The Deep State's Dominant Narratives And Authority Are Crumbling

Tyler Durden's picture

Authored by Charles Hugh-Smith via OfTwoMinds blog,

This is why the Deep State is fracturing: its narratives no longer align with the evidence.

As this chart from Google Trends illustrates, interest in the Deep State has increased dramatically in 2017. The term/topic has clearly moved from the specialist realm to the mainstream. I've been writing about the Deep State, and specifically, the fractures in the Deep State, for years.

Amusingly, now that "Progressives" have prostituted themselves to the Security Agencies and the Neocons/Neoliberals, they are busy denying the Deep State exists. For example, There is No Deep State (The New Yorker).

In this risible view, there is no Deep State "conspiracy" (the media's favorite term of dismissal/ridicule), just a bunch of "good German" bureaucrats industriously doing the Empire's essential work of undermining democracies that happen not to prostrate themselves at the feet of the Empire, murdering various civilians via drone strikes, surveilling the U.S. populace, planting bugs in new iPhones, issuing fake news while denouncing anything that questions the dominant narratives as "fake news," arranging sweetheart deals with dictators and corporations, and so on.

The New Yorker is right about one thing--the Deep State is not a "conspiracy:" it is a vast machine of control that is largely impervious to the views or demands of elected representatives or the American people. The key to understanding this social-political-economic control is to grasp that control of the narratives, expertise and authority is control of everything. Allow me to illustrate how this works.

The typical politician has a busy daily schedule of speaking at the National Motherhood and Apple Pie Day celebration, listening to the "concerns" of important corporate constituents, attending a lunch campaign fundraiser, meeting with lobbyists and party committees, being briefed by senior staff, and so on.

Senior administrators share similarly crowded schedules, minus the fundraising but adding budget meetings, reviewing employee complaints and multiple meetings with senior managers and working groups.

Both senior elected officials and senior state administrators must rely on narratives, expertise and authority because they have insufficient time and experience to do original research and assessment.

Narratives create an instant context that "makes sense" of various data points and events. Narratives distill causal factors into an explanatory story with an implicit teleology--because of this and that, the future will be thus and so.

For example: because Iraq has weapons of mass destruction (WMD), the future promises the terrible likelihood (more than a possibility, given Iraqi deployment of poison gas in the Iraq-Iran War) that America or its allies will be devastated by Iraqi weapons of mass destruction. This teleology leads to the inescapable need to eliminate Iraq's weapons of mass destruction by any means necessary, and remove the political will to use them by removing Iraq's leader from power.

Politicos and senior administrators rely on expertise and authority as the basis of deciding whether something is accurate and actionable. Professional specialists are assumed to have the highest available levels of expertise, and their position in institutions that embody the highest authority give their conclusions the additional weight of being authoritative. The experts' conclusion doesn't just carry the weight of expertise, it has been reviewed by senior officials of the institution, and so it also carries the weight of institutional authority.

So when the C.I.A. briefing by its experts claims Iraq has WMD, and the briefing includes various threads of evidence that the institution declares definitive, who is a non-expert to challenge this conclusion and teleology? On what technical basis does the skeptic reject the expertise and authority of the institution?

We can now define the Deep State with some precision. The Deep State is fundamentally the public-private centralized nodes that collect, archive and curate dominant narratives and their supporting evidence, and disseminate these narratives (and their implicit teleologies) to the public via the media and to the state agencies via formal and informal inter-departmental communication channels.

By gaining control of the narratives, evidence, curation and teleology, each node concentrates power. the power to edit out whatever bits contradict the dominant narrative is the source of power, for once the contradictory evidence is buried or expunged, it ceases to exist.

For example, the contradictory evidence in the Pentagon Papers was buried by being declared Top Secret. The bureaucratic means to bury skeptical (i.e. heretical) views or evidence are many. Sending the authors to figurative Siberia is remarkably effective, as is burying the heretical claims in a veritable mountain of data that few if any will ever survey.

