did a search prior to your post and got the Cohen family tree DNA u linked, It had Lazar in there but I'm not real sure of how to read those trees. I also noticed Wikipedia included Kagan under Kaganovich, sometimes it is interesting what these searches throw up.

This family seem to have  particularly violent tendencies. I think I remember that Ashkenazi (if they are Ashkenazi) genes commonly have a mutation in a gene leading to greater incidences of schizophrenia, sure seems common in many of these old family names. Of interest, I recently learnt that the USSR broke up 5 months after Lazars death, wonder what control they had up to that point?.

Once again thanks for your reply and good links.

mrbyrite's picture

"The Kagans have a long history going back to the Bolshevik revolution"

 

Do you have a source for that?

Ms No's picture

I actually do have a good source for that and I have posted it on here before.  I may have to do some digging though.  I found a book, on this amazing site (check tags button for subjects, It's a gold mine, also check Anthony Sutton.  They are all on there.  Not everyhing on there is good but there is a lot) that showed pictures, ranks and names for Bolshies.  Kagan, Cohen, etc., were all over the place and as I explained above they are all related.   This is not a coincidence.  I am not sure which book it was right now but I know I have the link saved somewhere in my huge and poorly organized file system.  I'll keep looking for it. 

Sledge-hammer's picture
Sledge-hammer (not verified) Mar 22, 2017 2:19 AM

Regards the (((Kagans))), yes they are jews.  Treacherous, deceitful jews who have no business trying to influence our gov't and bring wickedness to our people.  The jews need to be deported to Israel.  That is the place for them.  Just like the negro, with the jew in America, we will never have peace.

BeepBeepRichie's picture

These "people" are pure evil. If i were President, they would have all been executed day motherfucking one. Let what may be follow

Global Hunter's picture

kagans Nuland Betrayus are some ugly looking hideous creatures.

Zorba's idea's picture

Who the fuck are these people?! Some of the scum sucking swamp creatures peddling "the institute for the study of war racketerring"      Put their names in the book..

 

Duc888's picture

 

 

These fucking jews are gonna be the death of us all.

yogibear's picture

Kagan's wet dream is a full out nuclear exchange.

Just like Bill Gate's to wipe out 90% of the surface population.

WillyGroper's picture

Wikileaks better make a pedo drop soon.

obviously we have a dynamicpedoduo hell bent on wholesale distruction of the 3rd rock.

 

DuneCreature's picture

I have a couple of reasons to believe Vault 8 or 9 will contain the documents and details of how the CIA-Ass Wipes Inc Gang are willfully poisoning everyone on the planet.

From there it is game on......or game over.

Live Hard, If That Doesn't Bring On Mass Insurrection Nothing Will, Die Free

~ DC v5.0

WillyGroper's picture

hope it's sumpin soon...i think it'll take 911 or pedogate to wake'm up.

i've pointed out chemtrails for years & you cannot imagine the way some highly educated people have denied/rationalized it.  one person said the pilots were practicing flying. 

did you catch GW's mango caper tying helliary?   pete & repeat, united fruit 2.0.

 

DuneCreature's picture

Yep.

I'll repost a link for anyone who hasn't caught the Chicago Caper. ........... George better watch his back there. I trust he has shadow security.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

You have heard of the French Connection no doubt.

Well, this is the Pakistani Connection. ........ It seems our favorite pizza party witch might be in the import business now. .. I guess the charity foundation scam biz has been tapped out for her lately.

This should draw some DEA interest. ........

Day 149 Part 2 = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prc3T_zoUkA

Where is the DEAd when you need them. Still in Mexico trying to cover up the CIA drug running mess there?..... George could use a little backup.

Live Hard, The Wacky Waxy O'Hairy Chicago Mango Caper, Die Free

~ DC v5.0

cherry picker's picture

I wonder how the USA allows these types to operate?  Isn't what they do against some fucking law, they have so many laws on the books I think it is time to hand cuff them and hide them for awhile in gitmo.

These are the true terrorists, not some kid with an AK47 in a toyota pickup on the other side of the world in the desert.

sinbad2's picture

The law doesn't apply to Americas monarchy.

turnball the banker's picture
turnball the banker (not verified) Mar 22, 2017 2:46 AM

We should start a gofundme pool to take care of these beautiful people

Anonymous_Beneficiary's picture

If God were real he would execute immediate justice upon the warmongering fools shown above.

I certainly didn't sign up for this shite.

loves the truth's picture

Psalms 37: 9 For evil men will be done away with,+But those hoping in Jehovah will possess the earth.+
10  Just a little while longer, and the wicked will be no more;+You will look at where they were,And they will not be there.+11  But the meek will possess the earth,+And they will find exquisite delight in the abundance of peace.

adonisdemilo's picture

If they want a war then tool them both up and send them to the front line in Syria to help ISIS keep the Russians under control.

Olympus Mons is not a Volcano's picture

 

A soldier will fight long and hard for a bit of coloured ribbon. - Napoleon Bonaparte

cherry picker's picture

I think it is about time communities band together and just say no to the Feds.  Look after your own policing, fire protection and medical.

Fence off your community from the rest of the country, put up a flag and tell the rest of the world you are not part of the warmongering neocons.

That big, sick NSA, CIA, Pentagon hell will slowly disappear without food or young people joining them

It took me awhile, but I convinced my son not to fall for those recruiting ads.  I know too many vets with PTSD, seen too much violence myself.

There is no glory in the military.  It is all about kill or be killed without questioning the reason why.  The Band of Idiots.