Curation is a critical factor in maintaining control of the narrative and thus of control; the evidence is constantly curated to best support the chosen narrative which in turn supports the desired teleology, which then sets the agenda and the end-game.

The senior apparatchiks of the old Soviet Union were masters of curation; when a Soviet leader fell from favor, he was literally excised from the picture--his image was erased from photos.

This is how narratives are adjusted to better fit the evidence. Thus the accusation that "the Russians hacked our election" has been tabled because it simply doesn't align with any plausible evidence. That narrative has been replaced with variants, such as "the Russians hacked the Democratic National Committee." Now that this claim has also been shown to be false, new variants are popping up weekly, with equally poor alignment with evidence.

The primary claim of each Deep State node is that its expertise and authority cannot be questioned. In other words, while the dominant narrative can be questioned (but only cursorily, of course), the expertise and authority of the institutional node cannot be questioned.

This is why the Deep State is fracturing: the expertise and authority of its nodes are delaminating because its narratives no longer align with the evidence. If various Security Agencies sign off on the narrative that "Russia hacked our election" (a nonsense claim from the start, given the absurd imprecision of the "hacking"--hacking into what? Voting machines? Electoral tallies?), and that narrative is evidence-free and fact-free, i.e. false, then the expertise and authority of those agencies comes into legitimate question.

Once the legitimacy of the expertise and authority is questioned, control of the narrative is imperiled. The control of the narrative is control of the teleology, the agenda and the end-game--in other words, everything. If the institution loses control of the dominant narrative, it loses its hold on power.

This is why the Deep State is in turmoil--its narratives no longer make sense, or are in direct conflict with other nodes' narratives or have been delegitimized by widening gaps between "definitive" claims and actual evidence.

There is indeed a Deep State, but its control of dominant narratives, and thus its source of control and power, is crumbling. The gap between the narratives and the evidence that supports them has widened to the point of collapse.

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LawsofPhysics's picture

What an optimistic "article".

hedgeless_horseman's picture


What is the difference between a member of the deep state and a government employee?

LawsofPhysics's picture

No shit, this article was written by a maroon.  Google is the deep state's primary information gathering tool for fuck's sake. Spooks everywhere, again...


Ignatius's picture

According to CIA expert, Douglas Valentine, "There is no 'deep state,' there's just things you don't know."

Doug explains:

LawsofPhysics's picture


"known unknowns and unknown unknowns...?"

fuck off.

Ignatius's picture

"known unknowns and unknown unknowns...?"

Your language (borrowed from Rummy), not mine.

Obviously you miss his point because you haven't looked nor investigated why he says that.

"Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance."  --  Einstein

And LoP, you are in the clouds... and fuck off yourself.


J Jason Djfmam's picture

You know.

The things we know we don't know...

And the things that we don't know we don't know.

Don'tcha know.

chunga's picture

During the fake Russia election tampering "investigation" Mike Rogers looked very uncomfortable, like he didn't fit in with all the other frauds.

I hope he's the guy that blows the whistle and tells us things we don't know but should.

BullyBearish's picture

He did have a very dark persona about his BU77PLUG was askew...

MrBoompi's picture

With every lie they have to tell, the more sullen they look and the bigger the dark bags under their eyes get.  

rlouis's picture

Valentine, in his own words, was just a pot smoking hippie who happened to have known, and was liked by the head of the CIA - I think it was Colby.  

There is enough information in the public domain about the planning for Continuity of Government to discount the "things we don't know."

My guess is that the members of the deep state are all those people that have passes to the deep underground bomb shelters.  Those are the shelters everyone else paid for, but aren't invited along when the shit happens.  How many are part of the deep state and how many of their serfs have they provided for is a point for consideration.  In a country of 320 million, have they provided for 1 or 2 million? That's a lot of people, and requires a lot of resources.  


Ignatius's picture

Putting aside the cheap shot, "...pot smoking hippie...," what I think Doug is saying is that what's called the 'deep state' is the state.  That the CIA and its operations are a reflection of the dark side of the American psyche.  There may well be - and I suspect there are - rogue elements, but the basic function is signed off on by our elected leadership, though Joe Sixpack is routinely blocked from knowing the operational details.

Arnold's picture

"We can now define the Deep State with some precision. The Deep State is fundamentally the public-private centralized nodes that collect, archive and curate dominant narratives and their supporting evidence, and disseminate these narratives (and their implicit teleologies) to the public via the media and to the state agencies via formal and informal inter-departmental communication channels."

Still pretty Vague.
Can you hear me now?
Just kidding.


rlouis's picture

I didn't intend a cheap shot at Valentine, it provides context for his relationship with the head of the CIA; those were his words.  He has some very good history on the CIA's Phoenix Program.  As I interpret his theory, based on very limited information, the Phoenix Program is ready to be implemented domestically.  David Petraeus' counter insurgency manual shows how the system operates, down to the level of local police.

Ignatius's picture

My whole point from above was Valentine's point, that the 'deep state' is just the unstated policies of the state, but they are the policies (most just don't know them, because they haven't studied them and because they're not talked about).

Logan 5's picture

"What is the difference between a member of the deep state and a government employee?"


One looks at porn all day, and the other spies on you looking at porn all day [while eating a pizza], so they can blackmail you on being a pedo.

froze25's picture

There are also those that see what is happening, don't like it and are working at their own risk to stop it. There are far more good then bad, most just want to do their job and get paid. You really need to focus on the political appointed heads of departments and the immediate underlings. Right now you have the bottom and the top working to expose the middle/upper management. All the lower level people were compartmentalized, that compartmentalization is breaking down at light speed thanks to the alternative media.

hedgeless_horseman's picture


...most just want to do their job and get paid...

About 20% of the "workforce" are employed by the government. Far too many government employees stealing far too much salary and benefits from the people.  

Here is just one example of thousands: 

Since its founding on August 12, 1961, the Federal Maritime Commission (FMC) has worked to ensure that neither the activities of liner shipping groups nor foreign government laws or regulations impose unfair costs on American exporters, or on American consumers of imported goods.


The FMC was officially established in 1961 in the early months of the Kennedy Administration, but its genesis can be traced back to the turmoil of World War I.

Because a bunch of government employees that have never traded a container of goods in their life can determine better than a free market what costs are unfair?

As Upton Sinclair wrote, "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it."

You Only Live Twice's picture

Government employees are employees of the employees of the Deep-State, politicians.

At this point, it looks like a fracturing between the private bankers in Europe and those in the US. It also looks like they are losing control as people are waking up and light is shun on the darkness that they hide in.

The major concern is that since the Deep-State works first and foremost its own self-preservation, what extent are they prepared to go to?

froze25's picture

The constant concern is they are willing to go pretty damn far to hold on to power. The good part is their leadership is old as hell and didn't do a good job at training the next gen to take over, being who they are they didn't want to transfer the power and step into a senior adviser role instead they have held on to it till death, leaving the next gen poorly prepared to take over.

Rubicon727's picture

What the article does not reveal is: *what* financial/Wall Street players OWN & OPERATE the Deep State.

WHEN the entire financial world blows up, the Deep State will be crushed. This is *who* maintains the "Deep State."

Think: Wall Street/EU financial players/Boeing, Raytheon, hedge fund managers, the rentier class, folks like George Soros/Warren Buffett/Bill Gates/Big Pharma/Insurance companies and the list goes on.

Bobbo's picture

4 or 5 extra zeros on the kickback$.

DuneCreature's picture

One knows what he (she) is and the other thinks he (she) knows what he (she) is.

If they work inside the DC beltway they are Deep State or useful idiot Deep State tools.

I try and be as little use as possible.

Government is basically pure evil.

Live Hard, We Are ALL Useful Idiots On Some Large Or Small Level, Die Free

~ DC v5.0

amadeus39's picture

Unfortunately a necessary evil. If there were no government, we'd have to invent one. Oh, we did. For small tribes no government is possible. Still something has to keep the peace within tribes. What is it and can it work for nations?. Probably not. That's why we have governments. We are such a cantakerous species. We seem to be unable to agree on so many things.



DuneCreature's picture

I'm thinking, a return to a feudal system might be the way to go. Break the entire dry portions of the planet earth up into 1000 sq. mile girds and fence every one of them. ... Small gates for trade and everyone goes home at night. No exceptions. .... Tariffs, lots of tariffs, tolls and border taxes. .. Turn your whole fenced-in section into an armed camp if you want to but everyone goes home at night. ... No exceptions. ... Trade in food, minerals, electronics, light machinery and women only. .. Everyone gets a hut. .. Even the chief just gets a hut. Only his hut has a couple of rooms and maybe indoor plumbing. ... Did I mention everyone goes home at night? .. No exceptions. .. That might not completely eliminate government but I'll bet I could hobble dot gov up pretty good with my scheme. ... Particularly if everyone went home at night, no exceptions.

Oh, Oh, I sorry, I must have been day dreaming a bit. ... What were we talking about again? .. Government and what a necessary evil it is?

I don't know about you, but I'd rather spend my evil on something more practical than government. ... A young maiden who can cook might be a better purchase with those evil gold doubloons I've been hoarding.

Live Hard, Just Kidding, I Don't Really Want To Be An Evil Slaving Warlord Just A Successful, Good Looking One With A Snug Hut, Die Free

~ Dc v5.0

steelhead23's picture

The majority of federal employees do not work in the intelligence community or the MIC.

BobEore's picture

That's a great question, because it highlights the seamless transition... from where things stood when the concept of "Deep State" was revelant - and revealing

to where things stand today - where it is used as a meme to actually cover up the end point of that process of transition. In the 1960's Fletcher Prouty coined the phrase in relation to how components of a hidden organization both within and without government fused their resources to pursue common agendas.

When JFK challenged the "narrative," to use HughesSmith's term ....of endless spending on entanglements which most benefitted military contractors, foreign powers, and secret interest groups

those very elements fused into the conspirators who arranged his demise. At that time the "Deep State" controlled and was funded by profits from weapons sales and contract rake offs, heroin sales from s e Asia, and the activities of organized crime. All of which came together on the Permindex board of directors and Bronfman right hand man/British intelligence asset Maurice Greenfield. You can see in that line up THE BEGINNINGS

of what we have reached now. It's not the amorphous and nameless creature which Peter Dale Scott paints it to be. It's a very specific and real fusing of

financial controllers - the Goldmans/JPM's/City echelon

state players - the Sraelis as controlling element, infusing their agents(like Rahm Emmanuel previously, now obvious Kurchner, Bannon Cohn & Co, and less obvious many many others....into American and likewise British, Russian, Indian etc., top level rankings,

organized crime as we know it today - Russian mafiyas, based in Israel, but interlocking in a world wide empire of crime with many other branches and associates

military men, intelligence agencies, defense contractors from various states

communications companies (google facebook, others too numerous to mention, all gatekeepers and distorters of information flow) plus the actual 'medias' via which the information is generated  - alt and lamestream both

into a colossus only unseen because it is not acknowledged - due to the 'full spectrum dominace of the above mentioned players. There is indeed, "no Deep State" 'within and without' government... only the Terror State, which replaced and rendered redundant a concept now only used by those who wish to disguise it's new and improved replacement!


Budnacho's picture

Long Rope and Rope derivatives....

Winston Churchill's picture

The resulting decapitation would be far too quick an end.

I want to see the rope dance for a while.

woody188's picture

More than you know. Remember the lamp posts that have microphones and listen to pedestrian conversations?

And this was 6 years ago, what do you think they are doing now?

Low-Withers's picture

Is that why LED Light Bulbs were so damn expensive to begin with?

G-R-U-N-T's picture

'Fractured Fairy Tales', the Deep State indeed, must be in a panic!

wisehiney's picture

Incompetent ivy leage pussies.

BandGap's picture

Can't pay too much attention to this shit anymore.

Decide for yourself - hide in the herd or avoid all possible sources of information gathering. I have chosen to continue with the wife and kids' iphones (I do not own one) and allowing the use of any and all social media.

When it gets to the point where action or reaction is required I will gladly crioss that bridge. Up to that point I only believe what I can verify.


Hannibal's picture

“The damage that psychopaths do to the global economy, and human civilization in general, is incalculable.” ? Robert D. Hare
"The covert operators that I ran with would blow up a 747 1 with 300 people to kill one person. They are total sociopaths with no conscience whatsoever." -- Former Pentagon CID Investigator Gene Wheaton

['Mafia' is the collective noun for Psychopaths (politically the Zionist) and the leaders look to be the Reptoids. The psychology of Fascism/Authoritarianism or Pathocracy 1 (social movements, societies, nations or empires that are taken over by psychopaths).  Ever wondered at the mind set needed to kill the planet and all its inhabitants (see: Genocide, Covert genocide)? Here is most of the explanation. Big Brother, his Corporations (Eg Monsanto, Eli Lilly, Nestle) & Cartels (eg: the Medical Mafia) are run by psychopaths (eg: Rockefeller and Ford).  4% of people walking the streets are psychopaths, the worst end up as serial killers (eg: Rumsfeld, Bush, Kissinger etc).  Seeing as the Elite are Satanists, you have to ask how much of their Evil actions are due to....

Stan522's picture

This is a good thing.....

I'm tired of living under a shadow government that is predominantly Liberal....

cro_maat's picture

small axe (or should I call you hatchet), you have corrrectly sussed out the salient point of the article. Russian women are hot. Combine this with the fact that they are more ruthless (and brighter) than your run of the mill liberal progressive dyke and you can see why they scream shrilly about the evil Russians.

Able Ape's picture

Once you've had a moose, you'll never go back!...

ffed's picture

The narrative the earth is a ball will fall eventually, look at google trends on flat earth GROWING BIGLY..  I was reading comments (under video about shaq flat earth statements) about flat earthers being so stupid when I realized the MAJORITY of people really are clueless and thus "believe" they live on a ball without any investigation.

Its like the moon hoax, its hard to believe we did not go to the moon until you look at the eveidence, and most people simply will not look at the evidence, they just believe.

ArtificalDuality's picture

Don't let yourselves be fooled people. Flat Earth is a Hollywood-grade PSY-OP to keep you from putting energy in things that matter! Simply take a look here: It provides instructions how you can prove them wrong and prove the earth to be just a globe as any other spherical bodies with just:

* 5 People, geographically selected (get your international buddies together!)
* Each  of them a smart-phone or other type of camera.

Have fun busting their multi-million dollars fudging campaigns with practically no effort!

ffed's picture

How come NO ONE EVER answers why WATER IS FLAT????  Fuck off until you answer me that ONE SINGLE QUESTION.

“There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance - that principle is contempt prior to investigation”

cro_maat's picture

You must have never been out on the open ocean.

I navigated a helicopter carrier in the Navy. My height of eye off the water when standing on the bridge was 75 feet. I could see the horizon at 6.56 miles. If I used binoculars, I could see more detail of the waves but it was still 6.56 miles of ocean and then the rest was hidden by the horizon. When a ship appeared on the horizon, you. would see the smokestacks first, then the conning bridge then the hull. It appeared as though the ship rose out of the water in the distance. This is a direct result of the curvature of the Earth.

Mercator charts are what navigators use day to day. However, if you are crossing large distances (across an ocean for instance) then you first plot you course on a Gnomonic chart which is a "Great Circle" chart. This course is divided into "Way Points" which are then plotted on a Mercator chart for easy plotting while underway. This is all done because the shortest distance between 2 points on the earth is a Great Circle.